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Not just sexual; all mental illness is promoted to the masses. It is at the point where addicts just go to the emergency room more than once a month since there are no longer ways to treat them.
It's less important specifically who they let vote and infinitely more important why people were given a vote.
If you don't have a stake in maintaining and bettering the country, you shouldn't be allowed to vote. They gave the vote to landowners because owning land guaranteed you had a stake in the country.
If your life depends on the government to the point that you would support overreach and expansion of government beyond its purview, you don't get a vote. They gave the vote to white males because, generally speaking, their vote wasn't able to be bought by government officials.
If we limit suffrage, and we definitely should, it should be on universally applicable standards.
natural born citizens only. If you don't live and work in, or aren't subject to the jurisdiction of one of the 50 United States, you can't be expected to serve the nation's best interests and therefore cannot vote. If you weren't born here, the risk to our culture and principles being drowned out by foreign ideals is too great. Sorry, but if you love America, you'll understand the necessity.
no felons. If you refuse to abide by the law and order set up to protect society, why should you be allowed to shape said law and order? When and if you (specifically yourself) pay your debt to society, your right to vote may be restored. Imprisonment is meant to be reformative after all.
no one living on government assistance or employment. This should be obvious, your vote is directly for sale and therefore you shouldn't have a vote to sell.
This exactly. As long as people think "oh, I'll just vote to give myself free shit and who gives a fuck about the consequences to society", the democratic system is inherently unstable.
Any form of government only works if the people with power care more about the success of society than their own personal benefit. In a democracy, we give power to the people... but the need for selflessness hasn't gone away. Anyone who demonstrates that they care more about themselves than about their society should be a civilian, not a citizen.
Would love to go back to head of household gets to vote and no others.
Democrats would find a way around it though, they would "rent" their room from a parent for $0 and get the right to vote, only way around that is that if renters can't vote, and that disenfranchises the rich that live exclusively downtown in condos/apartments.
So really, the best system is that the land owner only gets the right to vote. Our founding fathers really did think this through.
Yeah, its difficult because of stuff like apartments. On the other hand, whats stopping a person from buying a square meter of land in the middle of nowhere?
Best criteria for voting I've seen so far is: One vote per family. To be a family you need to be married, own/rent a house, have at least one kid. Also you pay taxes/don't get welfare.
Yep, if people can't be stable enough to be married they are not stable enough mentally to vote. Having a biological kid is also a nice requirement. I can't believe how m much I grew up after our little one was born and took on that responsibility head on.
Yeah, there needs to be more emphasis put on statehood. At this point we need to give Puerto Rico a deadline, and possibly look at divesting ourselves of our islands that have a functioning government if they don't want to become states. Less leeches on the government, the better for everyone.
Natural born citizens should be extended to cover kids born overseas (ex: at least one parent parent is part of USAF stationed at Ramstein, Germany and has a kid, kid should be considered a natural born US citizen provided the kid moves back to the US with the parent if they get transferred back to the US).
Also, how do you define government employment... is it directly employed by the government, does that include contractors that work exclusively for the US government? What about contractors (like Boeing, for example) that fulfill orders for the government but also have a functioning (ok bad example) private sector business?
I would say directly employed by the government. A contractor, even one that works exclusively for the government, could theoretically find other work. That being said, there's a lot of nepotism and corruption tied into government contract deals that needs to be worked out; perhaps that's a separate issue though.
Totally agree about overseas kids born to American parents. And then there's the question of Native Americans. Are they American citizens or not? They can vote and hold office but then claim sovereignty and have their own laws. Pick a lane.
Yeah, the entire corruption thing is a huge ball of wax... and likely tied into why people are fighting so hard against Trump, so the best way forward on that front is to get Trump his second term, and let him start hammering stakes through the heart of that vampire.
IMO the best way forward with the Native Americans is to offer them a choice to either unite all the reservations into a single state (thus removing them from the existing state) or to have each reservation decide if it wants to fully merge into the existing state.
If they're going to be functionally their own state, then they need to officially be their own state... or they need to lose their special status. Either way, I consider all the Native Americans to be my American brothers and sisters, and I would prefer if they finally acknowledge that.
no one living on government assistance or employment. This should be obvious, your vote is directly for sale and therefore you shouldn't have a vote to sell.
We need a step further than this, thanks to earned income credits and the like. There are too many people who claim to pay taxes that get back every cent they pay in and then some--anyone in this category doesn't get the right to vote. The elderly can vote if they have paid into the system and are natural born citizens (none of this crap where people can migrate here and draw SS after never having paid into it).
The Founders were happy to have non-whites who fit the criteria to vote. They were even happy to experiment with women’s suffrage, as New Jersey from 1797-1807 goes. What matters is not race or gender per se, but commitment. Be it from property rights or others.
Women in NJ voted well before 1797. They voted in the very first election in the colony, and that was never questioned until ... I forget when that was changed but IIRC it was shortly before women's universal suffrage. It certainly wasn't a 10 year experiment.
I'm not sure this is a good example to gauge our founding Fathers by though.
That wouldn't fix things at all, simply because the modern equivalent is mark zuckerberg. In order for the republic to be 'by the people' you need to establish real voting qualifications beyond 'be living and breathing'. Service to society guarantees citizenship and all that.
I think he has got us covered for that reason alone. There's obvious signs of God's hand on President Trump and Mike Pence (Joseph and Daniel were both elevated to second position over the kingdoms and that alone was enough for those Godless nations to prosper). And we now have plenty of proof that people of this country support the America that was more than they support the sodom and gomorrah that it's turning into.
God has not yet decided to burn it all down, but we still need to tear down the idols.
No one really know what Gods plan is, perhaps he wanted Trump to win and then have the election stolen to wake enough people up so they rise and eradicate the corruption infecting our government. In the Old Testament, God punished people and even the Jews, who were his chosen, in horrible ways. The Jews were enslaved by Egypt for hundreds of years, by Babylon, conquered by the Romans, etc...
My point it, it may work out in the long term but it's never easy and involves a lot of hardship, which is needed for people to grow, before the job is done.
Did you know in the time the founders were still alive, most states had Established churches? Like how the Church of England is the state church of England, Massachusetts had the Puritan church.
Then they got rid of it by 1860 to appease secularism, then secularism decided it wanted to strangle religion entirely. It's almost like ceding ground to an insane, entitled ideological minority always leads to trouble.
Our founding fathers understood. Let's not forget what kind of man built the first city on earth.
"And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch." -- Genesis 4:17
You ever hear of John Calhoun? He did experiments to see what happens to life forms who get piled up on each other like they do in cities, and it's perfectly reflective of reality:
Women are trash even in rat form, which doesn't surprise me. Amazing that nobody ever takes this study as a confirmation that their hatred of us is actually an innate behavior.
Highest in-group bias
Lowest empathy
Showed clear preference in causing lethal harm to the out-group over unknowns or in-group.
All of this is confirmed scientifically, but I guarantee someone will remark about how I can't get a woman or some BS.
Well, as a woman, I should defend my gender, but I tend to agree with you. Growing up, I was the outcast in school because I never got along with other girls. College? Couldn't get along with roommates at all and threatened burying more than one for their petty bullshit. Women are typically petty, backstabbing, conniving pieces of shit who "henpeck" everyone who doesn't bow down to or conform to the feminine ideal (which has now become an androgynous man-hating psychopath, IMO) , which is why I don't get along with them. But I got along with guys fine. Always have. But my mother has never been the typical "female" either, and my dad was strong and expected the same from all of us without being assholes about it, so maybe that's where it comes from.
All I know is that I am the exception rather than the norm. I don't envy men having to deal with this shit. I mean, men aren't perfect either, but they are relatively simple and direct in how they deal with things (no offense) unless they're feminized, preening soyboys, in which case they're just women with shriveled up dicks.
Edited to add: The biggest problem is that, somewhere along the way, society stopped expecting people to be strong and intelligent and, instead, decided to break down those who are so everyone is operating at the lowest common denominator. Those who don't are not labeled bigots, sexists, racists, whatever... so yeah, I won't be accusing you of not being able to get a woman. The majority of women suck--and not in a good way.
The Founders were keenly aware that power corrupts and that government authority is inherently self-serving. If anything they would be saying “we TOLD you faggots this would happen!” The entire purpose of the Constitution was to erect legal barriers that would inhibit the ability of centralized government power to fuck over American citizens because the Founders knew exactly what would happen otherwise.
The long-term goal of the left is to chip away at those Constitutional barriers, bit by bit, until they become ineffective.
Perhaps the most fundamental change that led to the Federal Government usurping unconstitutional power was the 17th Amendment that made Senators popularly elected by their states. Before 1913, Senators were appointed by the State governments. "Ambition must be made to counteract ambition."
The Founders were keenly aware that power corrupts and that government authority is inherently self-serving.
Rather, people are inherently self-serving, being in government just affords them a greater opportunity to take advantage of others. As you said, power corrupts.
Most people, especially Leftists, don't understand how truly revolutionary the founders were and how the government they established was nearly unprecedented. They kicked out arguably the most powerful and global empire the world had ever seen and instead of propping up themselves and their buddies with power they actually created a government system with barriers to prevent that from happening - both limited themselves and their descendants.
It's pretty wild to think about: they crafted the system and the documents in such a way to prevent even themselves from exerting control over your life.
Although well intentioned, the CCA is too vague and comprehensive to enforce. If left up to interpretation it gives far too much power to feds to criminalize political views.
Sure, nobody should be persecuted for political views that are not directly harming others, but the context of my response was the criminalization of views. I don't trust the federal government with the power to consider a political view to be criminal and dismantle a political party. Now they absolutely can and should prosecute the leaders of the Democratic party that are clearly participating in serious crimes
Sorry to burst your bubble that got removed long after due to some dumb commie running in Arizona iirc in the 60's or early 70's can't remember exactly. Look it up.
Sedition is a Constitutional concept and term. No way can prohibiting the "fundamental change of this Country" be unconstitutional. And Obama's still at it.
If they try to put Biden in, Trump needs to report to duty at the airbase in Corpus Cristi, and get on the phone with Alberta, Mexico and Japan to make it very clear he is still The President.
The Mississippi River is the main artery of our nation, and it will be protected by the twin arms of Texas and Florida. The mountain passes in the Sierra Nevada, Cascades and Allegheny will all become check points and travel inwards will be restricted. If there is resistance from Milwaukee, Chicago or MN then counties in Upper Michigan will close off access to the St Lawrence and wait.
Almost every single liberal city is on the brink of becoming Detroit.
We don't even need to fire a shot. If Trump does exactly what I describe, in three months they will all surrender.
I think of this every time some pede cautions against war.
Folks, we have nothing to fear from war. We are already at war and have been for over a generation. How many people in this generation grew up without a father in their home? In human history, fatherless homes have only happened in the aftermath of war - when men were killed off and no longer able to raise their children.
A girl walking around with neon hair is a casualty of war. Her life has been ruined, intentionally, by an evil enemy. We are at war for decades, and we've been losing because we've allowed the war to be fought on their terms.
Propaganda networks and corrupt bureaucracy are their only strengths. These are the only battlegrounds where they can beat us, and yet we only fight them on those battlegrounds.
An entire generation is the walking dead. A man in his late 20s who jacks off and plays video games all day is a casualty of war. A woman turning 32 who has two abortions and hates men is a casualty of war.
We are already at war, it's just that we've only fought them on their terms.
This is very true. I watch a lot of old TV shows from the 50s and 60s, like Perry Mason, The Rifleman, etc. It's staggering what we have lost in such a short time. The culture back then still values the family and the cities were largely clean and a he'll of a lot more safe than today. Cops actually did their jobs, the average person knew right from wrong and parents raised their children to value hard work, not handouts. When you look at our beautiful cities back then, and what they have become today, it is horrifying that we've let this happen because of corrupt leftist overlords.
I now know how an empire as large and powerful as Rome could fail and fall apart completely.
Okay, I can buy the 29-year-old deadbeat and woman who's had two abortions as casualties, but how the hell is a girl dying her hair a casualty of war? That's... literally self-expression. A lot of people try a lot of things as they explore who they are. I dyed my hair jet black in high school. Didn't magically make me a communist. Didn't ruin my life.
Let's try to avoid catastrophizing over teenagers and young adults exploring their identities. It makes us a lot less palatable to people who may otherwise share our love of American liberty.
Casualty is wounded and also dead. The dyed unnatural colors is definitely a plead for attention that should have come from loving family not any kind of peer group.
I see your reasoning, but I guess I'm just not buying into this whole fear over unnatural hair colors. I thought this was just a meme that lefties made up about Trump supporters because honestly it seems like a really trivial thing to make a fuss about. We're talking about an individual's liberty to wear their hair the way they want, is this REALLY in the top 20 conservative concerns about society?
Also (and this is slightly beside the point, but you brought it up above), it's not a family's duty to provide ALL of the attention their child needs. Healthy people need friends and peer groups outside of their family circle. How else do you expect people to date? Families should be encouraging socialization, not trying to stifle it.
Okay, I think this where the confusion is coming from.
We're talking about an individual's liberty to wear their hair the way they want
No one is saying there should be restrictions on how people do their hair. That's not at all what I'm saying, and I don't know anyone who would say that.
What I'm saying though is that neon hair colors is usually a symptom of deeper issues.
Hair color is not even in the top 10,000 conservative issues. But the root causes that often lead to girls ruining their hair - fatherless homes, feminist propaganda, a soulless pump and dump dating culture etc...those ARE serious concerns.
I appreciate your clarification, and your reasoning makes more sense to me now.
I think we still may disagree on neon hair being symptomatic of "deeper issues," but that is certainly related to my personal bias... Two matriarchs in my family waited until they were in their 60s and 70s respectively to experiment with oddly hued hair. They're both Trump voters, gun owners, from conservative households with intact marriages, and been happily married to men their whole lives—they just have an artistic streak and they're not afraid to show it. Maybe they're the exceptions that prove the rule, but these are two women I would NOT want to denigrate for their hair color choices lol.
LESSER NATIONS KILL THEIR 'LEADERS' FOR LESS. We don't, because we haven't had to in a long time, but that's a mirage - and Americans have spent over 70 years in a fog thinking we won't execute evil people. We will, with court permission.
Matt Gaetz made this point on the floor of the House weeks ago; they killed Muammar Gaddafi in Lybia with an approval rate of like 13% because of CIA propaganda and infiltration of their grassroots revolution.
Our congress has an approval rate of 9%, but we don't even SPEAK threateningly or face criminal prosecution. They should feel threatened. They want to control our lives, and they should fear losing theirs for it.
"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."
revolution isn't really a permission kind of thing. trump is still our president, and will be for another 4 years. that being said people have to hang for what they did to the world. you can start with the clintons, the obamas, the bidens, pelosi, the usual suspects.
Unless you gather a group of 10,000 people and march on the location those demons are at they will never face justice. Only way they see justice is at the hands of a mob.
Ehhhh close. Operation Paperclip was about extracting their tech. We still pulped the genitals of the ones in the Nuremberg Trials, which included a Soviet judge.
I disagree. You can be rich and still be a good person. We just let bad people who are smooth talkers and cast pretty personas take reign. It's our fault we didn't vet people or take positions ourselves when we had the chance. Blaming money is a scapegoat.
Of course you can be rich and be a good person. I'm talking about getting soft.
A self made rich person will take risks like our founders did, and like Trumphas done. But a rich society is stocked with people who are comfortable enough to not be willing to risk what they have.
Spez: this is really just a rewording of the "good times make soft men; soft men make hard times" meme
You're missing what happened in 1913. The Fed was created to destroy the US. They've been planning this for 107 years, we're just watching it play out. Courts have until 12/14 to straighten this mess out. After that we need to be heroes, and waiting for Biden to be inaugurate on 1/20 is not an option.
its going to get to a point where shit like that is going to happen again. you can't just take peoples' freedoms away and expect nothing to build up. I've been being told lies for 8 months straight every single day and I've just about had it and I'm looking at joining certain organizations that exist because of shit like this that happens around the world
There was over a decade of strong instigation that built up to that. We have 70 years of slow gradual creep that's been snowballing, and is finally out in the open.
If the Supreme Court -- which we have packed 6-3 -- finds the evidence insufficient to overturn the election, then they aren't turning their eyes. It just isn't enough.
Not until some brave soul pops off and does it. Once a bunch of lefty pols are capped in broad daylight THEN they will fear. But not until then.
No, I'm not a glowie, I don't want armed conflict. I'm not trying to start anything or goad anyone into doing anything. It won't turn out well for anyone, least of all my own family if the boogaloo starts. (I have kids who need life saving meds that I can't stock up on and would disappear in a boog.)
But at the same time, I also must recognize that a threat not backed up by action is not a threat at all.
It's totally true. The corrupt elite are already above the law, they fear no consequence and act as such, which is why our cities have turned into he'll holes and the whole country will if they continue on this path.
Any conflict will be quelled by the first morning, when our military is deployed. Part of the reason is to keep big pharma chugging along, not that they care about life saving medication. Generals always plan for the previous war, but nothing like the 1850's will happen. Neither is 1776 an apt comparison.
I think his point is that everyone flexes about all the cool guns they have and says the "hurr hurr boating accident" thing because they wanna pretend they're cold dead hands level committed, but many conservatives would probably just film a video of the mean cops showing up and taking their guns if a leftist gungrab policy were ever legislated.
At the risk of being labelled glow, it's like that Beto meme from back when he was in the running - "okay, basically, my plan is Waco but everywhere". Are hundreds, perhaps thousands, of conservatives willing to go down shooting until the damage done causes gungrabbing to be recognized as a juice not worth the squeeze?
Are hundreds, perhaps thousands, of conservatives willing to go down shooting until the damage done causes gungrabbing to be recognized as a juice not worth the squeeze?
I think it would all depend upon the leadership and organization. At the moment, we have neither, and lamenting this fact gets you smeared as a "glowie."
Nope, no organization necessary. We are rugged individualists, who know right from wrong. No organization will occur that isn't in place already. Brace for this reality (and override that in your neighborhood if you can, safely)
Are hundreds, perhaps thousands, of conservatives willing to go down shooting until the damage done causes gungrabbing to be recognized as a juice not worth the squeeze?
If you're trying to demoralize the troops you are by definition the enemy.
Waiting til it gets to the point you point to is foolhardy. And that Rubicon is crossed on 12/14 if our Courts fail to straighten out the election fraud. Electors vote that day and the Courts can't override that.
Savages and assholes burn down churches and pull down statues in hundreds of cities and towns across our nation and we did nothing about it.
I mean we did a lot of talking. But there were people, even here, excusing the pussy reaction by whining about “election optics” while innocent white people were beaten to death by animals.
elECtiOn OpTiCs!!!!
Tell that to the families of the victims beaten to death by black fists.
Election Optics that were ultimately meaningless because the election was always meant to be rigged and stolen from us. We’re honestly a disgrace to the Founding Fathers legacy right now. If we don’t rise up 1776 style we deserve to live as Communist slaves. Smh.
It's true. Decades of living a lifestyle of plenty has made people soft. Also, there's a such thing as becoming too civilized, because when you do it only allows evil people to rule you. But also, there aren't any groups or real leadership on the ground to unify patriots and organize them. There needs to be a leader willing to sacrifice everything, just like the founders did, for the sake of freedom.
When only one side fights it's called a massacre. Our side hasn't fought yet. Don't conflate rioters destroying their own neighborhoods with our Courts turning a deaf ear to mountains of evidence of election fraud, hell bent on destroying the Nation.
This is doomer porn and historically ignorant. The revolution wasn't over a tax on tea, it had been building for well over a decade. Everyone here is made of the same stuff as the men who fought on D-Day!
SOURCE: knew the first soldier into battle on D-Day, who also survived the battle of Bastogne, and came home in one piece. Am his relative.
Society is irfuckingrelevant. SJWs are weak as shit. Kids on our side are strong as hell, and strong minded. I'm not sure that only 3% fought in the American Revolution, but historically that's how many enact sweeping change. Quit looking at "society."
I would rather never sleep in a warm bed again to insure future generations of Americans have the opportunity that we were to have but the boomers squandered it for meaningless words instead of values.
No more believing in government. It's time to stand up with We The People
Stop with your "but the boomers squandered" bs! DJT is a baby boomer, are you too ignorant to know this? You proliferate the divide and conquer strategy of the enemy. You have the duty to do better, and you have much to learn, obviously.
What happened in 1913 cannot be blamed on those not born before 1946. Many cycles are in play and have been throughout human history, yet you pretend everyone born in an 18 year period secretly met to fuck things up for everyone, including themselves. You cannot possibly be this stupid.
Soon? The Courts have a very limited time to straighten out the election fraud. 12/14 State electors vote. If they give one candidate a winning 270, the next step is inauguration day, 1/20. Courts can't interfere with the vote of electors. Of course this says nothing about all the other elections, other than for POTUS.
Some of us are going to have to decide if we really do get those guns and refuse to turn over the White House to the Democrats.
Seriously though, some of us should start thinking about that very seriously and not just posting a Sunday Gunday but start thinking about what needs to be done with it, how and where and the risks involved.
People are thinking about this very seriously. Many think there will be someone to follow, or some Official will give a signal. The only reason to think like that is not being familiar with the Fabian society. We need to know when our Courts can't do anything more to straighten out the election fraud, and watch that closely.
It's actually quite simple, it just been done, but a few dozen coordinated patriots could turn a city government upside down. Police are not going to be willing to engage in consistent firefights with citizens armed with AR 15s, but the FEDs will. A civil war today would not look like a war, more like an insurgency, which is how it would ha be to be fought given today's tech. The enemies are obvious, media, corrupt den mayors, Soros DAs, corrupt govoners, etc. All hypothetical of course, purely academic.
The strange thing to me is the media people have not even the concept of fearing MAGA and Patriots who actually kowtow to them, appease them, 'turn the other cheek' and even in here worry about 'Optics' which is the media appeasement part.
So they are obviously in full cooperation with the Democrats, they were actually playing part in it, yet, they don't have a thing to do but sneer and double-down because they don't even have the threat of losing anything.
Not sure, if it was me I'd have made sure they would at least have some thought in their mind they could get wrecked and lose things. Just so they know that could happen. They don't.
Some of you might say..what's the point of guns if they have tanks and choppers and missles?
I'll remind you, the founders wouldn't have cared if the British would have had dragons and warlocks, they'd do what must be done. Dead to the last man if so be it.
We won't be fighting against missiles or aircraft or tanks. We'll only get one night to settle this if our Courts fail to, because our military will deploy in the morning to quell everything. Courts have a deadline of 12/14 when the electors vote. Once that happens, Courts can't override that. Ww can't let that go the wrong way.
Separation of powers, not assumption. Electors and Courts are different branches of government. The point being that waiting now is the right thing to do, but this has a finite end. Pressuring our State Legislators is either primary or high on the list right now.
love this meme format lmao.... gotta make Trad Girl look confused and worried dealing with her weird descendant
I'm pissed off by these fucking commie zombies subverting our nation too but I think we'd be well served by having less civil-war posting but to each his own.
We are going to have to build separate societies. Primarily spend money at establishments that support your rights, invest in america first companies, associate with america first people
The founding fathers would have been shocked at how much our government has fucked us
"What did you do? Abandon God and Christianity??"
"Well, uh, yeah actually that did happen."
"That makes sense then."
"but at least you issue the currency yourself?"
About that....
Getting a bit close to naming the _____ here.
Is anyone trying to promote pedophilia and other sexual mental illness to the masses?
Yes.
Stop only bringing up Jewish crimes, bigot! Next you will want to talk about white genocide sheeesh!
Not just sexual; all mental illness is promoted to the masses. It is at the point where addicts just go to the emergency room more than once a month since there are no longer ways to treat them.
“Buy Bitcoin”- George Washington, probably
George wouldnt pump bitcoin like that.
XMR makes more sense from Washington's perspective, since it's untrackable and secure.
XMR is more of an Antifa currency. The entire community are nothing but indoctrinated shills and cultists who hate every other coin.
Only after they hijacked his YouTube channel and replaced all videos with a single 24/7 livestream.
"But we laid out very specific guidelines for maintaining this country, how could you have still messed it up?"
"Ever heard of universal suffrage, rampant welfare, and almost non-existent border security?"
"Only Congress has the power to coin money" has more to do with it. The rest of the problems come out of violating that.
you can stop at "universal suffrage", all of the rest is a result. Come to think of it, universal suffrage came from somewhere too.
It's less important specifically who they let vote and infinitely more important why people were given a vote.
If you don't have a stake in maintaining and bettering the country, you shouldn't be allowed to vote. They gave the vote to landowners because owning land guaranteed you had a stake in the country.
If your life depends on the government to the point that you would support overreach and expansion of government beyond its purview, you don't get a vote. They gave the vote to white males because, generally speaking, their vote wasn't able to be bought by government officials.
If we limit suffrage, and we definitely should, it should be on universally applicable standards.
natural born citizens only. If you don't live and work in, or aren't subject to the jurisdiction of one of the 50 United States, you can't be expected to serve the nation's best interests and therefore cannot vote. If you weren't born here, the risk to our culture and principles being drowned out by foreign ideals is too great. Sorry, but if you love America, you'll understand the necessity.
no felons. If you refuse to abide by the law and order set up to protect society, why should you be allowed to shape said law and order? When and if you (specifically yourself) pay your debt to society, your right to vote may be restored. Imprisonment is meant to be reformative after all.
no one living on government assistance or employment. This should be obvious, your vote is directly for sale and therefore you shouldn't have a vote to sell.
This exactly. As long as people think "oh, I'll just vote to give myself free shit and who gives a fuck about the consequences to society", the democratic system is inherently unstable.
Any form of government only works if the people with power care more about the success of society than their own personal benefit. In a democracy, we give power to the people... but the need for selflessness hasn't gone away. Anyone who demonstrates that they care more about themselves than about their society should be a civilian, not a citizen.
Would love to go back to head of household gets to vote and no others.
Democrats would find a way around it though, they would "rent" their room from a parent for $0 and get the right to vote, only way around that is that if renters can't vote, and that disenfranchises the rich that live exclusively downtown in condos/apartments.
So really, the best system is that the land owner only gets the right to vote. Our founding fathers really did think this through.
Yeah, its difficult because of stuff like apartments. On the other hand, whats stopping a person from buying a square meter of land in the middle of nowhere?
Best criteria for voting I've seen so far is: One vote per family. To be a family you need to be married, own/rent a house, have at least one kid. Also you pay taxes/don't get welfare.
Fuck that. I own land. I pay a LOT of taxes. I give back to my community. I will likely never be married or have kids. Why should I not have a vote?
Yep, if people can't be stable enough to be married they are not stable enough mentally to vote. Having a biological kid is also a nice requirement. I can't believe how m much I grew up after our little one was born and took on that responsibility head on.
Also, a Starship Troopers "Service Garuntees Citizenship" system would unironically be good too.
Yeah, there needs to be more emphasis put on statehood. At this point we need to give Puerto Rico a deadline, and possibly look at divesting ourselves of our islands that have a functioning government if they don't want to become states. Less leeches on the government, the better for everyone.
Natural born citizens should be extended to cover kids born overseas (ex: at least one parent parent is part of USAF stationed at Ramstein, Germany and has a kid, kid should be considered a natural born US citizen provided the kid moves back to the US with the parent if they get transferred back to the US).
Also, how do you define government employment... is it directly employed by the government, does that include contractors that work exclusively for the US government? What about contractors (like Boeing, for example) that fulfill orders for the government but also have a functioning (ok bad example) private sector business?
I would say directly employed by the government. A contractor, even one that works exclusively for the government, could theoretically find other work. That being said, there's a lot of nepotism and corruption tied into government contract deals that needs to be worked out; perhaps that's a separate issue though.
Totally agree about overseas kids born to American parents. And then there's the question of Native Americans. Are they American citizens or not? They can vote and hold office but then claim sovereignty and have their own laws. Pick a lane.
Yeah, the entire corruption thing is a huge ball of wax... and likely tied into why people are fighting so hard against Trump, so the best way forward on that front is to get Trump his second term, and let him start hammering stakes through the heart of that vampire.
IMO the best way forward with the Native Americans is to offer them a choice to either unite all the reservations into a single state (thus removing them from the existing state) or to have each reservation decide if it wants to fully merge into the existing state.
If they're going to be functionally their own state, then they need to officially be their own state... or they need to lose their special status. Either way, I consider all the Native Americans to be my American brothers and sisters, and I would prefer if they finally acknowledge that.
PR should stay as it is purely because Democrats only want it in to screw up the senate.
IMO having something as an eternal territory isn't good for the country because it's a huge tax sink. It needs to either join to GTFO.
We need a step further than this, thanks to earned income credits and the like. There are too many people who claim to pay taxes that get back every cent they pay in and then some--anyone in this category doesn't get the right to vote. The elderly can vote if they have paid into the system and are natural born citizens (none of this crap where people can migrate here and draw SS after never having paid into it).
Only living citizens would be a good start
Pffft, bigot! And dead non-citizens have just as much rights as white kids, fat
The Founders were happy to have non-whites who fit the criteria to vote. They were even happy to experiment with women’s suffrage, as New Jersey from 1797-1807 goes. What matters is not race or gender per se, but commitment. Be it from property rights or others.
Women in NJ voted well before 1797. They voted in the very first election in the colony, and that was never questioned until ... I forget when that was changed but IIRC it was shortly before women's universal suffrage. It certainly wasn't a 10 year experiment.
I'm not sure this is a good example to gauge our founding Fathers by though.
That wouldn't fix things at all, simply because the modern equivalent is mark zuckerberg. In order for the republic to be 'by the people' you need to establish real voting qualifications beyond 'be living and breathing'. Service to society guarantees citizenship and all that.
Yes
“Well the Hippies were just too cool! You should have seen their hair! How were we supposed to still respect our principles?”
The problems started in 1913, not the 60's
Wilson?
The Fed, and their collection agency the irs. Wilson was hoodwinked and later regretted it
Yep. We need to pray like Abraham that God will not destroy our nation for the sake of those here that still follow Him!
Let us not suffer the same fate as Sodom and Gomorrah.
I'll settle for not being Weimar Germany.
I think he has got us covered for that reason alone. There's obvious signs of God's hand on President Trump and Mike Pence (Joseph and Daniel were both elevated to second position over the kingdoms and that alone was enough for those Godless nations to prosper). And we now have plenty of proof that people of this country support the America that was more than they support the sodom and gomorrah that it's turning into.
God has not yet decided to burn it all down, but we still need to tear down the idols.
No one really know what Gods plan is, perhaps he wanted Trump to win and then have the election stolen to wake enough people up so they rise and eradicate the corruption infecting our government. In the Old Testament, God punished people and even the Jews, who were his chosen, in horrible ways. The Jews were enslaved by Egypt for hundreds of years, by Babylon, conquered by the Romans, etc...
My point it, it may work out in the long term but it's never easy and involves a lot of hardship, which is needed for people to grow, before the job is done.
For the sake of Jesus' shed blood. Not for our own righteousness ...
Amen. "All our righteousness is as filthy rags".
Did you know in the time the founders were still alive, most states had Established churches? Like how the Church of England is the state church of England, Massachusetts had the Puritan church.
Then they got rid of it by 1860 to appease secularism, then secularism decided it wanted to strangle religion entirely. It's almost like ceding ground to an insane, entitled ideological minority always leads to trouble.
Thomas Jefferson
Our founding fathers understood. Let's not forget what kind of man built the first city on earth.
"And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch." -- Genesis 4:17
Come for the memes, stay for the Based Bible References. Excellent point about the first city, I had long forgotten that.
You ever hear of John Calhoun? He did experiments to see what happens to life forms who get piled up on each other like they do in cities, and it's perfectly reflective of reality:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_B._Calhoun
Women are trash even in rat form, which doesn't surprise me. Amazing that nobody ever takes this study as a confirmation that their hatred of us is actually an innate behavior.
Highest in-group bias
Lowest empathy
Showed clear preference in causing lethal harm to the out-group over unknowns or in-group.
All of this is confirmed scientifically, but I guarantee someone will remark about how I can't get a woman or some BS.
Well, as a woman, I should defend my gender, but I tend to agree with you. Growing up, I was the outcast in school because I never got along with other girls. College? Couldn't get along with roommates at all and threatened burying more than one for their petty bullshit. Women are typically petty, backstabbing, conniving pieces of shit who "henpeck" everyone who doesn't bow down to or conform to the feminine ideal (which has now become an androgynous man-hating psychopath, IMO) , which is why I don't get along with them. But I got along with guys fine. Always have. But my mother has never been the typical "female" either, and my dad was strong and expected the same from all of us without being assholes about it, so maybe that's where it comes from.
All I know is that I am the exception rather than the norm. I don't envy men having to deal with this shit. I mean, men aren't perfect either, but they are relatively simple and direct in how they deal with things (no offense) unless they're feminized, preening soyboys, in which case they're just women with shriveled up dicks.
Edited to add: The biggest problem is that, somewhere along the way, society stopped expecting people to be strong and intelligent and, instead, decided to break down those who are so everyone is operating at the lowest common denominator. Those who don't are not labeled bigots, sexists, racists, whatever... so yeah, I won't be accusing you of not being able to get a woman. The majority of women suck--and not in a good way.
Simps mad.
and that corruption is so slow and subtle, like rust. Erodes a bit each day and year and decade until the vessel can not be saved.
SEE: the Fabian society.
The vessel can be saved. The unelected overlords, not so much.
A vessel can be reforged through fire. Overlords can just be fired in the forge.
Valley Forge? ;)
The Founders were keenly aware that power corrupts and that government authority is inherently self-serving. If anything they would be saying “we TOLD you faggots this would happen!” The entire purpose of the Constitution was to erect legal barriers that would inhibit the ability of centralized government power to fuck over American citizens because the Founders knew exactly what would happen otherwise.
The long-term goal of the left is to chip away at those Constitutional barriers, bit by bit, until they become ineffective.
Perhaps the most fundamental change that led to the Federal Government usurping unconstitutional power was the 17th Amendment that made Senators popularly elected by their states. Before 1913, Senators were appointed by the State governments. "Ambition must be made to counteract ambition."
Great post.
I've never heard it described in such a perfectly concise way before. Stealing this...
Safe to say we're at the threshold.
Rather, people are inherently self-serving, being in government just affords them a greater opportunity to take advantage of others. As you said, power corrupts.
Most people, especially Leftists, don't understand how truly revolutionary the founders were and how the government they established was nearly unprecedented. They kicked out arguably the most powerful and global empire the world had ever seen and instead of propping up themselves and their buddies with power they actually created a government system with barriers to prevent that from happening - both limited themselves and their descendants.
It's pretty wild to think about: they crafted the system and the documents in such a way to prevent even themselves from exerting control over your life.
And every generation since has fallen quite short of their example
Yeah, all that is accomplished. We may all need to be heroes soon.
The founding fathers works be shocked at how much government, period.
Stealing the eleciton forces us across the Rubicon.
The Democrat party must be dismantled.
under the communist control act they are already illegal
You're not wrong. All we have to do.is enforce that law.
Although well intentioned, the CCA is too vague and comprehensive to enforce. If left up to interpretation it gives far too much power to feds to criminalize political views.
“If we allow the persecution of people based on their political views, leftists will be able to persecute us for our political views!”
-movement currently being persecuted by leftists for its political views
Sure, nobody should be persecuted for political views that are not directly harming others, but the context of my response was the criminalization of views. I don't trust the federal government with the power to consider a political view to be criminal and dismantle a political party. Now they absolutely can and should prosecute the leaders of the Democratic party that are clearly participating in serious crimes
Sorry to burst your bubble that got removed long after due to some dumb commie running in Arizona iirc in the 60's or early 70's can't remember exactly. Look it up.
Still on the books. Never enforced.
Is it ? Ill have to go look it up and will stand corrected then.
I think it is unclear if it was constitutional but is still on the books
Sedition is a Constitutional concept and term. No way can prohibiting the "fundamental change of this Country" be unconstitutional. And Obama's still at it.
The Republicans too
with rope
All the way into Rome.
Rome today will be Corpus Cristi.
If they try to put Biden in, Trump needs to report to duty at the airbase in Corpus Cristi, and get on the phone with Alberta, Mexico and Japan to make it very clear he is still The President.
The Mississippi River is the main artery of our nation, and it will be protected by the twin arms of Texas and Florida. The mountain passes in the Sierra Nevada, Cascades and Allegheny will all become check points and travel inwards will be restricted. If there is resistance from Milwaukee, Chicago or MN then counties in Upper Michigan will close off access to the St Lawrence and wait.
Almost every single liberal city is on the brink of becoming Detroit.
We don't even need to fire a shot. If Trump does exactly what I describe, in three months they will all surrender.
I hope it doesn't come to this but it might.
12/14 is our Court's deadline to straighten out the election fraud. Electors vote that day, and Courts can't override that.
One person, one vote is the only way this country works. Without it we are ruled by whoever has the most money, power, political connections, etc.
How do elections work, dumbass? Take your pedantic bullshit elsewhere.
Jimmy Carter said the US is an oligarchy.
So much for the tolerant left!
So sad the top left is true
Probably would've asked "why do you support the patriarchy" instead though.
I think of this every time some pede cautions against war.
Folks, we have nothing to fear from war. We are already at war and have been for over a generation. How many people in this generation grew up without a father in their home? In human history, fatherless homes have only happened in the aftermath of war - when men were killed off and no longer able to raise their children.
A girl walking around with neon hair is a casualty of war. Her life has been ruined, intentionally, by an evil enemy. We are at war for decades, and we've been losing because we've allowed the war to be fought on their terms.
Propaganda networks and corrupt bureaucracy are their only strengths. These are the only battlegrounds where they can beat us, and yet we only fight them on those battlegrounds.
An entire generation is the walking dead. A man in his late 20s who jacks off and plays video games all day is a casualty of war. A woman turning 32 who has two abortions and hates men is a casualty of war.
We are already at war, it's just that we've only fought them on their terms.
This is very true. I watch a lot of old TV shows from the 50s and 60s, like Perry Mason, The Rifleman, etc. It's staggering what we have lost in such a short time. The culture back then still values the family and the cities were largely clean and a he'll of a lot more safe than today. Cops actually did their jobs, the average person knew right from wrong and parents raised their children to value hard work, not handouts. When you look at our beautiful cities back then, and what they have become today, it is horrifying that we've let this happen because of corrupt leftist overlords.
I now know how an empire as large and powerful as Rome could fail and fall apart completely.
Okay, I can buy the 29-year-old deadbeat and woman who's had two abortions as casualties, but how the hell is a girl dying her hair a casualty of war? That's... literally self-expression. A lot of people try a lot of things as they explore who they are. I dyed my hair jet black in high school. Didn't magically make me a communist. Didn't ruin my life.
Let's try to avoid catastrophizing over teenagers and young adults exploring their identities. It makes us a lot less palatable to people who may otherwise share our love of American liberty.
Casualty is wounded and also dead. The dyed unnatural colors is definitely a plead for attention that should have come from loving family not any kind of peer group.
Dying your hair black (a natural color) in high school (adolescence) is very different from a grown adult going neon.
I see your reasoning, but I guess I'm just not buying into this whole fear over unnatural hair colors. I thought this was just a meme that lefties made up about Trump supporters because honestly it seems like a really trivial thing to make a fuss about. We're talking about an individual's liberty to wear their hair the way they want, is this REALLY in the top 20 conservative concerns about society?
Also (and this is slightly beside the point, but you brought it up above), it's not a family's duty to provide ALL of the attention their child needs. Healthy people need friends and peer groups outside of their family circle. How else do you expect people to date? Families should be encouraging socialization, not trying to stifle it.
Okay, I think this where the confusion is coming from.
No one is saying there should be restrictions on how people do their hair. That's not at all what I'm saying, and I don't know anyone who would say that.
What I'm saying though is that neon hair colors is usually a symptom of deeper issues.
Hair color is not even in the top 10,000 conservative issues. But the root causes that often lead to girls ruining their hair - fatherless homes, feminist propaganda, a soulless pump and dump dating culture etc...those ARE serious concerns.
I appreciate your clarification, and your reasoning makes more sense to me now.
I think we still may disagree on neon hair being symptomatic of "deeper issues," but that is certainly related to my personal bias... Two matriarchs in my family waited until they were in their 60s and 70s respectively to experiment with oddly hued hair. They're both Trump voters, gun owners, from conservative households with intact marriages, and been happily married to men their whole lives—they just have an artistic streak and they're not afraid to show it. Maybe they're the exceptions that prove the rule, but these are two women I would NOT want to denigrate for their hair color choices lol.
Anyway, hope you have a good one, pede.
You too pede, nice talking to you
What if the bottom right became true....
It looks like pewdiepie in 2018 👊
LESSER NATIONS KILL THEIR 'LEADERS' FOR LESS. We don't, because we haven't had to in a long time, but that's a mirage - and Americans have spent over 70 years in a fog thinking we won't execute evil people. We will, with court permission.
Matt Gaetz made this point on the floor of the House weeks ago; they killed Muammar Gaddafi in Lybia with an approval rate of like 13% because of CIA propaganda and infiltration of their grassroots revolution.
Our congress has an approval rate of 9%, but we don't even SPEAK threateningly or face criminal prosecution. They should feel threatened. They want to control our lives, and they should fear losing theirs for it.
With court permission? Do you really think the courts would ever give us permission?
"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."
Or that we should even ask them?
They.
Serve.
Us.
Indeed.
revolution isn't really a permission kind of thing. trump is still our president, and will be for another 4 years. that being said people have to hang for what they did to the world. you can start with the clintons, the obamas, the bidens, pelosi, the usual suspects.
Unless you gather a group of 10,000 people and march on the location those demons are at they will never face justice. Only way they see justice is at the hands of a mob.
upwards of 10k people showed up armed in richmond last year to protest gun control. imagine how many would show up to tear down these tyrants
True. The system which has become corrupted will never fix itself from the inside. Never.
We can do eeeet!
Courts sentence people to death. (What I meant) Courts allow defensive killing. (What you’re referring to) ((FL))
They aren't even our leaders. They are our representatives. Only the President is our leader.
Oof. Excellent point!
The only reason we let some Nazis live was to save face and not look like the USSR.
Ehhhh close. Operation Paperclip was about extracting their tech. We still pulped the genitals of the ones in the Nuremberg Trials, which included a Soviet judge.
Regardless, the Nuremberg Trials were anything but fair and just.
A show-trial for the masses. This we agree.
Pretty ahistorical take ..
I hope the bottom doesn’t come to pass, but it might. I have no doubt the Founding Fathers would support the decision.
I have a feeling that G-Dub and the boys be poppin caps by now
Tax this dick
I have that sticker
Don't give them any ideas.
Too late. Men already pay more.
Too late. Cost me a $200 tax stamp.
You silenced your dick?
It’s a destructive device.
Lol my sides!
You bet. Theyre probably wondering why we let it get to this point in the first place.
Money.
Worst thing that ever happened to America was getting rich.
I disagree. You can be rich and still be a good person. We just let bad people who are smooth talkers and cast pretty personas take reign. It's our fault we didn't vet people or take positions ourselves when we had the chance. Blaming money is a scapegoat.
Of course you can be rich and be a good person. I'm talking about getting soft.
A self made rich person will take risks like our founders did, and like Trumphas done. But a rich society is stocked with people who are comfortable enough to not be willing to risk what they have.
Spez: this is really just a rewording of the "good times make soft men; soft men make hard times" meme
Ah, i understand now. Thank you
You're missing what happened in 1913. The Fed was created to destroy the US. They've been planning this for 107 years, we're just watching it play out. Courts have until 12/14 to straighten this mess out. After that we need to be heroes, and waiting for Biden to be inaugurate on 1/20 is not an option.
Capitalism did this. If you dont like it tough, that's the way it is.
Did it though? Do you really think the USA has a free market capitalism system?
As close as any major country ever has been. Without a doubt.
No where near as close as it used to be
Spez: hence "Make America Great Again"
They dumped tea into the harbor and wrote "FUCK YOU" to the king for less.
its going to get to a point where shit like that is going to happen again. you can't just take peoples' freedoms away and expect nothing to build up. I've been being told lies for 8 months straight every single day and I've just about had it and I'm looking at joining certain organizations that exist because of shit like this that happens around the world
There was over a decade of strong instigation that built up to that. We have 70 years of slow gradual creep that's been snowballing, and is finally out in the open.
For a moment there, I thought you were talking about GWB...that confused me a bit :-)
Dude they have literally taken away our right to vote; Even when Trump wins, the gov cannot and will not prosecute everyone involved.
Many involved will walk free; indeed, will never even see inside a jail cell.
Voting is literally one of the only things keeping a country from being a totalitarian hellhole.
How long do you think they'll let us keep our guns if they are successful in stealing this election?
Even if they lose; what the fuck do you think those who were involved are gonna do; become honest, decent citizens and people?
No; they're gonna REEEEEEE harder and find more ways to fuck us and fuck our system.
They have to go.
All of them.
Now.
The Founding Fathers would be asking what took so fucking long you goddamn pussies!
12/14 is the deadline for Courts to be DONE with straightening out the election fraud. Electors vote that day, Courts can't override that.
Not side IS absent. Amateurs and autists are finding hundreds of pieces of evidence that voter fraud did happen
I'm sure Trump and Rudy have 1000x more. if their evidence is ignored, the courts are turning their eyes and abandoning our framework
If the Supreme Court -- which we have packed 6-3 -- finds the evidence insufficient to overturn the election, then they aren't turning their eyes. It just isn't enough.
At best it’s 5-4. Don’t trust Roberts for anything.
"we" - 52 minute old account.
You're assuming any Court actually hears evidence. That's the first step, and it can't be assumed.
Obviously you have NO idea how overwhelming the evidence is! Look around here, there's tons of data.
The next step is for it to be presented well, and represented well. That can't be assumed either.
You're assuming SCOTUS ia infallible; not only can that not be assumed, the opposite is proven true.
We the People are the fourth and most powerful branch of government. Your faggotry is what got us in this mess to begin with!
"we"
Right.
So blatant widespread cheating should be rewarded with the highest office in the country?
Said the 8 minute old account.
Well, you seem to be an extreme faggot, so this isn't surprising.
We still have them guns
... now what?
Now we hijack the "Great Reset" and make it about purging globalist/deep state scum
That’s when China and Russia and the UN move in on us in the chaos. Get that food supply on lock or you’ll be begging for the camps.
I have said this multiple times. We talk about guns but never use them. No politician is scared.
They will be.
Not until some brave soul pops off and does it. Once a bunch of lefty pols are capped in broad daylight THEN they will fear. But not until then.
No, I'm not a glowie, I don't want armed conflict. I'm not trying to start anything or goad anyone into doing anything. It won't turn out well for anyone, least of all my own family if the boogaloo starts. (I have kids who need life saving meds that I can't stock up on and would disappear in a boog.)
But at the same time, I also must recognize that a threat not backed up by action is not a threat at all.
"I'm not a glowie"
** uses the term "boogaloo"
Call it what you like. I don't want it to happen because my family is at risk, but I also know threats without action are meaningless.
It's a Hobson's choice I really don't want to be forced into.
In the meantime, stay on target and expose corruption.
HOW do yOU dO FeLLoW Kidds?
It's totally true. The corrupt elite are already above the law, they fear no consequence and act as such, which is why our cities have turned into he'll holes and the whole country will if they continue on this path.
BASED
Any conflict will be quelled by the first morning, when our military is deployed. Part of the reason is to keep big pharma chugging along, not that they care about life saving medication. Generals always plan for the previous war, but nothing like the 1850's will happen. Neither is 1776 an apt comparison.
Wonder why it was so important to all of a sudden nationalize from the state laws a federal law on lynching.
old Yoda puppet they Will be
No shit. Let's post guns all day on Sunday before we have "le boating accident LOL".
If you aren't prepared to use them when the time comes, what good are they?
You seem to misunderstand the boating accident trope. Your final statement is of course on point.
I think his point is that everyone flexes about all the cool guns they have and says the "hurr hurr boating accident" thing because they wanna pretend they're cold dead hands level committed, but many conservatives would probably just film a video of the mean cops showing up and taking their guns if a leftist gungrab policy were ever legislated.
At the risk of being labelled glow, it's like that Beto meme from back when he was in the running - "okay, basically, my plan is Waco but everywhere". Are hundreds, perhaps thousands, of conservatives willing to go down shooting until the damage done causes gungrabbing to be recognized as a juice not worth the squeeze?
I think it would all depend upon the leadership and organization. At the moment, we have neither, and lamenting this fact gets you smeared as a "glowie."
Nope, no organization necessary. We are rugged individualists, who know right from wrong. No organization will occur that isn't in place already. Brace for this reality (and override that in your neighborhood if you can, safely)
If you're trying to demoralize the troops you are by definition the enemy.
Waiting til it gets to the point you point to is foolhardy. And that Rubicon is crossed on 12/14 if our Courts fail to straighten out the election fraud. Electors vote that day and the Courts can't override that.
guns are the last resort. revolution isn't really a thing you can stop once you open that box
They've been killing us, every day. What do you think their plans are with renewed lockdowns, a mandatory vaccine, and the great reset?
That would be the battle between the US Army vs. people's militia.
but isn't that we haven't used them...yet?
The shoe fits.
Savages and assholes burn down churches and pull down statues in hundreds of cities and towns across our nation and we did nothing about it.
I mean we did a lot of talking. But there were people, even here, excusing the pussy reaction by whining about “election optics” while innocent white people were beaten to death by animals. elECtiOn OpTiCs!!!!
Tell that to the families of the victims beaten to death by black fists.
Election Optics that were ultimately meaningless because the election was always meant to be rigged and stolen from us. We’re honestly a disgrace to the Founding Fathers legacy right now. If we don’t rise up 1776 style we deserve to live as Communist slaves. Smh.
Edit: Downvotes from cowards who fear the truth
It's true. Decades of living a lifestyle of plenty has made people soft. Also, there's a such thing as becoming too civilized, because when you do it only allows evil people to rule you. But also, there aren't any groups or real leadership on the ground to unify patriots and organize them. There needs to be a leader willing to sacrifice everything, just like the founders did, for the sake of freedom.
When only one side fights it's called a massacre. Our side hasn't fought yet. Don't conflate rioters destroying their own neighborhoods with our Courts turning a deaf ear to mountains of evidence of election fraud, hell bent on destroying the Nation.
This is doomer porn and historically ignorant. The revolution wasn't over a tax on tea, it had been building for well over a decade. Everyone here is made of the same stuff as the men who fought on D-Day!
SOURCE: knew the first soldier into battle on D-Day, who also survived the battle of Bastogne, and came home in one piece. Am his relative.
Society is irfuckingrelevant. SJWs are weak as shit. Kids on our side are strong as hell, and strong minded. I'm not sure that only 3% fought in the American Revolution, but historically that's how many enact sweeping change. Quit looking at "society."
Very persuasive intellect you have there
I would rather never sleep in a warm bed again to insure future generations of Americans have the opportunity that we were to have but the boomers squandered it for meaningless words instead of values. No more believing in government. It's time to stand up with We The People
Stop with your "but the boomers squandered" bs! DJT is a baby boomer, are you too ignorant to know this? You proliferate the divide and conquer strategy of the enemy. You have the duty to do better, and you have much to learn, obviously.
What happened in 1913 cannot be blamed on those not born before 1946. Many cycles are in play and have been throughout human history, yet you pretend everyone born in an 18 year period secretly met to fuck things up for everyone, including themselves. You cannot possibly be this stupid.
ok moron... believe whatever thing you want to believe
You really ARE that stupid. Revoke your US citizenship[. You already turned in your man card.
Epic! This is why I love this site! Back to the weekday grind, this is rejuvenating after the weekend riff raff
Intentional misspelling is a legit strategy.
"But we put 'shall not be infringed' what is unclear about that?"
"I understand Mr. Jefferson, believe me, but just add an extra sentence about automatic rifles and unlimited magazine capacity. Trust me."
Supressors, too
Can't believe you got downvoted for that!
Holy shit im dyin'!!! This one forced out a lol
For the most part, organization not done by now isn't going to happen. While Which is perfectly ok
This is what happens when you didn't let McCarthy finish his job.
We got some lefty shitheads down voting everyone. They must be cockless faggots that ran out of government money for their hormone blockers.
Yeah I’ve been seeing it allot lately. Too bad you can’t see who’s doing the down voting. We know one thing is for sure though.. they are faggots.
accurate af
Don't be tryna steal our ELECITON!
YES WE FUCKING DO SIR
Yes
Very nice
Soon? The Courts have a very limited time to straighten out the election fraud. 12/14 State electors vote. If they give one candidate a winning 270, the next step is inauguration day, 1/20. Courts can't interfere with the vote of electors. Of course this says nothing about all the other elections, other than for POTUS.
Feel free to take the lead on that shootin', "patriot."
If your citizenship is staked on others doing your dirty work for you, maybe you are in the wrong place.
I needed a laugh. This is fucking great.
Thanks OP.
Commies are downvoting everything 😂
Some of us are going to have to decide if we really do get those guns and refuse to turn over the White House to the Democrats.
Seriously though, some of us should start thinking about that very seriously and not just posting a Sunday Gunday but start thinking about what needs to be done with it, how and where and the risks involved.
People are thinking about this very seriously. Many think there will be someone to follow, or some Official will give a signal. The only reason to think like that is not being familiar with the Fabian society. We need to know when our Courts can't do anything more to straighten out the election fraud, and watch that closely.
It's actually quite simple, it just been done, but a few dozen coordinated patriots could turn a city government upside down. Police are not going to be willing to engage in consistent firefights with citizens armed with AR 15s, but the FEDs will. A civil war today would not look like a war, more like an insurgency, which is how it would ha be to be fought given today's tech. The enemies are obvious, media, corrupt den mayors, Soros DAs, corrupt govoners, etc. All hypothetical of course, purely academic.
The strange thing to me is the media people have not even the concept of fearing MAGA and Patriots who actually kowtow to them, appease them, 'turn the other cheek' and even in here worry about 'Optics' which is the media appeasement part.
So they are obviously in full cooperation with the Democrats, they were actually playing part in it, yet, they don't have a thing to do but sneer and double-down because they don't even have the threat of losing anything.
Not sure, if it was me I'd have made sure they would at least have some thought in their mind they could get wrecked and lose things. Just so they know that could happen. They don't.
If you go back a little further and see Washington he'll roll over that there are parties in the first place
I wish I had a machine that would allow me to vote for this many times
You have to die and become a Democrat before you get to do that
And the communists are now tearing down his statues.
Downvote fairies :DDDDDDDDD
"If you can keep it..."
Go time soon. Got Zero?
Some of you might say..what's the point of guns if they have tanks and choppers and missles?
I'll remind you, the founders wouldn't have cared if the British would have had dragons and warlocks, they'd do what must be done. Dead to the last man if so be it.
We won't be fighting against missiles or aircraft or tanks. We'll only get one night to settle this if our Courts fail to, because our military will deploy in the morning to quell everything. Courts have a deadline of 12/14 when the electors vote. Once that happens, Courts can't override that. Ww can't let that go the wrong way.
I'm less certain of that.
I'm not sure that assumption has ever been tested.
Separation of powers, not assumption. Electors and Courts are different branches of government. The point being that waiting now is the right thing to do, but this has a finite end. Pressuring our State Legislators is either primary or high on the list right now.
Jefferson and the boys woulda been stackin bodies by now.
Jefferson: Then what the fuck did you come back to me for?
This is soooo high energy.
Why does it seem like there's always a misspelling in potentially good memes!!
love this meme format lmao.... gotta make Trad Girl look confused and worried dealing with her weird descendant
I'm pissed off by these fucking commie zombies subverting our nation too but I think we'd be well served by having less civil-war posting but to each his own.
You have to go back.
Edit: you will never be a woman
I plan on visiting the FF and giving my report: traitors dead, republic secure. Liberties intact!!!
Million up votes!!!!!!!!!!
Am I the only one who keeps reading that as Elvis? Then momentarily wishing I could make a clever enough connection to meme the King?
Our founding fathers were badasses.
I'd ask Big Ben Franklin myself, though I doubt the answer would change much.
SJW: "Grandad! I fight Nazis in my time too!"
GrandPede: "Uh huh. And how many commies have you killed?"
SJW: "..." TRIGGERED
We are going to have to build separate societies. Primarily spend money at establishments that support your rights, invest in america first companies, associate with america first people