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I just wrote them a long email.
My girlfriend and I were quite literally about to sign up for regular orders mostly based on their advertised support of 2A.
Not now. Fuck around, and find out.
Someone on here told me they sold instant coffee and I was going to get a box but not so sure ATM. It was pretty expensive $24 for 30 but I don't mind spending more to support companies that stand up for our rights.
Meh, I just say good riddance I think it will go the way of wounded warrior? Where they were more using vets and such in a gimmick way vs with real values. It allows for truly patriotic Americans to fill the void and not just those that shift their shape when it's more convenient to avoid scrutiny.
I think these guys have a legit thing. They just went public didn't they? So much corporate shit when that happens. Now they fucked their 2A brand by dissing the poster child for 2A.
My God how do you miss that?
Just dumb and seems more indicative of marketing vs actually having sincerely held beliefs. Their target market wasnt upset about it... maybe there are some concerns if they are trying to expand but otherwise it makes no sense to say anything.
I watched the CEO's statement on twitter. Not very convincing.
They might have been caught off guard with The Blaze promo code, but instead of embracing it they disavowed instead. Especially since Kyle's case is a clear cut self defense and 2A issue. All you have to do is watch the video to see he is innocent.
Also, did the douche canoe CEO really need the rifle on the table next to him? What a fucking poser.
LOL, the best part is the people they are trying to pander to dont believe them LOL!!!!! It really is great they destroy all good will and support they would have gotten, alienated tons of customers and would be customers, and the group who they tried to get good will from, hate you more than they already did!!!! its the fail trifecta
You are correct. They are free to do whatever they want. I'm free to purchase my coffee elsewhere. Their coffee is good, but it ain't good enough to ignore the hypocrisy.
oh you gotta read the responses from the SJW's on there twitter, its gold. They dont believe them, and are screaming at them about how much more they hate them. They have ruined any customer base anywhere LOL!!
Oh, I can definitely tell good coffee from bad coffee.
But to me, the only real coffee is "Long Island Gas Station Coffee" that we'd get from the head of Landscaping every morning at around 10, as part of our routine at work.
So maybe Bad Coffee is the real good coffee? Whatever, I drink Tea myself.
Im not a coffee fag, just drink pwo and pop caffeine pills like tic tacs. With that being said, one can definitely taste the difference between black coffees. Lol at Folgers , cmon man.
Yeah... He still has a good rep within the SOF community. And he did do some real shit. Maybe give this a minute to see what's up instead of being a bunch of fag leftists about this?
This community stands, the BRC did not hold the line.
Will they reverse their stance? Unlikely - but maybe if it’s painful enough on their checkbooks, they will... but those precious never been in, never served on the line, career armchair warriors want to use the “SF” brand as some kind of special way out of having to support people who support you.
Kyle wasn’t a soldier, he’s who soldiers are hired to defend.
A citizen of the United States who did the right thing and was labeled a criminal.
How much did their company donate to the “free Kyle” fund?
Where the fuck were they during Kenosha? Training? Drinkin coffee? Hiding behind their vote?
If Hillary Clinton wore a black rifle shirt while killing Gadafi, I bet they’d be all about it
Definitely sad to see it go this way. They should've sent him a bunch of free stuff for the publicity. Now, with the shirt, libfags who never would've bought it surely won't, and their statement as one guy said didn't hold the line. Stupid.
Their only redemption would to make one of their products specifically dedicated to the legal defense fund(s) of wrongfully accused patriots... even a tiny percentage would be fine.
The left quite literally pays the bail of the criminal terrorist gang known as Antifa who destroy public property and murder conservatives in the streets, while politicians and media elite broadcast in daylight about their open door policy to violence against “right wingers.”
To bow to a politically correct standpoint out of fear of a negative association, leaves a hole in the carrier deck of hearts and minds who truly loved that brand and thought they knew what they stood for.
The left might be rejoicing over their victory by potentially destroying a vet owned biz, but we mourn the PR stunt of a patriotic business we once trusted with the regularity of our daily bowel movements.
He's their VP, but I agree, it appears they took a neutral stance when the vast majority of their customers "like me" would have been willing to run and gun with a team to rescue Kyle if it came to it.
EDIT: Now that I have seen his donations to the left I am officially fucking done with them
Should not have a made wishy-washy statement. Or if they do, it should have been along the lines of "we are not going to profit in any way off of exigent circumstances that outside our control."
That ofc would have been false, since cherry pits are harvested by low-wage workers, so I would gone with "BRV doesn't make statements," and be done w it.
Turns out, they have a general opinion on 2A but aren't actual supporters of it.
We have been assured by Black Rifle Coffee that our longstanding advertising partnership continues unchanged. We love the coffee and always appreciate their support.
I get what you are saying, ChickNorris, about real deal dudes being quiet professionals & such, but it seems there are a LOT of retired SOF dudes capitalizing on their skills, opening schools, becoming YouTube stars for various reasons, becoming very hghly demanded public speakers, etc.
I've read horror stories of so many vets having a nightmare of a time finding their footing in the civilian world after retirement, so I'm beyond happy that the dudes I mentioned above - and so many more - seem to be doing damn good for themselves.
Again; I get what you are saying, but they're not puffing their chests, violating OPSEC, talking about their secret missions & such; nothing of the sort.
I can't see how anyone would begrudge any vet - but especially these Tier 1 guys - success.
Rob O'Neil had a big story to tell. I've never heard of the other guys. And if they can make a supplemental income doing YT videos then good for them.
Personally, I think a lot of the SOF dudes that are getting out now and doing the YT star thing are young. The older guys, the ones that went through the Q course before standards were relaxed, the ones that go way back...did guerrilla warfare before OEF and OIF, the ones that lost buddys or watched them get blown to smithereens aren't making funny youtube videos. They are hanging out with their brothers that have seen what they saw. That's where they talk about their experiences.
I'm keeping my thoughts on Rob O'Neill to myself. I don't begrudge any vet, even Matt Best and his crew. I'm simply saying I lived with an SF guy for close to 10 years. I know a lot of them. None of them are on youtube now or even have a large internet presence. They don't want it.
Also, Operators are not struggling to find jobs. They have options. One guy I dated after SF hubby and I divorced was in a black ops unit. He retired and is now a Director at a company out in Montana that trains military and police dogs.
The operators, if they stayed in long enough to retire, are doing well for themselves. Except the ones with PTSD, they struggle.
Sure there are some good, conservative jews out there (Dennis Prager) but even from him, he's pro-israel above almost anything else.
It's like colored SJW's who are all about their race; their entire existence and identity is wrapped up in their skin color; pretty much all jews seem to be like this.
Cough ben shapiro cough
Sorry if I'm offending any jew-pedes, but you gotta admit it's true.....
They hold all the power. They control everything. They aren’t Democrat or Republican. They are Zionists. They definitely take care of their own. They are behind some of the biggest lies in human history.
Maybe other Christians want to support other Christians. I literally only bought a mug and a shirt from them in september because I thought they were a right wing company. No it's just a jew working the "donate money to our vets" angle and "generic white supremacist disclaimer here". Whatever angle to get more money. No integrity. Taking us for suckers.
I signed up for regular orders a while ago. That's getting cancelled immediately.
SPEZ: Cancelled. So long, BRCC! Could've made a fortune just like GOYA, but you decided to be cucks instead. Get woke, go broke.
Spez #2: The cancellation reason I gave them: "According to your press release, you "advocate for individual liberty and personal responsibility," but you "do not support legal advocacy efforts." In other words, you like to talk about individual liberty and use it to sell your products, but when push comes to shove you do not support defending the 2A in court. Good bye!"
The most frustrating part is they won't give you a legit response. We are telling them they are losing business over this, and they don't care. I've sent multiple emails and I've received multiple responses. All of their responses are the exact same comment. The same bullshit about how "Black Rifle Coffee Company does not sponsor legal advocacy efforts and does not have a relationship with Kyle Rittenhouse."
This is such a shame. BRCC was a sponsor of many of my favorites shows. Elijah, Crowder, Donut and several more. I supported their work. I supported their content and purchased items from their store solely because of their extra efforts. Fuck them. I unsubscribed from their coffee and their content. They can bend the knee to the cucks but can't acknowledge us.
"It’s why we support active duty service members and veterans, prioritize veteran hiring, and advocate for individual liberty and personal responsibility.
We do not support legal advocacy efforts."
In other words, they like to talk about individual liberty, but they will do nothing to actually support it. They do not support defending the 2a in court.
Bad move for a company branded around the rifle, not to support it's legal right to be owned by anyone outside of active military.
But let's be serious trump, for all good he as done, is pretty weak on gun rights hence bumpstock ban(which was pushed for by the nra) and fix nics was passed under this admin. Oh and his atf is pulling some fuckery with pistol braces right now.
Plus he never came though with the hearing protection act like he promised.
I agree, however they could have been like every other corporation and taken the SJW route and condemned him. Essentially alienating 99% of their consumer base. Either way, I don’t hold their neutrality against them. I do, however hold their overpriced and inferior products against them.
No. They gain money by pushing far left propaganda. Like Biden doesn’t need our votes, these companies don’t need our money. Their far left handlers line their pockets with gold and in exchange cattle prod them to do their bidding. It’s why loser CNN doesn’t need our views. They just need that Soros money.
These companies we appreciate are not unlike the first album of an up and coming band we like. Then they get the attention of the powers that be, and sell out with progressively souless music.
When you can print the money (which is what loans are), you can buy anything - market share, media.
What's happening to us is the same thing that happened to natives throughout the world in the 17-19th centuries. We printed beads and diluted the hell out of their bead currencies and bought a lot of their land that way.
They're not "bowing to the radical far left commie scum".
The BRC guys are military veterans. Trained professionals don't look kindly on reckless amateurs (especially children) picking up loaded guns and playing GI Joe in the street, because trained professionals know how dangerously stupid this is without proper training. When you get a grip on just how much training it takes to even have a chance at being able to handle yourself in these kinds of scenarios, the thought of some kid with zero training just picking up an AR and wading into a riot is extremely cringe inducing. No trained soldier would ever get behind that.
Every professional gunfighter I know shakes their head at these larpy Call of Duty™ cosplayers. So I don't see why the black rifle guys would be any different.
Something that a lot of civies don't get is just how little actually gets done in the military. I've gotten to do more shooting and exercised myself into better shape after getting out than I ever did while I was in. They don't really understand how much of the military is bullshit training, safety/sensitivity classes, standing around for pointless musters, and cleaning the same spots over and over again. The military is actually quite inefficient with how they handle the time of their service members.
Sorry kid, but just picking up a gun doesn't make you a gunfighter. So don't be surprised when the real gunfighters (like the BRC guys) just shake their heads at you. They don't respect amateurs larping as gunfighters. Why would they? Why would real gunfighters respect larpy amateurs pretending to be gufnighters?
I'm not the one dressing up in cool tactical gear and posing in the mirror with guns, fantasizing about being a gunfighter. I don't need to. I'm what you fantasize about being when you do that.
No, it doesn't. But you're less likely to get hit by that bullet if you actually know what you're doing, rather than being a sad wannabe playing make-believe GI Joe in the street.
That “sad wannabe playing make-believe GI Joe” has done more for this country than you, you fake ass “Patriot”. Fuck your oath, right? Gent bent, traitor.
Let’s go the other way then. BRC is a bunch of dudes that went on the government dole to FOLLOW ORDERS in proxy wars that weren’t to our benefit or direct defense.
You can shit on them for being veterans all you like, the fact remains: They're real gunfighters. Trained professionals. Rittenhouse meanwhile was an amateur/larper.
Trained pros do not respect amateur/larpers. And for good reason. To anyone who's actually qualified to understand this subject matter, Rittenhouse picking up an AR and wading into riot is about as sensible as a four year old getting behind the wheel of a car.
I get it, everyone wants to think they're the real thing when they dress up in cool gear and pose in front of the mirror with their gun, but that's not real. That's make believe. Don't expect the real, trained professionals to see you the way you see yourself when you're posing in the mirror with your tactical cosplay gear and guns. A little self awareness, please. Of course those BRC guys are shaking their heads.
So if the government decides to actually do a gun grab, who do you think will be the ones to stand up. You are an idiot. You cant rely on the military to do whats right. There was a DAMN GOOD REASON the USA mainland was NOT invaded in WWII. Quote from Japanese admiral Yamamoto, "To invade the Unites States would prove most difficult because behind every blade of grass is an American with a rifle". End quote.
If that's how they feel, then it's pretty hypocritical to build a brand around "reckless amateurs" owning black rifles, that trades off glamorizing "operator" culture to civilians.
Sure, Kyle was stupid. But you don't see many of these "muh professionalism" naysayers out running small unit tactics training to bring civilian skills up to par. You wanna call names like a big man or be part of the solution?
The answer to shitty civilian gun culture is more training – funnily enough, well-trained, well-armed civilians is the last thing they want.
As it is, seems like the options you approve would be: 1) give up careers, families, etc., to fight the forever war for a globalist ruling class that hates us 2) Be a cop enforcing stupid laws 3) Simply bend over for the globalists and their JBTs.
Not to mention that many of the "muh professionals" don't get much real tactical training in any case – sure, SOF units and high-level SWAT teams – but grunts and beat cops aren't even that trained in any case.
But you don't see many of these "muh professionalism" naysayers out running small unit tactics training to bring civilian skills up to par.
That's because they're trained soldiers. They know you cannot bring a person's skills "up to par" by running weekend courses. It doesn't work like that. That's why soldiers have to go through months and months of intensive, punishing, exhaustive training to get to a minimum level of competence. Anything less than that is larping.
The answer to shitty civilian gun culture is more training – funnily enough, well-trained, well-armed civilians is the last thing they want.
That's because there's no such thing as a "well-trained" civilian, for the reasons I outlined above (veterans notwithstanding). There are only larpers.
The 2A applies to the people - citizens of the USA - because a militia is formed by the people. The right to bear arms does not apply only to a standing army of soldiers trained to the satisfaction of Ham Sandwich. It is the right OF THE PEOPLE.
If you try to open your soy face up any wider for SF dick you'll dislocate your jaw. I know SWAT guys who take their shit seriously--and there are about twelve of them who actually know more than the "civilians" I shoot with, in a city of millions.
You describe Kyle as "wading" into the protest yet that's such a huge gaping anus of a misrepresentation of what happened that you've well and truly fucked your credibility.
And to see you hamming up the "2A IS ABOUT A REGULATED MILITIA" language below -- the same deliberate misunderstanding of colloquial language contemporary with the writing of the Bill or Rights that I've heard from gun control cocksuckers for twenty years, well and truly loses you what little dignity you had left: lacking all credibility, your waning dignity was the only thing you had left to lose.
They can't control who wears a shirt for whatever reason.
All they had to say is we didn't give him that shirt and be done.
Instead, they went ahead and said "we don't support legal advocacy" which gun world means... FUCK YOU we got ours and we don't actually care about gun owners.
Bad PR move, but the reason they did it is they don't just sell coffee bags to conservatives. They distribute to shops, they have cans on shelves and distribution deals.
It's all about money - of course they would have been best to say NOTHING.
TBH that sounds a bit like the virtue signaling idiocy that destroyed comics "I was going to buy your comic, but it's full of racist bigoted homophobes so I'll save my money now. Thanks Marvel/DC/other"
it's not so much about right or wrong but you can't let the left boycott companies while corporations shill for them and do nothing, you have to fight back
Yeah and anyone that was into comics has watched as the comics industry has been on a sharp decline for years. It's so bad that Marvel and DC are both talking about not even making comics anymore. They'll then try to use the corona virus an excuse, but those of us in the know know that it's been their pushing of work politics for nearly the past decade that has driven away their customers.
When you take a hero like Captain America and turn him into a Nazi, then take his archenemy the Red Skull and have him recite conservative talking points to villainize them, you're going to lose your customers. It's an easy bet to guess that I haven't bought a single Captain America comic since then and that they didn't bring in any new customers to replace me.
At first I lamented the comic industry's collapse, but now I welcome it. Let them burn in the fire they created.
I mean, if you haven't spent money the FYI is appreciated... but you really don't have any skin in this game tbh. You're doing the same virtue signaling nonsense that we have called out the other side for doing for years now.
There's a big difference between virtue signaling or trying to get something canceled for woke points and boycotting a company whose values are antithetical to your own. The former is an attempt to slander and destroy, whereas the latter is just a refusal to provide support.
Forgive me if I don't want my money to end up in the hands of antifa + assorted groups and the dems pockets when these same companies cuck out completely and donate to them like chickfila did.
The difference with comics was non-comic fans were surging in to complain about z and demanding it got changed, then they pandered, they're doing the same thing with warhammer 40k, most of these fanbases don't give a damn about being woke as seen by gamergate.
I don't go to leftist knitting clubs and try to torpedo their hobbies by implementing my politics into them, I just ignore them. I'm well within my rights not to give money to a company I used to support that turned its back on me, I'm not ruining it for anyone else in that instance.
In this case BRC claims to support 2A and it turns out they don't really, when it comes down to it.
If you can't see the difference between boycotting (which I'm totally fine with the left doing, it's a free market) and the left's censorship/deplatforming/harassment campaigns you're being willfully obtuse.
Strongly disagree. Black Rifle was unique in that it advertised to conservatives, and purchasing it as a product was something for conservatives to do to choose to purchase from a brand that specifically reflected their values. It was the Raid: Shadow Legends of conservative media. Nobody was earnestly buying from this brand because they thought it was good coffee alone.
Well boy oh boy is this a great way to lose money. Leftists would look at the name of the coffee on the bag and want to figure out a way to ban the scary name due to it mentioning a rifle. I'm sure they understand who their target market was - they are just fucking retarded. KEK!
That's the thing. I understand the whole argument of "if they said nothing they also appeal to liberals" without realizing liberals weren't buying their coffee to begin with. Liberals hated them and probably still hate them. The better business strategy is to pander to the people who are already supporting you and keeping you afloat and double down on them. It's the same thing with NASCAR when they did the BLM shit, they don't realize that blue collar, conservative, southern White Christians are the ones who made NASCAR a household name, they don't NEED any liberals watching and quite frankly NASCAR isn't for liberals anyway. It's just like with the recent election, Trump won last time by only winning the White vote, and this time he not only got the White vote but also got a significant amount of the black and Hispanic vote and they STILL want us to believe Biden won.
Correct. You can stop there. Nobody actually complaining would represent a significant market share. Normies who don't care about politics wouldn't even know about it and probably don't even know who the kid is and wouldn't understand the complaints. Nobody reasonable thinks that someone wearing a company's shirt is a reverse endorsement of that person by the company.
I have like five posts defending BRC, but then I read that they didn't just disavow the photograph, they pulled their sponsorship from the person who posted it. That's a lot of effort to distance themselves from a hero. I'll match their effort by removing my subscription. Fair enough.
They could have done neither too, like it’s coffee and it’s not like employees there are forced to believe what the company believes. Just really dumb PR.
I just looked at that stockingmillcoffee.com everyone is mentioning and they look patriotic and Christian. I hope their coffee is good. We're going to try it.
and every other companies is now walking about w/ BLM or hammer and sickles in their social media profiles so, what's wrong with supported a cause then? right?
as someone said, if they made one of their overdone video commercials of breaking him out of jail, it would have been a huge hit
If I were them, I would have funded his bail and flooded him with BRC material to wear. Kyle literally embodies Why the second amendment is vital. The police weren't going to come and rescue him. He was alone on a street pursued for blocks by people intent on killing him for extinguishing fires that they had set.
Haha yep, i dont usually buy expensive Coffee, i like my cheap $12 jumbo bag from bjs. But was about to buy some christmas gifts from them... Whoops glad i didnt click submit
Okay, so just my two cents, take this for what you will.
brc, might be vet owned and operated. Might be ran by good people, I don't know - i never bothered with he hype and jumped on their bandwagon. It has become clear to me, now more than ever, these guys were just 2A LARPers and used it to push their brand.
I don't support Kyle Rittenhouse for killing people, I support Kyle Rittenhouse for putting himself in a hostile situation and protecting himself by any means necessary, when other "patriots" wouldn't. That boy is a patriot through and through - these guys just sell coffee... Fuck them.
Yeah, coffee sellers wussing out won’t keep me up at night, but I’m not giving my $$$ to people that won’t back Kyle.
There’s IronClad coffee roasters in RVA that seem based - they dig all the Babylon Bee memes and I’ve seen them make some subtle based messages - also family owned. Might need to reach out.
I mean, its just my opinion, but BRC's whole marketing scheme was appealing to gun enthusiasts and used their veteran status as clout, along side some beautiful girls holding up guns and shit. They're weren't "asking" for support, they were marketing for it and with retweets from JR and active promotion here on T_D, they made enough money to not give a fuck and shill.
I'm sure BRC has their reasons to shill - but to me personally, as a veteran myself, this move they pulled was extremely unpatriotic -- and I would think they would know the difference, but I guess not.
As far as coffee goes, I support what's local as long as they stay apolitical. I'll support anything as long as they stay apolitical. BRC, in my opinion, used politics to sell the brand, just like Nike ads appeal to BLM and the NBA appeals to China. Lets be realistic, BRC just so happen to gain notoriety during a time of gun grabs and bans - which made the blow up, and now they are just proving they have no idea what 2A really means. No fucking idea. They meme'd themselves.
Yeah, coffee sellers wussing out won’t keep me up at night, but I’m not giving my $$$ to people that won’t back Kyle. There’s IronClad coffee roasters in RVA that seem based - they dig all the Babylon Bee memes and I’ve seen them make some subtle based messages - also family owned. Might need to reach out.
I understand if they don't support Kyle. I totally understand that. He's a controversial figure. But making a statement that favors the left is a slap in the face. So, fuck Black Rifle Coffee. If they had said nothing, I'd be okay with buying their coffee.
yep. i'm sick of this appeasement angle that's been going on for far too long.
it's our fault. we've tolerated it from our representatives. we tried to be civil.
Upvote for correct usage of Blue Falcon. I'm going to give Hunter's Blend coffee a try myself, now that BRC snapped into the fetal position as soon as they faced a little bit of woke pressure.
I almost switched because of Crowder a while ago but I didn't and I've never been more proud to drink Infowars coffee.
Our custom roasted Immune Support Blend whole bean coffee is made from the finest, certified-organic, shade-grown arabica beans. This coffee is then infused with a blend of organic mushroom extracts formulated to boost immune function for a healthy cup gourmet joe! This proprietary process is a technological breakthrough that allows us to infuse these organic extracts directly into the whole beans without altering the flavor. The final result is a gourmet, organic coffee with no mushroom taste that supports your immune system with every sip. Technology meets tradition with this special blend.
Arabica are about as bog standard as you can get with a medium/dark roast. Without the shrooms it's just coffee. "Certified-organic, shade grown" is all marketing.
I wasn’t sure what to expect, but the beans are fresh and I like the smell/taste. I use a French press and normally mix it with some dark chocolate oat milk but it’s pretty good black as well. I’m not exactly a coffee snob but it wasn’t too expensive and I like supporting Alex Jones because even if I don’t agree with him 100% all the time, he’s been punished too much by tech monopoly censorship. Fuck censorship and fuck riggers.
I'm sure Crowder will avoid talking about it so he can keep shilling them. He's always been off and let slip with some things. Like back in the summer when he said if Trump didn't take a stronger stance on the riots he wouldn't vote for him. He never did clarify if he changed his mind about that, and now, even though he covers the election fraud, he still also goes on about how we shouldn't panic and it wouldn't be the end of the world if biden got into office. Like bitch, did you miss the part about them wanting to round up Trump supporters? You're on at that list and I imagine higher up than most. He needs to grow some fucking balls for once, but alas, he is ultimately a Canadian.
Imagine my shock. Superficial "conservatives" grifting on gun-bros with cringe-tier marketing. Sorry Crowder, I bought your mugs and you suffered for your convictions but BRCCucks ain't our friends.
Just like that one eye patch politician that tries to make himself look like Solid Snake/Big Boss and a grizzled conservative war veteran, but then is staunchly in favor of further gun restrictions. His name escapes me at the moment, but I'm sure somebody here knows who I'm talking about.
They just straight Hindenburged their brand. "Black Rifle Coffee...Its just a picture for our targeted demographic that we do not even hold silent neutrality for!"
I know I'm going to get a hate wave here and called a "shill" but here it goes.
Why would you buy something just because it "looked like" they supported K.R?
Why not because with every purchase they donate to support our Veterans, first responders, and active military? Why not because they openly support police and openly donate to them? Why not because they actually have good coffee?
You clearly had no intention of buying because they support good causes that do good in the world, so rescinding a decision you weren't going to make in the first place means nothing.
Someone wearing a shirt with a logo on it (that a company sells to the public on their site) doesn't mean that person is supported by the company and to assume so is stupid.
The Blaze made the connection between KR and BRC (without their permission) that wasn't there and when BRC had "the nerve" to say "We aren't affiliated with this person", everyone lost their minds.
Was it a bad move to pull sponsorship? Yes. It is likely a legal/ contract issue and will probably be worked out so we need to do what we always say we do and wait for more information.
Stop with the knee-jerk reactions. Leave that to the left.
Nah, fuck Black Rifle Coffee. There are other companies, and other ways to support vets. I don't have to support vets through branded coffee purchases. I'll get some cheap coffee, and the money I saved can go to vets some other way.
And I will continue to vote with my dollars. So, the left is doing it, too? That means we can't either? So, be a zombie that just consumes anything? Nah. Fuck that. Worked too hard for my money. Spend your money on the right companies. Let these lefty companies drown, and die off, if they wanna be assholes, and cowards.
Exactly the point I was making above and automatically get called a "liberal" and "simp". Too many people talk such a big game when it's not their company/livelihood being given a certain image that they did not ask for. Sad.
Worst PR move of the century.
They could have had a fake video busting Kyle out of prison and they would be ROLLING in cash right now.
Instead, WEAK cucking
I just wrote them a long email. My girlfriend and I were quite literally about to sign up for regular orders mostly based on their advertised support of 2A. Not now. Fuck around, and find out.
I too emailed them to let them know I was disappointed in their stance and would express that with my wallet.
My parents and I were just about to put in a big order, CANCELLED. Fuck you commies.
Is everyone boycotting Fox News advertisers? Why not???
Someone on here told me they sold instant coffee and I was going to get a box but not so sure ATM. It was pretty expensive $24 for 30 but I don't mind spending more to support companies that stand up for our rights.
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Meh, I just say good riddance I think it will go the way of wounded warrior? Where they were more using vets and such in a gimmick way vs with real values. It allows for truly patriotic Americans to fill the void and not just those that shift their shape when it's more convenient to avoid scrutiny.
I think these guys have a legit thing. They just went public didn't they? So much corporate shit when that happens. Now they fucked their 2A brand by dissing the poster child for 2A. My God how do you miss that?
Just dumb and seems more indicative of marketing vs actually having sincerely held beliefs. Their target market wasnt upset about it... maybe there are some concerns if they are trying to expand but otherwise it makes no sense to say anything.
I watched the CEO's statement on twitter. Not very convincing.
They might have been caught off guard with The Blaze promo code, but instead of embracing it they disavowed instead. Especially since Kyle's case is a clear cut self defense and 2A issue. All you have to do is watch the video to see he is innocent.
Also, did the douche canoe CEO really need the rifle on the table next to him? What a fucking poser.
yeah " we cannot ethically make money from a tragedy".
Uhm. wat?
You believe in 2a but not an example of self defense?
At least they deleted their horrible tweet that was cucking out to the commies. This tweet has been deleted, which is what I wanted to see. https://twitter.com/blckriflecoffee/status/1330258798242648078
LOL, the best part is the people they are trying to pander to dont believe them LOL!!!!! It really is great they destroy all good will and support they would have gotten, alienated tons of customers and would be customers, and the group who they tried to get good will from, hate you more than they already did!!!! its the fail trifecta
I was thinking the same thing huge fucking poser.
Well it IS their brand.
You are correct. They are free to do whatever they want. I'm free to purchase my coffee elsewhere. Their coffee is good, but it ain't good enough to ignore the hypocrisy.
Parler*
I did too. The should change their name to LARP Airsoft Coffee Co.
Lol.
I emailed them too. I do drink their coffee. I won’t unless they support Kyle
Pls let us know how they respond
I mentioned that in my email.
Like you lead me to believe a leftist is itching to buy a bag of coffee that has a ak-47 on it?? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
oh you gotta read the responses from the SJW's on there twitter, its gold. They dont believe them, and are screaming at them about how much more they hate them. They have ruined any customer base anywhere LOL!!
Probably have a bunch of liberal investors who bitched.
Owners name is Matt Best. Can let him know on his YouTube channel as well.
Thanks for the link. This looks great! Can’t wait to try.
So, enough to make me sit up straight? (Most coffee is never strong enough for me).
I drink death wish. It's the strongest available and it still isn't strong enough. Tastes good though. Let me know if you find something stronger.
Finally! Truth in advertising.
Wig splitter is the hi caffeine.
I dont drink coffee at all, but this company looks awesome. Hope they make good coffee.
Wow so this would be a great alternative. I love the web site, theme and art style. Is the coffee good?
Oh, I can definitely tell good coffee from bad coffee.
But to me, the only real coffee is "Long Island Gas Station Coffee" that we'd get from the head of Landscaping every morning at around 10, as part of our routine at work.
So maybe Bad Coffee is the real good coffee? Whatever, I drink Tea myself.
Im not a coffee fag, just drink pwo and pop caffeine pills like tic tacs. With that being said, one can definitely taste the difference between black coffees. Lol at Folgers , cmon man.
Based and true
Obvious troll is obvious
Thank you for that, had not heard of them before. Will purchase from them instead.
Those dudes made a little bit of money and lost their shit is what it sounds like to me. Reality check incoming.
That first video is awesome.
Yeah... He still has a good rep within the SOF community. And he did do some real shit. Maybe give this a minute to see what's up instead of being a bunch of fag leftists about this?
This community stands, the BRC did not hold the line.
Will they reverse their stance? Unlikely - but maybe if it’s painful enough on their checkbooks, they will... but those precious never been in, never served on the line, career armchair warriors want to use the “SF” brand as some kind of special way out of having to support people who support you.
Kyle wasn’t a soldier, he’s who soldiers are hired to defend.
A citizen of the United States who did the right thing and was labeled a criminal.
How much did their company donate to the “free Kyle” fund?
Where the fuck were they during Kenosha? Training? Drinkin coffee? Hiding behind their vote?
If Hillary Clinton wore a black rifle shirt while killing Gadafi, I bet they’d be all about it
Definitely sad to see it go this way. They should've sent him a bunch of free stuff for the publicity. Now, with the shirt, libfags who never would've bought it surely won't, and their statement as one guy said didn't hold the line. Stupid.
Their only redemption would to make one of their products specifically dedicated to the legal defense fund(s) of wrongfully accused patriots... even a tiny percentage would be fine.
The left quite literally pays the bail of the criminal terrorist gang known as Antifa who destroy public property and murder conservatives in the streets, while politicians and media elite broadcast in daylight about their open door policy to violence against “right wingers.”
To bow to a politically correct standpoint out of fear of a negative association, leaves a hole in the carrier deck of hearts and minds who truly loved that brand and thought they knew what they stood for.
The left might be rejoicing over their victory by potentially destroying a vet owned biz, but we mourn the PR stunt of a patriotic business we once trusted with the regularity of our daily bowel movements.
https://thepostmillennial.com/black-rifle-coffee-disavows-kyle-rittenhouse
The statement reads:
"We do not support legal advocacy efforts. We do not sponsor nor do we have a relationship with the 17-year-old facing charges in Kenosha, WI.
We believe in the integrity of the legal justice system, and support law enforcement officials."
They didn't call him a vigilante or anything. Pressure them but don't be leftwing homos about it.
Also, Mat Best isn't their CEO or anything. Why the hate on him? As for Evan Hafer, a lot of GBs I've met fancy themselves as intellectuals. Suspect.
BRC didn't hold the line. Fuck em.
The fact they didn't even use the kids name shows how disrespectful they are as a company.
I think matt just seems like a douche canoe.
Sure he's a vet, but so what; so was mccain & bowe bergdahl.
Military service doesn't give you the right to abandon Constitutional Principles.
He's their VP, but I agree, it appears they took a neutral stance when the vast majority of their customers "like me" would have been willing to run and gun with a team to rescue Kyle if it came to it.
EDIT: Now that I have seen his donations to the left I am officially fucking done with them
Should not have a made wishy-washy statement. Or if they do, it should have been along the lines of "we are not going to profit in any way off of exigent circumstances that outside our control."
That ofc would have been false, since cherry pits are harvested by low-wage workers, so I would gone with "BRV doesn't make statements," and be done w it.
Turns out, they have a general opinion on 2A but aren't actual supporters of it.
Any organization not dedicated to being right wing becomes leftist.
https://mobile.twitter.com/TyCardon/status/1330607514770051073
That's the CEO of The Blaze commenting on things.
I wasn't talking about former... But you're right the pipe hitters don't flex nuts.
What about Rob O'Neill, Tu Lam, Kyle Lamb, Shawn Ryan, Mike Glover, etc?
Those are just a couple of my favorite operators turned YouTube stars & they all seem 100% legit; esp. Tu and Shawn.
Shawn's YouTube in case anyone is interested: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkoujZQZatbqy4KGcgjpVxQ
I get what you are saying, ChickNorris, about real deal dudes being quiet professionals & such, but it seems there are a LOT of retired SOF dudes capitalizing on their skills, opening schools, becoming YouTube stars for various reasons, becoming very hghly demanded public speakers, etc.
I've read horror stories of so many vets having a nightmare of a time finding their footing in the civilian world after retirement, so I'm beyond happy that the dudes I mentioned above - and so many more - seem to be doing damn good for themselves.
Again; I get what you are saying, but they're not puffing their chests, violating OPSEC, talking about their secret missions & such; nothing of the sort.
I can't see how anyone would begrudge any vet - but especially these Tier 1 guys - success.
They've earned it.
Rob O'Neil had a big story to tell. I've never heard of the other guys. And if they can make a supplemental income doing YT videos then good for them.
Personally, I think a lot of the SOF dudes that are getting out now and doing the YT star thing are young. The older guys, the ones that went through the Q course before standards were relaxed, the ones that go way back...did guerrilla warfare before OEF and OIF, the ones that lost buddys or watched them get blown to smithereens aren't making funny youtube videos. They are hanging out with their brothers that have seen what they saw. That's where they talk about their experiences.
I'm keeping my thoughts on Rob O'Neill to myself. I don't begrudge any vet, even Matt Best and his crew. I'm simply saying I lived with an SF guy for close to 10 years. I know a lot of them. None of them are on youtube now or even have a large internet presence. They don't want it.
Also, Operators are not struggling to find jobs. They have options. One guy I dated after SF hubby and I divorced was in a black ops unit. He retired and is now a Director at a company out in Montana that trains military and police dogs.
The operators, if they stayed in long enough to retire, are doing well for themselves. Except the ones with PTSD, they struggle.
Ironic surname
Always thought Matt Best seemed really queer. Conservatives just don't LARP & play in the same manner as that marxist douchenozzle does.
IF YOU DON'T SUPPORT SAINT RITTENHOUSE, GET FUCKED, BRC, MATT BEST, AND EVERYONE!!!!!!!!
This. Mat always seemed like an attention whore / wanna be celebrity, and Evan seems like a glowie.
Which, whatever, as long as they toe the conservative line, but they just fucked up and showed true colors.
So thats why the PR manager is an sjw...
Best formed Black Rifle Coffee Company in 2014, alongside Evan Hafer, Jarred Taylor and Richard Ryan. Apologies, co-founder.
What difference does it make that he is Jewish?
They typically are leftists who only care about their own tribe and America always comes second
This is the black pill TDW needs to swallow
AMEN.
Sure there are some good, conservative jews out there (Dennis Prager) but even from him, he's pro-israel above almost anything else.
It's like colored SJW's who are all about their race; their entire existence and identity is wrapped up in their skin color; pretty much all jews seem to be like this.
Cough ben shapiro cough
Sorry if I'm offending any jew-pedes, but you gotta admit it's true.....
This. “The tribe” comes first and will always come first. I could go on and on about the shit the Khazars have been up to
Please do.
Who are the khazars & what fuckery have they been up to?
I swear the number 109 relates to this somehow..
They hold all the power. They control everything. They aren’t Democrat or Republican. They are Zionists. They definitely take care of their own. They are behind some of the biggest lies in human history.
BINGO.
Maybe other Christians want to support other Christians. I literally only bought a mug and a shirt from them in september because I thought they were a right wing company. No it's just a jew working the "donate money to our vets" angle and "generic white supremacist disclaimer here". Whatever angle to get more money. No integrity. Taking us for suckers.
So what coffee company do we throw our money at now?
Folgers?
Deathwish coffee. Way better.
If the owner was muslim it would be front page news though
Boy, do you not have a single clue.
Educate me on how you judge people by their religion. I thought we judge people based on their ACTIONS, not their heritage or beliefs.
In a nation of diversity, people judge people by their identity
It's how the Human Race has always been, and probably always will be, Star Trek wishes notwithstanding
Oh you are gonna learn today lol
Aw
Pattern recognition is anti-semetic and/or racist depending on the subject.
it is called intelligence and you and I both know it. I see your sarcasm too.
I signed up for regular orders a while ago. That's getting cancelled immediately.
SPEZ: Cancelled. So long, BRCC! Could've made a fortune just like GOYA, but you decided to be cucks instead. Get woke, go broke.
Spez #2: The cancellation reason I gave them: "According to your press release, you "advocate for individual liberty and personal responsibility," but you "do not support legal advocacy efforts." In other words, you like to talk about individual liberty and use it to sell your products, but when push comes to shove you do not support defending the 2A in court. Good bye!"
I've never tried it, but Goya sells coffee and it's dirt cheap ($3-4/brick).
So where we buying our coffee now?
This company looks promising https://stockingmillcoffee.com/collections/coffee edit : oh shit they even sell a kyle patch that says "dont skate on me " kek!!
I’m not seeing anything about Kyle or don’t skate on me
Idk yet. Goya sells coffee. Might try that.
Cuck around find out. FIFY
The most frustrating part is they won't give you a legit response. We are telling them they are losing business over this, and they don't care. I've sent multiple emails and I've received multiple responses. All of their responses are the exact same comment. The same bullshit about how "Black Rifle Coffee Company does not sponsor legal advocacy efforts and does not have a relationship with Kyle Rittenhouse."
This is such a shame. BRCC was a sponsor of many of my favorites shows. Elijah, Crowder, Donut and several more. I supported their work. I supported their content and purchased items from their store solely because of their extra efforts. Fuck them. I unsubscribed from their coffee and their content. They can bend the knee to the cucks but can't acknowledge us.
Official statement.
https://www.blackriflecoffee.com/pages/official-statement-kenosha
"It’s why we support active duty service members and veterans, prioritize veteran hiring, and advocate for individual liberty and personal responsibility.
We do not support legal advocacy efforts."
In other words, they like to talk about individual liberty, but they will do nothing to actually support it. They do not support defending the 2a in court.
Bad move for a company branded around the rifle, not to support it's legal right to be owned by anyone outside of active military.
Wayne and Matt Best need new houses baby!
Fuck the GOA. In fact GOA-faggots are the ones who hate the POTUS and either voted for Biden or voted third party.
GOA are the actual anti-legal advocacy group. Where the fuck is their litigation?
They spend more time trolling online and shitting on the POTUS and NRA than actually fighting for the 2A against leftist dem states and cities.
WTF? What is your basis for this assertion?
Gonna need a LOT of links, man.
Fuck the GOA. In fact GOA-faggots are the ones who hate the POTUS and either voted for Biden or voted third party.
GOA are the actual anti-legal advocacy group. Where the fuck is their litigation?
They spend more time trolling online and shitting on the POTUS and NRA than actually fighting for the 2A against leftist dem states and cities.
No GOA is significantly better then the NRA.
But let's be serious trump, for all good he as done, is pretty weak on gun rights hence bumpstock ban(which was pushed for by the nra) and fix nics was passed under this admin. Oh and his atf is pulling some fuckery with pistol braces right now. Plus he never came though with the hearing protection act like he promised.
I’m salty there is no national CC
Now check the record of success for legal battles.
NRA choose their battles carefully and wins them most of the time.
GOA swings for the fences and looses a lot. Each of those losses is a precedent.
NRA's legal team has a better long term view.
Is fine, I was replying in general to the thread, not to you.
I'm okay with supporting both GOA and NRA. There are benefits to both approaches (and drawbacks)
unbelievably weak.
Much like their coffee. At least Starbucks lets you know up front where they stand.
*Starcucks.
Correction.
Thank you.
As you were.
Thanks, damn autocorrect.
;-)
Not endorsing him isn’t the same as condemning him though, even though I don’t buy tHeir shit no mo
they don't stand up to legally defending the 2A, then what is the point?
I agree, however they could have been like every other corporation and taken the SJW route and condemned him. Essentially alienating 99% of their consumer base. Either way, I don’t hold their neutrality against them. I do, however hold their overpriced and inferior products against them.
The difference is their branding and what people thought it stood for.
I thought that black rifle symbol stood for freedom and the oath to defend the constitution, especially the 2a, as did many others.
But according to their official statement, they don't.
It's that, plus pulling their ads from Eiljah Schaeffer that has some people upset
Black Rifle Cuckoldry
Couldn't imagine coming home to see my beautiful rifle in the arms of another man, but I guess that's just their thing...
Or asking an alpha male to come fire your rifle while you stand in the corner and watch lmao
And, at best, he tells you that you can replace the magazine, maybe.
He tells you that you can mop up his brass
Lol this is too good
No. They gain money by pushing far left propaganda. Like Biden doesn’t need our votes, these companies don’t need our money. Their far left handlers line their pockets with gold and in exchange cattle prod them to do their bidding. It’s why loser CNN doesn’t need our views. They just need that Soros money.
These companies we appreciate are not unlike the first album of an up and coming band we like. Then they get the attention of the powers that be, and sell out with progressively souless music.
Got it in one.
When you can print the money (which is what loans are), you can buy anything - market share, media.
What's happening to us is the same thing that happened to natives throughout the world in the 17-19th centuries. We printed beads and diluted the hell out of their bead currencies and bought a lot of their land that way.
They're not "bowing to the radical far left commie scum".
The BRC guys are military veterans. Trained professionals don't look kindly on reckless amateurs (especially children) picking up loaded guns and playing GI Joe in the street, because trained professionals know how dangerously stupid this is without proper training. When you get a grip on just how much training it takes to even have a chance at being able to handle yourself in these kinds of scenarios, the thought of some kid with zero training just picking up an AR and wading into a riot is extremely cringe inducing. No trained soldier would ever get behind that.
Every professional gunfighter I know shakes their head at these larpy Call of Duty™ cosplayers. So I don't see why the black rifle guys would be any different.
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Damn you sound like a huge fag lol
Exactly. OP has probably never fired a gun that doesn't shoot paint lol.
Something that a lot of civies don't get is just how little actually gets done in the military. I've gotten to do more shooting and exercised myself into better shape after getting out than I ever did while I was in. They don't really understand how much of the military is bullshit training, safety/sensitivity classes, standing around for pointless musters, and cleaning the same spots over and over again. The military is actually quite inefficient with how they handle the time of their service members.
Wrong.
lol
Spotted the Call of Duty cosplayer. ^^^
Sorry kid, but just picking up a gun doesn't make you a gunfighter. So don't be surprised when the real gunfighters (like the BRC guys) just shake their heads at you. They don't respect amateurs larping as gunfighters. Why would they? Why would real gunfighters respect larpy amateurs pretending to be gufnighters?
lmao what a fag
I'm not the one dressing up in cool tactical gear and posing in the mirror with guns, fantasizing about being a gunfighter. I don't need to. I'm what you fantasize about being when you do that.
Men who oper8 don't post about it like tough guys lol
Press X to doubt
A bullet doesn’t care if you’re a “professional gunfighter” or not, you fucking moron.
No, it doesn't. But you're less likely to get hit by that bullet if you actually know what you're doing, rather than being a sad wannabe playing make-believe GI Joe in the street.
That “sad wannabe playing make-believe GI Joe” has done more for this country than you, you fake ass “Patriot”. Fuck your oath, right? Gent bent, traitor.
Faggot
larper
do you work for BRCC, faggot? you seem upset 😄👌
I think you lost this one Matt.
You guys, this guy knows all about GUNFIGHTERS!
This sort of smug gatekeeping sounds pretty liberal to me, bud
Let’s go the other way then. BRC is a bunch of dudes that went on the government dole to FOLLOW ORDERS in proxy wars that weren’t to our benefit or direct defense.
BASED
You can shit on them for being veterans all you like, the fact remains: They're real gunfighters. Trained professionals. Rittenhouse meanwhile was an amateur/larper.
Trained pros do not respect amateur/larpers. And for good reason. To anyone who's actually qualified to understand this subject matter, Rittenhouse picking up an AR and wading into riot is about as sensible as a four year old getting behind the wheel of a car.
I get it, everyone wants to think they're the real thing when they dress up in cool gear and pose in front of the mirror with their gun, but that's not real. That's make believe. Don't expect the real, trained professionals to see you the way you see yourself when you're posing in the mirror with your tactical cosplay gear and guns. A little self awareness, please. Of course those BRC guys are shaking their heads.
Good thing for us is the founders were a mix of “professionals” and fuckups alike.
In case anyone wants to file it away for future reference, this is what egregious No True Scotsman looks like in person.
So if the government decides to actually do a gun grab, who do you think will be the ones to stand up. You are an idiot. You cant rely on the military to do whats right. There was a DAMN GOOD REASON the USA mainland was NOT invaded in WWII. Quote from Japanese admiral Yamamoto, "To invade the Unites States would prove most difficult because behind every blade of grass is an American with a rifle". End quote.
"Muh professionals."
If that's how they feel, then it's pretty hypocritical to build a brand around "reckless amateurs" owning black rifles, that trades off glamorizing "operator" culture to civilians.
Sure, Kyle was stupid. But you don't see many of these "muh professionalism" naysayers out running small unit tactics training to bring civilian skills up to par. You wanna call names like a big man or be part of the solution?
The answer to shitty civilian gun culture is more training – funnily enough, well-trained, well-armed civilians is the last thing they want.
As it is, seems like the options you approve would be: 1) give up careers, families, etc., to fight the forever war for a globalist ruling class that hates us 2) Be a cop enforcing stupid laws 3) Simply bend over for the globalists and their JBTs.
Not to mention that many of the "muh professionals" don't get much real tactical training in any case – sure, SOF units and high-level SWAT teams – but grunts and beat cops aren't even that trained in any case.
That's because they're trained soldiers. They know you cannot bring a person's skills "up to par" by running weekend courses. It doesn't work like that. That's why soldiers have to go through months and months of intensive, punishing, exhaustive training to get to a minimum level of competence. Anything less than that is larping.
That's because there's no such thing as a "well-trained" civilian, for the reasons I outlined above (veterans notwithstanding). There are only larpers.
The Second Amendment was written for people just like Kyle - regular people who form the militia.
And he was not a larper dressed in "tacti-cool" gear, he was dressed in normal street clothes.
The 2A is about a, quote: "well regulated militia"
Some random child with zero training just picking up a gun and charging into a riot is the opposite of that.
The 2A applies to the people - citizens of the USA - because a militia is formed by the people. The right to bear arms does not apply only to a standing army of soldiers trained to the satisfaction of Ham Sandwich. It is the right OF THE PEOPLE.
"well regulated", dummy, means well trained, prepared, loaded, ect.
Kyle was all of that. And not an idiot who ran into a mob. He went their to help the city and people, and was violently attacked for doing so.
Oh you're a leftist. That makes way more sense.
If you try to open your soy face up any wider for SF dick you'll dislocate your jaw. I know SWAT guys who take their shit seriously--and there are about twelve of them who actually know more than the "civilians" I shoot with, in a city of millions.
You describe Kyle as "wading" into the protest yet that's such a huge gaping anus of a misrepresentation of what happened that you've well and truly fucked your credibility.
And to see you hamming up the "2A IS ABOUT A REGULATED MILITIA" language below -- the same deliberate misunderstanding of colloquial language contemporary with the writing of the Bill or Rights that I've heard from gun control cocksuckers for twenty years, well and truly loses you what little dignity you had left: lacking all credibility, your waning dignity was the only thing you had left to lose.
It's a lot simpler than that.
Not sure if you're aware, but he has an outstanding intentional homicide case that may very well end badly for him.
And he came within an inch of losing that fight. He's very lucky to have come out on top of that one.
They could literally just have stayed out of it too, if they thought it was controversial or didn’t know what happened based on evidence.
If you want to stay out of a 2a fight, don't have the symbol for the 2a as your logo and brand name.
They can't control who wears a shirt for whatever reason.
All they had to say is we didn't give him that shirt and be done.
Instead, they went ahead and said "we don't support legal advocacy" which gun world means... FUCK YOU we got ours and we don't actually care about gun owners.
How exactly did this happen?
Beck tweeted a picture of Kyle and that equates to "fucking with his sponsors"?
Bullshit.
What other pic of Kyle was he supposed to tweet? He has no control over what Kyle was wearing.
Okay. Have you seen the contract?
Then talk about due process. It’s on the court to decide his guilt or innocence, not Twitter.
Bad PR move, but the reason they did it is they don't just sell coffee bags to conservatives. They distribute to shops, they have cans on shelves and distribution deals.
It's all about money - of course they would have been best to say NOTHING.
Yeah I just like doing things for a good cause or to support people which is why I was going to try their coffee.
They support 'merica up until it costs them money
The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country
but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman.
His*
It didn’t cost them anything. Liberals are not their customers. They just insulted and betrayed their customers
Exactly. Show me a lefty buying their coffee.
they really don't
TBH that sounds a bit like the virtue signaling idiocy that destroyed comics "I was going to buy your comic, but it's full of racist bigoted homophobes so I'll save my money now. Thanks Marvel/DC/other"
Yes its like that, except we are right.
it's not so much about right or wrong but you can't let the left boycott companies while corporations shill for them and do nothing, you have to fight back
Its always about right vs wrong.
Yeah and anyone that was into comics has watched as the comics industry has been on a sharp decline for years. It's so bad that Marvel and DC are both talking about not even making comics anymore. They'll then try to use the corona virus an excuse, but those of us in the know know that it's been their pushing of work politics for nearly the past decade that has driven away their customers.
When you take a hero like Captain America and turn him into a Nazi, then take his archenemy the Red Skull and have him recite conservative talking points to villainize them, you're going to lose your customers. It's an easy bet to guess that I haven't bought a single Captain America comic since then and that they didn't bring in any new customers to replace me.
At first I lamented the comic industry's collapse, but now I welcome it. Let them burn in the fire they created.
I mean, if you haven't spent money the FYI is appreciated... but you really don't have any skin in this game tbh. You're doing the same virtue signaling nonsense that we have called out the other side for doing for years now.
IMO virtue signaling weakens your position.
No its not the same. They are wrong and we are right.
We all have skin in this game by the way.
What, in the fight against terrorist coffee?
You're just pissed I called you out on the virtue signaling.
I'm pissed that you are too stupid to understand the culture war. I'll virtue signal all day long, my virtues are important.
There's a big difference between virtue signaling or trying to get something canceled for woke points and boycotting a company whose values are antithetical to your own. The former is an attempt to slander and destroy, whereas the latter is just a refusal to provide support.
Forgive me if I don't want my money to end up in the hands of antifa + assorted groups and the dems pockets when these same companies cuck out completely and donate to them like chickfila did.
The difference with comics was non-comic fans were surging in to complain about z and demanding it got changed, then they pandered, they're doing the same thing with warhammer 40k, most of these fanbases don't give a damn about being woke as seen by gamergate.
I don't go to leftist knitting clubs and try to torpedo their hobbies by implementing my politics into them, I just ignore them. I'm well within my rights not to give money to a company I used to support that turned its back on me, I'm not ruining it for anyone else in that instance.
In this case BRC claims to support 2A and it turns out they don't really, when it comes down to it.
If you can't see the difference between boycotting (which I'm totally fine with the left doing, it's a free market) and the left's censorship/deplatforming/harassment campaigns you're being willfully obtuse.
Strongly disagree. Black Rifle was unique in that it advertised to conservatives, and purchasing it as a product was something for conservatives to do to choose to purchase from a brand that specifically reflected their values. It was the Raid: Shadow Legends of conservative media. Nobody was earnestly buying from this brand because they thought it was good coffee alone.
"It's all about money"
Well boy oh boy is this a great way to lose money. Leftists would look at the name of the coffee on the bag and want to figure out a way to ban the scary name due to it mentioning a rifle. I'm sure they understand who their target market was - they are just fucking retarded. KEK!
That's the thing. I understand the whole argument of "if they said nothing they also appeal to liberals" without realizing liberals weren't buying their coffee to begin with. Liberals hated them and probably still hate them. The better business strategy is to pander to the people who are already supporting you and keeping you afloat and double down on them. It's the same thing with NASCAR when they did the BLM shit, they don't realize that blue collar, conservative, southern White Christians are the ones who made NASCAR a household name, they don't NEED any liberals watching and quite frankly NASCAR isn't for liberals anyway. It's just like with the recent election, Trump won last time by only winning the White vote, and this time he not only got the White vote but also got a significant amount of the black and Hispanic vote and they STILL want us to believe Biden won.
They don’t want to lose their product placement at Bass Pro shop I bet
Canada has them listed on their black list of arms manufacturers or something in a law they recently passed.
They're so dumb they listed a coffee company on a black list of an arms manufacturer IN A LAW because of the name "black rifle".....
Cuckery knows no bounds on stupidity.
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Correct. You can stop there. Nobody actually complaining would represent a significant market share. Normies who don't care about politics wouldn't even know about it and probably don't even know who the kid is and wouldn't understand the complaints. Nobody reasonable thinks that someone wearing a company's shirt is a reverse endorsement of that person by the company.
Have you seen their videos? They make fun of leftists, SJWs and other hypocrites all the time.
That makes the whole affair even more sad.
"In a world when 1 man stood up to the mob, we took a knee" - BRC epitaph.
I have like five posts defending BRC, but then I read that they didn't just disavow the photograph, they pulled their sponsorship from the person who posted it. That's a lot of effort to distance themselves from a hero. I'll match their effort by removing my subscription. Fair enough.
We just cancelled our subscription too. That's about $600 in lost annual sales just from our one house.
OOof, well said
Or they coulda just said “that guy could probably use a good cup of coffee”.
Or maybe just be neutral, and say something like: "We do not have an affiliation with Kyle Rittenhouse."
That's it. It's just a plain fact. Doubt anyone on either side would flip out over that.
Lol.
I can't imagine he bought the shirt and it looks pretty new in the pic. Wonder who gave it to him.
I like the people downvoting ugly truths.
Imagine if they literally just said nothing? They went out of their way to mess that up.
They could have done neither too, like it’s coffee and it’s not like employees there are forced to believe what the company believes. Just really dumb PR.
Well then I guess Ill buy my coffee for cheaper from one of the many other companies that just wants my money.
I just looked at that stockingmillcoffee.com everyone is mentioning and they look patriotic and Christian. I hope their coffee is good. We're going to try it.
theyd be swimming in customers if they did tho
and every other companies is now walking about w/ BLM or hammer and sickles in their social media profiles so, what's wrong with supported a cause then? right?
as someone said, if they made one of their overdone video commercials of breaking him out of jail, it would have been a huge hit
Fucking faggots should be supporting Kyle and pumped he ended up with their shirt on. 2A my ass, fucking limp wrists wanting to suck dick for money.
If I were them, I would have funded his bail and flooded him with BRC material to wear. Kyle literally embodies Why the second amendment is vital. The police weren't going to come and rescue him. He was alone on a street pursued for blocks by people intent on killing him for extinguishing fires that they had set.
He literally stopped the america-wide riots over night.
Commies stopped coming out in as large of numbers when they realized we are going to start dropping them.
They’re a bunch of corporate frat boy faggots.
This is just noise. That being said, go woke get broke.
BRC denied pulling ads.
https://mobile.twitter.com/goodblackdude/status/1330565681058758657
Early this morning I saw two handshakes break the story. One them was called NaggerLover, which is a shill name if I ever heard one.
thats exactly right. absolutely no excuses
The kid will go down in history as a hero. Never forget.
It doesn't matter. They disavowed Kyle multiple times on twitter. Fuck em.
no one gives a shit about mockingbird Glen Beck.
We care about what they said about Kyle.
exactly
LOL
yes mods, please keep these sticking going
ignore the simp boys trying to tell us to not talk about tucker, or tim, or BRC
this is a website that, like reddit, is based on user content, with the only rule being that is is pro-trump or conservative based
breaking news does not happen every 5 minutes
I really enjoy that I can get other conservative related news and memes here in the down-time between news drops. DO NOT CATER TO THE CUCKS
The Mods are doing an excellent job for real.
We have SO MANY SHILLS AND CUCKS now it's ridiculous. Mods are still gods.
We have the best mods don’t we folks?
It’s pretty pathetic that a pillow merchant has more balls and courage than a bunch of posers calling themselves Black Rifle.
Thanks MODS for the stickie on my low effort meme. I am not worthy.
They should have said that anyone can wear whatever they want. They fucked up when they put their opinion in.
Haha yep, i dont usually buy expensive Coffee, i like my cheap $12 jumbo bag from bjs. But was about to buy some christmas gifts from them... Whoops glad i didnt click submit
I wanted to buy some more pillows from Mike but then I realized I have 9 of them.
BIGLY BASED PILLOWS
If you're having problems getting through to them, cancel through your bank/card carrier.
Okay, so just my two cents, take this for what you will.
brc, might be vet owned and operated. Might be ran by good people, I don't know - i never bothered with he hype and jumped on their bandwagon. It has become clear to me, now more than ever, these guys were just 2A LARPers and used it to push their brand.
I don't support Kyle Rittenhouse for killing people, I support Kyle Rittenhouse for putting himself in a hostile situation and protecting himself by any means necessary, when other "patriots" wouldn't. That boy is a patriot through and through - these guys just sell coffee... Fuck them.
Yeah, coffee sellers wussing out won’t keep me up at night, but I’m not giving my $$$ to people that won’t back Kyle. There’s IronClad coffee roasters in RVA that seem based - they dig all the Babylon Bee memes and I’ve seen them make some subtle based messages - also family owned. Might need to reach out.
I mean, its just my opinion, but BRC's whole marketing scheme was appealing to gun enthusiasts and used their veteran status as clout, along side some beautiful girls holding up guns and shit. They're weren't "asking" for support, they were marketing for it and with retweets from JR and active promotion here on T_D, they made enough money to not give a fuck and shill.
I'm sure BRC has their reasons to shill - but to me personally, as a veteran myself, this move they pulled was extremely unpatriotic -- and I would think they would know the difference, but I guess not.
As far as coffee goes, I support what's local as long as they stay apolitical. I'll support anything as long as they stay apolitical. BRC, in my opinion, used politics to sell the brand, just like Nike ads appeal to BLM and the NBA appeals to China. Lets be realistic, BRC just so happen to gain notoriety during a time of gun grabs and bans - which made the blow up, and now they are just proving they have no idea what 2A really means. No fucking idea. They meme'd themselves.
I understand if they don't support Kyle. I totally understand that. He's a controversial figure. But making a statement that favors the left is a slap in the face. So, fuck Black Rifle Coffee. If they had said nothing, I'd be okay with buying their coffee.
yep. i'm sick of this appeasement angle that's been going on for far too long. it's our fault. we've tolerated it from our representatives. we tried to be civil.
Upvote for correct usage of Blue Falcon. I'm going to give Hunter's Blend coffee a try myself, now that BRC snapped into the fetal position as soon as they faced a little bit of woke pressure.
I almost switched because of Crowder a while ago but I didn't and I've never been more proud to drink Infowars coffee.
https://www.infowarsstore.com/immune-support-blend-100-organic-coffee
I give it a 1776/100
Arabica are about as bog standard as you can get with a medium/dark roast. Without the shrooms it's just coffee. "Certified-organic, shade grown" is all marketing.
I didn't know infowars had coffee. Guess I'm ordering some Alex Jones coffee.
How does it taste?
I wasn’t sure what to expect, but the beans are fresh and I like the smell/taste. I use a French press and normally mix it with some dark chocolate oat milk but it’s pretty good black as well. I’m not exactly a coffee snob but it wasn’t too expensive and I like supporting Alex Jones because even if I don’t agree with him 100% all the time, he’s been punished too much by tech monopoly censorship. Fuck censorship and fuck riggers.
I'm sure Crowder will avoid talking about it so he can keep shilling them. He's always been off and let slip with some things. Like back in the summer when he said if Trump didn't take a stronger stance on the riots he wouldn't vote for him. He never did clarify if he changed his mind about that, and now, even though he covers the election fraud, he still also goes on about how we shouldn't panic and it wouldn't be the end of the world if biden got into office. Like bitch, did you miss the part about them wanting to round up Trump supporters? You're on at that list and I imagine higher up than most. He needs to grow some fucking balls for once, but alas, he is ultimately a Canadian.
Checks corporate HQ and leadership.
Utah and Blue Texas.
Imagine my shock. Superficial "conservatives" grifting on gun-bros with cringe-tier marketing. Sorry Crowder, I bought your mugs and you suffered for your convictions but BRCCucks ain't our friends.
Just like that one eye patch politician that tries to make himself look like Solid Snake/Big Boss and a grizzled conservative war veteran, but then is staunchly in favor of further gun restrictions. His name escapes me at the moment, but I'm sure somebody here knows who I'm talking about.
EDIT: Crenshaw! The guy's name is Crenshaw.
Same! I was gonna get everyone on my list their products but guess not anymore!
*Christmas list
Let leftists buy your Black Rifle Coffee. Of course they will just change the name to something like Butt Pirate Coffee.
Xe/Xir Coffee Collective
Kek
For leftists, they'll should probably rebrand themselves as rainbow dildo coffee.
They just straight Hindenburged their brand. "Black Rifle Coffee...Its just a picture for our targeted demographic that we do not even hold silent neutrality for!"
Totally. I was going to buy some but now, never will. They just shot themselves in the foot.
I'm trying to cancel my subscription now - stupid password recovery is being a pain.
Ugh. I already ordered a T-shirt from them before I saw this.
Thanks that is what I will have to do. My email to them bounced.
Y’all know Mat Best was a CIA contractor prior to joining up with Black Rifle Coffee. Right?
Yuck
I know I'm going to get a hate wave here and called a "shill" but here it goes.
Why would you buy something just because it "looked like" they supported K.R?
Why not because with every purchase they donate to support our Veterans, first responders, and active military? Why not because they openly support police and openly donate to them? Why not because they actually have good coffee?
You clearly had no intention of buying because they support good causes that do good in the world, so rescinding a decision you weren't going to make in the first place means nothing.
Someone wearing a shirt with a logo on it (that a company sells to the public on their site) doesn't mean that person is supported by the company and to assume so is stupid.
The Blaze made the connection between KR and BRC (without their permission) that wasn't there and when BRC had "the nerve" to say "We aren't affiliated with this person", everyone lost their minds.
Was it a bad move to pull sponsorship? Yes. It is likely a legal/ contract issue and will probably be worked out so we need to do what we always say we do and wait for more information. Stop with the knee-jerk reactions. Leave that to the left.
wise words
Nah, fuck Black Rifle Coffee. There are other companies, and other ways to support vets. I don't have to support vets through branded coffee purchases. I'll get some cheap coffee, and the money I saved can go to vets some other way.
And I will continue to vote with my dollars. So, the left is doing it, too? That means we can't either? So, be a zombie that just consumes anything? Nah. Fuck that. Worked too hard for my money. Spend your money on the right companies. Let these lefty companies drown, and die off, if they wanna be assholes, and cowards.
Exactly the point I was making above and automatically get called a "liberal" and "simp". Too many people talk such a big game when it's not their company/livelihood being given a certain image that they did not ask for. Sad.
Had to scroll way too far down to find this.
It’s a shame I had to scroll to the bottom to see this, the amount of pearl clutching going on in these threads is astounding.
cuckservatives at their finest
They just make money by pandering. Fuck this company. They’re just a branding gimmick
They can suck it then - they have forgotten the point of a black rifle.
Yep, their PR people shot the owners in the foot.
Don't be fooled by Black Rifle Coffee! They're actually a shit company.
What!?!?!? They don’t support him?
LITERALLY WTF
Was about to Goya buy them.
Someone tell Gavin McInnes, he will drop them as advertisers
Say nothing you fools. Let people chatter then watch the mob of idiots move into the next outrage.
make sure you email them to let them know they dun goofed.
I was about to do the same thing. Fuck that, not giving them my money.
Let the dick smokers sell to Fox viewers.
I wonder what Crowder will do?
He only has one choice if he wants to be taken seriously.
He's friends with Crenshaw, gets paid by Blaze, and co-streams with Shapiro. He'll likely keep his mouth shut.
Take their money, and not buy their coffee. LOL.
He will have to find a new company to make filler jokes about.
Wife and I. We drink a lot of coffee.
I was about to order a shit load for my dad.
I was going to. I’ll stick with my old coffee now
I'm so glad I never bought this shitty coffee... Always got the vibe that they were pandering to fudds and hipsters
Anyone have a link to where this happened?
Same here. Oh well.