FUCK THIS SHIT. Enough with the games! And why can't you videotape? What would they not want you to be able to review later on, that you could see with your own eyes while standing/sitting there?
I just can't wrap my head around how they're still trying to pull shenanigans and be all secretive about it, if they're trying to say that it's us MAGAtards who are being unreasonable then just have cameras so the whole world can see how ridiculous we're being, would be a total win for them?
I don't understand how their "rules" supersede the need for a valid review process. Like shoving people back, covering windows, making people use binoculars and stacking the review team to be 80% democrats seems like something anyone with half a brain would take a giant shit on.
They [dems] don't give two shits about the police and would defund them given the chance, and Trump has been unwavering and has had law enforcement's back, yet there are po-po that let this shit happen right under their noses. Those fuckers are complicit.
Well can't have cameras cause then it would be "videoing" and that could be used as evidence against them far more than a he said she said.
The big reason though, is to get people mad. Cause if they can get some mad trump supporters on camera, they'll use it to further push down on anyone who does support him. Turning support for Trump into "hate speech" and making hate speech illegal.
Which is nothing unusual or unnatural, it's just the way shit goes, not everyone's made to be a fighter or a leader, someone has to perform other duties supportive of fighters and leaders. I'm sure I'm just stating the obvious...
MAGA movement has almost completely deteriorated ever since NFL goons started joining.
Went from action and memes to constant calls of unfulfilled violence. These country boys larp harder than Antifa about how they're going to use their guns to protect their freedom.
Like we don't need guns yet, but you maybe you jackasses could lineup football style, like your heroes, and and push your way through into that station with cameras rolling.
They won't though because they're all about sitting on their ass and having their buddies yak them up.
*edit: I've thrown out 4 comments over the past month attesting to the same thing hoping for some rebuttal: NFL cucks came here to get jacked off by their fellows after the world at large let them know that they're the Dunning Kruger effect incarnate, and they're dragging down the MAGA movement with their somebody else take action mentality. "Fuck off jerk, I've got work!" and "Back the blue, even if they're attacking you!" seem to be their rallying mantra.
Downvotes with no response other than basic REEEE, "pussy faggot" "go home nerd" low iq stuff. You guys barely make the memes anymore because you're becoming the memes instead.
Exactly. The whole thing is a joke. We must do our due diligence and try to be a part of the process, but don't pretend the process is legit. We're there to show how much of a joke it is.
Yeah I don't understand why everything isn't on surveillance camera! And not like Epstein cameras, like everything recorded from all angles and livestreamed. Dude, the fucking casinos in Vegas can zoom in on a marked card at any table and send out security immediately. WTF.
That makes sense, I know a few older Ironwokers and Boilermakers and have heard stories about how they get lectured and "encouraged" to attend democrat events. One guy I know from school is the son of a higher up union guy. His dad said most of the guy he knows all vote Republican, but they have to kinda show face for dem shit.
But with the technology we have, there has to be a way to record what's going on. It's unacceptable not to have some sort of monitoring that is recorded and viewable to the public. I mean, we've seen the videos that do exist of poll workers ripping up Trump votes. And what about the exterior of the building?. If a marked Biden campaign van rolls up and starts unloading shit...
And I'm a very anti-surveillance state person. But when we're talking about stakes this high, fuck.
It’s in the election code law no video cameras or devices in the polling place or tabulation area.
This was when things were normal, and the viewer could look over the counter's shoulders. If you're going to change the rules to make people stand 60ft back, you'd better damned well change the rules about no cameras.
And to that end, even if there were no covid, WHY no cameras? What are they hiding? What's so important that a tabulator/counter can see it, but a recording device can't?
Wait, really? I don’t think so. Because they’re live-streaming it. As I’ve mentioned below, though, the cameras are all pointed to show you absolutely nothing of use. Almost mockingly so.
That makes logical sense. But if you look at the WI cameras, they’re so far back you couldn’t even see if someone set a ballot to the side on the table and then “forgot” to add it back to the final count, for example. Also, on Saturday I saw 6 links for live feeds, and only 2 of them even showed an image. (The others were having some sort of “technical difficulties.”)
The camera coverage is incompetent at best and intentionally concealing things at worst (likely).
The official justification is they dont' want you to tell the world "Jane Doe voted for candidate X" . We know they're using it to hide fraud, they know their using it to hide fraud, but they'll stick to that shred of legal basis.
FUCK THIS SHIT. Enough with the games! And why can't you videotape? What would they not want you to be able to review later on, that you could see with your own eyes while standing/sitting there?
I just can't wrap my head around how they're still trying to pull shenanigans and be all secretive about it, if they're trying to say that it's us MAGAtards who are being unreasonable then just have cameras so the whole world can see how ridiculous we're being, would be a total win for them?
I don't understand how their "rules" supersede the need for a valid review process. Like shoving people back, covering windows, making people use binoculars and stacking the review team to be 80% democrats seems like something anyone with half a brain would take a giant shit on.
My bullets vs their rules is gonna be a short fucking fight.
They [dems] don't give two shits about the police and would defund them given the chance, and Trump has been unwavering and has had law enforcement's back, yet there are po-po that let this shit happen right under their noses. Those fuckers are complicit.
Gotta record secretly then
Well can't have cameras cause then it would be "videoing" and that could be used as evidence against them far more than a he said she said.
The big reason though, is to get people mad. Cause if they can get some mad trump supporters on camera, they'll use it to further push down on anyone who does support him. Turning support for Trump into "hate speech" and making hate speech illegal.
At least now we know "who watches the watchers".
We should WELCOME conflict. Try kicking out all the observers and claiming this is a legitimate recount. Please.
Precisely but the dormant masses take a lot of pushing to start reacting adequately to abuse.
As long as they have their sportsball and McDonalds, they won't do anything.
Which is nothing unusual or unnatural, it's just the way shit goes, not everyone's made to be a fighter or a leader, someone has to perform other duties supportive of fighters and leaders. I'm sure I'm just stating the obvious...
MAGA movement has almost completely deteriorated ever since NFL goons started joining.
Went from action and memes to constant calls of unfulfilled violence. These country boys larp harder than Antifa about how they're going to use their guns to protect their freedom.
Like we don't need guns yet, but you maybe you jackasses could lineup football style, like your heroes, and and push your way through into that station with cameras rolling.
They won't though because they're all about sitting on their ass and having their buddies yak them up.
*edit: I've thrown out 4 comments over the past month attesting to the same thing hoping for some rebuttal: NFL cucks came here to get jacked off by their fellows after the world at large let them know that they're the Dunning Kruger effect incarnate, and they're dragging down the MAGA movement with their somebody else take action mentality. "Fuck off jerk, I've got work!" and "Back the blue, even if they're attacking you!" seem to be their rallying mantra.
Downvotes with no response other than basic REEEE, "pussy faggot" "go home nerd" low iq stuff. You guys barely make the memes anymore because you're becoming the memes instead.
That's what they did on election night yet they continue to pretend it's a legitimate election.
Exactly. The whole thing is a joke. We must do our due diligence and try to be a part of the process, but don't pretend the process is legit. We're there to show how much of a joke it is.
better video tapes than guns. Democrats seem to want an armed response.
It's like they're daring patriots to put them in body bags.
If we do, they won't be doing anything beyond voting democrat anymore. Heck, if we put enough of them in bags they won't even be voting anymore.
Yeah I don't understand why everything isn't on surveillance camera! And not like Epstein cameras, like everything recorded from all angles and livestreamed. Dude, the fucking casinos in Vegas can zoom in on a marked card at any table and send out security immediately. WTF.
And now the union workers are the ones counting the ballot.
That makes sense, I know a few older Ironwokers and Boilermakers and have heard stories about how they get lectured and "encouraged" to attend democrat events. One guy I know from school is the son of a higher up union guy. His dad said most of the guy he knows all vote Republican, but they have to kinda show face for dem shit.
But with the technology we have, there has to be a way to record what's going on. It's unacceptable not to have some sort of monitoring that is recorded and viewable to the public. I mean, we've seen the videos that do exist of poll workers ripping up Trump votes. And what about the exterior of the building?. If a marked Biden campaign van rolls up and starts unloading shit...
And I'm a very anti-surveillance state person. But when we're talking about stakes this high, fuck.
We need more privacy around campaign contributions. This is the new threat vector of attack.
This was when things were normal, and the viewer could look over the counter's shoulders. If you're going to change the rules to make people stand 60ft back, you'd better damned well change the rules about no cameras.
And to that end, even if there were no covid, WHY no cameras? What are they hiding? What's so important that a tabulator/counter can see it, but a recording device can't?
Watchers should put on bio hazard protective clothing and stand inches away to watch! Let's see how they react. :D
Wait, really? I don’t think so. Because they’re live-streaming it. As I’ve mentioned below, though, the cameras are all pointed to show you absolutely nothing of use. Almost mockingly so.
That makes logical sense. But if you look at the WI cameras, they’re so far back you couldn’t even see if someone set a ballot to the side on the table and then “forgot” to add it back to the final count, for example. Also, on Saturday I saw 6 links for live feeds, and only 2 of them even showed an image. (The others were having some sort of “technical difficulties.”)
The camera coverage is incompetent at best and intentionally concealing things at worst (likely).
The official justification is they dont' want you to tell the world "Jane Doe voted for candidate X" . We know they're using it to hide fraud, they know their using it to hide fraud, but they'll stick to that shred of legal basis.
Those ballots are disassociated from the caster, aren't they?