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Freshcope 10 points ago +10 / -0

I was thinking a little tea party....that kinda snowballs from there.

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AKviking14 2 points ago +2 / -0

Need to water that tree after all.

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libman [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Need to water that tree after all.

It can be watered through determined disobedience. Violence may not be necessary. Read Atlas Shrugged.

The power of government comes from the faith of those who believe in it. Without that faith, government is just a horribly inefficient gang of thugs that can't compete on the free market and is 27 trillion in debt.

Government must maintain the illusion of its benevolence. If tens of millions rise up, the faith of the remainder also becomes threatened - it becomes rational for it to free the dissident slaves, lest it lose everything...

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DemsHaveNoHomeHere 5 points ago +5 / -0

🤣

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libman [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

But he is talking about 1776 not extreme couponing.

Correct. But with Gandhi tactics instead of rifles.

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BeefChucker 4 points ago +4 / -0

Our money isn’t real. It’s a device that banks control. They can give infusions to anyone because it is monopoly money. An economic strike would be useless

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libman [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

The value of goods and services being taxed is real. That is what backs the faith in government paper. That is what we'll be denying the government a share of.

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Czshad2 3 points ago +3 / -0

In this year the only thing I have consumed is firearms, ammo and food. Sports gone! Entertainment gone! For real everyone stop purchasing crap.

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libman [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

My $60k to 401k plan is focused on 1099 contracting obviously you didn’t read the link.

If George Washington had a pension from King George, do you think that would have stopped him?

Look, I’m all for minimizing tax burden

Was the first American Revolution just about "minimizing tax burden"

but if you want to LARP go ahead and LARP.

Was George Washington just LARPing?

I don’t think this is a Militia type war we are fighting and I think economics is the best way to win

That's exactly what I am advocating.

Like when Gandhi made the British Empire unpopular and too costly to enforce.

The American consumer is the economic engine of the world

Not just the consumer, but the inventor, the entrepreneur, the top 1% of real-world capability.

if we turn off the spigot and essentially blockade the left then we win.

Exactly. Trump was USA's last chance to prevent this.

Everyone needs to study Atlas Shrugged. If Trump is stopped, it WILL come true.

The only question will be: WHO IS JOHN GALT?

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libman [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

It's not about "doing more", it's about the most effective tactic of resistance.

If the illegitimate Beijing Biden admin takes over, their rule will depend on keeping the sheep convinced they are the good guys. Waving guns against the government would only give them the excuse to "Waco" you with the full multi-trillion-dollar force of the U.S. armed forces. But crushing even a handful of non-violent resisters will make them look bad to the entire world.

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jgardner 3 points ago +3 / -0

I wonder if we can write off the cost of ammo and material we bring when the militia is mustered. Or will they just pay us enough to cover the costs of gear?

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1dm84 20 points ago +21 / -1

How does one stop paying taxes, they steal them right out of my paycheck.

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Drgreygoose02 19 points ago +20 / -1

Claim exempt, you can do it at anytime.

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Trump_in_2020_Pedes -1 points ago +4 / -5

This is horrible advice. Now, they'll still owe the same amount of taxes on April 15th, but they won't have withheld anything all year. So stupid there aren't words.

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Drgreygoose02 5 points ago +6 / -1

So don't pay it, that's the point. You only have to file, you don't have to pay. Don't do fraud, but you don't have to pay, they will try to negotiate for years, tell them you are working on it, there is nothing they can do. This is W2 not employee business tax, personal only.

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Trump_in_2020_Pedes 0 points ago +1 / -1

...says the guy with no assets. They can slap a Federal Tax LIen on your house. So stupid there are no words.

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libman [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

Talk about missing the point.

This is the Gandhieque non-violent alternative to an armed uprising. It still requires commitment and balls, but would be more difficult for them to vilify and crush.

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800080 1 point ago +1 / -0

They can save it and pay it. If the numbers cross thresholds, they can make quarterlies. A total exemption is more radical than just changing your withholding, but unless you lack the ability to save-and-pay, it's an option.

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Proud_American 10 points ago +10 / -0

Ask to fill out a new w4 with your employer. Increase the dependents from one to 3. You may break even, but at least it’s better than giving them a loan with your money all year and will make your paycheck bigger.

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DemsHaveNoHomeHere 1 point ago +1 / -0

Aren't we currently in a tax holiday, with GEOTUS promising to exempt individuals making <$100k after re-election?

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Proud_American 2 points ago +2 / -0

Not exactly. It will have to be paid back as it currently stands. Any deferment could possibly be forgiven if he’s elected. Not a guarantee.

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cornfedandconfused 5 points ago +5 / -0

ALL THE ALLOWANCES!!!!!!!!!

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DemsHaveNoHomeHere 1 point ago +1 / -0

🏆

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Trump_in_2020_Pedes 1 point ago +1 / -0

Don't listen to any of the idiots telling you that you don't have to pay taxes. They have no idea what they're talking about. The IRS will seize your assets if you don't pay taxes. They'll take your house, your car, anything they want. These people are total idiots. Please ignore them.

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vudka 18 points ago +18 / -0

Let’s normalise tax evasion

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libman [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

Moral and open mass tax resistance is different from "evasion".

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Bruno 15 points ago +15 / -0

Taxation is theft, pure and simple.

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libman [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Correct. I agree with the AnCap ideal / NAP. But a theft-free / violence-free civilization has never yet been achieved. The best that can be done (at least in a nation with the average IQ of 98) is a minarchist government that forces everyone to pay for the common defense of Life, Liberty, and Property.

And local taxes can be justified on the basis of voluntary association - people can vote with their feet, and most won't mind living in neighborhoods with bundled roads, ambulance service, etc.

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giggitybooped 9 points ago +9 / -0

How do you force your check to not take SS, Medicare, state, and other federal taxes from your check? Please tell.

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libman [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

I guess this only applies to people who are able to do this...

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cornfedandconfused 4 points ago +5 / -1

adjust your allowances. You wouldn't stop all of them but you can reduce them greatly. This is also incredibly stupid. It would have to be done on a massive scale to have any impact at all. You would just be fucking yourself.

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Proud_American 10 points ago +10 / -0

Or standing up for yourself when your taxation isn’t being represented.

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800080 2 points ago +2 / -0

Put the money in your bank account and don't touch it. You can pay your taxes at the other end of the year, instead of giving an interest free loan to the government if your money.

By this doesn't matter if we Stop the Steal

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libman [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Better yet, put it into gold or digital currency - something the government cannot just steal.

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Jemmy 5 points ago +5 / -0

We should abolish the IRS anyway.

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libman [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

If they get rid of Trump, all hope of reform is gone. The Demonrats will get rid of the electoral college, add PR & DC statehood, make cheat-by-mail the norm, import 50 million low-IQ immigrants, increase MSM brainwashing even further, etc...

First we need leverage. Then, secession - to create a real America, without the communists; and a minimal government restrained by the new Constitution, far more explicitly than before...

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libman [S] 5 points ago +5 / -0

The point is a massive tax strike, not quietly saving some $.

It's a serious threat to the system, because the entire monetary system is based in debt, that is blind faith in your future enslavement. If slavery becomes untenable, government paper becomes worthless.

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libman [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Coordinate online. Create local meetup groups. Ratify a manifesto. Have as many people as possible send it to the IRS instead of a tax return on April 15.

I'm not the right person to lead this. But this is what I think should happen if Beijing Biden takes the presidency.

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Graey 3 points ago +3 / -0

the W2 form changes that. You select how much is auto.

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Idgaf56 2 points ago +2 / -0

My last paycheck will be Dec 31. I will quit my job and not give them .01 next year. ZFG.

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jgardner 2 points ago +2 / -0

No one will be talking about taxes when SHTF.

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libman [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

If a government exists, it needs to pay for things. Every leftist expects a check at least once a month. Even jackbooted thugs don't work for free.

If the government needs to pay for things, it must maintain faith in the value of its paper (since it produces nothing, its assets can't be readily liquidated, and it has massive debt).

The value of the toilet paper the government calls money is based on faith in its ability to tax the producers (and their children, and their children's children) without more resistance than it can handle.

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Dallasguy 1 point ago +2 / -1

I'll be long dead before fucking tax season. 😆

But those of you that utterly fail to have my back be sure not to pay your taxes. That'll show em.

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libman [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

... be sure not to pay your taxes. That'll show em.

It will when government checks start bouncing.

It's a faith-based system. The government is $27 trillion in debt, based on faith in future taxation. If millions of people join a Federal tax protest, that bubble can pop.

(Most will still want to pay local taxes, which pay for things people actually want, and maybe a special fund for defending the border.)

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Dallasguy 1 point ago +2 / -1

You go ahead and let them steal a presidential election without fighting back and expect the IRS not to take all your assets. I won't be alive to see it, but I'm sure it will be hilarious.

May your chains set lightly upon you.

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libman [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Who said anything about "letting them steal"?!?

I am fighting it, and this is a part of it - letting them know we will not back down no matter what!

Trump has perpetuated faith in the United States; while Biden will be its death.

The government has nothing except debt, backed by faith that millions of people will pay their taxes without too much fuss.

The IRS is just another incompetent government agency. Do you think they have the power to put tens of millions of people in jail? That costs money. Do you think IRS agents will work for free?

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2a4life 1 point ago +1 / -0

To stop paying taxes you have to stop working... which kills 2 birds with one stone. hopefully the truckers stop rolling later this month and show these ass clowns the strength of the American worker

They need us more than we need them

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libman [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

You can work as a consultant without automatic deductions (I ain't no lawyer).

Or work online for Bitcoin. Or local barter. 😉

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Michonne21 1 point ago +1 / -0

Government won’t be in debt for long.

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jomten 1 point ago +1 / -0

Every time a white criminal gets shot resisting arrest, we go and burn down leftist buildings.

Twitter hq, facebook hq, dem offices, sex offender registry lookup

I mean its only fair

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ifififififokiedokie -1 points ago +4 / -5

DOOMFAG

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libman [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's about being prepared to fight back with whatever tactic is the most effective.

And I think it's tech-savvy non-violent Gandhi tactics like tax resistance that are ideal. Waving guns against the government would only give them the excuse to crush you, and they'll tell the sheep you were Hitler. But if millions of people join the tax strike, they will be forced to negotiate.

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Dallasguy 1 point ago +2 / -1

You just simply don't possess the capacity to wrap your mind around what's at stake.

How about a letter-writing campaign? Maybe you could organize a bake sale with meme cakes to raise money for the Republican party so they can prepare for the 2022 election. Don't forget your mask.

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libman [S] 0 points ago +1 / -1

If Beijing Biden takes power, the choices will be:

  1. Kiss his ring.

  2. Armed uprising. (And then the trillion-dollar might of the government war machine will microwave the meat offa your bones from 10,000 feet; and the MSM will tell everyone you were bin Laden).

  3. What I am proposing.

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ifififififokiedokie 0 points ago +1 / -1

DOOMFAF!