Illegal immigrants are not entering the country by force
Crossing the border illegally is just like if someone breaks into your house
and they rarely demand or receive anything
Oh, you must have missed that the most powerful political movement today is a black supremacist movement that caused untold billions of dollars in damage, and they are demanding to take money from white people.
Edit to add another response:
The US government killed thousands of Native Americans just during the Trail of Tears
People dying due to forced relocation is not the same thing as government killing people. The US government did not specifically targeted for extermination native Americans unlike, say, the Turks burning Greek people alive and then enslaving the survivors. Which I'm sure you studied in school, right?
Crossing the border illegally is just like if someone breaks into your house
A country is not a house. A house is property that was created by someone's work. I can trace the history of my house back through previous owners to the people who built it exchange for mutually agreed compensation. A country is nothing like that.
Oh, you must have missed that the most powerful political movement today is a black supremacist movement that caused untold billions of dollars in damage, and they are demanding to take money from white people.
Few back people in the US are immigrants or descendant of immigrants to the US. Those who are immigrants are usually upper or upper-middle class and not the type of people who riot. Most back people in the US are descendants of slaves.
Response to edit: The US government subjected people to violence knowingly and indifferently to them dying as evident by them not stopping when they started dying. That's definitely killing. It's even murder in many states.
This is exactly the fundamental difference between me, a conservative, and you, a leftist.
For me a nation is exactly like a house, and exactly like a house it belongs to those who built it.
A house is property that was created by someone's work
Exactly like a nation. A nation is not just a piece of land. It's the sum of the accumulated wealth that we inherit from our fathers, and our fathers built it with sweat, blood and tears.
Tell me, do you intend to accept your family's inheritance?
Or would you be happy with your family's life savings to be shared with other people, in the name of equality? Or maybe if you're white you should get less, in the name of diversity.
This is exactly the fundamental difference between me, a conservative, and you, a leftist.
I'm not a leftist but your arguments are very collectivist which is often associated with leftism, you know?
For me a nation is exactly like a house, and exactly like a house it belongs to those who built it.
It's empirically nothing like a house. A nation is a geographical area that exist independently of humans and a cultural identity loosely connected to that area. Neither is property, neither was bult by a person or specific group of people, and neither can be owned.
Tell me, do you intend to accept your family's inheritance?
Only if they want to give me an inheritance.
Or would you be happy with your family's life savings to be shared with other people, in the name of equality?
That's really up to my parents. It's their property and they are free to do with it as they wish. Luckily, they don't own any geographical areas taken by force or cultural identities, I wouldn't accept it if they did.
A nation is a geographical area that exist independently of humans and a cultural identity loosely connected to that area. Neither is property, neither was bult by a person or specific group of people, and neither can be owned.
And who the fuck built the infrastructures, businesses, and the whole fucking legal and social and cultural framework for a free market to operate? You think someone can start a business as an individual, setting up shop in a wasteland?
Would you prefer to start a new business in America or in Somalia?
If the answer is "in America", that's because someone else built the nation.
I'm not a leftist but your arguments are very collectivist which is often associated with leftism, you know?
This is absolutely wrong. Conservativism is about society, which is divided in nations, communities, and families. The family being the molecule of society.
It's leftism that is individualism. A single individual can survive because the Government takes care of the individuals who are unable to take care of themselves (temporarily or permanently). This is why the Marxists want to destroy the family (e.g. LGBT) and social unity (by importing non-whites tribalistic invaders).
Once white people have no racial identity, no national identity, and no family, then the only possible answer is communism.
You don't have any of those three, if I have to judge from our brief conversation, so it's only natural that you're a leftist.
Crossing the border illegally is just like if someone breaks into your house
Oh, you must have missed that the most powerful political movement today is a black supremacist movement that caused untold billions of dollars in damage, and they are demanding to take money from white people.
Edit to add another response:
People dying due to forced relocation is not the same thing as government killing people. The US government did not specifically targeted for extermination native Americans unlike, say, the Turks burning Greek people alive and then enslaving the survivors. Which I'm sure you studied in school, right?
A country is not a house. A house is property that was created by someone's work. I can trace the history of my house back through previous owners to the people who built it exchange for mutually agreed compensation. A country is nothing like that.
Few back people in the US are immigrants or descendant of immigrants to the US. Those who are immigrants are usually upper or upper-middle class and not the type of people who riot. Most back people in the US are descendants of slaves.
Response to edit: The US government subjected people to violence knowingly and indifferently to them dying as evident by them not stopping when they started dying. That's definitely killing. It's even murder in many states.
This is exactly the fundamental difference between me, a conservative, and you, a leftist.
For me a nation is exactly like a house, and exactly like a house it belongs to those who built it.
Exactly like a nation. A nation is not just a piece of land. It's the sum of the accumulated wealth that we inherit from our fathers, and our fathers built it with sweat, blood and tears.
Tell me, do you intend to accept your family's inheritance?
Or would you be happy with your family's life savings to be shared with other people, in the name of equality? Or maybe if you're white you should get less, in the name of diversity.
I'm not a leftist but your arguments are very collectivist which is often associated with leftism, you know?
It's empirically nothing like a house. A nation is a geographical area that exist independently of humans and a cultural identity loosely connected to that area. Neither is property, neither was bult by a person or specific group of people, and neither can be owned.
Only if they want to give me an inheritance.
That's really up to my parents. It's their property and they are free to do with it as they wish. Luckily, they don't own any geographical areas taken by force or cultural identities, I wouldn't accept it if they did.
My God, your cuckoldry is making me sick.
And who the fuck built the infrastructures, businesses, and the whole fucking legal and social and cultural framework for a free market to operate? You think someone can start a business as an individual, setting up shop in a wasteland?
Would you prefer to start a new business in America or in Somalia? If the answer is "in America", that's because someone else built the nation.
This is absolutely wrong. Conservativism is about society, which is divided in nations, communities, and families. The family being the molecule of society.
It's leftism that is individualism. A single individual can survive because the Government takes care of the individuals who are unable to take care of themselves (temporarily or permanently). This is why the Marxists want to destroy the family (e.g. LGBT) and social unity (by importing non-whites tribalistic invaders).
Once white people have no racial identity, no national identity, and no family, then the only possible answer is communism.
You don't have any of those three, if I have to judge from our brief conversation, so it's only natural that you're a leftist.