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he was also caught on the lolita express thats why he constantly sides with the democrats...they are holding that info and him hostage...he is a turncoat now
I've been thinking. Would it be better if people who have information that lead to greater criminaIities are let off the hook? Lots of people with bIackmaiI, it looks. And lots of people who'd turn coat if they could get out of it. But the idea makes mesick.
Different person - His adopted children from Ireland is the issue apparently - bad paperwork or something, so he more or less kidnapped children from Ireland to be his in the US.
This is long debunked. John Roberts wasn't on the lolita express, there was another man named John Roberts who worked for a college and flew on it's private jet by a pilot that also sometimes flew for Epstein. Here's the sauce: https://thedonald.win/p/HXk4T0ae/scotus-justice-john-roberts-wasn/
Here's what HASN"T been deboonked: 'The Hammer' was weaponized by Obumer/Commie Brennan and used against whole US. Justice John Roberts in particular was targeted.
It's also long been rumored that adoption process for his kids was (and possibly still is) a soft spot.
Actually, Roberts was the one who assigned all the conservative justices to the circuit courts in all the key states we need... which really surprised me.
Couple of theories about this. It could be the ultimate fence sitting move of the decade.
Move these pro-Trump or Trump-appointed justices into these districts, and stay the hell away from them. This move does a number of things:
Forces the Trump appointees into a position to make a decision about the president who appointed them.
Removes/insulates liberal judges (mostly) from the situation.
The first move is a "gauntlet of fire" kind of move. Prove to the country if you're unbiased and going by the law or if your rulings will come from any political biases. It's fence-sitting because it puts them in the hot seat for any cases coming up through the courts for those districts. And if Biden takes over in January, the judges could be in the hot seat again for how they acted during the election.
Taking the liberal justices generally out of anything important to the election insulates them from fallout if this thing gets crazy. He probably wants them to be free and clear of any potential stains that this election may cause. He may also recognize that Trump or any Republican would never get a fair shake or even be heard by those justices, so it has its benefits. And we can't say that an appeal landing on the desk of Clarence Thomas and being denied was motivated by political bias.
It's a very complicated situation, but for those reasons and more, I feel like it's just more fence sitting. Which I guess is better than EVERY institution automatically lined up against us at every turn, so I'll take it.
This is the Trump strategy. It has probably been the strategy since COVID happened. He knew the Dems would try and abuse their power, as mail-in ballots are considerably easier to defraud. Get everything in place, tell every American to vote in person because mail-in voting isn't secure, then absolutely invalidate EVERY LAST MAIL IN BALLOT and say "I told you so!"
Why are the Dems against the Constitution so much? It's going to bite them in the ass hard, here.
Only downside is, Left/Media will claim "muh disenfranchised voters".
And voters will be being disenfranchised. In a perfectly legal way.
However, this might be an "out" and a "deal".
As in, Trump agrees, no one goes to prison. Instead this is the perpetrators "out" the apparently legal avenue how we win. And I (Trump) get to pass my entire 2nd term agenda.
You can scream and shout all you want. You can special council. And investigate. But when it comes to congress, it gets passed (Like the USMCA).
This is treasonous behavior and must be met with trial and hangings. These people cannot be allowed to infect our system any longer. We can only exist as a country with the rule of law enforced.
Military courts do not have jurisdiction. And even if they did, recusal would be expected en masse, as the plaintiff would be the military's commander-in-chief and the defendants would be elected representative of the legislature. Even if it wasn't, it would look like such a kangaroo court the international community would find an excuse to not recognize the outcome if in DJT's favor.
The point of not allowing mass mail in ballots is that it is insecure and prone to problems. In other words, mail in voting causes legitimate voters to be disenfranchised. The election was run so poorly that no matter what judges do there will be massive disenfranchisement. The remedy for this is to have the representatives vote in the electors. Because without a valid election, that is the closest you can get to the will of the people.
Obama outlined it in his farewell address. He said people give the power to the constitution, which is wrong. He basically said, get rid of the desire, and it goes away. He wanted to get rid of that document in the worse possible way.
Will be from now on. Problem now is some may be LEGAL BALLOTS. They want to count all legal ballots. State blew up election, separated signatures, kept out observers, mixed naked ballots. Can remove counterfeit one-mark ballots to determine President but rest are do-over - - unless Amazon server in Germany has original un-massaged tallies and can be unwound -
i believe the demoncrats were well aware their attempted election fraud/theft would not stand up in the Supreme Court; they also likely knew President Trump was unbeatable for reeeeeeelection, so their TDS compelled them to take a giant heaping donkey/rino dump on this election, just to spite and taint DJT45's remaining 4 yrs in office, imho.
But then at polls (CA) they made us use felt-tip pens which reject at machines - hand inspected. Biden votes get counted. Trump votes stay rejected, removed from recounts too. This and every machine with software --> redo everywhere.
You haven't seen it? Someone's coming to get you out here to see it, hold on. Kevin, get - go get the car warmed up. We're going - no, we need to get a crowd. There are shitty Democrat pants hanging from lamp posts, it's a bonanza. They're shitting all over.
Digging further, it appears SCOTUS generally only hears the state supreme court cases that somehow involve the US Constitution or federal law, so yeah you may be right about this particular case not going to SCOTUS
they didn’t follow the process to make it legal why wouldn’t it’s be appealed to the sc if state shoots it down. It’s a perfectly legitimate argument to drop all mail in votes
Yes, it could and probably will go to SCOTUS. The issue is twofold. Who has the right to make and change the laws governing Presidential elections, and the severability of the sections of the law. The first is clearly a Constitutional issue, as it clearly states that ONLY the state legislature can make or change election law. But in PA the Gov, SOS and court made changes. The VBM law, however, was quite clear that ANY changes made to ANY part of the law nullified the whole law. By changing the law, which was written to say that only those votes received by 8pm Tuesday 11/3 could be counted, to allowing ballots mailed by the 3rd and received days later, the law became null and void, and literally every single mail-in ballot rendered invalid.
You're not wrong, but you're commenting on a different case. This case argues that act 77 passed last year needed to be a constitutional amendment. The fuckery pulled by the SOS is separate.
PA all moot with new case. Requirement for absentee eligibility in state constitution. Yes Legislature passed 77 to change absentee to no reason but they did not amend constitution so yes ALL mass mail ballots (including counterfeits) excluded. Trump won by 800K votes. Those that followed all old rules should get counted. 2016 the number of these was a couple of thousand. If there are any real absentees, they may not get counted, yes but they know who they are and they can do replacement ballots. Yes that is a good remedy.
But do they still have vote flipping machines working on in-person ballots?
I think the case is that the state didn't follow the federal Constitution because they didn't respect the state legislature being in charge of deciding how to do the state elections.
no they violated their own constitution with change by legislature. change invalid.
if we can understand it b&w like this, if the court doesn't enjoin cert they should be terminated.
No, there are provisions in the PA constitution that lists groups of people the state must offer absentee ballots to. The constitution instructs the PA legislature to pass laws to allow this. The case argues that act 77, that allows no excuse absentee ballots violates that provision of the constitution, thus those extra ballots are invalid. It's a great case and based on sound theory, but it's not a violation of the federal constitution.
Right. Hard to argue when constitution says one thing and you do another. But "liberal judges" are illiterate when reading docs that have "Con...." at top.
Every time I see someone questioning this stuff, I keep wondering if they've ever worked in an office, or seen a mafia movie before. Or played cards. Or questioned a thief. Or fumigated a house. Watched an episode of Mannix. "Why don't/didn't they just ______" is the single most annoying thing I read on a daily basis.
You have to let things happen to make other things happen. When you're politicking with traitors and slimeballs, spoons have to get bent. So few people can appreciate that. It's so much armchair football that I'm getting an edge I don't like.
They weren't aware that the Secretary of State/Biden's lawyers/whoever else snuck in behind their backs and somehow managed to change the law before the election. Same with the other states like GA, MI and WI
as far as i know they never actually changed the "Law" which is the main reason it will be thrown out. That is why Alito told them to separate the ballots which they ignored...
The law was never actually changed. The PA supreme court was in on it also ruling in a way that was not actually legal. I understand that the lawsuit was filed yesterday so it's news but I thought there already was one for this or was it something similar?
The other case that the PA Supreme Court ruled and made changes was that mail in ballots could be received up to 3 days after the deadline, 8 pm on Nov. 3, and still be counted despite what legislation said.
Something to think about: Trump screamed off the rooftops for his followers to vote in-person and not by mail. Really activates the ol' almonds, doesn't it?
Actually he said mail it in, then go and verify in person. He specifically said they were going to tamper with it. Tik tok was filled with videos of people throwing away ballots for Trump.
Either way, the 10 or so counties that stopped counting at midnight is also the counties with mail ballot return ratios well in excess of demographically and politically similar areas, i.e. in most of the nation you've got 50-60% ballot return rate, and in the same 10 that shut down and sent poll watchers home, you've got 85-98% return rate, and some precincts claiming vote totals in excess of their registered voter total.
The overlap between their statistical irregularities and their unprecedented and coordinated conduct on election night, is enough evidence of a preplanned method to rig the election in those precincts. To get turnout/return rates to approach 100% is insurmountably difficult. To go from 65% to 70% would have required millions invested in campaigns, door to door ops, return boxes and parking lot chasers.
They passed changes allowing no excuse abseetee ballot requests but they only did that as the first step to changing it in the PA constitution, problem is, they never got around to that second part of changing the PA constitution so the entire thing is invalid.
We're probably going to see a split outcome in that regard. It's likely the SCOTUS verdict will strike down the law, but not all of the ballots. It's hard for a court to dump ballots at that scale. We might see a re-vote, but the precedent there is complex.
It's incredibly unlikely we see a re-vote since this is a PA constitutional issue not a US constitutional issue. SCOTUS and federal courts have no jurisdiction.
I believe you. There's precedent for re-votes due to fraud, but I don't think that's even been the case for a presidential election (and also it was in other States).
PA democrats ramrodded expansion of absentee ballots "ACT 77", and even though it was properly amended, passed by House and Senate, then signed into law by Gov. Wolf, - It did not meet PA's constitutional process because it wasn't passed in both houses of assembly in two consecutive sessions, and then added to the ballot to be voted on in PA's general election.
PA's new amendment struck out all the enumerated grounds of absentee voting, and added, "their could be no law pursuant to require citizens to vote in person"...at all. They did not follow through PA's entire constitutional amendment process and rushed the law, So all absentee votes relying on the State's new violations of PA's constitution can be thrown out.
PA of course will not recognize this as the judges have already been stating with prejudice. So we'll see how far the complaint goes.
Simplest way to put it: you can't make a law that that changes an amendment unless that law is itself an amendment.
For the United States, the Constitution says that the only way to amend the Constitution is if 2/3 of both House and Senate agree and then 2/3 of all States also agree. You can't make an amendment just by getting a slim majority for one election cycle. You need overwhelming majority agreement.
State legislatures also have similar models that raises the bar for an amendment. For Pennsylvania, they would have had to pass the new amendment two sessions in a row and then have the voters also approve it at the next election.
If it was VOTED on twice but only PASSED once, that gives a lot more credence to the act being illegal (and takes wiggle room away from the justices). If it was only voted on once for some COVID related reason, etc, an activist justice is going to make a "Will of the People" style argument.
Would that that were true, but for almost 100 years we have had a slowly worsening cycle of: breakdown in the legislature -> increased executive action -> increasingly activist judges.
The conclusion should not be that Trump would have won. In a legal battle with hostile judges, they're going to view that argument through a partisan lens.
It's harder to prove how the election should have gone than it is proving that the results aren't credible.
The argument that Rudy is refining makes sense: there's enough irregularities and misconduct to throw the outcome into question. Contingency elections are the Constititional solution. At that point the judge has to explain why they believe actions like kicking out observers isn't justification for investigation. But that means their words can be used against their own partisan interests in the future.
If it comes down to the house voting Barr needs to make it clear that any acts of harassment or intimidation will be prosecuted, and since FB, twitter and other forms of social have taken the on responsibility of censoring if harassment and intimidation is allowed on their sites they will be liable, same with MSM.
The entire election could get blown the fuck up really fast if the kraken is the program from the CIA wikileaks documents. If she has real hard evidence of the dominion shit it will be world shattering.
That being said none of us have any influence on that. All we can do is wait and see what she has. We must focus on demanding that the laws are followed. I trust in sidney but I don't think discussing things we have no influence on really matters much. If she has it she has it and if she doesn't she doesn't.
The point is that a case like what she is bringing is going to be a jury trial. Dominion is going to fight it with tooth and nail because an axe is hanging over their head. It will drag out beyond the deadline.
According to her she could file a month from now and overturn the election results. Seems like she knows what she’s talking about. Idk why she would say that.
And don’t we NEED Georgia too? Is Lin Wood part of Trumps team? Because he’s been pedophilia and satanic worship lately. Doesn’t that sound like a larp too?
If the PA SC upholds the law, it will be appealed to the US SC on the Constitutional issue that State Legislatures are given the power to set election laws, not State courts or executives.
SCOTUS can take cases that are appealed beyond a state level supreme court
Typically, the Court hears cases that have been decided in either an appropriate U.S. Court of Appeals or the highest Court in a given state (if the state court decided a Constitutional issue).
I’ve been saying this for months, check my history. Legally, either EVERY “no excuse” mail-in ballots NEEDS to be disqualified — OR — EVERY ballot received after 8PM on Election Day (Trump was winning even considering the ballots received right before 8PM and not counted until later) NEEDS to be thrown out.
What if a large portion of supposedly mailed in ballots was comingled with the in-person ballots, which probably happened knowing all the fuckery that went on.
But before a proposed Constitutional Amendment can be submitted for approval by the voters, it must be passed by both houses of the Assembly in two consecutive sessions — and that has not happened. Only after that happens can it be placed on the ballot of a general election for approval by the voters.
Seems pretty fucking clear to me. If the PA Supreme Court can't even follow their own rules, then judges need to be impeached. This activist judge shit has gone way too fucking far.
Even if vote certifications get blocked or reverted by this means, Republican state legislatures are likely to choose their electors for the EC based on how they perceive people voted. They will consider it bad form to go against the "will of the people". In other words, there's a risk Repub legislators will still hand this to the Democrats.
This is why it is ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL to trace out, document, and prove the vote fraud that occurred. We have to show the public, the legislatures, and the world that Trump won fairly but the Democrats cheated. Then legislators won't feel guilty giving the win to Trump, since legitimate voters really gave it to him.
This may be so, but even if the judge rules the act unconstitutional, that's different from invalidating the votes, because one could argue that voters acted based on info they had at the time.
I doubt any judge will toss that many votes because the legislature fucked up.
The real question is why the PA legislature, which has a senate majority being GOP passed this absurd Act. Am I missing something?
Republicans must really love losing, ffs.
Votes are either lawful or unlawful as as stipulated by state law. The legislature passes laws re: election ballots. If what voters cast were unlawful ballots it does not matter what their intent was.
Mail-in ballots may be deemed entirely unlawful simply becase the Gov, SoS + PA Supr Ct allowed votes to be received past 8 PM 11/3.
In PA the SOS and Governor mis-represented the terms of voting by mail to the public. The deception commuicated by them about receiving ballots past 8 PM as legitimate is totally on them.
Legilature said Act 77 passes allowing mail-in voting only if all ballots are received by 8 PM 11/3. Law is non-severable. For Gov and SoS + PA Sup Ct to say receive past that time is OK, it voids the law, therefore voiding ALL mail in ballots.
Because almost all mail-in ballots are written in as unconstitutional in Pennsylvania, with few exceptions (disability etc)
They tried to put through an amendment to the constitution to change that, but they didn't follow the proper procedure, so the amendment isn't even in place.
I believe Act 77 was passed by the state legislature. The constitution gives the State Legislature all the rights to decide the election. But the violation is itself is only of PA Constitution, so this wouldnt necessarily go to SCOTUS. And PA Supreme Court is already stacked and in favor of changing voting laws.
Because the provision in Act 77 states was that if Mail-in was going to be allowed to happen at all the only ballots that could be considered valid are those received by 8 PM. The Gov, SoS, and PA Supr Ct violated the provisions of Act 77, and by co-mingling the pre-8 PM with post 8 PM they have poisoned the well to the point that what ballots came in before or after 8 are indistinguishable. The 8 PM requirements have been offended in practice; therefore, the legislature themselves would be in the position of refusing to allow any mail-in ballots from being considered for electoral college purposes.
The Gov and SoS and PA Supr Ct took it upon themselves to make the 8 PM 11/3 requirement of no effect, but since the law itself was not severable it was either the whole law was operative or none of the law was operative. Since the Gov , SoS, and PA Supr Ct tried to render a portion of the law inoperative, NONE of the law is therefore operative. Therefore NONE of the mail-in ballots made possible only by passage of Act 77 are lawful and countable
Agreed. The right to vote will likely supersede in the court's mind. I'm no legal scholar but I just don't see a judge invalidating that many votes based on this violation.
Unfortunately SCOTUS won't get into a state constitutional issue, they'll defer on that to the Pennsylvania Supreme Court, which is cucked beyond belief. We need federal claims to have a chance of SCOTUS relief.
The more suits, the better the chance of gains. If Barnes wants to take a signature verification strategy he can certainly do so, and leave Sydney to follow her own theory.
The problem is judges don't care about the text of the law unless it suits them. John Roberts is going to read what the New York Times is saying about "voter suppression" and base his decision on that.
On first blush, this seems an awful lot like what happened in VA. Before 2020, in VA you had to have a reason why you were requesting an absentee ballot.
Wanted to reiterate what I posted in another thread, but Dems pulled the same stunt in Wisconsin back in April 2020. Activist district judges allowed mail in ballots to be mailed & counted past the election day of April 7 until April 13. Now, it's slightly different than PA because in PA's case, the mail-in ballot had to be postmarked by a certain date extension (I forget now the date). But, it's very, very similar in nature in that dems used the China flu as a means to push thru all sorts of fraudulent-esque last minute state district court rulings.
The RNC asked SCOTUS to step in and they struck it down - here is Kavanaugh's words (from the 6 page pdf linked below, worth a read). Of course, 4 democrat justices dissented LOL - these people are quite stupid or outright malicious, it clearly states in the US constitution that election law is a states right's legislature issue meaning activist judges can't make or override legislated election law 5 days before an election.
Nonetheless, five days before the scheduled election,
the District Court unilaterally ordered that absentee ballots mailed and postmarked after election day, April 7, still
be counted so long as they are received by April 13. Extending the date by which ballots may be cast by voters—not
just received by the municipal clerks but cast by voters—
for an additional six days after the scheduled election day
fundamentally alters the nature of the election
Second, the dissent contends that this Court should not intervene at this late date.
The Court would prefer not to do so, but when a lower court
intervenes and alters the election rules so close to the election date, our precedents indicate that this Court, as appropriate, should correct that error.
Therefore, subject to any further alterations that the
State may make to state law, in order to be counted in this
election a voter’s absentee ballot must be either (i) postmarked by election day, April 7, 2020, and received by April
13, 2020, at 4:00 p.m., or (ii) hand-delivered as provided under state law by April 7, 2020, at 8:00 p.m.
The Court’s decision on the narrow question before the
Court should not be viewed as expressing an opinion on the
broader question of whether to hold the election, or whether
other reforms or modifications in election procedures in
light of COVID–19 are appropriate. That point cannot be
stressed enough.
The stay is granted pending final disposition of the appeal by the United States Court of Appeals for the Seventh
Circuit and the timely filing and disposition of a petition for
a writ of certiorari. Should the petition for a writ of certiorari be denied, this stay shall terminate automatically. In
the event the petition for a writ of certiorari is granted, the
stay shall terminate upon the sending down of the judgment of this Court.
So I was right, the dems worked with China to do this, why else would they implement this a year in advance, this whole thing is the insurance policy and I mean all of it, from the riots to the pandemic and all the bullshit. remember Bill Maher saying bring on the recession, and Chucky saying don't mess with the spooks all have been used
The thing that seems to be under played in this story, is why the Governor was pushing this through in 2019, BEFORE Covid hit. Hmm, did he know something we didn’t??
With these state judges completely ignoring constitutional laws right now the Dems are hoping to cast doubt on the validity of case, before it gets to Supreme Court. That is them showing fear if you think about it. As big media, big tech ramp up censorship and trying to “fact check” everything on the news and twist it into misinformation that is being scared. They wouldn’t be throwing all their resources toward trying to squash it if they weren’t. They know there is validity to the charges. They know constitutional we are right.
State Supreme Court has final say on interpreting state constitution and it is 5 Democrats and 2 Republicans. In court, one side argues A the other side argues non-A. The state Supreme Court has arguments to justify Democrat win. This is failure theater.
Why do many assume the law still matters and the SC is some virtuous neutral arbiter of the truth and the law? You can have great evidence, the facts and the law on your side but if you present it before a kangaroo court, you lose.
Courts are supposed to be like baseball umpires who don’t care which team wins. So should the media. Sadly, neither are. Courts have been politicized just like the FBI.
I firmly believe this is a strong case. There are several issues though. Is there any course of action when the extremely bias PA Supreme Court strikes this down? Has a court ever tossed out so many ballots? This is a horrible situation where the law is clear but it will cause a huge uproar and dise franchise a fuck ton of voters.
No more vote by mail Demoncrats use it to harvest ballots and fraudulently fill them out for Seniors in nursing homes and dead people as the USPS holds ballots undeliverable and gives to DNC operatives. USPS Union endorsed Biden.
I'm no lawyer, but that sounds like a slam-dunk win right there. Justice Alito is in charge of PA. I've said since before the election that the Keystone State is aptly named. That's why I hung the PA State flag out in front of my house on election day, and it will stay there until Trump starts his 2nd term. I don't live in PA.
Tbh, we aren't sure if Roberts identifies as a fella or not.
he was also caught on the lolita express thats why he constantly sides with the democrats...they are holding that info and him hostage...he is a turncoat now
I've been thinking. Would it be better if people who have information that lead to greater criminaIities are let off the hook? Lots of people with bIackmaiI, it looks. And lots of people who'd turn coat if they could get out of it. But the idea makes mesick.
Sometimes.
Different person - His adopted children from Ireland is the issue apparently - bad paperwork or something, so he more or less kidnapped children from Ireland to be his in the US.
This is long debunked. John Roberts wasn't on the lolita express, there was another man named John Roberts who worked for a college and flew on it's private jet by a pilot that also sometimes flew for Epstein. Here's the sauce: https://thedonald.win/p/HXk4T0ae/scotus-justice-john-roberts-wasn/
Here's what HASN"T been deboonked: 'The Hammer' was weaponized by Obumer/Commie Brennan and used against whole US. Justice John Roberts in particular was targeted.
It's also long been rumored that adoption process for his kids was (and possibly still is) a soft spot.
how can they ever release any blackmail goods? If everyone is blackmailed then no one is
Actually, Roberts was the one who assigned all the conservative justices to the circuit courts in all the key states we need... which really surprised me.
they might have him on some shit, but he's trying, so there's at least that much.
Couple of theories about this. It could be the ultimate fence sitting move of the decade.
Move these pro-Trump or Trump-appointed justices into these districts, and stay the hell away from them. This move does a number of things:
Forces the Trump appointees into a position to make a decision about the president who appointed them.
Removes/insulates liberal judges (mostly) from the situation.
The first move is a "gauntlet of fire" kind of move. Prove to the country if you're unbiased and going by the law or if your rulings will come from any political biases. It's fence-sitting because it puts them in the hot seat for any cases coming up through the courts for those districts. And if Biden takes over in January, the judges could be in the hot seat again for how they acted during the election.
Taking the liberal justices generally out of anything important to the election insulates them from fallout if this thing gets crazy. He probably wants them to be free and clear of any potential stains that this election may cause. He may also recognize that Trump or any Republican would never get a fair shake or even be heard by those justices, so it has its benefits. And we can't say that an appeal landing on the desk of Clarence Thomas and being denied was motivated by political bias.
It's a very complicated situation, but for those reasons and more, I feel like it's just more fence sitting. Which I guess is better than EVERY institution automatically lined up against us at every turn, so I'll take it.
IT’S
MAAMSOYBOI!Roberts gave us ObungoCare, fuck him, hes a Rino.
Lets not make any assumptions either, wouldn't want to wind up in prison.
Figures
NOT! How do you like the idea of 5 justices for a while?
We could always do like we did with “guys” and consider it technically gender neutral
Some of those fellas look like donkeys...
I thought there was some lady Obama appointed too
There is, Justice Sotomayor. This guy just posted without researching for upvotes is all.
Not a lady. A "wise latina" that "rips conservative colleagues over covid-19" REVOKE YOUR CONSENT!! Revoke HER.
Sotomayor has more lip hair than Burt Reynolds.
It's fellete you bigot.
its fellate you prude.
This is the Trump strategy. It has probably been the strategy since COVID happened. He knew the Dems would try and abuse their power, as mail-in ballots are considerably easier to defraud. Get everything in place, tell every American to vote in person because mail-in voting isn't secure, then absolutely invalidate EVERY LAST MAIL IN BALLOT and say "I told you so!"
Why are the Dems against the Constitution so much? It's going to bite them in the ass hard, here.
Only downside is, Left/Media will claim "muh disenfranchised voters".
And voters will be being disenfranchised. In a perfectly legal way.
However, this might be an "out" and a "deal".
As in, Trump agrees, no one goes to prison. Instead this is the perpetrators "out" the apparently legal avenue how we win. And I (Trump) get to pass my entire 2nd term agenda.
You can scream and shout all you want. You can special council. And investigate. But when it comes to congress, it gets passed (Like the USMCA).
Honestly I'd be one disenfranchised Pede if no one goes to prison. Or if the only ones going to prison are the insignificant commie foot soldiers.
I'll be very unhappy if the administration allows the swamp the chance to keep swamping after this.
I don’t even want prison time. I want them hung in time square on the 4th of July.
With fireworks.
And the Rockettes.
Up their ass, then lit
twice. 😂
This is treasonous behavior and must be met with trial and hangings. These people cannot be allowed to infect our system any longer. We can only exist as a country with the rule of law enforced.
Agreed.
The traitors need to face such serious consequences for their actions that no one in 10 generations would ever dare to attempt another coup.
The punishment needs to be very severe and very public.
Military tribunals
I don't understand how a military tribunal is any better than just charging them in court?
The Deep State controls the courts.
Military tribunals are also swifter.
I guess, but the army has a surprising number of officers that are cucks. Still probably better odds in the end
Military courts do not have jurisdiction. And even if they did, recusal would be expected en masse, as the plaintiff would be the military's commander-in-chief and the defendants would be elected representative of the legislature. Even if it wasn't, it would look like such a kangaroo court the international community would find an excuse to not recognize the outcome if in DJT's favor.
People will be tried for treason.
It would be the Democrat's fault, however, for pushing through unconstitutional laws in the first place, then telling everyone to follow them.
Can't really be disenfranchised if you're dead or a piece of paper.
Dead people, pieces of paper
The point of not allowing mass mail in ballots is that it is insecure and prone to problems. In other words, mail in voting causes legitimate voters to be disenfranchised. The election was run so poorly that no matter what judges do there will be massive disenfranchisement. The remedy for this is to have the representatives vote in the electors. Because without a valid election, that is the closest you can get to the will of the people.
Their 'disenfranchised voters' are just paper, in some part.
Obama outlined it in his farewell address. He said people give the power to the constitution, which is wrong. He basically said, get rid of the desire, and it goes away. He wanted to get rid of that document in the worse possible way.
The left believes the 51% of the population is entitled to do whatever they want.
In contrast, we believe in the human rights of the minority.
Would be glorious if all mail in ballots were invalidated swept every state hahahahaha
Will be from now on. Problem now is some may be LEGAL BALLOTS. They want to count all legal ballots. State blew up election, separated signatures, kept out observers, mixed naked ballots. Can remove counterfeit one-mark ballots to determine President but rest are do-over - - unless Amazon server in Germany has original un-massaged tallies and can be unwound -
i believe the demoncrats were well aware their attempted election fraud/theft would not stand up in the Supreme Court; they also likely knew President Trump was unbeatable for reeeeeeelection, so their TDS compelled them to take a giant heaping donkey/rino dump on this election, just to spite and taint DJT45's remaining 4 yrs in office, imho.
And this would also be why he told his supporters to vote in person, to further separate his votes from the fraudulent votes.
But then at polls (CA) they made us use felt-tip pens which reject at machines - hand inspected. Biden votes get counted. Trump votes stay rejected, removed from recounts too. This and every machine with software --> redo everywhere.
Dems are literally shitting themselves right now. Man the salt mines!!!
Are they? I haven’t seen that, but I’d like to.
You haven't seen it? Someone's coming to get you out here to see it, hold on. Kevin, get - go get the car warmed up. We're going - no, we need to get a crowd. There are shitty Democrat pants hanging from lamp posts, it's a bonanza. They're shitting all over.
Nope. They seem unusually confident every time I turn on the radio or tv. I don’t know what to believe anymore, but I never count President Trump out.
They are still confident. Nobody in the public is shitting their pants yet. The media and the Democrat officials are, though.
They're literally screaming and throwing things at press briefings, then reporting on their own tantrums and calling them justified.
What have you been watching?
Throwing things? Nah.
Yeah, one guy threw a pen at the chair.
Or it may have been a small mic.
The media never projects reality. They project what they want you to believe.
Right now it's like they're shouting "everything's fine!" in front of a burning city. Which they've done literally, if I recall the BLM riots.
Remember how confident they were that "the walls are closing in" on Trump and that he would be out of office any day now?
That's not confidence, it's hubris.
Drive through San Francisco sometime.
Would this even go to the SCOTUS? It's a state constitutional challenge.
Doesn't have to I guess, but likely will because all the lower judges are faggots who can't do their jobs.
Ya, but I don't think it can. This is a question of state law, the state supreme court is the highest court for those matters.
A state supreme court ruling can be appealed to SCOTUS
Edit: to add a source
That same source says the state supreme court has the final say for state laws.
Digging further, it appears SCOTUS generally only hears the state supreme court cases that somehow involve the US Constitution or federal law, so yeah you may be right about this particular case not going to SCOTUS
they didn’t follow the process to make it legal why wouldn’t it’s be appealed to the sc if state shoots it down. It’s a perfectly legitimate argument to drop all mail in votes
States rights are great but national elections are a matter of national security.
That's not part of this case, this is a simple legal challenge that says act 77 needed to be a constitutional amendment.
Yes, it could and probably will go to SCOTUS. The issue is twofold. Who has the right to make and change the laws governing Presidential elections, and the severability of the sections of the law. The first is clearly a Constitutional issue, as it clearly states that ONLY the state legislature can make or change election law. But in PA the Gov, SOS and court made changes. The VBM law, however, was quite clear that ANY changes made to ANY part of the law nullified the whole law. By changing the law, which was written to say that only those votes received by 8pm Tuesday 11/3 could be counted, to allowing ballots mailed by the 3rd and received days later, the law became null and void, and literally every single mail-in ballot rendered invalid.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/why-trump-will-triumph-pa-litigation
You're not wrong, but you're commenting on a different case. This case argues that act 77 passed last year needed to be a constitutional amendment. The fuckery pulled by the SOS is separate.
So what the status in THAT case, then? Is that in the one Rudy just appealed?
It was just filled, there's no ruling.
PA all moot with new case. Requirement for absentee eligibility in state constitution. Yes Legislature passed 77 to change absentee to no reason but they did not amend constitution so yes ALL mass mail ballots (including counterfeits) excluded. Trump won by 800K votes. Those that followed all old rules should get counted. 2016 the number of these was a couple of thousand. If there are any real absentees, they may not get counted, yes but they know who they are and they can do replacement ballots. Yes that is a good remedy. But do they still have vote flipping machines working on in-person ballots?
This isn't a federal law, this is a case arguing that a state law needed to be a constitutional amendment.
They would have to make that claim in the case for it to be a basis of appeal.
No, not the U.S Constitution, the Pennsylvania Constitution.
States have their own. This is a matter of state law.
I think the case is that the state didn't follow the federal Constitution because they didn't respect the state legislature being in charge of deciding how to do the state elections.
no they violated their own constitution with change by legislature. change invalid. if we can understand it b&w like this, if the court doesn't enjoin cert they should be terminated.
No this doesn't go anywhere I'm afraid because it's only the PA Supreme Court that can decide on what breaks the PA constitution.
No, there are provisions in the PA constitution that lists groups of people the state must offer absentee ballots to. The constitution instructs the PA legislature to pass laws to allow this. The case argues that act 77, that allows no excuse absentee ballots violates that provision of the constitution, thus those extra ballots are invalid. It's a great case and based on sound theory, but it's not a violation of the federal constitution.
Act 77 says that mail in ballots have to return within election day, or all ballots are invalid.
Therefore the PA authorities have violated Act 77, relying on activist judges' decisions, and this is what violates the federal Constitution.
In PA they are not applying Act 77, which is what the federal Constitution indirectly mandates.
new case state constitution invalidates 77
Ya, that's a completely different case. This thread is about a case challenging 77 on the fact that it needed to be an amendment instead of a law.
Right. Hard to argue when constitution says one thing and you do another. But "liberal judges" are illiterate when reading docs that have "Con...." at top.
The left: cries in RGB, may all fuck be upon her.
You know the only thing that pisses me off about this is
THE GOP COULDA DID THIS SHIT BEFORE THE FUCKING ELECTION EVEN STARTED!!!!
Or you can catch the fucks with their dicks in the cookie jar
This. Can’t prevent it from happening again unless you catch them
Drain the swamp
Every time I see someone questioning this stuff, I keep wondering if they've ever worked in an office, or seen a mafia movie before. Or played cards. Or questioned a thief. Or fumigated a house. Watched an episode of Mannix. "Why don't/didn't they just ______" is the single most annoying thing I read on a daily basis.
You have to let things happen to make other things happen. When you're politicking with traitors and slimeballs, spoons have to get bent. So few people can appreciate that. It's so much armchair football that I'm getting an edge I don't like.
Why didn’t Joe Biden’s mom just swallow?
Why didn't Joe and Hunter die in that car accident instead of his wife and daughter? The would would have been a better place.
Hungry?
For dick
They weren't aware that the Secretary of State/Biden's lawyers/whoever else snuck in behind their backs and somehow managed to change the law before the election. Same with the other states like GA, MI and WI
as far as i know they never actually changed the "Law" which is the main reason it will be thrown out. That is why Alito told them to separate the ballots which they ignored...
The law was never actually changed. The PA supreme court was in on it also ruling in a way that was not actually legal. I understand that the lawsuit was filed yesterday so it's news but I thought there already was one for this or was it something similar?
The other case that the PA Supreme Court ruled and made changes was that mail in ballots could be received up to 3 days after the deadline, 8 pm on Nov. 3, and still be counted despite what legislation said.
Trump can’t even get support from his own fucking party with most of those faggots wouldn’t even be there without him
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This is the REAL plan of attack. Invalidate every single mail in ballot that was unconstitutional.
Something to think about: Trump screamed off the rooftops for his followers to vote in-person and not by mail. Really activates the ol' almonds, doesn't it?
Which means we need to flip more blue to red in those areas. I'm deep blue and my polls were lined with MAGA
Actually he said mail it in, then go and verify in person. He specifically said they were going to tamper with it. Tik tok was filled with videos of people throwing away ballots for Trump.
Either way, the 10 or so counties that stopped counting at midnight is also the counties with mail ballot return ratios well in excess of demographically and politically similar areas, i.e. in most of the nation you've got 50-60% ballot return rate, and in the same 10 that shut down and sent poll watchers home, you've got 85-98% return rate, and some precincts claiming vote totals in excess of their registered voter total.
The overlap between their statistical irregularities and their unprecedented and coordinated conduct on election night, is enough evidence of a preplanned method to rig the election in those precincts. To get turnout/return rates to approach 100% is insurmountably difficult. To go from 65% to 70% would have required millions invested in campaigns, door to door ops, return boxes and parking lot chasers.
He told us to vote by mail and then show up election day and make sure your vote got recorded. Hmmmmm
In PA the voters get to vote on amendments... We didn't. Mail in ballots gotta go. Even the ones for Trump.
Exactly, all 6 of them.
exactly
I don’t understand what this means but anything to keep those Dems busy is fine by me.
They passed changes allowing no excuse abseetee ballot requests but they only did that as the first step to changing it in the PA constitution, problem is, they never got around to that second part of changing the PA constitution so the entire thing is invalid.
The PA State Legislature cannot let this slide.
We're probably going to see a split outcome in that regard. It's likely the SCOTUS verdict will strike down the law, but not all of the ballots. It's hard for a court to dump ballots at that scale. We might see a re-vote, but the precedent there is complex.
A re-vote without the mail-in vote shennanigans is a Trump landslide.
It's incredibly unlikely we see a re-vote since this is a PA constitutional issue not a US constitutional issue. SCOTUS and federal courts have no jurisdiction.
I believe you. There's precedent for re-votes due to fraud, but I don't think that's even been the case for a presidential election (and also it was in other States).
Regardless, this is popcorn worthy.
I think PA state court is 5-2 for Dems so this wold be a waste of time if that's the case.
I don't understand how they CAN disagree, though. They should be immediately let go of they do. It's literally the law.
That's like PA just making up a random number, and the court say they allow it. They CAN'T.
If a judge HAS to rule according to law, I don't see how they can actually dismiss this?
Because they are Democrat hacks. They lie about the law all the time to get their way. It's sick.
Can you imagine the vote totals if there were a national re-vote, with everything in-person and being filmed? Would Biden even get 30 million votes?
I'm not sure if the Constitution has any provisions for a re-vote but if there were one it would be the biggest landslide imaginable.
Impossible for a Presidential election, no?
Constitutional Autist Alito is not happy
Potentially could make all their mass mail in voting illegal.
PA democrats ramrodded expansion of absentee ballots "ACT 77", and even though it was properly amended, passed by House and Senate, then signed into law by Gov. Wolf, - It did not meet PA's constitutional process because it wasn't passed in both houses of assembly in two consecutive sessions, and then added to the ballot to be voted on in PA's general election.
PA's new amendment struck out all the enumerated grounds of absentee voting, and added, "their could be no law pursuant to require citizens to vote in person"...at all. They did not follow through PA's entire constitutional amendment process and rushed the law, So all absentee votes relying on the State's new violations of PA's constitution can be thrown out.
PA of course will not recognize this as the judges have already been stating with prejudice. So we'll see how far the complaint goes.
Simplest way to put it: you can't make a law that that changes an amendment unless that law is itself an amendment.
For the United States, the Constitution says that the only way to amend the Constitution is if 2/3 of both House and Senate agree and then 2/3 of all States also agree. You can't make an amendment just by getting a slim majority for one election cycle. You need overwhelming majority agreement.
State legislatures also have similar models that raises the bar for an amendment. For Pennsylvania, they would have had to pass the new amendment two sessions in a row and then have the voters also approve it at the next election.
What happened after April with the proposed amendment? Did it get tabled, did it get voted against, etc? Might be very material to the case.
It doesn't matter. To change the constitution in Pennsylvania the public has to vote on it like a Californian proposition.
They didn't even meet the first step: passed in both houses in two consecutive sessions.
If it was VOTED on twice but only PASSED once, that gives a lot more credence to the act being illegal (and takes wiggle room away from the justices). If it was only voted on once for some COVID related reason, etc, an activist justice is going to make a "Will of the People" style argument.
The will of the people didn't get to vote on it so that judge can fuck off.
Any judge that attempts to uphold this law should but put in jail. One judge doesn't decide for millions of residents.
They literally do though.
Based on the Law, not their fucking feelings
Would that that were true, but for almost 100 years we have had a slowly worsening cycle of: breakdown in the legislature -> increased executive action -> increasingly activist judges.
I think they're trying all types of avenues just in case one falls through.
All the states that suddenly stopped counting need to have all those votes thrown out after that point when the counting stopped
Equal protection clause
Maybe by now there are too many batches of ballots that are being challenged to ever separate the good from bad.
The conclusion should not be that Trump would have won. In a legal battle with hostile judges, they're going to view that argument through a partisan lens.
It's harder to prove how the election should have gone than it is proving that the results aren't credible.
The argument that Rudy is refining makes sense: there's enough irregularities and misconduct to throw the outcome into question. Contingency elections are the Constititional solution. At that point the judge has to explain why they believe actions like kicking out observers isn't justification for investigation. But that means their words can be used against their own partisan interests in the future.
Getting to contingency election as is spelled out in the 12th amendment that created the electoral college may very well indeed be the play.
And that's the new house of reps, but 1 vote per state, which is 27 R - 23 D I think. As long as RINOs don't stab him in the back.
If it comes down to the house voting Barr needs to make it clear that any acts of harassment or intimidation will be prosecuted, and since FB, twitter and other forms of social have taken the on responsibility of censoring if harassment and intimidation is allowed on their sites they will be liable, same with MSM.
Lol yeah I'm sure Barr will get right on it.
Actually it is now 31-19. Many new seats won.
It’s a party line vote I believe
In that case, don't the Rs HAVE to vote for the R candidate?
Nope. They just "get a vote" however they want.
This is how we win. Not larps... Raw data. Raw facts.
I’m pretty sure Sydney has tons of facts and raw data on her side. Why we dooming on her already?
The entire election could get blown the fuck up really fast if the kraken is the program from the CIA wikileaks documents. If she has real hard evidence of the dominion shit it will be world shattering.
That being said none of us have any influence on that. All we can do is wait and see what she has. We must focus on demanding that the laws are followed. I trust in sidney but I don't think discussing things we have no influence on really matters much. If she has it she has it and if she doesn't she doesn't.
The point is that a case like what she is bringing is going to be a jury trial. Dominion is going to fight it with tooth and nail because an axe is hanging over their head. It will drag out beyond the deadline.
Not dooming on her. I just think the servers in Germany are a distraction and misdirection until proven otherwise.
According to her she could file a month from now and overturn the election results. Seems like she knows what she’s talking about. Idk why she would say that.
And don’t we NEED Georgia too? Is Lin Wood part of Trumps team? Because he’s been pedophilia and satanic worship lately. Doesn’t that sound like a larp too?
Lin Wood, like Sidney Powell, is operating independently, but alongside the Trump Legal Team.
So realistically, not a single thing we’ve been talking about or doing on this site matters in the slightest if Rudy and Jenna don’t win?
If they don't win this at the State Supreme Court, they will definitely win at SCOTUS.
It won't go SCOTUS if it's a state constitution issue. Wrong jurisdiction.
If the PA SC upholds the law, it will be appealed to the US SC on the Constitutional issue that State Legislatures are given the power to set election laws, not State courts or executives.
If the PA Supreme Court changed the Constitution, it might be ruled on by SCOTUS, if there is enough time to get it there.
SCOTUS can take cases that are appealed beyond a state level supreme court
From: https://www.uscourts.gov/about-federal-courts/educational-resources/about-educational-outreach/activity-resources/supreme-1
I’ve been saying this for months, check my history. Legally, either EVERY “no excuse” mail-in ballots NEEDS to be disqualified — OR — EVERY ballot received after 8PM on Election Day (Trump was winning even considering the ballots received right before 8PM and not counted until later) NEEDS to be thrown out.
Either way, Trump wins.
What if a large portion of supposedly mailed in ballots was comingled with the in-person ballots, which probably happened knowing all the fuckery that went on.
They look different.
There were pristine ballots arriving by truckloads. Who knows what they were...
WE WON!!
Seems pretty fucking clear to me. If the PA Supreme Court can't even follow their own rules, then judges need to be impeached. This activist judge shit has gone way too fucking far.
Even if vote certifications get blocked or reverted by this means, Republican state legislatures are likely to choose their electors for the EC based on how they perceive people voted. They will consider it bad form to go against the "will of the people". In other words, there's a risk Repub legislators will still hand this to the Democrats.
This is why it is ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL to trace out, document, and prove the vote fraud that occurred. We have to show the public, the legislatures, and the world that Trump won fairly but the Democrats cheated. Then legislators won't feel guilty giving the win to Trump, since legitimate voters really gave it to him.
They are in on it
This may be so, but even if the judge rules the act unconstitutional, that's different from invalidating the votes, because one could argue that voters acted based on info they had at the time. I doubt any judge will toss that many votes because the legislature fucked up.
The real question is why the PA legislature, which has a senate majority being GOP passed this absurd Act. Am I missing something? Republicans must really love losing, ffs.
Votes are either lawful or unlawful as as stipulated by state law. The legislature passes laws re: election ballots. If what voters cast were unlawful ballots it does not matter what their intent was.
Mail-in ballots may be deemed entirely unlawful simply becase the Gov, SoS + PA Supr Ct allowed votes to be received past 8 PM 11/3.
In PA the SOS and Governor mis-represented the terms of voting by mail to the public. The deception commuicated by them about receiving ballots past 8 PM as legitimate is totally on them.
Legilature said Act 77 passes allowing mail-in voting only if all ballots are received by 8 PM 11/3. Law is non-severable. For Gov and SoS + PA Sup Ct to say receive past that time is OK, it voids the law, therefore voiding ALL mail in ballots.
Why would this violate all mail ins and not just the ones that came after 8pm election day?
Because almost all mail-in ballots are written in as unconstitutional in Pennsylvania, with few exceptions (disability etc)
They tried to put through an amendment to the constitution to change that, but they didn't follow the proper procedure, so the amendment isn't even in place.
The Pennsylvanian Supreme Court will rule it constitutional because Orange Man Bad.
Ah well, is that not the end of the road then?
I believe Act 77 was passed by the state legislature. The constitution gives the State Legislature all the rights to decide the election. But the violation is itself is only of PA Constitution, so this wouldnt necessarily go to SCOTUS. And PA Supreme Court is already stacked and in favor of changing voting laws.
Unless I'm mistaken, I was under the impression that Act 77 being invalid was the argument of the case. I'll have to re-read it
Because the provision in Act 77 states was that if Mail-in was going to be allowed to happen at all the only ballots that could be considered valid are those received by 8 PM. The Gov, SoS, and PA Supr Ct violated the provisions of Act 77, and by co-mingling the pre-8 PM with post 8 PM they have poisoned the well to the point that what ballots came in before or after 8 are indistinguishable. The 8 PM requirements have been offended in practice; therefore, the legislature themselves would be in the position of refusing to allow any mail-in ballots from being considered for electoral college purposes.
The Gov and SoS and PA Supr Ct took it upon themselves to make the 8 PM 11/3 requirement of no effect, but since the law itself was not severable it was either the whole law was operative or none of the law was operative. Since the Gov , SoS, and PA Supr Ct tried to render a portion of the law inoperative, NONE of the law is therefore operative. Therefore NONE of the mail-in ballots made possible only by passage of Act 77 are lawful and countable
Agreed. The right to vote will likely supersede in the court's mind. I'm no legal scholar but I just don't see a judge invalidating that many votes based on this violation.
Unfortunately SCOTUS won't get into a state constitutional issue, they'll defer on that to the Pennsylvania Supreme Court, which is cucked beyond belief. We need federal claims to have a chance of SCOTUS relief.
Wouldn't that be where Sydney comes in with Dominion used in 29 states?
The more suits, the better the chance of gains. If Barnes wants to take a signature verification strategy he can certainly do so, and leave Sydney to follow her own theory.
The problem is judges don't care about the text of the law unless it suits them. John Roberts is going to read what the New York Times is saying about "voter suppression" and base his decision on that.
We don't need lost causes like John Roberts. Pray the five conservative justices do what's right.
On first blush, this seems an awful lot like what happened in VA. Before 2020, in VA you had to have a reason why you were requesting an absentee ballot.
It's also a violation of federal law which designates an election day, not election month.
Wanted to reiterate what I posted in another thread, but Dems pulled the same stunt in Wisconsin back in April 2020. Activist district judges allowed mail in ballots to be mailed & counted past the election day of April 7 until April 13. Now, it's slightly different than PA because in PA's case, the mail-in ballot had to be postmarked by a certain date extension (I forget now the date). But, it's very, very similar in nature in that dems used the China flu as a means to push thru all sorts of fraudulent-esque last minute state district court rulings.
The RNC asked SCOTUS to step in and they struck it down - here is Kavanaugh's words (from the 6 page pdf linked below, worth a read). Of course, 4 democrat justices dissented LOL - these people are quite stupid or outright malicious, it clearly states in the US constitution that election law is a states right's legislature issue meaning activist judges can't make or override legislated election law 5 days before an election.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/19pdf/19a1016_o759.pdf
https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/19a1016.html
So I was right, the dems worked with China to do this, why else would they implement this a year in advance, this whole thing is the insurance policy and I mean all of it, from the riots to the pandemic and all the bullshit. remember Bill Maher saying bring on the recession, and Chucky saying don't mess with the spooks all have been used
The thing that seems to be under played in this story, is why the Governor was pushing this through in 2019, BEFORE Covid hit. Hmm, did he know something we didn’t??
With these state judges completely ignoring constitutional laws right now the Dems are hoping to cast doubt on the validity of case, before it gets to Supreme Court. That is them showing fear if you think about it. As big media, big tech ramp up censorship and trying to “fact check” everything on the news and twist it into misinformation that is being scared. They wouldn’t be throwing all their resources toward trying to squash it if they weren’t. They know there is validity to the charges. They know constitutional we are right.
State Supreme Court has final say on interpreting state constitution and it is 5 Democrats and 2 Republicans. In court, one side argues A the other side argues non-A. The state Supreme Court has arguments to justify Democrat win. This is failure theater.
The problem is that is a violation of state law where the SCOTUS will defer to the state supreme court. That court has already proven to be cucked.
Maybe, but not if the supreme court detects a violation of the equal protection clause. Then scotus will make a remedy.
Let’s go Supreme Court. Last bastion of this free and beloved country!
Why did they wait till now?
Exact same case L Lin Wood filed regarding GA on 11/13 that will likely end up At SCOTUS
gottem.
All your votes are belong to us
Wouldn't it just be PASC?
Yeah, was tied up. Brain malfunction.
This is probably the best change type of lawsuit we have, but it is most likely to cause a civil war
Why do many assume the law still matters and the SC is some virtuous neutral arbiter of the truth and the law? You can have great evidence, the facts and the law on your side but if you present it before a kangaroo court, you lose.
Courts are supposed to be like baseball umpires who don’t care which team wins. So should the media. Sadly, neither are. Courts have been politicized just like the FBI.
This. The pa courts have already made illegal rules and over stepped their powers. What recourse is there when courts are ruling illegally?
Isnt this what Trump team has filed anyway?
I firmly believe this is a strong case. There are several issues though. Is there any course of action when the extremely bias PA Supreme Court strikes this down? Has a court ever tossed out so many ballots? This is a horrible situation where the law is clear but it will cause a huge uproar and dise franchise a fuck ton of voters.
No more vote by mail Demoncrats use it to harvest ballots and fraudulently fill them out for Seniors in nursing homes and dead people as the USPS holds ballots undeliverable and gives to DNC operatives. USPS Union endorsed Biden.
And going block to block knocking on doors to collect ballots from people that would never have voted.
It’s like these states view their Constitutions as irrelevant. Toss the ballots or run an election again under Constitutional rules.
I'm no lawyer, but that sounds like a slam-dunk win right there. Justice Alito is in charge of PA. I've said since before the election that the Keystone State is aptly named. That's why I hung the PA State flag out in front of my house on election day, and it will stay there until Trump starts his 2nd term. I don't live in PA.
Alito isn’t the judge that will be judging the case tho.
This is going into the state courts over the state constitution.
THIS IS FUCKING BIG!!!
BC from my understanding, it was only the legislator could've challenge PA supreme court.
If the challenge is based on the Pennsylvania state constitution, is it even eligible for SCOTUS? They only handle matters of federal law.