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Italians_Invented_2A 6 points ago +6 / -0

It's exactly the opposite of what you said. The American settlers settled in mostly empty land, and made their own living.

The illegal aliens today enter a country by force and demand the native population to maintain them and to transform their society to put them in charge.

I'm not clicking on a .pdf but it's absurd to look at the crime rate of legal immigrants, who are vetted before they get their Visa. Look at the crime rate of those who jump the border (not visa overstayers for the same reason as above)

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9374328497 -4 points ago +2 / -6

The US government killed thousands of Native Americans just during the Trail of Tears (which I'm sure you learned about in school) and many more in many other lesser know incidents you can easily find by searching for "native american genocide".

Illegal immigrants are not entering the country by force and they rarely demand or receive anything. Still, I have no objection to removing the last bit of welfare from immigrants. That's not the issue.

It's a shame you didn't click on the link because the headline is "Illegal Immigration and Crime in Texas" and the paper directly contradicts your assertion.

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Italians_Invented_2A 3 points ago +3 / -0

Illegal immigrants are not entering the country by force

Crossing the border illegally is just like if someone breaks into your house

and they rarely demand or receive anything

Oh, you must have missed that the most powerful political movement today is a black supremacist movement that caused untold billions of dollars in damage, and they are demanding to take money from white people.

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The US government killed thousands of Native Americans just during the Trail of Tears

People dying due to forced relocation is not the same thing as government killing people. The US government did not specifically targeted for extermination native Americans unlike, say, the Turks burning Greek people alive and then enslaving the survivors. Which I'm sure you studied in school, right?

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9374328497 1 point ago +1 / -0

Crossing the border illegally is just like if someone breaks into your house

A country is not a house. A house is property that was created by someone's work. I can trace the history of my house back through previous owners to the people who built it exchange for mutually agreed compensation. A country is nothing like that.

Oh, you must have missed that the most powerful political movement today is a black supremacist movement that caused untold billions of dollars in damage, and they are demanding to take money from white people.

Few back people in the US are immigrants or descendant of immigrants to the US. Those who are immigrants are usually upper or upper-middle class and not the type of people who riot. Most back people in the US are descendants of slaves.

Response to edit: The US government subjected people to violence knowingly and indifferently to them dying as evident by them not stopping when they started dying. That's definitely killing. It's even murder in many states.

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Italians_Invented_2A 2 points ago +2 / -0

A country is not a house.

This is exactly the fundamental difference between me, a conservative, and you, a leftist.

For me a nation is exactly like a house, and exactly like a house it belongs to those who built it.

A house is property that was created by someone's work

Exactly like a nation. A nation is not just a piece of land. It's the sum of the accumulated wealth that we inherit from our fathers, and our fathers built it with sweat, blood and tears.

Tell me, do you intend to accept your family's inheritance?

Or would you be happy with your family's life savings to be shared with other people, in the name of equality? Or maybe if you're white you should get less, in the name of diversity.

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