Be careful Patriot, you will be downvoted here for telling people to use logical reasoning.
I keep telling people that we need to present evidence that is able to submitted in a court of law. Unfortunately, I keep getting called a fucking doomer. In reality I spent my whole fucking year volunteering with the campaign in my area, and guess what? We won one of the most important states for GEOTUS' reelection. Like a good Catholic, I gave my time, talent, and treasure to this Country by way of military service and thereafter service to the campaign. I'm not a fucking doomer. I've done more to help the Trump campaign than post memes on a website.
Again, it's unfortunate, but I've come to the conclusion that a large portion of the population runs on pure emotion without giving way to logic and reason. Even here on TD (which I still fucking love btw), I see a whole lot of people acting like the commo-fascist fucks on r/politics.
Yeah, here people keep shifting the goalposts and not realizing it. "We'll get Arizona","Georgia won't certify","Michigan will audit", etc. They need to realize the scale of all the institutional powers against the american people, and the globalists won't magically be defeated by elements of the corrupt gov. machine(Legislatures & Courts). Its up to us to take back our country.
You're goddamn right it's up to us. Instead of wasting time calling people doomers (with absolutely no evidence), we should be preparing to hold the line. You are 100% correct about the institutional powers who are against conservatives.
People on this website forget, the media doesn't necessarily hate Trump, they hate you. And by you I mean you as a conservative. We've already had calls by mainstream journalists for conservatism to be treated like COVID and be eradicated from our culture. They want to treat you like a leper.
We need to fight the fuck back, not in-fight among ourselves. We are wasting resources by senselessly calling each other names.
It can be submitted. But I think I should have went a little deeper with my thought: We need to be able to submit evidence that is going to get a judge to rule in our favor. Unfortunately, that's a high bar. Most judges are normies or bought and paid off... all the more reason why the evidence needs to be clear, concise, and convincing enough to establish the fact that a crime and/or conspiracy has occurred, the likes of which our Country has never seen.
That's the thing a ton of people on TD aren't getting. We are not here to convince each other what happened. We all know what happened. Again, our evidence needs to be bullet proof enough to convince people who strictly think in evidentiary procedure to rule in our favor.
All in all, what I take issue with most is people on TD who go around, don't contribute, and fling insults to others in the community because they are trying to have an honest discourse. Sometimes there is info and situations in life we don't like; that's life. Hearing something you don't like doesn't mean you automatically divert to ad hominems... as far as I'm concerned, that's what the left does, and I won't participate in that no matter which side it comes from. If I won't tolerate it from one side, I'm not going to tolerate it on the other. I'm a strong Conservative first and foremost and this means I generally try to suppress my emotional response, and leave my thinking to fact and reason.
That’s not really my point though: the evidence we present still needs to be convincing enough that the court will rule in our favor. The burden of proof in a civil case is on the plaintiff (vs. a criminal where it lies with the prosecution, beyond a reasonable doubt) and in layman’s terms the plaintiff must prove and meet the preponderance of evidence threshold, e.g., 51% of the evidence shows something occurred.
Here’s the thing I want to reiterate from my previous comments: no matter the evidentiary threshold difference between a civil vs. criminal case, it is up to the judge to make a favorable judgement for our side. In reality, this is still an astonishingly hard thing to do, and even more so in an election case where we are looking to throw out / disqualify voters. Judges, whether it’s right or not, are extremely careful in these cases because they don’t want to be seen as apolitical. I’m not saying I agree with that, but that’s what the situation is right now.
Again, I know when I discuss what I think went on regarding voter fraud here on TD, I am more likely than not preaching to the choir. We don’t need to convince each other what happened, you and I are already on the same side and agreeable. We have to convince judges who “grew up” in the system, and even though they want to seem apolitical, are actually political and still carry bias. It’s very unfortunate and I wish I had an easy solution we can argue about back and forth. Our Country is fucking corrupt and it’s a gigantic hill to climb. (Not saying it can’t happen, but look at what Steve Bannon has been saying; we are trying to throw a Hail Mary, and luckily for us we have Doug Flutie as QB1–but it’s still a Hail Mary)
Be careful Patriot, you will be downvoted here for telling people to use logical reasoning.
I keep telling people that we need to present evidence that is able to submitted in a court of law. Unfortunately, I keep getting called a fucking doomer. In reality I spent my whole fucking year volunteering with the campaign in my area, and guess what? We won one of the most important states for GEOTUS' reelection. Like a good Catholic, I gave my time, talent, and treasure to this Country by way of military service and thereafter service to the campaign. I'm not a fucking doomer. I've done more to help the Trump campaign than post memes on a website.
Again, it's unfortunate, but I've come to the conclusion that a large portion of the population runs on pure emotion without giving way to logic and reason. Even here on TD (which I still fucking love btw), I see a whole lot of people acting like the commo-fascist fucks on r/politics.
Yeah, here people keep shifting the goalposts and not realizing it. "We'll get Arizona","Georgia won't certify","Michigan will audit", etc. They need to realize the scale of all the institutional powers against the american people, and the globalists won't magically be defeated by elements of the corrupt gov. machine(Legislatures & Courts). Its up to us to take back our country.
You're goddamn right it's up to us. Instead of wasting time calling people doomers (with absolutely no evidence), we should be preparing to hold the line. You are 100% correct about the institutional powers who are against conservatives.
People on this website forget, the media doesn't necessarily hate Trump, they hate you. And by you I mean you as a conservative. We've already had calls by mainstream journalists for conservatism to be treated like COVID and be eradicated from our culture. They want to treat you like a leper.
We need to fight the fuck back, not in-fight among ourselves. We are wasting resources by senselessly calling each other names.
It can be submitted. But I think I should have went a little deeper with my thought: We need to be able to submit evidence that is going to get a judge to rule in our favor. Unfortunately, that's a high bar. Most judges are normies or bought and paid off... all the more reason why the evidence needs to be clear, concise, and convincing enough to establish the fact that a crime and/or conspiracy has occurred, the likes of which our Country has never seen.
That's the thing a ton of people on TD aren't getting. We are not here to convince each other what happened. We all know what happened. Again, our evidence needs to be bullet proof enough to convince people who strictly think in evidentiary procedure to rule in our favor.
All in all, what I take issue with most is people on TD who go around, don't contribute, and fling insults to others in the community because they are trying to have an honest discourse. Sometimes there is info and situations in life we don't like; that's life. Hearing something you don't like doesn't mean you automatically divert to ad hominems... as far as I'm concerned, that's what the left does, and I won't participate in that no matter which side it comes from. If I won't tolerate it from one side, I'm not going to tolerate it on the other. I'm a strong Conservative first and foremost and this means I generally try to suppress my emotional response, and leave my thinking to fact and reason.
That’s not really my point though: the evidence we present still needs to be convincing enough that the court will rule in our favor. The burden of proof in a civil case is on the plaintiff (vs. a criminal where it lies with the prosecution, beyond a reasonable doubt) and in layman’s terms the plaintiff must prove and meet the preponderance of evidence threshold, e.g., 51% of the evidence shows something occurred.
Here’s the thing I want to reiterate from my previous comments: no matter the evidentiary threshold difference between a civil vs. criminal case, it is up to the judge to make a favorable judgement for our side. In reality, this is still an astonishingly hard thing to do, and even more so in an election case where we are looking to throw out / disqualify voters. Judges, whether it’s right or not, are extremely careful in these cases because they don’t want to be seen as apolitical. I’m not saying I agree with that, but that’s what the situation is right now.
Again, I know when I discuss what I think went on regarding voter fraud here on TD, I am more likely than not preaching to the choir. We don’t need to convince each other what happened, you and I are already on the same side and agreeable. We have to convince judges who “grew up” in the system, and even though they want to seem apolitical, are actually political and still carry bias. It’s very unfortunate and I wish I had an easy solution we can argue about back and forth. Our Country is fucking corrupt and it’s a gigantic hill to climb. (Not saying it can’t happen, but look at what Steve Bannon has been saying; we are trying to throw a Hail Mary, and luckily for us we have Doug Flutie as QB1–but it’s still a Hail Mary)