Actually, that isn't true. Even if SCOTUS kicks the can down the road (which IMO they will do), it simply means it goes to the house for a vote.
Once the house votes, it's a true electoral college election wherein each state gets ONE vote. In such a case, Trump will win 35/50 states.
I don't think SCOTUS will have the balls to rule on this one way or the other. They hate this kind of shit. That's why sending it to the house is a likely outcome.
if SCOTUS sides with us, than your scenario is correct. SCOTUS cannot reassign electoral votes to Trump, they can only rule whether or not the elections in these states were legal or not.
So if we win in SCOTUS, it will still require the legislature of each of these states to than take up the mandate given to them by SCOTUS and not certify the votes.
So let me clarify - our path to victory rests on SCOTUS siding with us on 3 separate state elections... and than all the Republicans in legislature in those states not cucking out.
But if SCOTUS rules against us, there is no way in hell that 3 separate states of Republicans to suddenly rally to team MAGA and refuse to certify an election that SCOTUS did not deem illegal. That just will not ever happen. We are talking about several hundred Republicans - a party legendary for cucking under pressure - to stand up in the most brazen act of political defiance since the times of civil war.
you are also wrong and Alito has already shown SCOTUS intentions.
The case going to SCOTUS from PA will invalidate all ballots received after 8pm election night and even Dershowitz thinks its a shoe-in.
The other states have similar issues.
If SCOTUS rules that these rules imposed by these states were unconstitutional (they were) then you are suggesting that these legislatures will knowingly certify ballots deemed ILLEGAL by SCOTUS. i dont think so.
i've read Alito's court orders and I also watched his speech to that judicial society. I am 99.999% sure he will side with Trump.
Can't help but notice though that he seems to be the only SCOTUS judge that opened his mouth on the matter over last month.
But you are right, one thing we have going for us that's very different from 2000 is that we are likely to get a SCOTUS ruling before legislature certifies the state votes. That really does make this upcoming case a whole other ball game in terms of ramifications.
Obviously the SCOTUS will have to make a ruling. My point was that they won't be able to throw out the election results. The best they can do is kick it to the house for us.
My apologies if I misworded that, but I am agreeing with you. My response was to point out that even in our best win scenario, SCOTUS isn't the final stop, which was implied by your earlier post.
I thought you were under the impression this fight ends at SCOTUS.
There are two outcomes. Either scotus shrugs, and it ends there, or they invalidate results AND send it to the house.
There is no situation in which scotus directly crowns a king here. They either leave it alone or send it along.
It goes to the House if State electors don't give either candidate a winning 270 by 12/14. Courts have til 12/14 to straighten out the election fraud. Nobody has heard any evidence yet, nor do we know that Courts will.
Don't pretend to know what they will do. Focus on what we/you must do.
I'm all on-board with anything that forces Pelosi to make yet another walk of shame. She got a lot of that in 2019 and then things were quiet this year.
Actually, that isn't true. Even if SCOTUS kicks the can down the road (which IMO they will do), it simply means it goes to the house for a vote.
Once the house votes, it's a true electoral college election wherein each state gets ONE vote. In such a case, Trump will win 35/50 states.
I don't think SCOTUS will have the balls to rule on this one way or the other. They hate this kind of shit. That's why sending it to the house is a likely outcome.
you are wrong.
if SCOTUS sides with us, than your scenario is correct. SCOTUS cannot reassign electoral votes to Trump, they can only rule whether or not the elections in these states were legal or not.
So if we win in SCOTUS, it will still require the legislature of each of these states to than take up the mandate given to them by SCOTUS and not certify the votes.
So let me clarify - our path to victory rests on SCOTUS siding with us on 3 separate state elections... and than all the Republicans in legislature in those states not cucking out.
But if SCOTUS rules against us, there is no way in hell that 3 separate states of Republicans to suddenly rally to team MAGA and refuse to certify an election that SCOTUS did not deem illegal. That just will not ever happen. We are talking about several hundred Republicans - a party legendary for cucking under pressure - to stand up in the most brazen act of political defiance since the times of civil war.
you are also wrong and Alito has already shown SCOTUS intentions.
The case going to SCOTUS from PA will invalidate all ballots received after 8pm election night and even Dershowitz thinks its a shoe-in.
The other states have similar issues.
If SCOTUS rules that these rules imposed by these states were unconstitutional (they were) then you are suggesting that these legislatures will knowingly certify ballots deemed ILLEGAL by SCOTUS. i dont think so.
i've read Alito's court orders and I also watched his speech to that judicial society. I am 99.999% sure he will side with Trump.
Can't help but notice though that he seems to be the only SCOTUS judge that opened his mouth on the matter over last month.
But you are right, one thing we have going for us that's very different from 2000 is that we are likely to get a SCOTUS ruling before legislature certifies the state votes. That really does make this upcoming case a whole other ball game in terms of ramifications.
Hope endures.
It isn't siding with Trump though, it is siding with the law, the Constitution, and the god damn Republic.
Obviously the SCOTUS will have to make a ruling. My point was that they won't be able to throw out the election results. The best they can do is kick it to the house for us.
My apologies if I misworded that, but I am agreeing with you. My response was to point out that even in our best win scenario, SCOTUS isn't the final stop, which was implied by your earlier post.
I thought you were under the impression this fight ends at SCOTUS.
There are two outcomes. Either scotus shrugs, and it ends there, or they invalidate results AND send it to the house.
There is no situation in which scotus directly crowns a king here. They either leave it alone or send it along.
He wont win all 35.., maybe 32-33 , someone will flake
It goes to the House if State electors don't give either candidate a winning 270 by 12/14. Courts have til 12/14 to straighten out the election fraud. Nobody has heard any evidence yet, nor do we know that Courts will.
Don't pretend to know what they will do. Focus on what we/you must do.
I'm all on-board with anything that forces Pelosi to make yet another walk of shame. She got a lot of that in 2019 and then things were quiet this year.
If SCOTUS doesn't rule then the certification remains for Biden and we lose
Yep. Certifications matter.