I am 100% not against other people praying/having beliefs, and I hate the "that's gatekeeping!" trend, but I'd say there are a large number of us who are atheist/agnostic/nothing, and that seems like an unnecessary qualification to be MAGA
^ This. I’m a non religious person, though I love Christianity, and I bowed my head in prayer with everyone at a Trump rally not too long ago for the first time in many years. It was an awkwardly long prayer where I had to peek to make sure I wasn’t the only one looking like they’re taking a nap, but it felt great.
This is not a PC board, as you can see. No one cares if someone's feels are hurt by freedom of speech. We don't simp for PC commie tactics used to destroy our culture, heritage & way of life. People are free to move on if they don't like seeing people publicly encouraged to pray. Caving to crap like this is what got this country into the mess it's in.
I agree with your entire comment, the difference being 'encouraged to pray' vs 'pray or you're not on the team'. Maybe I took their statement too literally, but my feelings aren't really 'hurt' either
Stuff like "please pray with me" or "please join me in prayer" is great. Continue to practice religion and encourage others to do so!
I really don't have any 'complaints' about this board at all. I'm glad its not PC and is full enthusiasm, and people can't say basically whatever they want without censorship. That use was free to voice their opinion, and I was able to disagree about the delivery/sentiment.
But I also don't think me saying "yes, encourage others to pray, live your life according to the bible, etc; but don't kick people off the Trump team just cause they don't pray" is "PC commie tactics"
This has gone waaaay farther than I meant it to, and is probably not productive at this point, so sorry bout that at least
I'm not trying to argue, and you and I will likely never agree on the existence of the divine or an actual hell, but that's fine. We're still united with the common goal of MAGA, exposing election fraud, covid fraud, etc
I grew up in the church, so I certainly understand the perspective you're coming from and that god's existence is an absolute fact, so you have no reason hold back
There was probably more frustration behind my words than intended since I clearly sparked some comments in return, so I apologize if it came off as an attack, but clearly the religious and non-religious can be united in this common goal
Nah don’t apologize. I was 100% agreeing with you (as a completely non-religious MAGA mofo.) There’s plenty of room for all of us on this train, regardless of religion or anything else. Some of us are just fed up with evil pieces of shit running everything in this country and we know GEOTUS is the only solution!
I’m an atheist. But I don’t take offense to nor do I feel alienated by expressions of religious beliefs by other Trump supporters. Devout Christians are amongst the strongest and most dedicated of Trump supporters and they build camaraderie and find solidarity through prayer. Moreover, even though I’m not a religious person, I recognize that western culture is largely based upon traditional Christian values that we all can agree upon.
bad headline, they said they wanted to hear public comment first. We'll see...I'm hopeful but won't be surprised if Van Langsdale or whatever his name is joins the libs...cross your fingers
I think the young fellow just needs some encouragement not to think it's his "duty" to fold. It's good that he didn't just vote yes in the first place. That would have been a cuck.
It says the two Republicans want to "hear peoples thoughts" on the matter, and others are saying they're going to change their vote. How do we make our voices heard to them? Are they going to revote?
The fact that he didn't actually vote yes is encouraging. He's thinking about his future and wants a reason to keep his refusal in place. That's my take at least.
Aaron Van Langevelde is arguing that he doesn't have authority to not certify. Actively trying to provide himself cover as to why he is going to certify. Just so you all stop stop smoking the hopium.
It will be 3-1 in favor of certifying. And no one will be happier than me if I am wrong.
Need to blanket Michigan media with paid advertisements publishing all of the instances of 'fishiness' in the voting process. If the info is out among the public, this Van guy won't have so much pressure on him to concede and vote to certify. Right now, he's looking at being a blade of glass in a windstorm type of situation with the Dem pressure on him right now.
According to Barnes this is strategy. They believe they can win with an audit of the signatures. But an audit can’t take place until after the certification. Don’t loose hope
Maybe he's posturing, and asking to be convinced that there's enough reason to keep his refusal in place. I want to give him a chance to see the light. I'm still hopeful that his failure to vote yes in the first place means he's a timid no who wants some moral support.
“Tell me what to think. Tell me I’m not alone. I’ve been entrusted at this moment with this duty, but I lack the courage of my convictions. Who am I kidding, what convictions?
Why subject yourself to public comments knowing how they treat people that disagree? You get threats, calls of racism and your family in jeopardy. Fuck them, they'll do anything to get their agenda.
Zero reason to take external input on this issue. If you saw some shit, are you like "well I saw some cheating, but let's consult with the public"
Republican Senate Majority Leader Mike Shirkey and Republican House Speaker Lee Chatfield: "The Senate and House Oversight Committees are actively engaged in a thorough review of Michigan’s elections process and we have faith in the committee process to provide greater transparency and accountability to our citizens. We have not yet been made aware of any information that would change the outcome of the election in Michigan and as legislative leaders, we will follow the law and follow the normal process regarding Michigan’s electors, just as we have said throughout this election."
Completely coordinated effort to ignore the fraud.
The Michigan Board of Canvassers is meeting right now. Based on the questions, both Dems and one Republican will likely vote to certify. The second Republican will likely not vote to certify.
Proceeding here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDuQquoM4sQ
Unless this is one of those “we are gonna vote against certification now, but change our minds before the end of the day” deals? I hate those.
☝️☝️☝️ This right here. I pray every day...for the future of our country and for those fearless Patriots who are fighting for us all.
Bless us O Lord, and these thy gifts,
Which we are about to receive, from thy bounty,
Through Christ, Our Lord.
Please God, please allow donald trump to remain in power for this term and his second- ever the strong and wiser and on the good side.
Please allow good to defeat evil, for the whole world to see.
Please allow all the election fraud to be exposed and for all media to have to acknowledge and report it.
Amen.
Amen.
So this is a religious-only subreddit/team then?
I am 100% not against other people praying/having beliefs, and I hate the "that's gatekeeping!" trend, but I'd say there are a large number of us who are atheist/agnostic/nothing, and that seems like an unnecessary qualification to be MAGA
Nothing of the kind. Saying "you're not on the team" is a common admonishment for people who are religious and are not praying.
I'm a very religious person, but anyone who supports POTUS is on my political team.
If that's the case, then yes, I was mistaken. Thanks for the explanation
In Mr. Torgue voice: REPAIR ATTEMPT SUCCEEDED!! BYOW!!
THAT SENTENCE HAS TOO MANY SYLLABLES!
APOLOGIZE!!!
Love Borderlands, but too bad Gear Software is now cucked.
Wanted to play BL:3 but didn't want to get cucked to the point where I'd have to start letting my wife have boyfriends.
No it's not.
Even if you are not religious, join us in our prayers.
^ This. I’m a non religious person, though I love Christianity, and I bowed my head in prayer with everyone at a Trump rally not too long ago for the first time in many years. It was an awkwardly long prayer where I had to peek to make sure I wasn’t the only one looking like they’re taking a nap, but it felt great.
Don't be a pansy. This is no place for politically correct statements.
I agree, and I didn't mean to come off as making a 'politically correct' statement
I'm "preaching the word" of Election Fraud, covid-fraud, etc as it were in my circles outside of here and trying to do my part 'for the team'
And of course I don't have a problem with religious commentary or ties to biblical events/prophecies here in discussions
but "pray or you're not one of us" isn't really a helpful sentiment IMO, especially for any newcomers that may be browsing
This is not a PC board, as you can see. No one cares if someone's feels are hurt by freedom of speech. We don't simp for PC commie tactics used to destroy our culture, heritage & way of life. People are free to move on if they don't like seeing people publicly encouraged to pray. Caving to crap like this is what got this country into the mess it's in.
I agree with your entire comment, the difference being 'encouraged to pray' vs 'pray or you're not on the team'. Maybe I took their statement too literally, but my feelings aren't really 'hurt' either
Stuff like "please pray with me" or "please join me in prayer" is great. Continue to practice religion and encourage others to do so!
Or like this post
https://thedonald.win/p/11QRyDqlfT/king-jesus--we-come-to-you-humbl/c/
That's great, religious freedom and expression
I really don't have any 'complaints' about this board at all. I'm glad its not PC and is full enthusiasm, and people can't say basically whatever they want without censorship. That use was free to voice their opinion, and I was able to disagree about the delivery/sentiment.
But I also don't think me saying "yes, encourage others to pray, live your life according to the bible, etc; but don't kick people off the Trump team just cause they don't pray" is "PC commie tactics"
This has gone waaaay farther than I meant it to, and is probably not productive at this point, so sorry bout that at least
Boom!
True but obviously it was a little exaggerated and who cares?
Lol thank you for this comment
I'm not trying to argue, and you and I will likely never agree on the existence of the divine or an actual hell, but that's fine. We're still united with the common goal of MAGA, exposing election fraud, covid fraud, etc
I grew up in the church, so I certainly understand the perspective you're coming from and that god's existence is an absolute fact, so you have no reason hold back
There was probably more frustration behind my words than intended since I clearly sparked some comments in return, so I apologize if it came off as an attack, but clearly the religious and non-religious can be united in this common goal
Nah don’t apologize. I was 100% agreeing with you (as a completely non-religious MAGA mofo.) There’s plenty of room for all of us on this train, regardless of religion or anything else. Some of us are just fed up with evil pieces of shit running everything in this country and we know GEOTUS is the only solution!
❤❤❤❤
I’m an atheist. But I don’t take offense to nor do I feel alienated by expressions of religious beliefs by other Trump supporters. Devout Christians are amongst the strongest and most dedicated of Trump supporters and they build camaraderie and find solidarity through prayer. Moreover, even though I’m not a religious person, I recognize that western culture is largely based upon traditional Christian values that we all can agree upon.
How many democrat death threats will it take for flip these ones?
bingo
Yup. That's what it was. No one has any spine in this country anymore.
this is de way
We need to stop celebrating. It ain't looking good with Van Langevelde. I hope I am wrong.
Lol.
Inb4 MI AG sends state troopers to their houses.
Declare political asylum
bad headline, they said they wanted to hear public comment first. We'll see...I'm hopeful but won't be surprised if Van Langsdale or whatever his name is joins the libs...cross your fingers
I think refusing to vote yes is as good as a no. We'll see.
but the headline is clickbait 2-2 is a false statement, when you read this you would think they already voted.
That was me calling it a 2-2 split. I think it's a split of sorts. Calling for comment provides cover for a formal no vote.
It certainly sounds like Van Langevelde is gonna cuck.
I think the young fellow just needs some encouragement not to think it's his "duty" to fold. It's good that he didn't just vote yes in the first place. That would have been a cuck.
Can we send him some positive and encouraging tweets?
We need to encourage him to ponder why they have a board with equal party representation, and why they vote at all.
Dean Knudson needs to give him a call.
And Bob! And Marge!
and now you know why your headline was shit
Thanks, jonnyy.
Live feed of zoom meeting: https://youtu.be/LDuQquoM4sQ
At the end, yes. I am just saying they haven't made a final decision yet; they just agreed to take public comment first. Or am I missing something?
Where do we send public comment??? We need to spam anti certification emails. The commies are surely already doing this!
Quick, what are the rules on certifying? Unanimous, majority...?
majority
Hold the line and give these heroes security, then.
It says the two Republicans want to "hear peoples thoughts" on the matter, and others are saying they're going to change their vote. How do we make our voices heard to them? Are they going to revote?
Maybe they just want to laugh at all the retards with green and purple hair calling them racist before they drop the guillotine lol
Is there a zoom call?
Live: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1TdCNU01zw
uhhh wtf? Why are there 2 separate people in the exact same room? She said she had a dire medical emergency and was in the hospital or something?
https://i.imgur.com/mseMf4k.png
The fact that he didn't actually vote yes is encouraging. He's thinking about his future and wants a reason to keep his refusal in place. That's my take at least.
Aaron Van Langevelde is arguing that he doesn't have authority to not certify. Actively trying to provide himself cover as to why he is going to certify. Just so you all stop stop smoking the hopium.
It will be 3-1 in favor of certifying. And no one will be happier than me if I am wrong.
But to be clear just because they certify doesn’t mean it’s over, once they certify it opens up to recount and audit.
CORRECT
Need to blanket Michigan media with paid advertisements publishing all of the instances of 'fishiness' in the voting process. If the info is out among the public, this Van guy won't have so much pressure on him to concede and vote to certify. Right now, he's looking at being a blade of glass in a windstorm type of situation with the Dem pressure on him right now.
If he doesn't have that authority, what is the purpose of his position? For fuck's sake, our side is stupid sometimes.
OR they aren't stupid, just corrupt
There we go, you knew it was coming! "If you don't vote to certify, you're RACIST!!!"
How strong was Western Civilization if it was destroyed by nothing more than the simple accusation of racism?
b b b but she thanked all the poll workers!!
Omg you made me lol
Van Langevelde is a traitor.
100%
He looks like an antifa fag
So they want to be viciously attacked and threatened by leftist before certifying. Smart move.
Wow that refusal to certify did not last long. Gave in within a couple hours.
Yes, I gave these two Michigan RINOs more credit than they deserved.
According to Barnes this is strategy. They believe they can win with an audit of the signatures. But an audit can’t take place until after the certification. Don’t loose hope
"Let me inspect this thing after I've certified it is accurate". What
I can get behind this, however, when they have been cooking the books for three weeks, (with zero oversight), it is not a good look for the home team.
Will their audit look like GA's recount? And WI swore their partial recount would be 100% transparent....whatever.
Fucking commies are dancing with death. They are in for an annoyingly big surprise once the shtf.
this better be why the certified
I almost got excited. But this is old news. They voted to certify.
Right. The RINOs were playing with us. More fool me!
They cucked
Under the laws of the State of Michigan the votes cannot be certified unless they balance.
Good, cuz they don't balance!
Van Langevelde is asking questions like he believes he has no choice here and is going to vote to certify
Maybe he's posturing, and asking to be convinced that there's enough reason to keep his refusal in place. I want to give him a chance to see the light. I'm still hopeful that his failure to vote yes in the first place means he's a timid no who wants some moral support.
GREAT NEWS!!!
wait it's not official yet
They cucked big time. Treason.
Democrat rep just called Palmer and the other certifier racist. They never quit with their bullshit.
I sat in on the live chat thru 8 or so of the 800.
They were all Democrats completely unfazed by the fraud.
They were all CNN watchers, and they were all reading scripts.
Coward.
“Tell me what to think. Tell me I’m not alone. I’ve been entrusted at this moment with this duty, but I lack the courage of my convictions. Who am I kidding, what convictions?
America’s future rests with cravens.
So what is the next step in MI?
Drag their sorry butts into federal court.
I'm hoping with every fiber in my body that the Republicans won't vote to certify. I can't tell if they'll do the right thing, though.
I'm hoping it'll be like that moment in the Grinch cartoon where his heart swells, except it'll be his balls.
Abstained? WTF???
The vote has been certified.
Yep, the Michigan cuck RINOs never disappoint, do they?
I don't just want to hear anyone share their thoughts. I want to hear from the Trump voters whose votes were given to Biden.
Imagine how angry they will be when they were robbed and betrayed and made to feel as if they helped Biden "win."
Whatever the outcome, this isn't going away.
Well then, just Dems and cucks in Michigan after all. Sorry if I got anybody's hopes up.
HOLD the line Republican heroes.
This stupid cunt talking, jesus christ.
Apparently we had a betrayal
If a public meeting exists, we must flood the lines
Why subject yourself to public comments knowing how they treat people that disagree? You get threats, calls of racism and your family in jeopardy. Fuck them, they'll do anything to get their agenda.
Zero reason to take external input on this issue. If you saw some shit, are you like "well I saw some cheating, but let's consult with the public"
They're spineless.
So is it 3-0 or 2-2??
It had the appearance of 2-2, then the Michigan RINOs reverted to form. On to court we go!
HOLD THE LINE!
Watch this live: https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/11/23/will-michigan-certify-election-results/6388530002/
Hopefully the GOP just wanted their their fill of being called racist and needed some good salt.
When does it go to the House?
They won't help us, nor will the Senate.
Republican Senate Majority Leader Mike Shirkey and Republican House Speaker Lee Chatfield: "The Senate and House Oversight Committees are actively engaged in a thorough review of Michigan’s elections process and we have faith in the committee process to provide greater transparency and accountability to our citizens. We have not yet been made aware of any information that would change the outcome of the election in Michigan and as legislative leaders, we will follow the law and follow the normal process regarding Michigan’s electors, just as we have said throughout this election."
Completely coordinated effort to ignore the fraud.
Source: https://upnorthlive.com/news/local/michigan-lawmakers-release-details-about-white-house-meeting-with-president-trump
I can't get over why he didn't just vote yes. Seems more like he's a no vote in need of some fortification.
What is the next step if they do not certify here?
SUE THE FUCK OUT OF THEM.
In fact, we probably already are.
Ummmm no there’s like 80 million
Democrat rep is saying count should be certified because counties with over 50% unbalanced votes were certified!!!
That just means the entire system is broken!!!
Yeah, this isn't true.
Aaron Van Langevelde just cucked out.
Can already tell you, Shill Media is reporting they certified the vote.
I thought the public hearing was kabuki, but the wobblies were actually looking for cover to let it pass.
The Michigan Board of Canvassers is meeting right now. Based on the questions, both Dems and one Republican will likely vote to certify. The second Republican will likely not vote to certify. Proceeding here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDuQquoM4sQ
rip
What happens if they certify?
They're pulling race card for Detroit, Philadelphia, Milwaukee. GRRRR!!!!