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Not just idiots, they are beyonce idocacy.
If things got bad like Germany (police arresting people with no warant or due process), or South Australia (where you can't leave the house to walk the dog and oh five people died from it THIS YEAR), then you spotted a potential dangerous enemy.
People like this have moved from idiots to dangerous.
Remember this, they will sell you and the country down in a split second.
I notice solo drivers with masks often. I saw a runner—fit young man—with a mask the other day. Many lone bikers with masks. A man walking his dog alone with a KN95. It’s not getting any less bizarre
My friend encountered the opposite. She was jogging by herself and some asshole yelled out of a car, ”Wear your mask bitch!” She’s really non confrontational, so sadly she now just wears a mask every time she goes outside because she don’t want to be hassled.
I mean I wore a gaiter style face mask while running the other day but only because it was 20 something degrees out. Runners did wear face masks before COVID. But mostly for the reasons that skiers do.
Yeah, the sad thing is now if I want to run in the winter I either have to freeze or look like a retard mask wearer because these cocksuckers are all wearing stuff everywhere. Thankfully the year has been mild so far so it hasn’t been an issue, but still.
"Well the mask should filter out everything, even as small as a virus. You wouldn't be able to tell anyways, right? Or are you afraid that something might get through?"
That’s just so if he died the hospital could get some of that sweet sweet China Flu subsidy money and add another data point for the corrupt politicians to use to control us plebs.
Technically, it was. The moron wouldn't have been wearing it if his MSM/government overlords hadn't convinced him to hear the face diaper at all times or die.
This would probably also work where if some self-righteous mask Nazi got a broken nose because he mouthed off to the wrong person about not wearing a mask. Cause: Covid-related.
I don’t buy this because skiers and snowboarders have been wearing face masks while doing strenuous activity for always. And at high altitude, no less. Your brain also sends very obvious alarm bells when you’re inhaling carbon dioxide.
Not to say it isn’t still a retard move to wear a mask while driving alone in your car, I just don’t buy the story that people are passing out from it. What were they wearing as a mask, a plastic bag?
Skiers and snowboarders can pull the mask down when needed, and do, with no repercussions.
But someone driving around in their car by themselves....can't?
And didn't they only recently start needing the heater? I was hearing about people passing out in their cars over the summer too.
CO2 buildup is definitely real, but your brain alerts you to it. It's not like carbon monoxide. Hold your breath as long as you can and you'll see exactly what CO2 buildup feels like. I'm willing to bet you won't pass out.
Skiers and snowboarders wear gaiters that are designed to be breathable for high intensity sports. Regular people are wearing surgical masks and N95 masks. Like another commentator mentioned, many of them are probably out of shape and unhealthy. Not too unsurprising if it would at least make people light headed.
I wouldn't expect one of those paper surgical masks to keep my face warm, so I don't know how they could possibly restrict someone's breathing more than a gaiter. But then again the CDC says that gaiters aren't effective and just aerosolize the virus, so I don't know what the hell to believe really. I do know that drywall guys and woodworkers have been wearing filtered masks similar to N95s since way before COVID as well, and they don't seem to be passing out left and right.
Yeah, you're probably going to get downvoted but you're right. I don't really understand why we've gone so fucking hard on anti-mask bullshit. Government orders = bad. But it seems like it's not that big of a fucking deal for me to put something on when I enter a store or restaurant.
No it is a big fucking deal. It's that attitude of "oh it's just a piece of cloth on my face" that took us from 15 days to slow the spread to where we are today. We are WAAAYY past containing this virus. It's out. Locking us up or making us wear masks isn't going to cure it.
Forced masking is wrong and perpetuates a false pandemic by making people sick for more false positives and so on.
If someone wants to wear one ok. If that makes you feel better, don’t force others. And I will wear a gaterneck when working in very cold weather or wind to keep my noise and ears warm, but I can breath. And I wash it, and only wear it for Keeping warm.
If you think for a second they're actually keeping anyone "safe" then answer two questions:
How come since the mask "mandates" have started the numbers of cases have continued to rise to the point where some jurisdictions are going back to levels of oppression we saw in March? Shouldn't it be the opposite?
How come we continue to see stories/videos leak of some of the most oppressive government officials gallivanting about at private gatherings and settings and violating their own mandates? It couldn't possibly be because they know the mandates are all a farce, right?
They claim that "nobody's wearing their masks so the numbers are going up," but that's false. The number of people who don't wear them are much, much, MUCH lower than those who do. So for the numbers to be what they claim (they probably aren't that high, either), it has to be the mask wearers getting sick (which, btw, there was that study posted here that said 85% of those infected were regular mask wearers).
I've heard the "nobody's wearing masks" argument but it's easily debunked. We all go out in public and see how many people are wearing them. To make the claim that "nobody's wearing them" is clearly a lie.
But you're right anyway about the 85% number. When you throw that back at them it kills all their arguments anyway.
Wear your mask when you walk into a restaurant but you can take it off when you sit down. Put it back on when you go to the bathroom. But you can take it off when you sit back down. Then put it on when you exit the restaurant.
Wear your mask between bites during Thanksgiving. Wear your mask while you're at the gym. Don't stand on the beach by yourself. You can walk along the beach but do not stop or sit. Protesting for BLM Inc. is important and celebrating Biden's media-appointed win is encouraged. Come on down to China Town. Why did Trump kill everyone? You can't go to your grandmother's funeral but celebrities can go to George "Fentanyl" Floyd's golden casket funeral, and the "civil rights icon" what's his name's funeral. Because they're better than citizens. The governor's husband can get on his boat during July 4 but not a lowly citizen. The anointed class can get their hair done but not a lowly citizen. Stay safe, flatten the curve, stay home. Covid patients belong in senior living centers. Don't you believe in science??
Seriously. And reading about “medical professionals” who came out to say that protesting is an important exception because fighting racism is as important an issue as covid. Dafuq?
Exactly this. My parents, who happily voted Trump, are under this same delusion. They said flu and colds are down (they haven't experienced them this year), but covid is up and terrifying. They also have not experienced covid since they're retired and just hiding in place in their home...
Lmao I’m sitting here with a slightly stuffy nose and i was first like “ahh fuck, probably got covid and have to miss work for two weeks because of this bullshit”. Then i remembered there’s other sicknesses that exist, but all we ever hear about is covid.
That's odd. I've had the beginnings of a cold and my kid and my friend started getting sick (on separate occasions) and the first thing that came to my mind was a cold, not covid.
Yeah, i’m not worried about having covid, it’s just that covid has been hammered into our heads for 9 months and having to miss two weeks of work right now would suck, so that’s the first place my brain went, lol.
That's how this conversation started with my parents; I told them how it was noteworthy that they were going to stop counting flu cases. My parents were like "well yeah, so few cases with all social distancing, so it makes sense to stop counting flu cases".
I was livid but didn't show them my anger since they're just clueless and paranoid about covid, plus they hate liberals and vote the right way so my efforts are better served elsewhere.
I had this same convo with a nurse friend. When they gave the same answer as your parents, I said ' it seems odd tho, after 24 years of the local CDC publishing their FluWatch memos with monthly flu cases- they only stopped in July of this year'.
She said, ' I didn't know there was such a thing as FluWatch Memos, but I can see why they stopped because there were no cases to report, so why bother.'
I didn't say a word, just showed her the 2020 March and June FluWatch Memos - CONFIRMED flu cases: +2200 in March and only 18 in May (the normal end-point for flu in our region).
I said, 'last year in May, there were 223 confirmed flu cases - pretty big drop, even for the end of the season. Is the hospital still testing for flu at all?'
She looked thoughtful, and then looked down and didn't answer.
I still can't believe this isn't a bigger deal. Like they just decided fuck it and they're not counting this year. Years from now there's gonna be a big ol gap in the data because they decided that the flu doesn't matter anymore. Why does that make any sense???
Correct me if I'm wrong (cause i very well could be) but the way i read those reports are that they're lumping pneumonia, influenza, and covid into one statistic. In years past it's been just P&I. So it makes the data a whole lot less useful when trying to compare covid deaths to the others
That’s what I’m worried about. No doubt I will get some type of the flu in the next month or so, but they will say it’s COVID and I’ll get to be treated like a leper.
Honestly, in my opinion, if you’re coming down with some kind of sickness, you shouldn’t bother getting a test unless it’s bad. Of course take off work/avoid people like normal, but I personally think everyone should stop getting tested in protest of the lockdowns.
That might sound crazy but hear me out. They’re basing lockdowns off of the number of cases, not severely ill/deaths. The test itself is oftentimes inaccurate. there’s a significant number of asymptomatic/incredibly minor cases, and 99.98% of people recover. That being said, why the hell would we lockdown entire states? Why are we essentially being punished?! And there’s no end in sight. Fuck this. Stop testing.
That’s the thing. I only go to the doctor when I feel I have real issue. If I call off sick for work they may force me to get tested out of their fear of COVID is my concern. Then I’ll get a false positive or straight up lied to about having it. Which will then further the nonsense agenda.
That's precisely how they keep this going through the spring.
Don't monitor for Influenza, but give everyone a faulty PCR test that is amplified 25% more than recommended to be a valid test so you get tons of false positives.
Gotta keep those "cases" numbers jacked up for another 6 months.
I think it's worst for the retirees. Old enough to worry about it, nothing to force them out of the house, still watch tv for the news... my mom is getting more and more paranoid.
Same. At least my mom has had a lot of yard work to keep her busy and physically active, but now with winter I'm concerned about her just being inside watching shitheads on the news.
You should sneak in and block the MSM channels on their TV. Or put the child lock on them. It's basically there for exactly that reason: To keep people who shouldn't be seeing something from seeing it.
I definitely agree. My mom is there too. Granted, she's in her 70's and has some health problems already, so I understand it a little more since respiratory infections take a hard toll on her anyways, but.. when she starts going on about the general public not complying to orders and how she's watching cases rise everyday and getting more and more scared.. ugh. Feels bad man. And there's no reasoning with her or talking her out of it.
I have an 80 yr. Old maiden aunt. Super Catholic. She listens to Rush and gets all fired up and says "fuck all those fucking democrats!". Then has to say another rosary. She's not buying any of it. Now hates Fox ( except Hannity). You love to see it lol!
Show them the mortality rate this year for Sweden compared to past years! That was the final straw for my gf + her family and my parents who were somewhere in the middle with this whole plandemic, once they saw that they were like ... this is all bs. All refuse to get vaccinated over a common cold.
Spez: For context they're all on the Trump train too since I recruited them in 16 during the R primaries and after 4 years they're 110% aboard. They weren't acting like this plandemic is the plague nor that people who have had it are basically lepers now, which many of the normies around them were doing, but they were being cautious and most of them gave benefit of the doubt - so many are so afraid so it must be serious - now they know it's entirely about control.
Our region had 38,000 deaths to the end of October 2019 and only 32,000 to the end of October 2020. Lung/heart category was 6,000 in 2019 and 5000 in 2020.
How did 1000 FEWER people die in the Lung/Heart category in 2020 - if we have a lung-eating pandemic?
PRO TIP: go to the Coroners website NOT the Health Department, for the real numbers in your area.
I've already hit a couple people with this. Their response will likely be the same most everyone else here will get: ThE rOnA iS mUcH mOaR cOnTaGiOuS tHoUgH!!
These pansies insist on staying terrified until mayors, governors, media, and Fauci tell them it's OK to have their rights and lives back.
Everywhere I go people are wearing masks, yet the cases have skyrocketed this fall and the npc's blame it on people not wearing masks. It just doesn't register with these idiots that cloth masks don't fucking work.
They think that they only work if everyone, 100% of the population, wears them. That if even 1 person fails to do so, then it causes massive huge uncontrollable spread and a surging explosion of cases. If literally one person out of 7 billion can ruin a whole plan then maybe it’s a shit plan.
I've literally heard this very argument made on some local "wEaR yOuR mAsK" covid ad. "It only takes one person to mess it up for everyone!" No, that's not how it works FFS
If everyone wore N95 or N100 masks and sanitized their hands on a regular basis, this thing would be over in a month. Instead people walk around like a piece of cotton over their mouth and nose is going to protect them. If anything the false sense of security from inadequate “face coverings” is actually creating risk.
Sweden public health officials never said masks don’t work.
In fact they say that people should wear them when using crowded public transportation for example.
Yes they say in certain situations you may wear a mask but the overall stance is this:
"We do not currently recommend face masks in public settings since the scientific evidence around the effectiveness of face masks in combatting the spread of infection is unclear."
This is crowded public transportation in Sweden right now btw
Thats fake news. A month or so ago someone posted a screenshot that made the rounds where they said they weren't tracking. It was out of context iirc because I read the full page it was on. Even if I was mistaken and it wasn't out of context, the fact is they are still tracking it this season.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm
It's misunderstood news. Your link says that, but you also cut off the context. "Due to the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic, this system will suspend data collection for the 2020-21 influenza season. Data from previous seasons are available on FluView Interactive." They're not saying all systems will suspend data collection, only the "State and Territorial Epidemiologists Report," which is #3 on your link. They still have the systems specified in #1, 2, 4, and 5 that are collecting data for the 20-21 season and that is why u/Racerspuff is correct and that's why there is data on their website at the link they provided.
Then where are they getting data to fill the maps and reports on this page: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/fluactivitysurv.htm
Your link may say something to that effect, as I said above, but the reality is they are collecting data.
Simple : because masks don’t protect at 100% and that’s why there are several measures in place that each decrease the risk of catching and transmitting the virus.
With your same non-reasoning you could say : if washing hands works, why standing 6 feet apart?
Baffling that almost a year into this pandemic, some people still don’t get the very basics on how viruses work. Sad.
I haven't worn a mask since April, maybe May. Only one place has tried to enforce it, the Taylor's by my house, last week. Guy pointed to a tub they had at the door of masks, said I needed one and could take one of those. I turned around and walked out. Went to Home Depot instead. Fuck em.
I don't wear masks outside on the sidewalk or in parks, but if a store requires masks and I need something from them, I wear it. You know why? If a store doesn't wanna bake a cake they don't have to, if they don't want people in without masks, they can choose too.
At least be consistent. You can't walk in without a shirt and shoes in some places, but you still have the freedom to do what you want outside of private businesses.
Yes. I don't agree that the governor has the right to set the rules for the store. I live in a state with an oppressive communist governor, he's a gigantic cockroach.
Regardless, if there's a sign up saying the store wants you to wear the mask, I oblige. I see those videos of the screaming Karens arguing with the store owners to "own the employees" and I think they're as stupid as libs. I have no problem if you want to do that because you're unsure of the store's policy, and will go without a ruckus if they do want to enforce the policy.
I wouldn't say in 95% of the cases they aren't the stores rules. However misguided, the store owner might think they're protecting their employee's and their health. I know a dude with a disorder that compromises his immune system, but he has to work so he really wants people to wear the masks. I don't know if the masks actually help, but he has that right in his business.
The 1968 flu killed 100,000 people over a span of one year and a half, from July 1969 to Winter 69/70.
Covid is set to kill about 4 times as much in the US in the same time span. And that’s with mask wearing among other measures.
That’s the difference for you.
Hahaha. Compare the categories. 1968 was a completely different beast. First, they didn't hide their statistics depending on their political goals back then. They also didn't stuff care facilities or abuse the elderly on a mass scale because of that season's flu. On top of that, there's the incentive for deaths now.
I'm not even going to address your clueless reply.
Since you have a number, you will need to cross reference columns specifying "deaths from," "comorbidities," and additionally the columns for various other deadly diseases and community mortality. If you refuse, you won't like the graph I'm now working on (thanks for the assist on the idea!) You might even force yourself to look the other way.
The CDC doesn't report the data that we need to be properly informed and they contradict themselves way too often. You'd be better informed flipping a coin.
All you have to do is look at Europe... masks, lock downs, nothing has slowed this virus down and nothing will until we get herd immunity, if we can... how can a piece of cloth with 10 micron holes catch a virus which is .3 microns big, might as well be trying to stop mosquitoes with a barbed wire fence.
I have said from the beginning that I don't think they ever will get a hang on this thing. COVID-19 as it is called is only one of dozens of different coronaviruses that have been circulating throughout the world for hundreds of years. It just so happened to break out as a more virulent strain.
It will sound heartless to say but 250k dead in one year from it is really not that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things. They should have treated this thing like every other flu we have had. Sucks to get it, take precautions if you have a preexisting condition or a weaker immune system, and stay home if you're actually sick.
Just to add some science to this the Flu has an r0 of 1.24 Wuhan Flu (Pre Lockdows) had an r0 of 4.0
The stay at home orders and cloth masks COULD (not saying they do) reduce the transmissibility of Coronaviruses by 1. Such that the r0 of Flu this season is something like 0.24 and covid 3.0
an r0 under 1 means it doesnt spread, and an r0 of 3 still means that the masks and social distancing has still done nothing other than spread out infections which it has done.
Where the NPCs are lying and full of shit is Masks and Social Distancing were NEVER about stopping grandma from getting sick they could NEVER do that, they were about making sure Grandma gets sick at a different time than someone elses grandma so they dont overwhele the hospitals as an r0 of 2 or 3 still means everyone and their fucking cat still gets it.
I wonder how many times the reverse happened in some form in years past, i.e. people with other viral respiratory infections being diagnosed with influenza instead. I wonder about the disparity between the CDC's estimate of tens of millions of flu cases yearly while positive laboratory tests reported to the CDC are far fewer (hundeds of thousands). I can see millions of mild cases going untested and/or undiagnosed due to the sick person not bothering with visiting a medical facility. Are there millions of positive flu tests that don't get reported?
Also keep in mind due to warmer weather we haven't hit peak flu season. I strongly recommend everyone here to grab a flu shot. In most cases they are free!
Funny thing, Sweden did NOT lock down the country on did spot lock downs like senior citizen centers and the like and they are actually below the bell curve with covid... besides in march I figure all of this will go away once the vaccines start to hit the general public...
So guys I live in the UK, and I just saw a glance of a TV advert about Corona virus that said "is Covid racist?". I burst out laughing and I'm still laughing. Absolutely fucking over the hysteria over this virus. I'm just done.
UK pede here. Yeah It fucking sucks right now. Fuck the BBC for their commie propaganda. Look at the mooslimes infiltrating our media making fun out of our white natives every day. I can’t wait to fucking leave this shit hole next year! Fuck this retarded lockdown.
I literally had this exact conversation with some local libs on the neighborhood facebook. poor boy, he tried to boggle around for an answer or explanation... honestly, it was embarrassing.
Better still, people have been doing this shit since March only to hear cases have continued to rise. Every time I ask an NPC why if all this mask/social distancing/shutdown crap works, how come it's done nothing in the last nine months, I'm met with silence or insults.
So I actually sift through Flu numbers on a regular basis, the two big contributors to our low flu numbers are the early shutdown of schools this year and the modified resumption in hybrid virtual form in a lot of states.
Schools are an absolutely digusting viral vector.
The only place worse is supermarkets.
And these are the two sacred cows the dems aren't going after.
Both are fairly low. It's expected in the winter for flu and virus cases to peak. It's literally what happens every year. That's why we call it flu season.
According to the CDC, smoking is directly responsible for 480,000 deaths per year in the United states, including 41,000 from secondhand smoke exposure.
Worldwide, smoking is responsible for 7,000,000 deaths per year.
As of the time of this post 262,754 people have died from COVID19 in the United States, and 1,396,436 worldwide.
My question is this: Why are we destroying our economy and embracing tyranny for something less deadly than smoking tobacco, which has been commonplace in the United States and around the world for over a century?
I fear for this country if the average citizen can’t even see through this obvious bullshit.
1 in 5 drivers near my work are wearing masks by themselves in their own car driving down the road. Can't make this shit up.
We found something better to pick them out!
Blue hair and face metal wasn't enough.
face metal
lmao
Bruh
You mean to say "they" are?
Not just idiots, they are beyonce idocacy. If things got bad like Germany (police arresting people with no warant or due process), or South Australia (where you can't leave the house to walk the dog and oh five people died from it THIS YEAR), then you spotted a potential dangerous enemy.
People like this have moved from idiots to dangerous.
Remember this, they will sell you and the country down in a split second.
Notice that in Australia they took their guns away first.
Yup! That’s it right there.
Excellent point!
1 in 5. Well, Biden got 20% of the true presidential vote so that checks out.
HAHAH yes
Underrated comment.
I notice solo drivers with masks often. I saw a runner—fit young man—with a mask the other day. Many lone bikers with masks. A man walking his dog alone with a KN95. It’s not getting any less bizarre
I've been shaking my head at people so much I have my chiropractor on speed dial.
🤣😂🤣
Absolutely. When there is an absence of shaming, slut walks, sex positivity and the celebration of obesity proliferate. Call these retards out.
My friend encountered the opposite. She was jogging by herself and some asshole yelled out of a car, ”Wear your mask bitch!” She’s really non confrontational, so sadly she now just wears a mask every time she goes outside because she don’t want to be hassled.
Laugh them into oblivion!
Yep, I see this every single day. It is sad that the biggest pay op in modern history is actually working with these morons
I'm no expert, but isn't that how PsyOps work?
I mean I wore a gaiter style face mask while running the other day but only because it was 20 something degrees out. Runners did wear face masks before COVID. But mostly for the reasons that skiers do.
Yeah, the sad thing is now if I want to run in the winter I either have to freeze or look like a retard mask wearer because these cocksuckers are all wearing stuff everywhere. Thankfully the year has been mild so far so it hasn’t been an issue, but still.
At least the mask retards will see your breath going right through it. And yet that fact flying right in their face won’t change their sheep minds.
What I'm thinking about trying-
"can I fart in front of your face?"
"No, wtf?"
"Well the mask should filter out everything, even as small as a virus. You wouldn't be able to tell anyways, right? Or are you afraid that something might get through?"
Point this out to every mask-wearer you see when it gets cold enough for that.
We've been wearing balaclavas for hundreds of years. That's wisdom.
We had a local wearing a mask in the car pass out due to lack of oxygen, crash and hurt people.
But it saved them from getting covid so all good
If we can save ONE life, it's worth doing! Non covid deaths are a different kind of death, not as important. Get with the program
Covid works in mysterious ways
That’s just so if he died the hospital could get some of that sweet sweet China Flu subsidy money and add another data point for the corrupt politicians to use to control us plebs.
Technically, it was. The moron wouldn't have been wearing it if his MSM/government overlords hadn't convinced him to hear the face diaper at all times or die.
This would probably also work where if some self-righteous mask Nazi got a broken nose because he mouthed off to the wrong person about not wearing a mask. Cause: Covid-related.
Yes, due to covid.
Anyone he killed could be attributed to Covid by degrees of separation rule.
If this whole shitshow goes down the tube, I expect I will die of Covid too (after being shot for objecting to all the Covid crap).
Exactly, due to covid.
A handful of commies who have no idea how happy they are making me, seeing that we're making an impact.
I don’t buy this because skiers and snowboarders have been wearing face masks while doing strenuous activity for always. And at high altitude, no less. Your brain also sends very obvious alarm bells when you’re inhaling carbon dioxide.
Not to say it isn’t still a retard move to wear a mask while driving alone in your car, I just don’t buy the story that people are passing out from it. What were they wearing as a mask, a plastic bag?
Athletes vs obese and unhealthy. Big difference.
Skiers and snowboarders can pull the mask down when needed, and do, with no repercussions.
And, they're not in a car with the windows closed, with exhaust potentially leaking into the cabin, and the heater on.
There's been several incidents around here of people passing out while shopping, wearing masks. CO2 buildup is real.
But someone driving around in their car by themselves....can't?
And didn't they only recently start needing the heater? I was hearing about people passing out in their cars over the summer too.
CO2 buildup is definitely real, but your brain alerts you to it. It's not like carbon monoxide. Hold your breath as long as you can and you'll see exactly what CO2 buildup feels like. I'm willing to bet you won't pass out.
Skiers and snowboarders wear gaiters that are designed to be breathable for high intensity sports. Regular people are wearing surgical masks and N95 masks. Like another commentator mentioned, many of them are probably out of shape and unhealthy. Not too unsurprising if it would at least make people light headed.
I wouldn't expect one of those paper surgical masks to keep my face warm, so I don't know how they could possibly restrict someone's breathing more than a gaiter. But then again the CDC says that gaiters aren't effective and just aerosolize the virus, so I don't know what the hell to believe really. I do know that drywall guys and woodworkers have been wearing filtered masks similar to N95s since way before COVID as well, and they don't seem to be passing out left and right.
Yeah, you're probably going to get downvoted but you're right. I don't really understand why we've gone so fucking hard on anti-mask bullshit. Government orders = bad. But it seems like it's not that big of a fucking deal for me to put something on when I enter a store or restaurant.
No it is a big fucking deal. It's that attitude of "oh it's just a piece of cloth on my face" that took us from 15 days to slow the spread to where we are today. We are WAAAYY past containing this virus. It's out. Locking us up or making us wear masks isn't going to cure it.
It’s because we refuse to be walking advertisements for fear
Masks don’t work: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BslFT9cKZwc
Masks will actually make you sick: https://www.newswars.com/masks-blamed-for-illnesses-and-hospital-visits-for-children/
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/mask-mouth-dentists-warn-prolonged-use-of-masks-leading-to-poor-oral-hygiene
Forced masking is wrong and perpetuates a false pandemic by making people sick for more false positives and so on.
If someone wants to wear one ok. If that makes you feel better, don’t force others. And I will wear a gaterneck when working in very cold weather or wind to keep my noise and ears warm, but I can breath. And I wash it, and only wear it for Keeping warm.
If you think for a second they're actually keeping anyone "safe" then answer two questions:
How come since the mask "mandates" have started the numbers of cases have continued to rise to the point where some jurisdictions are going back to levels of oppression we saw in March? Shouldn't it be the opposite?
How come we continue to see stories/videos leak of some of the most oppressive government officials gallivanting about at private gatherings and settings and violating their own mandates? It couldn't possibly be because they know the mandates are all a farce, right?
They claim that "nobody's wearing their masks so the numbers are going up," but that's false. The number of people who don't wear them are much, much, MUCH lower than those who do. So for the numbers to be what they claim (they probably aren't that high, either), it has to be the mask wearers getting sick (which, btw, there was that study posted here that said 85% of those infected were regular mask wearers).
I've heard the "nobody's wearing masks" argument but it's easily debunked. We all go out in public and see how many people are wearing them. To make the claim that "nobody's wearing them" is clearly a lie.
But you're right anyway about the 85% number. When you throw that back at them it kills all their arguments anyway.
Pretty insane.
Wear your mask when you walk into a restaurant but you can take it off when you sit down. Put it back on when you go to the bathroom. But you can take it off when you sit back down. Then put it on when you exit the restaurant.
Wear your mask between bites during Thanksgiving. Wear your mask while you're at the gym. Don't stand on the beach by yourself. You can walk along the beach but do not stop or sit. Protesting for BLM Inc. is important and celebrating Biden's media-appointed win is encouraged. Come on down to China Town. Why did Trump kill everyone? You can't go to your grandmother's funeral but celebrities can go to George "Fentanyl" Floyd's golden casket funeral, and the "civil rights icon" what's his name's funeral. Because they're better than citizens. The governor's husband can get on his boat during July 4 but not a lowly citizen. The anointed class can get their hair done but not a lowly citizen. Stay safe, flatten the curve, stay home. Covid patients belong in senior living centers. Don't you believe in science??
Or a nuthouse.
Make Asylums Great Again.
On the pitcher's mound, ready to make a ceremonial first pitch, with no one around you for 60 ft. Wear a mask.
Back in the stands with your buddies sitting shoulder to shoulder. No mask.
When you're on camera asking the president questions, wear a mask. When the president leaves and you think the cameras are off, you can take it off.
saving this for copy pasta
It’s the entire western world at this point
The failure of government mandated schooling systems all over the West, writ large.
Seriously. And reading about “medical professionals” who came out to say that protesting is an important exception because fighting racism is as important an issue as covid. Dafuq?
"'Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that."
Exactly this. My parents, who happily voted Trump, are under this same delusion. They said flu and colds are down (they haven't experienced them this year), but covid is up and terrifying. They also have not experienced covid since they're retired and just hiding in place in their home...
They stopped counting the flu, lol. They just count covid now 🤷🏻♀️
Since you can test positive for covid if you just have a normal cold, I’d imagine most cold cases are counted as covid.
Lmao I’m sitting here with a slightly stuffy nose and i was first like “ahh fuck, probably got covid and have to miss work for two weeks because of this bullshit”. Then i remembered there’s other sicknesses that exist, but all we ever hear about is covid.
That's odd. I've had the beginnings of a cold and my kid and my friend started getting sick (on separate occasions) and the first thing that came to my mind was a cold, not covid.
Yeah, i’m not worried about having covid, it’s just that covid has been hammered into our heads for 9 months and having to miss two weeks of work right now would suck, so that’s the first place my brain went, lol.
It’s true, you’re not the only one. Someone clears their throat, “covid?!” It’s like it’s the only disease there is anymore.
12 million cases in the US and counting.
You gots the 'rona! Yousa people gonna die!
I get allergies year-round. I have to constantly explain to people that I do NOT have covid, I just need some Flonase.
That's how this conversation started with my parents; I told them how it was noteworthy that they were going to stop counting flu cases. My parents were like "well yeah, so few cases with all social distancing, so it makes sense to stop counting flu cases".
I was livid but didn't show them my anger since they're just clueless and paranoid about covid, plus they hate liberals and vote the right way so my efforts are better served elsewhere.
You gotta call it out, give them cognitive dissonance. They may learn it still.
I had this same convo with a nurse friend. When they gave the same answer as your parents, I said ' it seems odd tho, after 24 years of the local CDC publishing their FluWatch memos with monthly flu cases- they only stopped in July of this year'.
She said, ' I didn't know there was such a thing as FluWatch Memos, but I can see why they stopped because there were no cases to report, so why bother.'
I didn't say a word, just showed her the 2020 March and June FluWatch Memos - CONFIRMED flu cases: +2200 in March and only 18 in May (the normal end-point for flu in our region).
I said, 'last year in May, there were 223 confirmed flu cases - pretty big drop, even for the end of the season. Is the hospital still testing for flu at all?'
She looked thoughtful, and then looked down and didn't answer.
Actually Flu Watch reports never stopped
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/pastreports.htm
Yeah look at the flu cases after covid hit. Non existent right now.
https://imgur.com/a/rUZKnct
That’s WHO, not CDC. Even in its worst year in the past 50 years, the flu killed 1/4 of what Covid has killed in the US.
And the WHO and CDC collaborate in their data. It says so in your link. Not saying they stopped reporting, but they are almost non existent.
No need to be livid. Just start cracking away at their reasoning, piece by piece. Don't even raise your voice because there is no need to.
I agree.
No one is going to stop flu cases. They are still going to get counted like every other disease every year.
I still can't believe this isn't a bigger deal. Like they just decided fuck it and they're not counting this year. Years from now there's gonna be a big ol gap in the data because they decided that the flu doesn't matter anymore. Why does that make any sense???
They are counting this year
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/pastreports.htm
Correct me if I'm wrong (cause i very well could be) but the way i read those reports are that they're lumping pneumonia, influenza, and covid into one statistic. In years past it's been just P&I. So it makes the data a whole lot less useful when trying to compare covid deaths to the others
Covid isn’t influenza so no, they are not lumping data together, as the numbers clearly show.
That’s what I’m worried about. No doubt I will get some type of the flu in the next month or so, but they will say it’s COVID and I’ll get to be treated like a leper.
Honestly, in my opinion, if you’re coming down with some kind of sickness, you shouldn’t bother getting a test unless it’s bad. Of course take off work/avoid people like normal, but I personally think everyone should stop getting tested in protest of the lockdowns.
That might sound crazy but hear me out. They’re basing lockdowns off of the number of cases, not severely ill/deaths. The test itself is oftentimes inaccurate. there’s a significant number of asymptomatic/incredibly minor cases, and 99.98% of people recover. That being said, why the hell would we lockdown entire states? Why are we essentially being punished?! And there’s no end in sight. Fuck this. Stop testing.
That’s the thing. I only go to the doctor when I feel I have real issue. If I call off sick for work they may force me to get tested out of their fear of COVID is my concern. Then I’ll get a false positive or straight up lied to about having it. Which will then further the nonsense agenda.
That's precisely how they keep this going through the spring.
Don't monitor for Influenza, but give everyone a faulty PCR test that is amplified 25% more than recommended to be a valid test so you get tons of false positives.
Gotta keep those "cases" numbers jacked up for another 6 months.
I think it's worst for the retirees. Old enough to worry about it, nothing to force them out of the house, still watch tv for the news... my mom is getting more and more paranoid.
Same. At least my mom has had a lot of yard work to keep her busy and physically active, but now with winter I'm concerned about her just being inside watching shitheads on the news.
TDW needs a slot on cable, even if it's just some Pede looking through the posts and commenting.
This would be a great podcast.
You should sneak in and block the MSM channels on their TV. Or put the child lock on them. It's basically there for exactly that reason: To keep people who shouldn't be seeing something from seeing it.
I definitely agree. My mom is there too. Granted, she's in her 70's and has some health problems already, so I understand it a little more since respiratory infections take a hard toll on her anyways, but.. when she starts going on about the general public not complying to orders and how she's watching cases rise everyday and getting more and more scared.. ugh. Feels bad man. And there's no reasoning with her or talking her out of it.
I have an 80 yr. Old maiden aunt. Super Catholic. She listens to Rush and gets all fired up and says "fuck all those fucking democrats!". Then has to say another rosary. She's not buying any of it. Now hates Fox ( except Hannity). You love to see it lol!
Will do!
They stay home and get more MSM programming. It's a circle of idiocy.
Show them the mortality rate this year for Sweden compared to past years! That was the final straw for my gf + her family and my parents who were somewhere in the middle with this whole plandemic, once they saw that they were like ... this is all bs. All refuse to get vaccinated over a common cold.
Spez: For context they're all on the Trump train too since I recruited them in 16 during the R primaries and after 4 years they're 110% aboard. They weren't acting like this plandemic is the plague nor that people who have had it are basically lepers now, which many of the normies around them were doing, but they were being cautious and most of them gave benefit of the doubt - so many are so afraid so it must be serious - now they know it's entirely about control.
Our region had 38,000 deaths to the end of October 2019 and only 32,000 to the end of October 2020. Lung/heart category was 6,000 in 2019 and 5000 in 2020.
How did 1000 FEWER people die in the Lung/Heart category in 2020 - if we have a lung-eating pandemic?
PRO TIP: go to the Coroners website NOT the Health Department, for the real numbers in your area.
Because people get out more and have less risks of heart attack.
Can you try this original post on them and report back? NPC Meme, Real Life Edition!
I've already hit a couple people with this. Their response will likely be the same most everyone else here will get: ThE rOnA iS mUcH mOaR cOnTaGiOuS tHoUgH!!
These pansies insist on staying terrified until mayors, governors, media, and Fauci tell them it's OK to have their rights and lives back.
Everywhere I go people are wearing masks, yet the cases have skyrocketed this fall and the npc's blame it on people not wearing masks. It just doesn't register with these idiots that cloth masks don't fucking work.
They think that they only work if everyone, 100% of the population, wears them. That if even 1 person fails to do so, then it causes massive huge uncontrollable spread and a surging explosion of cases. If literally one person out of 7 billion can ruin a whole plan then maybe it’s a shit plan.
^ Funny because true, and going in my Good Quotes folder
I've literally heard this very argument made on some local "wEaR yOuR mAsK" covid ad. "It only takes one person to mess it up for everyone!" No, that's not how it works FFS
They are right. All it takes is one person, just a single one to be a leader and convince everyone else that there is no need to fear covid.
If everyone wore N95 or N100 masks and sanitized their hands on a regular basis, this thing would be over in a month. Instead people walk around like a piece of cotton over their mouth and nose is going to protect them. If anything the false sense of security from inadequate “face coverings” is actually creating risk.
....Or that the case numbers are wildly off.
Literally the entire world medical community disagrees.
Literally NOT the entire world medical community disagrees. Get out if your bubble shill.
It does. CDC and WHO for example.
Can you name one medical organization that doesn’t?
Sweden's public health officals
Sweden public health officials never said masks don’t work. In fact they say that people should wear them when using crowded public transportation for example.
https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se/the-public-health-agency-of-sweden/communicable-disease-control/covid-19/
Yes they say in certain situations you may wear a mask but the overall stance is this:
"We do not currently recommend face masks in public settings since the scientific evidence around the effectiveness of face masks in combatting the spread of infection is unclear."
This is crowded public transportation in Sweden right now btw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JajotjPChl0
Kek
there not testing flu at my hospital, dey want that fat govt covid check
Dey need more money for dem gobbermen programs
gibs!
Hahahaha...
That's b/c everything is now covid!
Gosh, this is good to send everyone, LOL!!!
How on earth do I get through to people who think if it isn't on cnn or nyt then it's fake news?
CDC stopped tracking it entirely.
Thats fake news. A month or so ago someone posted a screenshot that made the rounds where they said they weren't tracking. It was out of context iirc because I read the full page it was on. Even if I was mistaken and it wasn't out of context, the fact is they are still tracking it this season. https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm
It is not fake news. The CDC has stated that they have "suspend[ed] data collection for the 2020-21 influenza season." https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/overview.htm
It's misunderstood news. Your link says that, but you also cut off the context. "Due to the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic, this system will suspend data collection for the 2020-21 influenza season. Data from previous seasons are available on FluView Interactive." They're not saying all systems will suspend data collection, only the "State and Territorial Epidemiologists Report," which is #3 on your link. They still have the systems specified in #1, 2, 4, and 5 that are collecting data for the 20-21 season and that is why u/Racerspuff is correct and that's why there is data on their website at the link they provided.
Then where are they getting data to fill the maps and reports on this page: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/fluactivitysurv.htm Your link may say something to that effect, as I said above, but the reality is they are collecting data.
If the masks work, why did things close?
If masks work, why do we have to stand 6 feet apart.
If masks work, why is capacity limited?
Oh right, they don't work.
Simple : because masks don’t protect at 100% and that’s why there are several measures in place that each decrease the risk of catching and transmitting the virus.
With your same non-reasoning you could say : if washing hands works, why standing 6 feet apart?
Baffling that almost a year into this pandemic, some people still don’t get the very basics on how viruses work. Sad.
Lol at the fag in this thread down voting every post
Got 'em!!! Lol I keep asking people: Where's the Flu!?
President Trump cures the flu in his first of three terms!
It really is pathetic.
I haven't worn a mask since April, maybe May. Only one place has tried to enforce it, the Taylor's by my house, last week. Guy pointed to a tub they had at the door of masks, said I needed one and could take one of those. I turned around and walked out. Went to Home Depot instead. Fuck em.
I don't wear masks outside on the sidewalk or in parks, but if a store requires masks and I need something from them, I wear it. You know why? If a store doesn't wanna bake a cake they don't have to, if they don't want people in without masks, they can choose too.
At least be consistent. You can't walk in without a shirt and shoes in some places, but you still have the freedom to do what you want outside of private businesses.
Yes. I don't agree that the governor has the right to set the rules for the store. I live in a state with an oppressive communist governor, he's a gigantic cockroach.
Regardless, if there's a sign up saying the store wants you to wear the mask, I oblige. I see those videos of the screaming Karens arguing with the store owners to "own the employees" and I think they're as stupid as libs. I have no problem if you want to do that because you're unsure of the store's policy, and will go without a ruckus if they do want to enforce the policy.
I wouldn't say in 95% of the cases they aren't the stores rules. However misguided, the store owner might think they're protecting their employee's and their health. I know a dude with a disorder that compromises his immune system, but he has to work so he really wants people to wear the masks. I don't know if the masks actually help, but he has that right in his business.
This is an inaccurate example. After being caught in a contradiction, the NPC will simply blame Trump.
It's almost like CoViD has many similarities to a cold.
It’s almost like the China Flu is just an overly advertised and hyped up flu.
The 1968 flu killed 100,000 people over a span of one year and a half, from July 1969 to Winter 69/70. Covid is set to kill about 4 times as much in the US in the same time span. And that’s with mask wearing among other measures. That’s the difference for you.
Hahaha. Compare the categories. 1968 was a completely different beast. First, they didn't hide their statistics depending on their political goals back then. They also didn't stuff care facilities or abuse the elderly on a mass scale because of that season's flu. On top of that, there's the incentive for deaths now.
And this is a cold, not a flu.
No one is hiding the data. More than 250,000 deaths in the US only and counting.
I'm not even going to address your clueless reply.
Since you have a number, you will need to cross reference columns specifying "deaths from," "comorbidities," and additionally the columns for various other deadly diseases and community mortality. If you refuse, you won't like the graph I'm now working on (thanks for the assist on the idea!) You might even force yourself to look the other way.
I don’t need to do such thing. CDC says there are more than 250,000 deaths of COVID and between what the CDC says and what you say, I trust the CDC.
The CDC doesn't report the data that we need to be properly informed and they contradict themselves way too often. You'd be better informed flipping a coin.
Say it with me, Masks Do Not Work
Idk, they work pretty well for pointing out cucks. Like the ones who drive in their car, by themselves, with their diaper on.
Well, apart from that kek
All you have to do is look at Europe... masks, lock downs, nothing has slowed this virus down and nothing will until we get herd immunity, if we can... how can a piece of cloth with 10 micron holes catch a virus which is .3 microns big, might as well be trying to stop mosquitoes with a barbed wire fence.
I have said from the beginning that I don't think they ever will get a hang on this thing. COVID-19 as it is called is only one of dozens of different coronaviruses that have been circulating throughout the world for hundreds of years. It just so happened to break out as a more virulent strain.
It will sound heartless to say but 250k dead in one year from it is really not that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things. They should have treated this thing like every other flu we have had. Sucks to get it, take precautions if you have a preexisting condition or a weaker immune system, and stay home if you're actually sick.
Just to add some science to this the Flu has an r0 of 1.24 Wuhan Flu (Pre Lockdows) had an r0 of 4.0
The stay at home orders and cloth masks COULD (not saying they do) reduce the transmissibility of Coronaviruses by 1. Such that the r0 of Flu this season is something like 0.24 and covid 3.0
an r0 under 1 means it doesnt spread, and an r0 of 3 still means that the masks and social distancing has still done nothing other than spread out infections which it has done.
Where the NPCs are lying and full of shit is Masks and Social Distancing were NEVER about stopping grandma from getting sick they could NEVER do that, they were about making sure Grandma gets sick at a different time than someone elses grandma so they dont overwhele the hospitals as an r0 of 2 or 3 still means everyone and their fucking cat still gets it.
but recently they say covid19 status is "critical" / "red"
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It's also possible the flu is being misdiagnosed as covid. (source) Trained Medical Physician.
I wonder how many times the reverse happened in some form in years past, i.e. people with other viral respiratory infections being diagnosed with influenza instead. I wonder about the disparity between the CDC's estimate of tens of millions of flu cases yearly while positive laboratory tests reported to the CDC are far fewer (hundeds of thousands). I can see millions of mild cases going untested and/or undiagnosed due to the sick person not bothering with visiting a medical facility. Are there millions of positive flu tests that don't get reported?
Also keep in mind due to warmer weather we haven't hit peak flu season. I strongly recommend everyone here to grab a flu shot. In most cases they are free!
Where can we see current flu numbers compared to same time in previous years? Any good graphs?
Funny thing, Sweden did NOT lock down the country on did spot lock downs like senior citizen centers and the like and they are actually below the bell curve with covid... besides in march I figure all of this will go away once the vaccines start to hit the general public...
I'm starting to believe more and more that COVID is just this years strain of the flu hijacked by media nutjobs and commie wannabes
So guys I live in the UK, and I just saw a glance of a TV advert about Corona virus that said "is Covid racist?". I burst out laughing and I'm still laughing. Absolutely fucking over the hysteria over this virus. I'm just done.
UK pede here. Yeah It fucking sucks right now. Fuck the BBC for their commie propaganda. Look at the mooslimes infiltrating our media making fun out of our white natives every day. I can’t wait to fucking leave this shit hole next year! Fuck this retarded lockdown.
I literally had this exact conversation with some local libs on the neighborhood facebook. poor boy, he tried to boggle around for an answer or explanation... honestly, it was embarrassing.
stop making sense
Fucking smooth brains
Last frame: "Racist!"
The greatest thing Trump can do right now is to have another rally and declare that no masks are allowed. Make the lefties heads all explode.
Or maybe the 250k dead combines flu, pneumonia, covid like the CDC says and it's a normal year.
HAHA so true
This is way too accurate
DEEP Fried
This is a good point.
Needs to add smoke coming off the top of the head.
Good to throw out there at the commies, doesn't really make sense as proof but it's abit of a curveball. Keep them battling phantoms and the like.
Better still, people have been doing this shit since March only to hear cases have continued to rise. Every time I ask an NPC why if all this mask/social distancing/shutdown crap works, how come it's done nothing in the last nine months, I'm met with silence or insults.
It’s a lot scarier for people to accept that this is mostly hype.
So I actually sift through Flu numbers on a regular basis, the two big contributors to our low flu numbers are the early shutdown of schools this year and the modified resumption in hybrid virtual form in a lot of states.
Schools are an absolutely digusting viral vector.
The only place worse is supermarkets.
And these are the two sacred cows the dems aren't going after.
"It's not as bad as it could have been. Reeeeeeee!"
Both are fairly low. It's expected in the winter for flu and virus cases to peak. It's literally what happens every year. That's why we call it flu season.
Not low. Flu is eradicated. Per the WHO
https://thedonald.win/p/11QRamXeQJ/quick-question--why-is-nobody-ce/c/
The leftist shill disinfo is relentless at this point in time.
MASKS R 4 SLAVES.
According to the CDC, smoking is directly responsible for 480,000 deaths per year in the United states, including 41,000 from secondhand smoke exposure.
See the "fast facts" from the CDC website directly: https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/fast_facts/index.htm#:~:text=Cigarette%20smoking%20is%20responsible%20for,or%201%2C300%20deaths%20every%20day.&text=On%20average%2C%20smokers%20die%2010%20years%20earlier%20than%20nonsmokers.
Worldwide, smoking is responsible for 7,000,000 deaths per year.
As of the time of this post 262,754 people have died from COVID19 in the United States, and 1,396,436 worldwide.
My question is this: Why are we destroying our economy and embracing tyranny for something less deadly than smoking tobacco, which has been commonplace in the United States and around the world for over a century?
FYI, deaths from "secondhand smoke exposure" is based on statistical bullshit.
C'mon man! I got a whiff from a cigar last week and nearly dropped dead!
The flu doesn’t exist this year... funny how that works. Love the meme. You so nailed it. Thanks for the laugh!