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Woops, additional 138.000 votes turned up simultaneously for the polls who do not believe there was rigging. Now only 0.7% of Democrats believe there was rigging.
This is just a trivia point, but I am genuinely curious: are there actually any laws on the books that explicitly prevent dead people from voting? This strikes me as one of those areas that is so obvious no one bothers to outlaw it until someone actually goes full retard and does it.
As a practical matter being dead makes it really hard to register and actually cast a vote, so at least the vast majority of votes by dead people are certainly fraudulent for reasons unrelated to them being dead -- specifically someone else is fraudulently registering and casting the vote.
Still, it makes me wonder. Are there any edge cases where a dead person could in fact cast a legally valid vote?
I know that there are at least a few states where otherwise legal mail ins have to be discarded when the voter passes away prior to election day -- and I know that they are pretty good about enforcing this (no surprise, since the elderly are more likely to die, and they skew conservative).
Presumably the same thing would apply to voters convicted of a felony between casting a vote and election day. Something tells me this is less strictly enforced.
They love power. And money. Even though they pretend to care about children, women, minorities, the environment. They used to pretend to care about civil rights and rogue spy agencies.
That's what pisses me off. They've thrown baseless accusations of racism, bigotry, homophobia, transphobia at DJT for five years. They've called him a pedophile and a rapist. I've never been able to get one of these people to provide actual evidence of these claims other than a few quotes without context, travel restrictions which weren't actually a "ban" on muslims, and not wanting men who believe they are women to serve in the military. If they held ANY of their own politicians to the same standards I could almost "respect" it but instead you get people like Omar, Hillary, Northam, and a guy who didn't want his children going to school in "racial jungles."
The dems and their handlers have done an amazing job at warping the average normie's mind over the last 60 years.
The entirety of their evidence: "Look! Two pictures of Donald Trump in the same room as Jeffrey Epstein, eight years before he was ever accused of being a pedophile!"
My counter: "Ah, you mean eight years before Donald Trump threw him out of his clubs for trying stuff with underage girls, and went to the police, which resulted in Epstein's first Pedophilia Arrest, which was swept under the rug by the Clinton Administration, probably because Bill Clinton flew on the Lolita Express to Child Rape Island 28 times?"
This isn't totally contradictory. They care about children, women, minorities and the environment -- in other words slaves and land. Money and power are great ways to secure these values.
If you ask them if the DNC was rigged against Bernie they agree. Also, many of them agree that the general election was rigged as well.
Time to exercise our second amendment right to form and maintain militias. Let Trump continue to work on his Constitutional process while we exercise our Constitution natural right to bear arms (carry) and maintain militias.
This just means 21% of the people who voted Trump are Dems. These 21% are the people who dont like Trump, dont follow alternative news (only fox cnn etc), but still voted for him because fuck Biden. I've spoken to Bernie bro's etc that vote trump because hurr durr deepstate fucked Bernie, but also hurr durr no election fraud because that dont happen even tho it happened to Burnie - these people are in the 21% category
I think the 21% is mostly Wall Street Journal/daytime Fox News Republicans. These people still think Bush, the RNC and Romney are pretty good, but voted Trump.
100% believe it was stolen (even Dems know deep down they stole it). You can ask a leftist, “If you could stop Hitler from being in power, would you throw away some papers, knowing you wouldn’t get caught?” If they say no, they’re lying. They truly believe Trump is “Orange Hitler” and they have been saying “remove him whatever it takes” for 4 years. Hell, do people not remember they tried a sham impeachment over nothing just earlier this year? What would stop them from throwing away a ballot here or there or filling in a few Biden bubbles when no one is peeking?
That 21% are just people on the right who are terrified to admit what they know, because that means the system itself has to come down, and that’s a scary thought.
This is definitely it. We see our country falling apart and 20% would rather give in to try to maintain stability rather than stand up for what is right come what may.
I believe the election was stolen but I still watch the primetime fox news shows. I've been expanding my viewing to real america's voice and newsmax more recently though.
My guess is that they are normie conservatives who still believe in the election process and don't really follow the news much. They are Trump supporters but have this illusion that elections are still free and fair.
right. these are generally the same old boomers who haven't realized how significantly things have changed because they haven't been paying any attention
In my experience these same people also voted for Trump literally just because he was the Republican candidate and don't know anything about the man, or the movement. They'd vote for whoever the GOP puts up in 2024 since they also voted for Mitt Romney and John McCain and feel no ounce of regret or remorse over that.
They also tend to be the people who say "I like him but does he have to tweet so much?"
If they get away with this, the only “conservative” that will ever win again will be the one they want to win. RINOs, probably some dingbat like Romney.
Nailed it. Many such cases. I've been trying to red pill them, to almost no avail. Normies are like the dog in the burning house meme. They will believe everything is fine to their dying breath.
That's a good gut reaction, but 80% of people agreeing to something like this is sufficiently high that this doesn't quite check out. Far more than 20% of conservatives are normie conservatives. That's why we call them normies, they are normal!
There are also other groups who don't traditionally vote conservative, but who may have voted for Trump lazily:
People who are engaged mostly in a race downballot may not really care about the Presidential race.
People who voted Trump for one issue may not see problems with the process. (In 2016 I voted Trump for exactly one issue! One issue voters aren't uncommon.)
People may have misresponded to the poll if they weren't paying attention. This is surprisingly common. This sort of thing is why you see surprisingly large numbers of people failing to correctly answer a common knowledge question on polls.
Or they haven't managed to swallow the very bitter redpill that our electoral system is thoroughly compromised and has been for a long time. They can't bring themselves to admit we don't have fair and free elections yet.
Yesterday I come home from the gym and there's a guy picking up leaves. Has the radio on. BLARING. And it's all about election fraud. Guy is basically blasting the radio while he goes street to street picking up bags of leaves and 1.) listening to people call in complaining about Biden stealing the election. 2.) red pilling the entire town. Loved it!
The irony here is that, even if POTUS did lose the re-election bid (I don’t think so, hear me out), It is still almost undeniable that this election had an outcome influenced by fraud in some way. There needs to be immediate action to ensure that such fraud never takes place again.
I suspect the 21% includes dems saying they are republicans, people just fucking with the pollster, the profoundly ignorant, and the profoundly stupid.
WE ALL KNOW IT. BELIEVE YOUR EYES FOR WHAT YOU SAW ELECTION #NIGHT. NEVER FORGET HOW THEY STOPPED THE COUNT AND THEN #ADDED HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF BIDEN ONLY VOTES IN THE #MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.
Why wouldn’t you believe that? All media and the enablers didn’t look at a single piece of evidence and yet declared “fair election”. Not a shred of curiosity.
I know some. They know it was stolen, but the idea that our vote is worthless is too scary for them to accept. So they keep telling themselves it must be legitimate.
According to this poll, what do the other 21% believe? That Biden is so popular that his 4 6-person Jeep sponsored car rallies won over the people? That the majority of Americans love listening to an old pedofile slur and stutter? That the majority is ok with communism and racism and BLM riots? Trump supporters aren't that stupid.
Should be 100%. Blatant fraud is blatant. The real issue is that we have enemies on both sides of the isle. We've been completely infiltrated. We are at war.
This is why I see people in my town still have Trump signs up. They know this isn't over. Meanwhile the few who had Biden signs up have taken them all down.
True. It’s 100% believe it was rigged.
It’s probably more like 400% of Democrats. They always have amazing turnout.
Woops, additional 138.000 votes turned up simultaneously for the polls who do not believe there was rigging. Now only 0.7% of Democrats believe there was rigging.
There are still 5 million outstanding ballots but the Decision Desk has called it for "not rigged".
The other 21% said ‘stolen? Nah, they ain’t stole nothin’ ‘less they get away wit’ it. And they ain’ gittin ‘way.’ *Shotgun sounds
Pollster: ’okay, thanks, I’ve got you down as a no’
Made me laugh out loud
even dead voters believe it was rigged
😎👌
This is just a trivia point, but I am genuinely curious: are there actually any laws on the books that explicitly prevent dead people from voting? This strikes me as one of those areas that is so obvious no one bothers to outlaw it until someone actually goes full retard and does it.
As a practical matter being dead makes it really hard to register and actually cast a vote, so at least the vast majority of votes by dead people are certainly fraudulent for reasons unrelated to them being dead -- specifically someone else is fraudulently registering and casting the vote.
Still, it makes me wonder. Are there any edge cases where a dead person could in fact cast a legally valid vote?
As I am not a lawyer, I have no clue but it would be interesting to debate.
A dead person can not express a will, maybe through a testament/last will, voting could be possible with a notary, but this is pure speculation
I know that there are at least a few states where otherwise legal mail ins have to be discarded when the voter passes away prior to election day -- and I know that they are pretty good about enforcing this (no surprise, since the elderly are more likely to die, and they skew conservative).
Presumably the same thing would apply to voters convicted of a felony between casting a vote and election day. Something tells me this is less strictly enforced.
I mean when most of them rose from the dead to vote they obviously know it's fraud
They love power. And money. Even though they pretend to care about children, women, minorities, the environment. They used to pretend to care about civil rights and rogue spy agencies.
That's what pisses me off. They've thrown baseless accusations of racism, bigotry, homophobia, transphobia at DJT for five years. They've called him a pedophile and a rapist. I've never been able to get one of these people to provide actual evidence of these claims other than a few quotes without context, travel restrictions which weren't actually a "ban" on muslims, and not wanting men who believe they are women to serve in the military. If they held ANY of their own politicians to the same standards I could almost "respect" it but instead you get people like Omar, Hillary, Northam, and a guy who didn't want his children going to school in "racial jungles." The dems and their handlers have done an amazing job at warping the average normie's mind over the last 60 years.
The entirety of their evidence: "Look! Two pictures of Donald Trump in the same room as Jeffrey Epstein, eight years before he was ever accused of being a pedophile!"
My counter: "Ah, you mean eight years before Donald Trump threw him out of his clubs for trying stuff with underage girls, and went to the police, which resulted in Epstein's first Pedophilia Arrest, which was swept under the rug by the Clinton Administration, probably because Bill Clinton flew on the Lolita Express to Child Rape Island 28 times?"
Their reply: "NAZI!"
Honestly, I've had that used against me too, said what you did, and they shut down and just laugh. Amazing.
It is like the mother of all psyops, isn't it? How can so many people just buy their bullshit?
Ding, ding, ding!
This isn't totally contradictory. They care about children, women, minorities and the environment -- in other words slaves and land. Money and power are great ways to secure these values.
They were PRAYING it would be rigged after seeing Joes rallys!
If you ask them if the DNC was rigged against Bernie they agree. Also, many of them agree that the general election was rigged as well.
Time to exercise our second amendment right to form and maintain militias. Let Trump continue to work on his Constitutional process while we exercise our Constitution natural right to bear arms (carry) and maintain militias.
Id say 99.5%. Because in every family there is a stragler idiot.
If we go by the votes versus registered voter data, its more like 110%
"TRUMP IS PROJECTED TO LOSE BY 17 POINTS"
oh wait
Once the Kraken is realized out it will be 100 percent of Trump supporters
always has been 100%. fuck these polls!
Exactly. I would think it would be closer to 95 to 100% of a Trump voter who thinks this.
Polls always underestimate the voter who is on the Right.
This just means 21% of the people who voted Trump are Dems. These 21% are the people who dont like Trump, dont follow alternative news (only fox cnn etc), but still voted for him because fuck Biden. I've spoken to Bernie bro's etc that vote trump because hurr durr deepstate fucked Bernie, but also hurr durr no election fraud because that dont happen even tho it happened to Burnie - these people are in the 21% category
I think the 21% is mostly Wall Street Journal/daytime Fox News Republicans. These people still think Bush, the RNC and Romney are pretty good, but voted Trump.
This. Besides, I've seen a lot of polls where this question is asked andd the responses are all over the map.
21% watch Cucker Tarlson.
21% are scared what it would mean to accept that our election system is not trustworthy.
This is it entirely.
100% believe it was stolen (even Dems know deep down they stole it). You can ask a leftist, “If you could stop Hitler from being in power, would you throw away some papers, knowing you wouldn’t get caught?” If they say no, they’re lying. They truly believe Trump is “Orange Hitler” and they have been saying “remove him whatever it takes” for 4 years. Hell, do people not remember they tried a sham impeachment over nothing just earlier this year? What would stop them from throwing away a ballot here or there or filling in a few Biden bubbles when no one is peeking?
That 21% are just people on the right who are terrified to admit what they know, because that means the system itself has to come down, and that’s a scary thought.
This is definitely it. We see our country falling apart and 20% would rather give in to try to maintain stability rather than stand up for what is right come what may.
you actually believe any of these polls? c' mon man!
21% had their vote switched during the tally.
I believe the election was stolen but I still watch the primetime fox news shows. I've been expanding my viewing to real america's voice and newsmax more recently though.
That's Cucker Foreskin.
Proud Member of the 79%!
Polls are bullshit
Fox news.
My guess is that they are normie conservatives who still believe in the election process and don't really follow the news much. They are Trump supporters but have this illusion that elections are still free and fair.
It's the same people believing we'll be able to win another election. They live in fantasy land.
right. these are generally the same old boomers who haven't realized how significantly things have changed because they haven't been paying any attention
eventually some klingon woman will come over and harass them and then they get red pilled over that but it's usually too late
Can confirm. Live with boomers who think exactly like this. Sweet summer child.
In my experience these same people also voted for Trump literally just because he was the Republican candidate and don't know anything about the man, or the movement. They'd vote for whoever the GOP puts up in 2024 since they also voted for Mitt Romney and John McCain and feel no ounce of regret or remorse over that.
They also tend to be the people who say "I like him but does he have to tweet so much?"
Ann colter is the worst. she hates and loves Trump at the same time. she wants Trumpism without Trump without realizing that it is not possible.
If they get away with this, the only “conservative” that will ever win again will be the one they want to win. RINOs, probably some dingbat like Romney.
Nailed it. Many such cases. I've been trying to red pill them, to almost no avail. Normies are like the dog in the burning house meme. They will believe everything is fine to their dying breath.
America will last forever, the Constitution is imbued with magical powers.
Those kinds of people.
That's a good gut reaction, but 80% of people agreeing to something like this is sufficiently high that this doesn't quite check out. Far more than 20% of conservatives are normie conservatives. That's why we call them normies, they are normal!
There are also other groups who don't traditionally vote conservative, but who may have voted for Trump lazily:
And if they do follow news it is mainstream news. These people would be happy to vote for a Romney.
They just aren’t on TD.W yet
Probably on the fence
79% seems VERY low. More like 99.9%
That tells me 21% are Democrats. All Republicans believe.
All Lion Party believe.
LOL @ pic OP... I guess 1 in 5 mouth breathers is better than the other side.
For a second I thought DJT tweeted that pic lmao could you imagine
21% don't YET believe election was stolen, because they are still glued to Fauxnews.
Or they haven't managed to swallow the very bitter redpill that our electoral system is thoroughly compromised and has been for a long time. They can't bring themselves to admit we don't have fair and free elections yet.
Kek
If some poll says 79% then it must be 99%.
That 21% thinks it isn't stolen in the sense that they are attempting to steal it but it's not stolen yet
The same people predicting that blue wave do these polls? 🖕🏼 GTFO
Sounds fair. Not all Trump voters are hardcore supporters.
Those 21% are likely those voters who voted for Trump over Biden either coz of their wallets or they just don't like Biden.
Not everyone is going to hold the line for Trump. 73M x 79% = 57.6M
If 100% of Trump voters believed the election was stolen, then Fox News would have collapsed to 0 ratings by now.
30% of Democrats also believe it was rigged and stolen.
Vast majority
Yesterday I come home from the gym and there's a guy picking up leaves. Has the radio on. BLARING. And it's all about election fraud. Guy is basically blasting the radio while he goes street to street picking up bags of leaves and 1.) listening to people call in complaining about Biden stealing the election. 2.) red pilling the entire town. Loved it!
Ironically, that meme with Pepe holding Apu's hand was created on /pol/ to insult r/The_Donald.
https://i.ibb.co/ZNV2DCd/1550716455551.jpg
We repurpose memes all the time. Like leftist memes.
The irony here is that, even if POTUS did lose the re-election bid (I don’t think so, hear me out), It is still almost undeniable that this election had an outcome influenced by fraud in some way. There needs to be immediate action to ensure that such fraud never takes place again.
I suspect the 21% includes dems saying they are republicans, people just fucking with the pollster, the profoundly ignorant, and the profoundly stupid.
The other 21% also agree but did not want to say so on the phome
Fukkin 21%'ers
79% of the time it works every time.
You gotta pump those numbers up, those are rookie numbers!
Thank you throwaway, had a great laugh! :D
I don't believe it.
I KNOW IT.
WE ALL KNOW IT. BELIEVE YOUR EYES FOR WHAT YOU SAW ELECTION #NIGHT. NEVER FORGET HOW THEY STOPPED THE COUNT AND THEN #ADDED HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF BIDEN ONLY VOTES IN THE #MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.
STOP THE STEAL
Remember, much the 21% is Burned Out Bernie Voters who went Trump in 2016 and the rest are RINO's.
Why wouldn’t you believe that? All media and the enablers didn’t look at a single piece of evidence and yet declared “fair election”. Not a shred of curiosity.
This attempted election steal is insulting as hell. No one with a brain believes this drooling old fool got 80 million votes....
Only 79%? Pretty sure it's about 100%.
I know some. They know it was stolen, but the idea that our vote is worthless is too scary for them to accept. So they keep telling themselves it must be legitimate.
21% are boomers watching Fox News
According to this poll, what do the other 21% believe? That Biden is so popular that his 4 6-person Jeep sponsored car rallies won over the people? That the majority of Americans love listening to an old pedofile slur and stutter? That the majority is ok with communism and racism and BLM riots? Trump supporters aren't that stupid.
I dispute this claim as well. The other 21% obviously weren't Trump voters.
21% are too scared of what these events mean for this country
LOL more like 2.1%.
"Oops, decimals are hard when journalists are so soft!" - Pollster, probably
That picture gets me every time. Funny how such a primitive drawing can still capture the essence of a thought or feeling.
I'm pretty sure is 100.
All of the dems I’ve spoken too think it was stolen as well.
Should be 100%. Blatant fraud is blatant. The real issue is that we have enemies on both sides of the isle. We've been completely infiltrated. We are at war.
This is why I see people in my town still have Trump signs up. They know this isn't over. Meanwhile the few who had Biden signs up have taken them all down.
Guess what? We didn’t get polled. 100% of Trump voters believe election was stolen.
Twitter half endorsed Trump on that one with a blue notification instead of a red one. I feel safer.
21% need a damn slap!
The same 21% that gave us the Iraq War!!!
Also 80% if Biden voters (not votes) believe the election was stolen.
Source?
I'm the source