Well there are some shills here today. So that’s prolly some of the downvotes and a few well meaning pedes are very immature and downvote anything that isn’t Pollyanna super duper “yes! I’m not worried at all!”
True on the shills. As far as the overly enthusiastic, it was not in any way meant to be a doomer post. It's important to have a rounded perspective on all the ways this could be beneficial for us or negative.
Appreciate your response, thanks for the perspective
Just a from the hip opinion, but I would say the significance is the court is taking President Trump's filing seriously, rather than let it linger until there's not really enough time for a further bump to SCOTUS.
Yes but there's also such a thing as getting tired of gloom & doom, concern and worry, looking for how this could be bad, negative negative negative. So some people could understandably downvote for negativity. We, like any fighting force, need morale boosting positivity, IMHO, rather than seeking more things to worry about. Yes all facts are welcome not only positive ones...but attaching negative energy and emotion to them accomplishes nothing. (Not stating anyone in this thread did that, speaking generally)
By the way, I'm not "worried" at all. Fuck that. Worry is just wasted mental energy. If you're worried, you're paying attention to the wrong people and what they say, and inducing stress on yourself.
Consider:
If you worry and the bad thing never happens (which is 95% of the time), then you wasted all that time and energy worrying for nothing.
If you worry and the bad thing happens anyway (despite your best worrying efforts), then you wasted all that time and energy worrying for nothing.
Trump himself said, and I quote, "Don't worry." :)
I just down voted you and I'm grateful for the privilege this site accords me to do it, we don't censor each other with ridicule here. Everyone's opinion is just as good as yours and your friend.
I've worked with lawyers on appeal cases - as is typical with any litigation, appeals can take a LONG time. The fastest ones can take months to resolve. So the fact that the appeal was filed last week, and it was granted today, with the brief in support due TODAY and the reply due tomorrow? That is unheard of. It's very good that the Court agrees and lets us make the argument.
Whether it could be a bad thing that it's going through so quickly - well, it's only bad if the lawyers don't have their shit together and can't put a good argument before the Court.
I didn't downvote you pede, but I get sick of everyone telling me that Trump has lost/is going to lose/ can't win, etc. So, possibly it's that. I dunno. I come here and I want to see the positive side of things because I get the negative side of things from everyone I talk to: neighbors, friends, etc. I want this forum to be optimistic. Honestly, no one knows who will win. No one can. But I want to at least see the positive/optimistic side of things (Trump Will Win) when I come here.
I didn't downvote you pede, but I get sick of everyone telling me that Trump has lost/is going to lose/ can't win, etc. So, possibly it's that. I dunno. I come here and I want to see the positive side of things because I get the negative side of things from everyone I talk to: neighbors, friends, etc. I want this forum to be optimistic. Honestly, no one knows who will win. No one can. But I want to at least see the positive/optimistic side of things (Trump Will Win) when I come here.
I read this excellent remark ↑ right after posting in support of everything in it :)
I can't come here and deal with negativity about how Trump can't win. I can get that from CNN or FOX News. I want to see a path forward where we come out on top. If we can't post that here, then I'm leaving. :P
Great answer! Can I ask, how carved in stone is that Dec. 14th date—is it conceivably open to adjustment under the right circumstances? Can they buy more time?
That's a great question. I know in the very first election, New York didn't get any electoral votes for president because they didn't have their act together in time. How that all works now, I'm not sure.
What's the significance of it being pumped through so quickly?
It could be a bad thing being pumped through so quickly, couldn't it?
Edit: Why am I being downvoted for a serious question, pedes?
Well there are some shills here today. So that’s prolly some of the downvotes and a few well meaning pedes are very immature and downvote anything that isn’t Pollyanna super duper “yes! I’m not worried at all!”
So a mix. Don’t take it to heart.
True on the shills. As far as the overly enthusiastic, it was not in any way meant to be a doomer post. It's important to have a rounded perspective on all the ways this could be beneficial for us or negative.
Appreciate your response, thanks for the perspective
I think SCOTUS is the goal. So the quicker it moves the better.
Just a from the hip opinion, but I would say the significance is the court is taking President Trump's filing seriously, rather than let it linger until there's not really enough time for a further bump to SCOTUS.
That's a good point, thank you!
Yes but there's also such a thing as getting tired of gloom & doom, concern and worry, looking for how this could be bad, negative negative negative. So some people could understandably downvote for negativity. We, like any fighting force, need morale boosting positivity, IMHO, rather than seeking more things to worry about. Yes all facts are welcome not only positive ones...but attaching negative energy and emotion to them accomplishes nothing. (Not stating anyone in this thread did that, speaking generally)
By the way, I'm not "worried" at all. Fuck that. Worry is just wasted mental energy. If you're worried, you're paying attention to the wrong people and what they say, and inducing stress on yourself.
Consider:
If you worry and the bad thing never happens (which is 95% of the time), then you wasted all that time and energy worrying for nothing.
If you worry and the bad thing happens anyway (despite your best worrying efforts), then you wasted all that time and energy worrying for nothing.
Trump himself said, and I quote, "Don't worry." :)
I just down voted you and I'm grateful for the privilege this site accords me to do it, we don't censor each other with ridicule here. Everyone's opinion is just as good as yours and your friend.
I've worked with lawyers on appeal cases - as is typical with any litigation, appeals can take a LONG time. The fastest ones can take months to resolve. So the fact that the appeal was filed last week, and it was granted today, with the brief in support due TODAY and the reply due tomorrow? That is unheard of. It's very good that the Court agrees and lets us make the argument.
Whether it could be a bad thing that it's going through so quickly - well, it's only bad if the lawyers don't have their shit together and can't put a good argument before the Court.
Thank you so much for the detailed response. Exactly what I was looking for, much love.
What do you guess the odds of that are in this case?
I started reading our brief: the lawyers did good. I'm hopeful the 3rd Circuit will be fair.
I didn't downvote you pede, but I get sick of everyone telling me that Trump has lost/is going to lose/ can't win, etc. So, possibly it's that. I dunno. I come here and I want to see the positive side of things because I get the negative side of things from everyone I talk to: neighbors, friends, etc. I want this forum to be optimistic. Honestly, no one knows who will win. No one can. But I want to at least see the positive/optimistic side of things (Trump Will Win) when I come here.
I read this excellent remark ↑ right after posting in support of everything in it :)
—President Trump
I can't come here and deal with negativity about how Trump can't win. I can get that from CNN or FOX News. I want to see a path forward where we come out on top. If we can't post that here, then I'm leaving. :P
Has trump lost yet?
Sat, Dec 5.
Looking forward to more winning!
^This is me 100%. Thanks for saving me from typing...
Great answer! Can I ask, how carved in stone is that Dec. 14th date—is it conceivably open to adjustment under the right circumstances? Can they buy more time?
That's a great question. I know in the very first election, New York didn't get any electoral votes for president because they didn't have their act together in time. How that all works now, I'm not sure.