I work hard, live with minimal expenses (no car, cheap flat, no alcohol, no drugs, no family), have an average wage (C# developer, third year), and accrue ~8000€ per year. Yeah, quasi-slave wages in Germany ftw. I expect a wage increase of 10% if I am "lucky."
And this corrupt, incompetent FUCK has expenses exceeding 50k a month? Just pure abuse of power and nepotism. And his demented piece of shit of a dad, barely tethered in reality, attempts to steal an election and the ENTIRE POWERS THAT BE back him up?
Minimum income if you work ~36-40 hours/week in germany is ~19k/year + like 15% additional stuff if you have a contract (like holiday pay etc.), makes it 21,5k You pay next to none taxes and you get a lot of benefits/support, ending up living with ~22-25k/year minimum.
In comparision, if you do not work in the netherlands, you get ~1,1k/month, roughly 13k/year (pay 1k back to some health care related stuff, but it's sorta tax) and a lot of benefits, ending up near 14-17k/year depending on support, from insurance to housing/child. Minimum income in the netherlands is similair to germany.
All together it's very doable for someone without work/living on minimum wage, and you have a lot less workhours, and more holidays. It's a minimum for a reason.
I am a Dutch student, I do not borrow any money. Tuition fee is 2k/year. I pay ~5,45% taxes, a little more if i can't deduct everything, but the target is to decuded everything. I work freelance (so i can pinpoint my own income), but i target to make a little under minimum income, so i get maximum in benefits, minimum in taxes, which is around 16,6k/year after cost reduction, which is under 1k taxes (offcially it's mainly to pay healthy care, but it's grouped together in taxes).
I get 3k housing support/year, and 1,3k insurance support/year. I can roughly live off 21,5k/year. Of which 2k is tuition, and 8k is rent (live in amsterdam in a nice place, but it's not cheap), 1,3k insurance (equal to the support), and 1k taxes. So that leaves me to live off 9k/year as student. I spend 6k of that. And i save roughly 3k/year. On bellow minimum wage. If i had no own capital I could get more reductions on stuff like watertax, and municiplity/garbage tax (which i didn't include, it's like 400 bucks/year idk)
It's actually ridiculous because there's no incentive to work/earn more, because all the benefits quickly decrease, and the taxes only increase, i've calculated that for every additional euro i earn, I net benefit like 15-25 cents. While up and till the point where I currently I am, it's between 88-94 cents. The difference suddenly becomes huge.
The welfare trap is real. Most people don't bother to calculate the disincentive to earn more, but I think it's something most welfare recipients inherently know.
I work hard, live with minimal expenses (no car, cheap flat, no alcohol, no drugs, no family), have an average wage (C# developer, third year), and accrue ~8000€ per year. Yeah, quasi-slave wages in Germany ftw. I expect a wage increase of 10% if I am "lucky."
And this corrupt, incompetent FUCK has expenses exceeding 50k a month? Just pure abuse of power and nepotism. And his demented piece of shit of a dad, barely tethered in reality, attempts to steal an election and the ENTIRE POWERS THAT BE back him up?
Wait are you saying you only make 8k per year or that you save that much per year?
Minimum income if you work ~36-40 hours/week in germany is ~19k/year + like 15% additional stuff if you have a contract (like holiday pay etc.), makes it 21,5k You pay next to none taxes and you get a lot of benefits/support, ending up living with ~22-25k/year minimum.
In comparision, if you do not work in the netherlands, you get ~1,1k/month, roughly 13k/year (pay 1k back to some health care related stuff, but it's sorta tax) and a lot of benefits, ending up near 14-17k/year depending on support, from insurance to housing/child. Minimum income in the netherlands is similair to germany.
All together it's very doable for someone without work/living on minimum wage, and you have a lot less workhours, and more holidays. It's a minimum for a reason.
I am a Dutch student, I do not borrow any money. Tuition fee is 2k/year. I pay ~5,45% taxes, a little more if i can't deduct everything, but the target is to decuded everything. I work freelance (so i can pinpoint my own income), but i target to make a little under minimum income, so i get maximum in benefits, minimum in taxes, which is around 16,6k/year after cost reduction, which is under 1k taxes (offcially it's mainly to pay healthy care, but it's grouped together in taxes).
I get 3k housing support/year, and 1,3k insurance support/year. I can roughly live off 21,5k/year. Of which 2k is tuition, and 8k is rent (live in amsterdam in a nice place, but it's not cheap), 1,3k insurance (equal to the support), and 1k taxes. So that leaves me to live off 9k/year as student. I spend 6k of that. And i save roughly 3k/year. On bellow minimum wage. If i had no own capital I could get more reductions on stuff like watertax, and municiplity/garbage tax (which i didn't include, it's like 400 bucks/year idk)
It's actually ridiculous because there's no incentive to work/earn more, because all the benefits quickly decrease, and the taxes only increase, i've calculated that for every additional euro i earn, I net benefit like 15-25 cents. While up and till the point where I currently I am, it's between 88-94 cents. The difference suddenly becomes huge.
The welfare trap is real. Most people don't bother to calculate the disincentive to earn more, but I think it's something most welfare recipients inherently know.