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The way Enrique characterised this statement is correct. The only thing it says about Kyle is that they don't sponsor him financially nor have a relationship with him.
But look at their twitter replies. They spammed this response to dozens of random twitter users, caving to the mob and lending them legitimacy.
Untrue. We do not participate in legal advocacy efforts. We did not sponsor nor do we have a relationship with the 17-year-old facing charges in Kenosha, WI.
I'll say it again. They WENT OUT OF THEIR WAY for nobodies, dozens of times on twitter to distance themselves from Kyle. It's like if a VPN company distanced themselves from Assange (49 year old facing charges) wearing one of their shirts.
I emailed as well and very likely got the same copy pasta that you got. Additionally, I've noticed in the response, that my name has been changed to Sunshine_User. Not sure if that is a new label?? It is certainly not my name and I have no idea where it came from!
This is what I wrote:
sunshine_user
Nov 22, 2020, 15:36 CST
Hello,
Some recent news has been brought to my attention and I was curious if you could speak to it.
It would seem to me that a company built upon the foundations of our Constitution and the fundamentals of personal liberty and the ability to defend oneself would be interested in upholding and defending these ideals. I didn't purchase from your company with the understanding that, when you discuss these liberties, that you were merely using them as branding points without serious consideration of their actual meaning, or real world application.
I would like to order from you guys again, but only in good conscience. Your branding and flavors are lovely, but who really cares? At the end of the day, if you don't actually believe and defend what your company was founded upon, then you are a mere hollow shell built upon a shoddy impersonation of the real thing. How sad.
Why did they respond to any of these people? Do they think any of these people actually buy coffee from a "right-wing" coffee company? They would've been better off to just ignore them.
This is nothing new, either. It’s how the Leftists operate...like locusts.
They invade some space - a movie fandom, or a particular food fandom, or whatever - that they never even cares about. Then they ruin it from the inside out with their insane leftist cuckery. Then all the real fans leave and all that remains is an empty decayed husk...
I get that, but how long have these cancel-culture faggots been at this on social media? Seven or eight years? Whenever that "dongle joke" at a conference got two people fired. At this point everyone should know the outrage mob is fickle and will move on to shame the next "outrage" in a week. They can safely be ignored. Actually, it would probably be a day to three tops considering the 24hr news cycle is currently packed with "OrAnGe MaN iS UnDeRMInInG oUr 'DeMoCrAcY.'"
True, 3% is also a significant number, normies don't like to be involved in anything uncomfortable and they'll go along with anyone in power as long as they get to be comfortable. This is why manufactured consent, twitter / MSM, is such an impactful thing.
The way Goya handled the CC should provide a roadmap for every company that gets targeted. As soon as the soy boys feel resistance they back the fuck off.
Why don't they have a financial relationship with Kyle? BRCC didn't jump onto the scene because they innovated in coffee quality or price, they became known 100% due to the corporate brand they were presenting. And that brand was a highly politicized pro-2nd amendment brand. You don't get to build your business on that then fall back to "we're politically neutral" when it suits you.
If their brand was cheap coffee, or custom coffee, or tasty coffee, then sure I would expect and even respect them for taking a strict non-political stance. But you don't get to build your business claiming to be patriotic then swap to politically neutral.
The Proud Boys should not be running cover for BRC.
I could give two shits about the coffee company. I’ve never tasted their coffee or purchased any of their merchandise.
I’m just saying that for Proud Boys to state that this was a lefty journalist and not the official position seems to implicate Proud Boys in the fuckery.
No, the statement from BRCC is accurate and calculated. They are not playing politics on this issue. I wish they would, but they chose not to and that is honestly the wisest move for them as a company.
If you’re going to boycott them over this, fine. You’re probably the same person willing to dump Tucker despite his years of service to the cause.
My posts are in regards to the Proud Boys claiming ‘BRC has not officially made a statement and were misquoted by a liberal reporter.’
The statement is on their website and was tweeted out by their official account.
You can agree with BRC’s position all day long but that just confirms that BRC has taken an official position. My point is that Proud Boys either need to stay out of it or to be honest/accurate in their reporting.
You are saying that statement wasn’t much of a “statement” and that’s a fine opinion for you to have about BRC’s official statement that is on their website and that they tweeted out.
But what you ARE NOT SAYING is that BRC has NOT made any official statement, that the statement being attributed to them is just a liberal reporter misquoting them, and that we should all withhold our judgement until there is a statement.
That would just be dishonest for you to say that.
It looks like PB’s Enrique is trying to get everyone on here to stop shitting on BRC for their weak ass non-“statement” while BRC leaves the “official statement” up to appease the lefties.
The biggest issue that people seem to have with BRC is that they have been building their brand off of strong 2A defense and love of country and defending freedom but now that someone exercised that 2A right and happened to be wearing their shirt they are disavowing the cause.
For the record, the Second Amendment is an ongoing legal battle and they have built their brand in the 2A crowd. To now claim they avoid legal cases is chickenshit.
I was never a fan of Fox news, nor TV in general, so I never watched the programming. I did enjoy Tucker's videos I could find online.
But since I was never in love with the guy in the first place, I don't feel like I was betrayed. He is nothing more than a guy on TV that says things, that I either agree with or don't.
Therefore I do not really feel slighted by whatever recent gaffe he made. No matter how bad that gaffe was, he still has a long history of being aligned with our movement.
Be a fair weather friend if you want. I'd suggest it is better to forgive and keep our allies close.
Were in the middle of the main event for all the marbles. Deploy all assets, demonstrate your loyalty now or never. Anybody hiding in the trenches or hedging because maybe they'll lose corporate sponsorships is officially blacklisted when we emerge from the fight. 2A is the solution to the problem of an oppressive or neglectful governance. Ignore the reasons we need 2A (like the violence allowed to happen in Kenosha) and black rifle is just a coffee company trading off a veteran status, nothing more. Let the government have it's way and they'll Black Fork Coffee like in the UK.
You’re probably conflating choices we make as consumers with choices companies make as marketers.
I agree that it is disappointing the company didn’t stick up for Kyle. But it is also to be expected, because they’re a coffee company, not an activist group.
A lot of people seem to be struggling with that last part, myself included, just less so than the people losing their minds over it and calling it some kind of debacle.
Companies should remain neutral. These people make coffee, not political statements. It is that simple.
If you want a coffee company that speaks your politics, start it. I’d buy your stuff if it was pro Trump.
I also bought some BRCC coffee and my wife didn’t like it. They have more varieties to try but I probably won’t be buying because I don’t like their lack of support for Kyle.
Having said, it if were my company, I’d also remain neutral.
Companies should remain neutral. These people make coffee, not political statements. It is that simple.
In most cases I'd agree, but this is a company that made their brand and heavily marketed based on political and patriotic statements and views, supporting the Constitution and the Second Amendment in particular. They weren't really neutral to begin with, and attempting to play that way now really doesn't sit well with most people who supported their company, myself included.
I work in crisis communications at a PR firm. When a scandal happens or when a company is pulled into controversy, public statements must be approved by executives before the statement is released. The PR firm writes the statement and then the company must approve or deny it before it gets released to the media. BRCC approved that statement. It wasn’t some rogue journalist or PR person.
I don't agree with this. Only the marxists burn down the houses of everyone that doesn't fly the flag. If they are actively against us then go after them, but just because they aren't actively supporting every cause you have isn't going to get me to blacklist them.
I'm pro 2A but I don't send nearly as much money to pro 2A groups as many people. So I must not actually be pro 2A because I don't clear the artificial barrier to entry.
I'm fine with them saying they are pro 2A, as long as they aren't actually donating to groups against it.
I agree. They remained neutral in this case, which is disappointing, but understandable from a business perspective. A bad PR move given that their primary customers are conservative and tend to be in support of Kyle.
This is one of these things which raises suspicion and distrust towards the company, but blacklisting them is an extreme reaction. I think the people are just on edge here. Understandable, because things take time.
I think if you look for any flaws in people or groups, you will find them, especially if you raise the standards to a point where any flaws are inacceptable. This is a purity spiral, and it is a degenerative, self-destructive force to a movement, as it becomes more and more radical over a short period of time. As it progresses, people who are more moderate are ejected.
To some degree that's good, but to a larger degree, it's bad.
Is this shilling or something? You guys are flipping out over basically nothing. They didn't condemn kyle, they didn't start preaching social justice, nothing like that. All they did was say they weren't affiliated with someone wearing their company logo. Who cares? Probably not a good idea to become leftists who boycott anyone who doesn't 100% fully adhere to their views.
Big difference between a leftist boycott and conservative’s refusal to do business with a company that has revealed themselves to be disingenuous and unprincipled...
The statement isn't that bad in my opinion. I'm seeing some comments that they donate to democrats though, and if that's the case, I'd never buy their products. Depending on when it was. I was personally an Obama supporter before though, so I can't judge someone for that. Here in Canada, I only saw the left wing perspective and didn't follow politics. Soon as I started I realized how corrupt everything was. That was thanks to this glorious place. Anyway, the point is that donating to Obama/democrats isn't really evidence of much, as long as it wasn't done recently.
Their statement was clear and anyone who is still giving them the benefit of doubt are retards. They will walk it back so they can continue to make money by pandering to you, you bunch of idiots. They showed what side they were on, fuck em.
Ok, but is the left wing media running their twitter account? The one that's continually spamming replies that they don't financially support Kyle, but crucially, doesn't make any statement that they support his right to self-defense?
BRC cancelled its sponsorship of a podcast over a pic of Kyle in a BRC shirt and immediately distanced themselves.
Any official statement will be CYA bullshit aimed at restoring their tacticool image as they realize the leftists initially pressuring them would never drink their coffee.
Spez: This claim of BRC cuckoldry (cancelling a sponsorship) is under dispute. It is not disputed that BRC distanced from Kyle really quickly and only supports an unused version of 2A.
its the same thing where we are polite and wait for answers, meanwhile anyone that is even publicly centrist will be destroyed. Merely saying "I'll wait for all the details" is considered Fascism by these folks. These companies will throw us under the bus anyways. because 'we're patient and will understand'. Fuck that.
They take a stand right up until the rubber meets the road, then they want to make sure people understand theyre distancing themselves. Sad man. They only seem to be pro 2a when it means shooting explosives and trying to look patriotic. You can bet if the rapid leftist nazis started throwing us in the gulags brcc would come put with a statement along the lines of "we have no relationship with those jews youre throwing in the furnaces. We are distancing ourselves from them"
I still don't like the guy. All thoughout his year's he's been caught doing shady shit. I think what he's doing now is good. Still doesn't mean I like the guy.
Bannon is grifting right now while the grifting is still good. He'll show his true colors soon. People here who aren't at least skeptical of him will realize.
He's done too much shady shit in the past to be trusted now.
Who gives a shit about coffee. Ive been informing a lot of ppl about td.win lately and I would really like them to see the evidence of fraud over coffee.
"Were sorry. Please continue buying our shit tasting, expensive coffee. We paid The Proud Boys to issue a statement blaming liberals and the msm, so we cool now" - BRC probably
Fuck these arrogant bitches, who take money from conservatives and get rich, and then sell out the very 2nd amendment they supposedly espouse. They need to change their fucking name. How about "scared yuppy" coffee, that would suit them better.
I bought their product strictly for their stance on 2A. Wasn’t impressed anyways but thought “hey at least they are a cool company”. Well if they fold to pressure to people that would never actually buy their product they can go in the category of not worth it. Hope they fade to obscurity
So I read their official press release... fuck Black Rifle Coffee.
We should go back to gathering evidence of voter fraud and better understanding how the violent Marxist left intends to overthrow or subvert our constitutional republic. We don't have time to worry about millionaires who sell coffee.
This is why the Right lost the culture war. We'll wait for the already demolished reputation of the Kenosha Kid's reputation in the mainstream to be cleared, gone through the proper channels, etc. But if the Left wants to assassinate anyone's reputation they'll have them fired within an hour. And we'll wait days and weeks, happily enjoying a:
"A Blue ribbon committee headed by Graham is being formed to draft a letter to ask the company in question to please be nicer to the Right."
Companies don't have to publicly uphold good values. They know we'll be moderate and 'understand' why we need to be taken out back and shot. Wouldn't want to ruffle CNN's feathers.
The only i can say on this matter is the fact that they have not supported Kyle as of yet means that they are worried about their name brand and or sales.
But i would doubt very much so that there are even any liberal lefties who are drinking their coffee anyways, so I say BFCC you should support Kyle and make it known becuase it seems like only patriots were buying your coffee to begin with and by not supporting him youll see a drop in revenue.
And i was thinking about buying your coffee but now I have to wait and see if your cucked or not. And same goes with tens of thousands of Americans.
BRCC had a golden opportunity to make a “Free Kyle” blend and a portion of the proceeds goes to Kyle’s defense fund. Win/Win.win. Instead, all of us are gladly sleeping on badass Patriot pillows because Mike Lindell didn’t need to take a moment to figure out who’s side he’s on. I have no sympathy for these guys.
That might’ve been their thinking, that they’d be narrowing their customer base. But do you think leftist cucks buy their coffee from BRCC, or get their soy latte at their local hipster joint? Plus you can shoot up in a starbucks bathroom, take a nap there and walk out with a sandwich. And they can’t stop you because it’s RACISSSSSSS!!!!!
Fuck these faggots. Go woke, go broke. They're an 80 million dollar company BTW, they obviously don't give a shit about the 2nd amendment, they are full retard cucked.
If Fox13 lied, then I will take back everything bad I said about their so called "response."
That is how normal people are. I am working with the information I have and will gladly change my opinion once new facts come to light.
The media is public enemy #1 so it wouldnt be a surprise if they were outright lying. We shall see!
HOWEVER, their OFFICIAL WEBSITE has a crappy response regarding Kyle, sooooo Im not totally convinced they were totally "misrepresented." Maybe they changed their mind, due to the financial loss.
I agree that statements are taken out of context and misquoted and outright lied about by the fake news media all the time. The quote is a non-issue to me.
This all comes down to the question of: did they cancel or intend to cancel sponsorship? Actions speak louder than words. If they did, that's cancel culture and if you support cancel culture then you aren't even supporting the 1st Amendment let alone the 2nd.
On the other hand, if that report was a lie, then BRCC needs to sue that reporter/news outlet for libel because they for damn sure knew how that lie would be taken by BRCC's customer base and that absolutely damaged their brand.
I don't get why he keeps saying he was misrepresented when his statement is on his website https://www.blackriflecoffee.com/pages/official-statement-kenosha
Is he claiming he has some left wing worker editing his site for him? He should have either came out in support of Kyle or kept his mouth shut.
The way Enrique characterised this statement is correct. The only thing it says about Kyle is that they don't sponsor him financially nor have a relationship with him.
But look at their twitter replies. They spammed this response to dozens of random twitter users, caving to the mob and lending them legitimacy.
I'll say it again. They WENT OUT OF THEIR WAY for nobodies, dozens of times on twitter to distance themselves from Kyle. It's like if a VPN company distanced themselves from Assange (49 year old facing charges) wearing one of their shirts.
https://www.twitter.com/blckriflecoffee/with_replies
Yep, they said it and owned it. Multiple times on multiple platforms. Don’t backtrack now.
Maybe they can make a Tucker blend
Looks like coffee, smells like coffee, tastes like shit?
Sooo nothing changes?
(I'm not a fan of their coffee)
😂
My sides
They're taking his personhood away by calling him "That 17 YO" Like... dude. Who wrote that? Who is responsible for those words?
Agreed.
Everything I’ve seen is BRCC doubling down and trying to appease leftards
I emailed as well and very likely got the same copy pasta that you got. Additionally, I've noticed in the response, that my name has been changed to Sunshine_User. Not sure if that is a new label?? It is certainly not my name and I have no idea where it came from!
This is what I wrote:
sunshine_user Nov 22, 2020, 15:36 CST
Hello,
Some recent news has been brought to my attention and I was curious if you could speak to it.
It would seem to me that a company built upon the foundations of our Constitution and the fundamentals of personal liberty and the ability to defend oneself would be interested in upholding and defending these ideals. I didn't purchase from your company with the understanding that, when you discuss these liberties, that you were merely using them as branding points without serious consideration of their actual meaning, or real world application.
I would like to order from you guys again, but only in good conscience. Your branding and flavors are lovely, but who really cares? At the end of the day, if you don't actually believe and defend what your company was founded upon, then you are a mere hollow shell built upon a shoddy impersonation of the real thing. How sad.
Looking forward to a thoughtful reply.
Love it, don't be a fucking pussy now brcc, u can man up or fuck off
Why did they respond to any of these people? Do they think any of these people actually buy coffee from a "right-wing" coffee company? They would've been better off to just ignore them.
Because they stand with Antifa, half or slightly less than half joking. He liked tweets that disparaged Kyle and donated to Obama... so kind of a phony https://thedonald.win/p/11QRtbi0l7/lets-put-the-br-coffee-shit-to-b/c/
This is nothing new, either. It’s how the Leftists operate...like locusts.
They invade some space - a movie fandom, or a particular food fandom, or whatever - that they never even cares about. Then they ruin it from the inside out with their insane leftist cuckery. Then all the real fans leave and all that remains is an empty decayed husk...
People don't want to accept the reality that there a lot of people preaching to the choir in our ranks.
Came here to say this.
The Twitter spamming of copypasta denials to placate soy cucks
I get that, but how long have these cancel-culture faggots been at this on social media? Seven or eight years? Whenever that "dongle joke" at a conference got two people fired. At this point everyone should know the outrage mob is fickle and will move on to shame the next "outrage" in a week. They can safely be ignored. Actually, it would probably be a day to three tops considering the 24hr news cycle is currently packed with "OrAnGe MaN iS UnDeRMInInG oUr 'DeMoCrAcY.'"
BRCC still thinks they don't have to pick a side in the culture war
Exactly
Going against the left is scary as a legitimate business, they can spin up such bad media and rage mob that banks and online services will dump you.
Not being able to take payment because MC, Visa, Discover decide to not service you means you are out of business.
I just bought some more GOYA beans today.
Goya beans moment again
Yeah, these guys were in actual combat but now they’re scared of soyboys on Twitter?
They have to pick a side. It is a WAR! Who's side are you on BRC? Patriots or Communists?
A lot of normies don't even know there's a culture war going on, though.
People here are hyper-aware, way more than any other group of people.
True, 3% is also a significant number, normies don't like to be involved in anything uncomfortable and they'll go along with anyone in power as long as they get to be comfortable. This is why manufactured consent, twitter / MSM, is such an impactful thing.
3% = 50%
The way Goya handled the CC should provide a roadmap for every company that gets targeted. As soon as the soy boys feel resistance they back the fuck off.
Precisely
What is CC in this context?
Cancel culture
Thank you.
Why don't they have a financial relationship with Kyle? BRCC didn't jump onto the scene because they innovated in coffee quality or price, they became known 100% due to the corporate brand they were presenting. And that brand was a highly politicized pro-2nd amendment brand. You don't get to build your business on that then fall back to "we're politically neutral" when it suits you.
If their brand was cheap coffee, or custom coffee, or tasty coffee, then sure I would expect and even respect them for taking a strict non-political stance. But you don't get to build your business claiming to be patriotic then swap to politically neutral.
Do note that by relationship, they mean FINANCIAL relationship
Critical thinking fail. Your not against someone of you are not for them.
That statement definitely is throwing Kyle and the 2nd amendment under the bus, or at least not doing anything to stop the bus.
Kyle? Kyle who? You mean "the 17 year old facing charges?"
Apparently even naming him takes more balls than BRC has.
It's like he's Lord Voldemort or something to these coffee cucks.
You guys should send that link to the PB’s who posted this
They did make a public statement with a tweet as well:
https://thedonald.win/p/11QRtYKCAu/a-coffee-company-with-actual-bal/
Should be sent to Enrique Tarrio
The PB don’t have to disavow BRC but this looks like they are running cover for BRC and that’s bullshit.
Good, it means they know they may have just sunk their brand.
The Proud Boys should not be running cover for BRC.
I could give two shits about the coffee company. I’ve never tasted their coffee or purchased any of their merchandise.
I’m just saying that for Proud Boys to state that this was a lefty journalist and not the official position seems to implicate Proud Boys in the fuckery.
Oh I agree the PB should NOT be doing this shit. Just meant that BRC is nervous is good.
All of this is completely irrelevant compared to the globalist election steal.
BRCC is owned by several guys I think. Maybe not all of them agree with how this was handled?
No, the statement from BRCC is accurate and calculated. They are not playing politics on this issue. I wish they would, but they chose not to and that is honestly the wisest move for them as a company.
If you’re going to boycott them over this, fine. You’re probably the same person willing to dump Tucker despite his years of service to the cause.
Fair weather friends...
Why are you telling me this?
My posts are in regards to the Proud Boys claiming ‘BRC has not officially made a statement and were misquoted by a liberal reporter.’
The statement is on their website and was tweeted out by their official account.
You can agree with BRC’s position all day long but that just confirms that BRC has taken an official position. My point is that Proud Boys either need to stay out of it or to be honest/accurate in their reporting.
We seem to agree. Other than your claim that PB are running cover.
There is nothing to cover. BRCC’s “statement” is a non statement. They have not taken a position.
Yet for some here, not making a statement is a problem.
They did make an official statement.
You are saying that statement wasn’t much of a “statement” and that’s a fine opinion for you to have about BRC’s official statement that is on their website and that they tweeted out.
But what you ARE NOT SAYING is that BRC has NOT made any official statement, that the statement being attributed to them is just a liberal reporter misquoting them, and that we should all withhold our judgement until there is a statement.
That would just be dishonest for you to say that.
It looks like PB’s Enrique is trying to get everyone on here to stop shitting on BRC for their weak ass non-“statement” while BRC leaves the “official statement” up to appease the lefties.
The biggest issue that people seem to have with BRC is that they have been building their brand off of strong 2A defense and love of country and defending freedom but now that someone exercised that 2A right and happened to be wearing their shirt they are disavowing the cause.
For the record, the Second Amendment is an ongoing legal battle and they have built their brand in the 2A crowd. To now claim they avoid legal cases is chickenshit.
Ah yes, because as long as someone is your friend for many years it’s totally fine for them to suddenly stab you in the back
Totally fine
You're probably overreacting.
I was never a fan of Fox news, nor TV in general, so I never watched the programming. I did enjoy Tucker's videos I could find online.
But since I was never in love with the guy in the first place, I don't feel like I was betrayed. He is nothing more than a guy on TV that says things, that I either agree with or don't.
Therefore I do not really feel slighted by whatever recent gaffe he made. No matter how bad that gaffe was, he still has a long history of being aligned with our movement.
Be a fair weather friend if you want. I'd suggest it is better to forgive and keep our allies close.
I’m not sure what kind of a person calls someone a friend after they’ve made it clear they’re not your friend.
Kinda pathetic honestly
Were in the middle of the main event for all the marbles. Deploy all assets, demonstrate your loyalty now or never. Anybody hiding in the trenches or hedging because maybe they'll lose corporate sponsorships is officially blacklisted when we emerge from the fight. 2A is the solution to the problem of an oppressive or neglectful governance. Ignore the reasons we need 2A (like the violence allowed to happen in Kenosha) and black rifle is just a coffee company trading off a veteran status, nothing more. Let the government have it's way and they'll Black Fork Coffee like in the UK.
You’re exaggerating. The company didn’t say they are anti 2A. They just clarified that they are not sponsoring Kyle.
The evidence of the tweets that he owner liked are more damning. Those are a concern.
In the end, it’s a coffee company, not an advocacy group. Temper your expectations accordingly.
Well yeah they are making that abundantly clear and I have no expectations of them. But it's not hard to see what's happened here, cuckery is afoot.
You’re probably conflating choices we make as consumers with choices companies make as marketers.
I agree that it is disappointing the company didn’t stick up for Kyle. But it is also to be expected, because they’re a coffee company, not an activist group.
A lot of people seem to be struggling with that last part, myself included, just less so than the people losing their minds over it and calling it some kind of debacle.
Companies should remain neutral. These people make coffee, not political statements. It is that simple.
If you want a coffee company that speaks your politics, start it. I’d buy your stuff if it was pro Trump.
I also bought some BRCC coffee and my wife didn’t like it. They have more varieties to try but I probably won’t be buying because I don’t like their lack of support for Kyle.
Having said, it if were my company, I’d also remain neutral.
Alienation of any consumer base is simply retarded. Just make a good product and leave the politics to the politicians.
In most cases I'd agree, but this is a company that made their brand and heavily marketed based on political and patriotic statements and views, supporting the Constitution and the Second Amendment in particular. They weren't really neutral to begin with, and attempting to play that way now really doesn't sit well with most people who supported their company, myself included.
Right, who cares what the media says. Lefties aren't buying their coffee. We are.
I work in crisis communications at a PR firm. When a scandal happens or when a company is pulled into controversy, public statements must be approved by executives before the statement is released. The PR firm writes the statement and then the company must approve or deny it before it gets released to the media. BRCC approved that statement. It wasn’t some rogue journalist or PR person.
They gave zero pushback to the people calling Kyle a murderer. That's enough for me to show they threw him under the bush. Start flushing, Enrique.
The same people calling Kyle a murderer are the same people who call soldiers baby killers when they come home.
They don't legally contribute to the fight to preserve 2A, that's enough to blacklist them .
I don't agree with this. Only the marxists burn down the houses of everyone that doesn't fly the flag. If they are actively against us then go after them, but just because they aren't actively supporting every cause you have isn't going to get me to blacklist them.
they can't say and be pro 2A and then not actually support anything 2A. You see the issue right?
I'm pro 2A but I don't send nearly as much money to pro 2A groups as many people. So I must not actually be pro 2A because I don't clear the artificial barrier to entry.
I'm fine with them saying they are pro 2A, as long as they aren't actually donating to groups against it.
Ah. Now, put up or shut up. Here's the link to blackrifle ceo donating to McCain, Obama, and Tulsi
https://twitter.com/Michael15055662/status/1330672048717238273?s=19
yeah, I can't defend that.
Cheers - I love this community 😊
UNBELIEVABLE! Holy shit I am disgusted with these people. Absolutely two-faced.
The false purity tests imposed by some are comical.
It's not about "actively supporting every cause".
It's about supporting the cause that your company is literally named after.
I agree. They remained neutral in this case, which is disappointing, but understandable from a business perspective. A bad PR move given that their primary customers are conservative and tend to be in support of Kyle.
This is one of these things which raises suspicion and distrust towards the company, but blacklisting them is an extreme reaction. I think the people are just on edge here. Understandable, because things take time.
I think if you look for any flaws in people or groups, you will find them, especially if you raise the standards to a point where any flaws are inacceptable. This is a purity spiral, and it is a degenerative, self-destructive force to a movement, as it becomes more and more radical over a short period of time. As it progresses, people who are more moderate are ejected.
To some degree that's good, but to a larger degree, it's bad.
Lets not overlook their ceo, evan, directly liking two replies that slam Kyle. One from a TDS "customer" that says Kyle is a wannabe douchebag.
https://twitter.com/TweetBrettMac/status/1330659788326395905?s=19
Is this shilling or something? You guys are flipping out over basically nothing. They didn't condemn kyle, they didn't start preaching social justice, nothing like that. All they did was say they weren't affiliated with someone wearing their company logo. Who cares? Probably not a good idea to become leftists who boycott anyone who doesn't 100% fully adhere to their views.
Big difference between a leftist boycott and conservative’s refusal to do business with a company that has revealed themselves to be disingenuous and unprincipled...
The statement isn't that bad in my opinion. I'm seeing some comments that they donate to democrats though, and if that's the case, I'd never buy their products. Depending on when it was. I was personally an Obama supporter before though, so I can't judge someone for that. Here in Canada, I only saw the left wing perspective and didn't follow politics. Soon as I started I realized how corrupt everything was. That was thanks to this glorious place. Anyway, the point is that donating to Obama/democrats isn't really evidence of much, as long as it wasn't done recently.
I'm one person, not "guys".
That's great, I'm real happy for you, but this is a fucking messageboard, not your private inbox. So what's your point?
Their statement was clear and anyone who is still giving them the benefit of doubt are retards. They will walk it back so they can continue to make money by pandering to you, you bunch of idiots. They showed what side they were on, fuck em.
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Ok, but is the left wing media running their twitter account? The one that's continually spamming replies that they don't financially support Kyle, but crucially, doesn't make any statement that they support his right to self-defense?
Exactly. The tweet's right here, retweeted with comment by a patriotic, freedom loving coffee company: https://thedonald.win/p/11QRtYKCAu/a-coffee-company-with-actual-bal/
Literally dozens of times they genuflected. Somebody may want to archive it before it's too late
https://www.twitter.com/blckriflecoffee/with_replies
That's a good question: Who IS running their twitter account? Is it someone at BRCC, or someone hired from a PR firm?
Sure looks like PR tweets to me.
Sounds like they may want to take their account back, then.
BRC cancelled its sponsorship of a podcast over a pic of Kyle in a BRC shirt and immediately distanced themselves.
Any official statement will be CYA bullshit aimed at restoring their tacticool image as they realize the leftists initially pressuring them would never drink their coffee.
Spez: This claim of BRC cuckoldry (cancelling a sponsorship) is under dispute. It is not disputed that BRC distanced from Kyle really quickly and only supports an unused version of 2A.
Exactly. Their ACTIONS say everything.
It looks like the whole thing started when Sleeping Giants, a group who specializes in threatening the sponsors of conservative shows, made a stink about it: https://twitter.com/slpng_giants/status/1330057386904739841
They were the ones who were threatening the sponsors of Breitbart, Tucker, Hannity, and Ingraham earlier this year.
its the same thing where we are polite and wait for answers, meanwhile anyone that is even publicly centrist will be destroyed. Merely saying "I'll wait for all the details" is considered Fascism by these folks. These companies will throw us under the bus anyways. because 'we're patient and will understand'. Fuck that.
Elijah Shaffers podcast, specifically, Slightly Offensive.
Shaffer has done a great job reporting on the riots and leftist violence over the last year. Even got assaulted at some point and just kept going.
Seems like a good guy
That is CNN level fake news, Elijah called bullshit.
https://twitter.com/elijahschaffer/status/1330618413631365120?s=21
Time to boycott Blaze and slightly offensive then. That dude is a shrill voiced, boring, and pontificating windbag faggot anyway
I do not give a fuck what you think bro. Blaze is based, go on with your purity spiral You fucking liberal.
Yep. Here's the tweet:
https://thedonald.win/p/11QRtYKCAu/a-coffee-company-with-actual-bal/
If only they had a Twitter account, or website, or Facebook. Some way to just explain it themselves. If only.
Hehe. And they did: https://thedonald.win/p/11QRtYKCAu/a-coffee-company-with-actual-bal/
Thanks, Pede. I was being sarcastic and am aware of that. I really should use the sarc tag considering it’s 2020, but I think I’m too clever for that.
Me too. The tag gets forgotten. Understood
Too busy making goofy videos of themselves blowing stuff up
Because coffee
"We do not support legal advocacy efforts. We do not sponsor nor do we have a relationship with the 17-year-old facing charges in Kenosha, WI."
Maybe it's fucking time you did!
Take a fucking stand BRC
It appears that they have, which is why I canceled my subscription.
They take a stand right up until the rubber meets the road, then they want to make sure people understand theyre distancing themselves. Sad man. They only seem to be pro 2a when it means shooting explosives and trying to look patriotic. You can bet if the rapid leftist nazis started throwing us in the gulags brcc would come put with a statement along the lines of "we have no relationship with those jews youre throwing in the furnaces. We are distancing ourselves from them"
Does Black Rifle Coffee support Black Lives Matters?
Let's check...
That's what happens when you hire BLM to do your website upkeep.
Then MTFU and publicly make a donation to his defense.
A PR firm wrote a statement for him to put on their website with his name on it.
It's still a rock (or something) stupid statement that never shouldn'tve been made, but that statement reaks of hired PR firm.
I'd put money down they paid someone to be that retarded, then tried to up the ante by putting Evan's name on it.
Many users were also quick to throw Bannon under the bus once he started being sued. :/
I still don't like the guy. All thoughout his year's he's been caught doing shady shit. I think what he's doing now is good. Still doesn't mean I like the guy.
Bannon is grifting right now while the grifting is still good. He'll show his true colors soon. People here who aren't at least skeptical of him will realize.
He's done too much shady shit in the past to be trusted now.
RIGHT! Dude took a salary. should have been upfront about it and no one would have minded. I hate these quick judgement people
Bannon is an egotistical moron
He totally screwed the Biden laptop situation with his selfish clickbait antics
Ok Steve
Anything less than a “Wake up with some Kyle in your cup...” is not acceptable.
The official statement on their website seemed pretty clear.
I didn't like the tone of BRC's statement regarding Kyle. My current opinion on the matter is based solely off of that. Disappointed.
Flush that shit
Who gives a shit about coffee. Ive been informing a lot of ppl about td.win lately and I would really like them to see the evidence of fraud over coffee.
Think of it this way; the BRCC situation is a form of fraud.
They have made millions by pretending to support a certain set of values, and now their customers are finding out it was a sham
Plenty of it. But like with all large sites you have moments like this.
Buy Stocking Mill coffee and flush this shit down.
How about, come out and say it... Kyle Did Nothing Wrong.
Until then, you're lying about your views, or you're on the wrong side of history. Neither of which are great optics.
Love the PB, but they need to sit out of this.
The ceo did write a statement and went out of his way to be a dick . Fuck em
"Were sorry. Please continue buying our shit tasting, expensive coffee. We paid The Proud Boys to issue a statement blaming liberals and the msm, so we cool now" - BRC probably
https://twitter.com/CassandraRules/status/1330658747006509063?s=19
this is their CEO on Twitter
Fuck these arrogant bitches, who take money from conservatives and get rich, and then sell out the very 2nd amendment they supposedly espouse. They need to change their fucking name. How about "scared yuppy" coffee, that would suit them better.
What do you expect from former CIA contractors
Any source on this?
It’s on their website
Black rifle coffee company in the “about” section or whatever. Just read their bios
Evan Hafer the CEO has donated to Obama and ActBlue (formerly ShareBlue).
He also really liked John McCain
So that should tell you what you need to know.
Damn. Thanks, will check it out
I bought their product strictly for their stance on 2A. Wasn’t impressed anyways but thought “hey at least they are a cool company”. Well if they fold to pressure to people that would never actually buy their product they can go in the category of not worth it. Hope they fade to obscurity
So I read their official press release... fuck Black Rifle Coffee.
We should go back to gathering evidence of voter fraud and better understanding how the violent Marxist left intends to overthrow or subvert our constitutional republic. We don't have time to worry about millionaires who sell coffee.
This is why the Right lost the culture war. We'll wait for the already demolished reputation of the Kenosha Kid's reputation in the mainstream to be cleared, gone through the proper channels, etc. But if the Left wants to assassinate anyone's reputation they'll have them fired within an hour. And we'll wait days and weeks, happily enjoying a: "A Blue ribbon committee headed by Graham is being formed to draft a letter to ask the company in question to please be nicer to the Right."
Companies don't have to publicly uphold good values. They know we'll be moderate and 'understand' why we need to be taken out back and shot. Wouldn't want to ruffle CNN's feathers.
It’s like the French knights charging at Agincourt.
Follow all the rules and protocols of chivalry, etc.
Meanwhile the fuckin English are like fuck chivalry have some wooden stakes for your horses and some bodkin arrows
The only i can say on this matter is the fact that they have not supported Kyle as of yet means that they are worried about their name brand and or sales.
But i would doubt very much so that there are even any liberal lefties who are drinking their coffee anyways, so I say BFCC you should support Kyle and make it known becuase it seems like only patriots were buying your coffee to begin with and by not supporting him youll see a drop in revenue.
And i was thinking about buying your coffee but now I have to wait and see if your cucked or not. And same goes with tens of thousands of Americans.
They completely shit the bed with this. I already cancelled my subscription, and I bought a lot of coffee from them over the years.
FUCK PBS ...
Oh wait. PBs is not PBS. NEVER MIND CARRY ON!
"We do not aupport legal advocacy efforts". That statement by their ceo says it all. Fuck you brcc!
Lol why would you need days to release a statement if you didnt say it? Way to burn down your brand dumbshits
Honestly it’s hilarious to imagine these morons on panicked conference calls trying to stem the bleeding
MATT WORST
BRCC had a golden opportunity to make a “Free Kyle” blend and a portion of the proceeds goes to Kyle’s defense fund. Win/Win.win. Instead, all of us are gladly sleeping on badass Patriot pillows because Mike Lindell didn’t need to take a moment to figure out who’s side he’s on. I have no sympathy for these guys.
But if they did that, then all the leftist cucks who don’t buy their coffee...wouldn’t buy their coffee?
That might’ve been their thinking, that they’d be narrowing their customer base. But do you think leftist cucks buy their coffee from BRCC, or get their soy latte at their local hipster joint? Plus you can shoot up in a starbucks bathroom, take a nap there and walk out with a sandwich. And they can’t stop you because it’s RACISSSSSSS!!!!!
Exactly my point
They chose a lose lose over a win win
Fuck these faggots. Go woke, go broke. They're an 80 million dollar company BTW, they obviously don't give a shit about the 2nd amendment, they are full retard cucked.
Just one instance of knee jerk caving to the rage mob is going to destroy this company. Always remember who your base customer is!
I can't support anyone bending the knee to communists, especially a company that talked the talk that these cucks did. They really shit the bed.
I read this as, 'I am with PBS on this...'
I was like, 'What? Is PBS being honest for once?'
Lol.
If Fox13 lied, then I will take back everything bad I said about their so called "response."
That is how normal people are. I am working with the information I have and will gladly change my opinion once new facts come to light.
The media is public enemy #1 so it wouldnt be a surprise if they were outright lying. We shall see!
HOWEVER, their OFFICIAL WEBSITE has a crappy response regarding Kyle, sooooo Im not totally convinced they were totally "misrepresented." Maybe they changed their mind, due to the financial loss.
Again, not all vets, LEO or active duty are actual patriots. Wolves in sheep’s clothing.
That’s all I’m going to say about that.
This is just a couple of Jewish entrepreneurs at BRCC trying to keep their base and the new clients they're pandering to.
BRCoffee: chillax. Coffee is for adults. The 2nd amendment is for everyone.
Seems reasonable, so long as the cucks understand that boycott is and will continue to be a viable tactic.
BRC is too limp dicked to take a side.
They bent the knee to communists and distanced themselves from patriots. They have taken a side.
I agree that statements are taken out of context and misquoted and outright lied about by the fake news media all the time. The quote is a non-issue to me.
This all comes down to the question of: did they cancel or intend to cancel sponsorship? Actions speak louder than words. If they did, that's cancel culture and if you support cancel culture then you aren't even supporting the 1st Amendment let alone the 2nd.
On the other hand, if that report was a lie, then BRCC needs to sue that reporter/news outlet for libel because they for damn sure knew how that lie would be taken by BRCC's customer base and that absolutely damaged their brand.
With all this outrage youd think wed have coordinated efforts of our own outrage on companies that pander to Leftists.
Is it it time to roll in the mud with the pigs? Or is it time to be the pig handler and take control?
We know what we must do. We need to just do it.
Get mad. Get very mad. Remember to hate again. It’ll set you free.
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GUYS WE JUST DONT WANA LOOK BAD IF KYLE ENDS UP IN SUPER JAIL THATS ALLLLLL........ sounds like hedging your bets with commies if you ask me.
Exact copy/paste from their website.
We do not support legal advocacy efforts. We do not sponsor nor do we have a relationship with the 17-year-old facing charges in Kenosha, WI.
We believe in the integrity of the legal justice system, and support law enforcement officials.
Their CEO donated to Obama and Tulsi. Fuck them and their overpriced coffee.
https://mobile.twitter.com/BlueThunder2021/status/1330624970733576194
All you doomers need to focus on the prize and not this horse shit.
Finally someone willing to stand up for something