All this is going to do is make people doubt the Holocaust. If people see a shrine to an overdose death in a museum, next thing they think is "what really happened during the Holocaust?"
It’s really hard to not end up on some neo-nazi stormfront bullshit. Use DuckDuckGo for sure.
Forced labor camps existed. Mass extermination was not the plan. Someone on here sent me a video where a man went through about 10 newspapers from the beginning of the century where they kept using that 6 million number.
If they really wanted to commit a genocide they would have just shot them on the spot. Not wasted incredible resources during a world war to house, feed clothe etc
Zyklon-b was used to save lives from typhus. Not gas them to death
I’m sure they did. Not disputing that. Not disputing the camps. Just disputing that 6 million did not die. It’s literally impossible to do so in the way they claimed. We’ve been force fed this lie our entire lives it’s a massive redpill to take. The death toll is closer to 300k which died of typhus and starvation. Mostly at the end when German supply lines broke down and they could no longer keep them healthy.
Yad Vashem has documented at least 4 million Jews who were killed, with names, pictures, and other documents - and they're still collecting information. That includes my relatives. The Jewish community in Poland was completely decimated, and there were 3 million Jews living there before the war. Another more than 2 million were killed on the territory of what was then the Soviet Union, and they were killed right where they lived and buried, mostly by shooting, but other means were used too. All of it is documented. And there were, of course, Jews in other countries, such as Hungary.
Diesel engine exhaust is barely harmful, even in high concentrations. Diesel fumes, while appearing dirtier than petrol, contains less Carbon Monoxide (presumably the lethal agent).
Use your noggin; why waste fuel (when there's a war on) when you can just hood, then hang the prisoners you want to execute?
If you fill a room completely with people, pump it full of diesel engine exhaust and wait a certain time, they will all die. It took about 20 minutes, a slow and horrible death. But I guess you hate Jews so much that you won't accept any reasoning.
If you’re familiar with the Frank family from the Diary of Anne Frank....
None of the family or friends were executed or gassed. The one that died were killed by a typhus outbreak. The father Otto Frank survived the war and became very wealthy talking about it. There are doubts the Diary itself is even authentic.
The camps Patton liberated were just prison camps with swimming pools, libraries, theaters, and medical facilities. Go figure the only death camps that were “found” were found by the Soviets and we took their word for it.
The main point is the 6 million number. It was just a random guess that came out of the Nuremberg trials. Didnt help that all the death camps were seized by the Russians. So it was shrouded in secrecy until the USSR collapsed. When it did the West got a look at the records. Auschwitz, the "main camp" had meticulous records. They only showed 900,000 Jews died. So by modern estimates, the real number is somewhere between 1.5 to 2.5 million max.
Not sure what the big fuss is over correcting the figures. Wasn't the total death toll from WWII like 80 million? Alot of innocent people died due to socialism and imperialism. I have always thought to much significance was put on the Jewish death toll. Germany, Russia, and Japan using their youth as cannon fodder is horrific as well. Especially Russia. 40 million dead. Pure evil.
It’s the same reason they were kicked out of every country they tried to inhabit. Their banking and financial practices destroyed economies and made them rich all while playing victim.
The real Holocaust was the millions of German POWs that were starved to death in tent cities exposed to the elements. All done the approval of the allies.
They never talk about all the death that happened after the war particularly about what the Russians did, the toll on the civilian population was catastrophic. They held everyone responsible, it's no wonder really that all the smart Germans emigrated to Argentina.
Right? I 100% do not support the GF narrative...I had no question to the holocaust’s legitimacy...now...where does the agenda begin and end? Why did they tie those together? Who is in control of said museum? What in the actual fuck were they thinking?!
How to rewrite history 101. A student in the class raises his hand to ask the teacher what the Holocaust was about. The teacher replies, George Floyd you can go down to the museum and see for yourself the evils that America has done.
It's an extension to critical race Theory
Because when a state sets up an assembly line to kill non combatants including women and children, it is fucking sick and beyond any remote conventions of war. And it was not done to gain land, but to actually wipe out a race.
This is part of the conditioning technique. Focus on what you know to be truth, and bide your time for the moment to escape the commie prison. If you don't, the overload will eventually lead to withdrawal and acceptance.
They turned patriot soldiers into sleeper agents with these methods, they can break a population if people don't hold to something they know to be true. It's why they hate religion so much.
I don't like the Holocaust focus by the western world because it is 99% political and either ignores or obscurs that vast majority of atrocities throughout the war and also utterly distorts how extreme the genocidal agenda of the Nazi regime was.
They had dozens of ethnicity on their extermination list.
Most people, first and only thing they learn about why Nazis were bad - 'they killed 6 million Jews'
...They also killed 19+ million civilians in Soviet Union alone. (This does not include 8.6 military casualties Soviets suffered in that war).
There are many other identity groups across Europe that suffered just as heavily if not more than Jews - but you know... remembering extermination of those dirty gypsies or commie eastern europeans is not as politically useful when it comes to making the western populations shut the fuck up when they start to getting uppity about where their tax money is going.
Also how hitler supposedly believed he could get away with killing Jews. He said something like no one remembers the Armenians.
Kinda ironic along with the US, Israel is one of the only other western nations that doesn't recognize Armenian genocide. So as a courtesy in return I do not recognize the "Holocaust" whatever that is.
You're correct. Roma, "Communists" (air quote around that one, was used rather liberally to describe enemies of the regime), the mentally handicapped, etc...
All the shit with guns and privacy and big government and globalism (the new nationalism) is exactly why we need to pay attention to what happened in Germany. Fuck even the way kids are being programmed in school. We absolutely are seeing the modern day, more sneaky, version of what went on.
Yeah you don't get gassed, but they want your guns, they will turn your kids against you and turn your kid into the opposite sex and ruin your career for supporting Trump and take away your standing on the internet etc.
What we're seeing right now is more akin to the brainwashing and economic devastation during the Weimar Republic days. People forget that Gemans didn't just wake up one day and start hating jres, communists, gays, and whoever else. It was easy to make them hate because they were oppressed and exploited by the same people who played the victim whenever they were called out.
Even pointing out that the Holocaust targeted large swaths of non-jews (particularly Slavs) as well as pointing out that even the questionable numbers still don't put the Holocaust near the top of the worst genocides of the 20th century (hi there multiple Communist purges) will get your tabled a Nazi.
That's why you can't care about what "they" label you as.
They have spent 4+ years calling even the most normie middle of the road repub and trump supporter: nazis, white supremacist, racist, anti-gay, misogynist, etc...
The holocaust was about rounding up communists and because it’s communists who write the history books they portray it as motivated by racism and sexism and homophobia the same way they portray their opposition today.
So why do the Nazi internal documents also describe this stuff? Why do we have internal documents in which they debate the merits of locking men, women and children into barns and lighting them on fire as a means of extermination?
Or the one with the eagle and the German Sheppard. Where they taught a dog to chew a mans testicles off and then put him in a cage with an eagle who picks the meat off his bones. That fucking story was in the newspaper in the 80s.
man reading what germany was like right before the nazis was eye opening. the nazis were fucked up by every metric but so was germany before them. like people selling their kids marquis de sadde fucked up.
And yet history totally ignores that part. The US version of WW2 reads exactly like the meme "and then one day for no reason Hitler came to power." You'd think people would be interested in the WHY a nation would choose Hitler.
He wanted to take over Europe and wipe out all Jews within at least that area. Not only Jews, but all untermenschen, undesirable races, particularly slavs, poles and gypsies. I don't think he always had that goal, I don't know, but I suspect his goal at first was merely to remake Germany, and once he succeeded at taking power his ambition just kept growing until it became his, and his nation's undoing.
People need to see that the Nazis and their enemies was not really a good vs evil situation, it was an evil vs evil situation.
Someone put ‘vsco girls’ into the article at that point In time to be funny. Not that I mind Wikipedia being trolled, but it DOES make it hard to take the version of the article from that date seriously.
Too much talk about WWI might open peoples eyes to the Ottoman Empire. If that happened they might question why their descendants have exterminated all non-believers in their borders and fully infiltrated every western country with fighting age men.
well ive always wondered why did people hate the jews even before hitler you had like jewish ghettos in medival cities and napoleon offering them amnesty etc.
That's because U.S. history textbooks are written by lefties. IDK what they look like now, but I know what they looked like decades ago, and even then those history textbooks had a very heavy lefty lean to them.
Exactly, except I'd also throw in the general degeneracy of the Weimar Republic that would make the librarians pushing tranny story hour blush.
So lets see, if Hitler sucks, and you'd really like to avoid another Hitler, MAYBE using a fucking flu to cause crippling economic depression, widespread poverty, and desperation all while shoving the most degenerate shit in children's faces would be something to avoid.
Sure, but there's a big difference between a political system that runs things for the good of most of the people in the country and one that exploits its own people to benefit the ruling class. While I much prefer freedom and capitalism to authoritarianism and central planning, I'll take central planning that aims to help the people who built the nation over central planning that aims to help parasites and perpetual victims.
So the baby mills, proxy weddings, and maps of brothels given to soldiers by the Wehrmacht were not degenerate? How about the Nazi plan to wipe out Germany's Christian faith? The Nazi leadership are very clear in their internal memos that they planned to eliminate all forms of Christianity and replace it with a godless, manufactured, state-sponsered religion. They were NOT good.
The Nazis were pure evil. They used the offenses of the Weimar as their justification, and then they abandoned God altogether. They glorified cruelty and death. They were satanic, that's why Himmler's little neo-pagan religious cult fit right in.
Jew here (and the grandson of a Holocaust survivor to boot). My blood is boiling. It has been for years, ever since certain types started cavalierly redefining the word Nazi to mean “anybody who I don’t like/anybody who so much as raises an eyebrow at what I’m doing no matter how radical or insane,” but this is just beyond the pale.
Yeah, people complaining about the elite jews (bankers, Fed chairs, media people, pedo sex trafficking blackmailers, etc.) don't usually give a fuck about your typical working or middle class jew. They just want to end the systemic jewish privileges that oppress the rest of us.
It isn't an exaggeration. Rudolph Hoess, the guy who ran Auschwitz, stated in court that he thought two million people had been killed at that site alone. The Nazi leadership planned it all out and were very clear about their intentions, though they lied to the German public. The fact that the Holocaust is being used for dramatic effect today has everything to do with modern political BS and nothing to do with history.
This is correct. The Holocaust happened, and it was as bad as they say. Rudolph Hoess, the guy who ran Auschwitz, estimated 2 million were killed at that site alone, but he was not permitted by Nazi leadership to keep records because the exterminations were kept from the public. Much discourse about how to hide the killings went on behind the scenes.
However, it is also being exploited today for sympathy, drama, and money by people who were not in it.
Every single Jew who has any ties at all to the German Holocaust should be phoning that museum and absolutely tearing a strip off those people who decided that this is appropriate. That flagrant trivialization of the nazi Holocaust should not be tolerated, and every person who aided or abetted this should be humiliated. Shame on you!
Who knew that 6 million Jews committed home invasions while putting their gun on a pregnant woman's stomach like Floyd did? We live in an insane world.
No. The Nazi leadership thought it was real enough. Read Rudolph Hoess' IMT testimony, or the Nazis' internal memos about how to massacre people without getting caught.
However, it is being exploited today for attention and money, and this George Floyd thing is dumb. But remember, these are leftists. They are treating the Holocaust the same way they treat the rest of history: destroying it and remaking it into something more politically expedient.
Non Jew here. The Holocaust should never be forgotten. There were many identity groups besides Jews that were slaughtered by the Nazis, however the Jews were target #1. And while the victims of communism were more numerous than Hitler's victims, it isn't an either-or. We should never forget any of these obscene acts of depravity, and govern our nations accordingly.
This is true as well. Talked to a couple of other pedes about it. Either way, the Holocaust is one of the prime examples of leftist evil, it should embolden us as we continue to support the MAGA movement.
wasnt there some kind of schismatic bent to it if i remember? like i remember it almost wiped out the jews that treated the kaballah as an authentic doccument
Please see my reply to this guy. The Holocaust was no lie, unless you can demonstrate that the Nazi leadership would falsely admit in court to having done these things (not to mention leaving behind ample internal memos). Hoess describes gas chambers as do many witnesses. He gives 2 million as the death count at Auschwitz/Birkenau alone.
Use DuckDuckGo and search Holocaust box or Holocaust was a lie. It’s just not possible in the way it was described. 6 million we’re not executed nor were they planned to be.
Enough with your copypasta. People can be easily tortured to say whatever you want them to. 2 million people did not die at Auschwitz and 6 million we’re not exterminated.
Note that the most likely reliable estimates, giving a range of 4-6 million, are based on a similar number of people simply disappearing from the global Jewish population. You are free to debate the estimate.
However, Himmler noted that this was too stressful (emotionally) on his men. So he sought for a more "hands off" and efficient method. In Poland there were discussions about shutting people into barns and setting them on fire. I think that may be in the same link above but not sure. However, they thought it was too easy to get caught doing this.
So now we come to testimonies. Since you do not accept Hoess' testimony, here are others.
This man says people unfit for labor were put into a barn, called the "white house," and gas cans were thrown in through flaps. After, the people were taken, dead and half-alive, and cremated: https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=54393
This fellow was at the site during the buildup of Birkenau, and saw the bodies being stacked (which happened when there became too many dead to hide from the inmates), and describes the selection process and what was known of the gas chambers. He also describes a variety of other torments and summary killings:
https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=51879
This man actually witnessed the gas tins being thrown into the chambers through windows, which I assume correspond to the "flaps" in one of the previous accounts, and which aligns, as far as I can tell, with the other accounts: https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=63077
Unless those in charge specifically wanted to start what has happened since, why would they release the first video edited in the way it was? Shapiro keeps saying politic is more Veep than House of Cards. But this shit is pure House of Cards.
Who knew that 6 million Jews were high on fentanyl?
Yep.
All this is going to do is make people doubt the Holocaust. If people see a shrine to an overdose death in a museum, next thing they think is "what really happened during the Holocaust?"
"Hey Tone..."
Well the Holocaust happened but certain details and things were greatly exaggerated for effect, much like George Floyd situation.
Very much happened but the devil is in the details
Does anyone have a link to something that cuts through some lies/misunderstandings about the Holocaust without going off the rails?
It’s really hard to not end up on some neo-nazi stormfront bullshit. Use DuckDuckGo for sure. Forced labor camps existed. Mass extermination was not the plan. Someone on here sent me a video where a man went through about 10 newspapers from the beginning of the century where they kept using that 6 million number. If they really wanted to commit a genocide they would have just shot them on the spot. Not wasted incredible resources during a world war to house, feed clothe etc
Zyklon-b was used to save lives from typhus. Not gas them to death
They shot many Jews on the spot. Here is one example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babi_Yar
Also, in Treblinka they didn't use Zyklon-b. They used diesel engine exhaust.
I’m sure they did. Not disputing that. Not disputing the camps. Just disputing that 6 million did not die. It’s literally impossible to do so in the way they claimed. We’ve been force fed this lie our entire lives it’s a massive redpill to take. The death toll is closer to 300k which died of typhus and starvation. Mostly at the end when German supply lines broke down and they could no longer keep them healthy.
Yad Vashem has documented at least 4 million Jews who were killed, with names, pictures, and other documents - and they're still collecting information. That includes my relatives. The Jewish community in Poland was completely decimated, and there were 3 million Jews living there before the war. Another more than 2 million were killed on the territory of what was then the Soviet Union, and they were killed right where they lived and buried, mostly by shooting, but other means were used too. All of it is documented. And there were, of course, Jews in other countries, such as Hungary.
Diesel engine exhaust is barely harmful, even in high concentrations. Diesel fumes, while appearing dirtier than petrol, contains less Carbon Monoxide (presumably the lethal agent).
Use your noggin; why waste fuel (when there's a war on) when you can just hood, then hang the prisoners you want to execute?
The diesel engine testimony is nonsense.
If you fill a room completely with people, pump it full of diesel engine exhaust and wait a certain time, they will all die. It took about 20 minutes, a slow and horrible death. But I guess you hate Jews so much that you won't accept any reasoning.
They made a calculation about the cost of bullets, and decided gas chambers would be cheaper. And they did kill them, by the millions.
If you’re familiar with the Frank family from the Diary of Anne Frank....
None of the family or friends were executed or gassed. The one that died were killed by a typhus outbreak. The father Otto Frank survived the war and became very wealthy talking about it. There are doubts the Diary itself is even authentic.
The camps Patton liberated were just prison camps with swimming pools, libraries, theaters, and medical facilities. Go figure the only death camps that were “found” were found by the Soviets and we took their word for it.
Also curious how the Red Cross was on site. In every camp. Literally looking for human rights violations.
The main point is the 6 million number. It was just a random guess that came out of the Nuremberg trials. Didnt help that all the death camps were seized by the Russians. So it was shrouded in secrecy until the USSR collapsed. When it did the West got a look at the records. Auschwitz, the "main camp" had meticulous records. They only showed 900,000 Jews died. So by modern estimates, the real number is somewhere between 1.5 to 2.5 million max.
Not sure what the big fuss is over correcting the figures. Wasn't the total death toll from WWII like 80 million? Alot of innocent people died due to socialism and imperialism. I have always thought to much significance was put on the Jewish death toll. Germany, Russia, and Japan using their youth as cannon fodder is horrific as well. Especially Russia. 40 million dead. Pure evil.
The fuss over correcting the number is that the nation state of Israel is supported by many people based upon collective guilt over the Holocaust.
No Holocaust, no Israel.
It’s the same reason they were kicked out of every country they tried to inhabit. Their banking and financial practices destroyed economies and made them rich all while playing victim.
The real Holocaust was the millions of German POWs that were starved to death in tent cities exposed to the elements. All done the approval of the allies.
They never talk about all the death that happened after the war particularly about what the Russians did, the toll on the civilian population was catastrophic. They held everyone responsible, it's no wonder really that all the smart Germans emigrated to Argentina.
Maybe they should be asking that question.
Took the thoughts right out of my head. lol
Right? I 100% do not support the GF narrative...I had no question to the holocaust’s legitimacy...now...where does the agenda begin and end? Why did they tie those together? Who is in control of said museum? What in the actual fuck were they thinking?!
Bruh, didn't you know? Zyklon-B is literally the same thing as Fentanyl.
You owe me the coffee I spit out.
For what it’s worth, they were also resisting arrest..../s
Death of fFntanyl Floyd = holocaust.
How to rewrite history 101. A student in the class raises his hand to ask the teacher what the Holocaust was about. The teacher replies, George Floyd you can go down to the museum and see for yourself the evils that America has done. It's an extension to critical race Theory
Wtf is this shit? Debate over how many millions were murdered in cold blood = the holocaust isn't real?
Enough American history is being wiped out without retards saying there was no holocaust.
Because when a state sets up an assembly line to kill non combatants including women and children, it is fucking sick and beyond any remote conventions of war. And it was not done to gain land, but to actually wipe out a race.
In a war full of inhumanity it stands out.
Get over it.
This is part of the conditioning technique. Focus on what you know to be truth, and bide your time for the moment to escape the commie prison. If you don't, the overload will eventually lead to withdrawal and acceptance.
They turned patriot soldiers into sleeper agents with these methods, they can break a population if people don't hold to something they know to be true. It's why they hate religion so much.
I don't like the Holocaust focus by the western world because it is 99% political and either ignores or obscurs that vast majority of atrocities throughout the war and also utterly distorts how extreme the genocidal agenda of the Nazi regime was.
They had dozens of ethnicity on their extermination list.
Most people, first and only thing they learn about why Nazis were bad - 'they killed 6 million Jews'
...They also killed 19+ million civilians in Soviet Union alone. (This does not include 8.6 military casualties Soviets suffered in that war).
There are many other identity groups across Europe that suffered just as heavily if not more than Jews - but you know... remembering extermination of those dirty gypsies or commie eastern europeans is not as politically useful when it comes to making the western populations shut the fuck up when they start to getting uppity about where their tax money is going.
man theres no big armenian genocide memora and thats where we got the word genocide.
Also how hitler supposedly believed he could get away with killing Jews. He said something like no one remembers the Armenians.
Kinda ironic along with the US, Israel is one of the only other western nations that doesn't recognize Armenian genocide. So as a courtesy in return I do not recognize the "Holocaust" whatever that is.
You're correct. Roma, "Communists" (air quote around that one, was used rather liberally to describe enemies of the regime), the mentally handicapped, etc...
I don't get this at all. America saved the day.
All the shit with guns and privacy and big government and globalism (the new nationalism) is exactly why we need to pay attention to what happened in Germany. Fuck even the way kids are being programmed in school. We absolutely are seeing the modern day, more sneaky, version of what went on.
Yeah you don't get gassed, but they want your guns, they will turn your kids against you and turn your kid into the opposite sex and ruin your career for supporting Trump and take away your standing on the internet etc.
What we're seeing right now is more akin to the brainwashing and economic devastation during the Weimar Republic days. People forget that Gemans didn't just wake up one day and start hating jres, communists, gays, and whoever else. It was easy to make them hate because they were oppressed and exploited by the same people who played the victim whenever they were called out.
You know it's a lie because they need to repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat...... Wizards casting a spell.
The HoloHaux is a lie.
Lmao. Fuck off back to Reddit. Put your little hat back on and go fuck some more kids.
The anti-free speech crowd came for the “holocaust deniers” first. There’s probably a reason for that..
Even pointing out that the Holocaust targeted large swaths of non-jews (particularly Slavs) as well as pointing out that even the questionable numbers still don't put the Holocaust near the top of the worst genocides of the 20th century (hi there multiple Communist purges) will get your tabled a Nazi.
And, it shouldn't. The Nazis hated Slavs just as much as my people.
That's why you can't care about what "they" label you as.
They have spent 4+ years calling even the most normie middle of the road repub and trump supporter: nazis, white supremacist, racist, anti-gay, misogynist, etc...
Stop caring what they call us
The holocaust was about rounding up communists and because it’s communists who write the history books they portray it as motivated by racism and sexism and homophobia the same way they portray their opposition today.
My grandfather was a paratrooper on d-day. Super proud of him.
So why did Rudolph Hoess, the guy who ran Auschwitz, say two million people were killed at that site?
So why do the Nazi internal documents also describe this stuff? Why do we have internal documents in which they debate the merits of locking men, women and children into barns and lighting them on fire as a means of extermination?
What about the masturbation machines?
Or the one with the eagle and the German Sheppard. Where they taught a dog to chew a mans testicles off and then put him in a cage with an eagle who picks the meat off his bones. That fucking story was in the newspaper in the 80s.
Also the Anti-Vaxer memes that were never funny but still aren't dead. Totally natural.
man reading what germany was like right before the nazis was eye opening. the nazis were fucked up by every metric but so was germany before them. like people selling their kids marquis de sadde fucked up.
And yet history totally ignores that part. The US version of WW2 reads exactly like the meme "and then one day for no reason Hitler came to power." You'd think people would be interested in the WHY a nation would choose Hitler.
He wanted to take over Europe and wipe out all Jews within at least that area. Not only Jews, but all untermenschen, undesirable races, particularly slavs, poles and gypsies. I don't think he always had that goal, I don't know, but I suspect his goal at first was merely to remake Germany, and once he succeeded at taking power his ambition just kept growing until it became his, and his nation's undoing.
People need to see that the Nazis and their enemies was not really a good vs evil situation, it was an evil vs evil situation.
Because people are inconsistent and will break their own rules when it is convenient. I'm not basing my opinion off hollywood, I'm basing it off this: https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=73796
Someone put ‘vsco girls’ into the article at that point In time to be funny. Not that I mind Wikipedia being trolled, but it DOES make it hard to take the version of the article from that date seriously.
We have the best reaction times
Too much talk about WWI might open peoples eyes to the Ottoman Empire. If that happened they might question why their descendants have exterminated all non-believers in their borders and fully infiltrated every western country with fighting age men.
byzantine empire 2 when?
When we retake Constantinople.
DEUS VULT
well ive always wondered why did people hate the jews even before hitler you had like jewish ghettos in medival cities and napoleon offering them amnesty etc.
That's because U.S. history textbooks are written by lefties. IDK what they look like now, but I know what they looked like decades ago, and even then those history textbooks had a very heavy lefty lean to them.
Exactly, except I'd also throw in the general degeneracy of the Weimar Republic that would make the librarians pushing tranny story hour blush.
So lets see, if Hitler sucks, and you'd really like to avoid another Hitler, MAYBE using a fucking flu to cause crippling economic depression, widespread poverty, and desperation all while shoving the most degenerate shit in children's faces would be something to avoid.
Lol all the neo-nazis in the country are all screaming “see I told you it was fake!”
I'll take actual nazis over blue hair sjw types.
How bad can they be since the libs say we're just like them?
I mean... If that's how it's going to be, I'll take the version of history that doesn't hate white males.
That's the secret of communism, everyone loves a dictator who agrees with them.
Oh there's definitely a lot of people who have been disloyal to the United States.
Sure, but there's a big difference between a political system that runs things for the good of most of the people in the country and one that exploits its own people to benefit the ruling class. While I much prefer freedom and capitalism to authoritarianism and central planning, I'll take central planning that aims to help the people who built the nation over central planning that aims to help parasites and perpetual victims.
Hey, at least we’re not speaking German!
So the baby mills, proxy weddings, and maps of brothels given to soldiers by the Wehrmacht were not degenerate? How about the Nazi plan to wipe out Germany's Christian faith? The Nazi leadership are very clear in their internal memos that they planned to eliminate all forms of Christianity and replace it with a godless, manufactured, state-sponsered religion. They were NOT good.
the execution was fucked up. weimar germany being fucked up doesnt make the nazis good guys by any metric.
The Nazis were pure evil. They used the offenses of the Weimar as their justification, and then they abandoned God altogether. They glorified cruelty and death. They were satanic, that's why Himmler's little neo-pagan religious cult fit right in.
basically what i was trying to say. two wrongs dont make a right.
Jew here (and the grandson of a Holocaust survivor to boot). My blood is boiling. It has been for years, ever since certain types started cavalierly redefining the word Nazi to mean “anybody who I don’t like/anybody who so much as raises an eyebrow at what I’m doing no matter how radical or insane,” but this is just beyond the pale.
Yeah, people complaining about the elite jews (bankers, Fed chairs, media people, pedo sex trafficking blackmailers, etc.) don't usually give a fuck about your typical working or middle class jew. They just want to end the systemic jewish privileges that oppress the rest of us.
It isn't an exaggeration. Rudolph Hoess, the guy who ran Auschwitz, stated in court that he thought two million people had been killed at that site alone. The Nazi leadership planned it all out and were very clear about their intentions, though they lied to the German public. The fact that the Holocaust is being used for dramatic effect today has everything to do with modern political BS and nothing to do with history.
Okay can we finally admit the Holocaust is nothing more than a propaganda cash cow?
Yes.
No.
This is correct. The Holocaust happened, and it was as bad as they say. Rudolph Hoess, the guy who ran Auschwitz, estimated 2 million were killed at that site alone, but he was not permitted by Nazi leadership to keep records because the exterminations were kept from the public. Much discourse about how to hide the killings went on behind the scenes.
However, it is also being exploited today for sympathy, drama, and money by people who were not in it.
Makes sense. One false flag junkie vs millions needlessly slaughtered. Almost exactly the same really.
Jewish folk exploiting Blacks to push a social utopianist line ?
Some things never change
so is it 6 gazillion and 1 now. Or likely 12 gazillion.
Remember the 60 gorillion George Floyds
666 gorillion!
Fucking disgrace.
A fucking drug dealing, counterfeit money passing, criminal? I honestly just give up.
Every single Jew who has any ties at all to the German Holocaust should be phoning that museum and absolutely tearing a strip off those people who decided that this is appropriate. That flagrant trivialization of the nazi Holocaust should not be tolerated, and every person who aided or abetted this should be humiliated. Shame on you!
The amount of irony and self ownership is immensely satisfying
I thought it was an onion news story but turned out real 🤡👌
Who knew that 6 million Jews committed home invasions while putting their gun on a pregnant woman's stomach like Floyd did? We live in an insane world.
Our Greatest Ally.
Cause of his nose, right?
HOLOHOAX
Muh 6 gorillion
Shouldn't you be calling him a commie?
Persuasion is something to be handled with a very delicate touch of nuance.
No. The Nazi leadership thought it was real enough. Read Rudolph Hoess' IMT testimony, or the Nazis' internal memos about how to massacre people without getting caught.
However, it is being exploited today for attention and money, and this George Floyd thing is dumb. But remember, these are leftists. They are treating the Holocaust the same way they treat the rest of history: destroying it and remaking it into something more politically expedient.
Jews are the original professional victims so why not?
Always has been.
Greatest lie ever told
That's racist.
One criminal overdosing in police custody now = the attempted extinction of an entire race.
Talk about Black privilege.
Seriously, has everyone lost their damn minds??
He OVERDOSED!!
“A” Holocaust museum, not “The” Holocaust museum. This is bad obviously, but I was worried this was the DC one.
He doesn't look druish.
Jew here, folks are beginning to forget...shame...
Non Jew here. The Holocaust should never be forgotten. There were many identity groups besides Jews that were slaughtered by the Nazis, however the Jews were target #1. And while the victims of communism were more numerous than Hitler's victims, it isn't an either-or. We should never forget any of these obscene acts of depravity, and govern our nations accordingly.
This is true as well. Talked to a couple of other pedes about it. Either way, the Holocaust is one of the prime examples of leftist evil, it should embolden us as we continue to support the MAGA movement.
Thank you.
wasnt there some kind of schismatic bent to it if i remember? like i remember it almost wiped out the jews that treated the kaballah as an authentic doccument
Literally the only person sad about george floyd's death is his drug dealer, losing customers is always rough for businesses.
No brainer. European Jew.
It's straight out of Howard Zinn and his crowd. America is supposed to be uniquely evil.
Yeah, they actually taught us that the Nazis intended to kill more than just Jews.
You've made it, folks!!
🤡 Peak Clown World 🤡
Fucking hell I can’t tell satire from real life anymore
wait why is it fitting
This theory is new to me. How is the holocaust a lie? I’ll dive deeper in research after you explain.
Please see my reply to this guy. The Holocaust was no lie, unless you can demonstrate that the Nazi leadership would falsely admit in court to having done these things (not to mention leaving behind ample internal memos). Hoess describes gas chambers as do many witnesses. He gives 2 million as the death count at Auschwitz/Birkenau alone.
Don’t listen to this person. Don’t listen to me. Use DuckDuckGo and do your own research. The number is literally impossible
Use DuckDuckGo and search Holocaust box or Holocaust was a lie. It’s just not possible in the way it was described. 6 million we’re not executed nor were they planned to be.
Gonna have to disagree with these people. They are getting their history off the wrong part of the internet.
Rudolph Hoess estimated they killed 2 million people at Auschwitz alone while he ran it. IIRC he also stated gas chambers were used: http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=74129
If you want to dig more go here: https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=73796
Enough with your copypasta. People can be easily tortured to say whatever you want them to. 2 million people did not die at Auschwitz and 6 million we’re not exterminated.
Explain how this was done.
If you simply want to debate the number of people killed, this thread has good resources: https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=101471
Note that the most likely reliable estimates, giving a range of 4-6 million, are based on a similar number of people simply disappearing from the global Jewish population. You are free to debate the estimate.
Very well.
In the early stages, the killings of undesirables, Jewish or otherwise, were done by shootings: https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=252303
However, Himmler noted that this was too stressful (emotionally) on his men. So he sought for a more "hands off" and efficient method. In Poland there were discussions about shutting people into barns and setting them on fire. I think that may be in the same link above but not sure. However, they thought it was too easy to get caught doing this.
So now we come to testimonies. Since you do not accept Hoess' testimony, here are others.
This man says people unfit for labor were put into a barn, called the "white house," and gas cans were thrown in through flaps. After, the people were taken, dead and half-alive, and cremated: https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=54393
The nature of the crematorium was well-knowm in the camp: https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=51877
This fellow was at the site during the buildup of Birkenau, and saw the bodies being stacked (which happened when there became too many dead to hide from the inmates), and describes the selection process and what was known of the gas chambers. He also describes a variety of other torments and summary killings: https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=51879
This man actually witnessed the gas tins being thrown into the chambers through windows, which I assume correspond to the "flaps" in one of the previous accounts, and which aligns, as far as I can tell, with the other accounts: https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=63077
Does this answer your question?
the entire holocaust was a lie?
i've heard the theory, it just surprises me that no ww2 vets that were there would say anything.
although I was also surprised that not a single fucking doctor (almost) has said anything about covid, so, hey, time to lower my bar for humanity!
well i agree with the second 2 things. and also thank you for the eyeroll emojis Master Faggot from Faggot Street.
wasn't it an overreaction by Hitler who in fact did come after the jews next door?
again, I would normally respond by 'how would they pull that lie off' but hey, look what we're living through.
anywhere to read that's not literally a link to Stormfront?
What the actual fuck?
Well somebody's got to clean the bathrooms.
Gaslight, gas chamber. I get it. They didn't kill 6 million jews! They got them listening to CNN!
So, it was a psychological death?
I feel like many will miss that last sentence 🤣🔥😃
Good, it fits. Both are events manipulated to demonize whites.
6 gorillion and 1 now
People should be required to watch the whole unedited video.
Unless those in charge specifically wanted to start what has happened since, why would they release the first video edited in the way it was? Shapiro keeps saying politic is more Veep than House of Cards. But this shit is pure House of Cards.
Holocaust, Michael Brown, George Floyd... They're really working to become a SUPER hoax museum. Not surprising at all.
Distraction