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Agree. Because we're all individuals with our own brains and discernment. So annoying when people paint with a broad brush, like Italians Invented 2A. To me, anyway, people like him are immediately suspect.
Immigration is useful so long as it remains illegal.
Tariffs ARE a barrier to trade.
You have been an entertaining contrarian but you constantly frame things out of context.
Immigration IS useful for certain purposes. It remains the clearest way to make our farms competitive however hiring abuses and failure to hold employers accountable for hiring illegals is a failure of all political parties to the detriment of the populace.
Tariffs ARE a barrier to trade and though we've played fairly honestly since Friedman's time, we've also been abused by our trade "allies".
Certain traits of the globalist agenda are inevitable and the only way to preserve our culture is to create that strong conservative identity to face such challenges.
The problem isn’t that we don’t stand for free trade. We do. As long as it’s ACTUALLY FREE. In that way we stand for fair trade. The problem is our trade often is not free with them dumping and using non tariff trade barriers to make it more difficult for Americans.
You're an elitist devoid of true conservative experience. Are you even American, in the full sense of the word? Perhaps you should check yourself, pally.
And Bannon is back helping the movement. Trying to keep peope on this site from acting like bunch of whiney school girls. Which is Bannon's own words not mines. haha
he fired him but something is weird about that whole situation. Why isn't bannon going on every mainstream outlet and bashing President Trump?? Why isn't he writing negative books about President Trump? Why does Bannon care about Trump supporters?? This is not the actions of a man who was fired to me. More like the actions of two men who wanted the public to believe one thing happen when something completely different is happening. Bannon is far more useful to President Trump out here with us than he is in the White house. Just my opinion.
Who says she is on her own?? Trumps legal team are still working with her but she is not part of the team representing President Trump in the current cases. That's Rudy's position.
She has attorney client privilege with Mike Flynn, who knows where ALL the bodies are buried. He likely knows how to keep his family and her safe as well.
Watch. You have no idea what's going on behind the scenes. People flay back and forth from moment to moment, clutching their Pearl's, or ball sacks dependant on small losses that destroy their emotions. I can guarantee, the media, normies, randos on the net are not privy to one one hundredth of what's really going on behind the scenes. There has been military involvement and intelligence put into place before this election. Just because you dont see it, or know about it, doesnt make one difference. I'm not sure how anyone that hasn't been in the military does not.know ..the government is slow, and they dont tell you what's going on.
Well, inner commie is not too wrong. 5 years ago, I was left-leaning, and I was not too opposed to the extremes of authoritarianism. I was able to harness and understand the idea of Communism in the big picture and make sense of it.
Today, before anything else, I am anti-Communist. I want every little aspect of Socialism REMOVED. I want Marxism to be ERASED and put on the trash bin where slavery once was as well.
I have my inner demons. Some say: "Burn it all down. Let them suffer. They deserve what they brought upon themselves." Others say: "Join them. Maybe people need to be controlled. Maybe having a kind of aristocracy is inevitable. Maybe that's how the game is played."
My most prevalent inner demon however wants to slaughter Communists with my own blades. And I have the plan and the means to do it. It yearns for violence, blood, excitement and justice.
Anyway, identifying my inner demons is a significant step in reining them in. But they are there, and they can be unleashed.
I, for one, welcome honesty. I never had any inner commie at all, but also harbor the inner voice that basically says the only good commie is a dead commie. Applied properly, Big Tech, MSM, Clowns, GS, Pantifa, BLM issues all solved.
That's not the correct response - not yet, anyway.
I guess my only point is that people can be steered away from the ideas of Socialism and Marxism if exposed to relevant information. It's mostly ignorance and misinformation that drives people towards the left, which is one reason why especially young people lean left.
All of this is a war between propaganda and brainwashing vs reality and truth.
If I weren't so contrarian personality-wise, I might be a staunch leftist moron today. There's a terrifying thought, at least for me...
ItsRubio so fcukin' true. I hate that we cant have legit valid concern without being labeled a 5D soros commie.
I would rather have a rational white pill discussion on this site rather than shitty stickied sunday gunday larping , Nakasaki/Hiroshima nuclear bombing celebrations or what one of the mods had for breakfast, wtf does that have to do with promoting the GEOTUS message?
Biggest problem with this site is how schizophrenic the threads are, some are red pilled highly informative rallying threads then there's the shit tier boomer level “soylent reeeee ” spam...
Cheerleading TOO MUCH is just as bad as concern trolling or being a paid left wing doomer because the average pede gets disenfranchised navigating the millionth copypasta REEEEEEEEEEEEE posts with no meaningful content, this is what the 2016 reddit thedonald got right. Focus on GEOTUS message and not blind cheerleading
Honestly for me its the Media and Silicon Valley....it blows my mind how these people can have so much power, constantly lie, hide vital information about their candidate, and essentially brain wash 30-40% of the country thats too fucking stupid to do their own fact checking. When are we going to see something actually happen to these people? They’ve become so confident that they don’t even attempt to hide their blatant corruption. Jack Dorsey gets fucking high before appearing before congress because he knows those cucks won’t ever attempt to arrest him. The system is majorly stacked in one direction and its only going to get worse if something isn’t done.
Also, get outside and off the internet. Go for a hike. Spend time with your family. Teach your children to whittle or hunt. Build something. Read a book. Then come back and check in.
There's too many people desperately F5ing just hoping that all the court cases are gonna skip ahead several weeks. Source: Have been refreshing a lot recently.
Echo chambers exist on both the left and the right. Rational, dispassioned discussion is impossible on either. This uncompromising partisanship by radicals on both sides hurts the majority of people who don't let politics take over their lives. I am now censored here as I was on reddit. So I just stop participating.
So purge doubters and moderates and then wonder why so many allies desert you. I cannot villainize all those who disagree with me. Now I am left with disgust at both sides.
Signal and Noise. Propaganda and Discussion. Purges and Disillusionment.
I hate that we've been forced into an echo chamber, but I don't see any way around it. If we don't maintain echo-chamberness paid and unpaid shills will flood TD and turn it into yet another leftist echo chamber. I feel like they are trying to polarize everyone to the two extremes. Social media was a mistake.
Your reply eases my heart a lot, just by receiving it. I commented in a separate post where I argued against the universal sentiment in the comments supporting a military coup and armed insurrection. That comment appears in my history, but not in the comment threads of the actual post. Maybe it is just a system glitch. Heh.
I don't want to abandon this site, because it has great information, like this post:
I read the whole affidavit. It is a smoking gun. It is a potential game changer.
I think we might have legitimately lost this election because we got less actual votes by actual people in the separate states in question. That Big Media and Big Tech brainwashed these people is not cause to override the current results of the election.
I think we might have had this election stolen through ballot stuffing with mail-in ballots and manipulation of electronic tabulation. We are proceeding with remedy through the courts of law. Sadly, the law is an ass.
In the back of mind I also know that this is still a deeply divided country where plenty of good and decent people support Biden and dislike Trump. I have been to one of the BLM occupations. It was not constituted with these good and decent people.
Online isn't real. Sadly, every time I hear about an event near me from our side that I would want to attend, it is in news reports after the fact.
Anytime. Feel free to DM if you ever need to get something off your chest too.
I'm of the same mind. There's a lot of news and analysis that is only reported here, which makes this site a valuable, almost essential resource. But we also lose the viewpoint of the average american. Personally, I'm not opposed to Trump dumping real evidence and calling a militia to DC - but I recognize how extreme and unlikely that is. We constantly risk getting caught up in our own fantasies and confirmation biases on this site.
I believe the election was stolen, but I also believe it may be impossible to find proof, or that the courts may not want to hear it. The courts definitely don't want to make waves and overturn results at this point, so they will require excessive amounts of evidence. All told, there's a decent chance Biden (and then Harris) will be president.
Most my friends and half my family are low-information Biden voters. I even have a friend in the BLM movement, who protests police brutality with their church. Great guy with respectable goals and ideals, despite the overall movement. Trying to remain independent and cross the aisle feels like being the child in a divorce. Even if I want to go live with Trump, that doesn't mean I believe the other side of my family is actively evil (excluding the politicians) or want to cut them out of my life.
And I know part of that is the media trying every day to manufacture consensus and offer the poppy fields of believing their lies where people live in comparative peace.
The pandemic is making it all so much worse. I don't know if that's intentional, or if media/politicians just saw the opportunity and took it.
Don't let the general immaturity and borderline fanaticism by some of those here in T_D get you down... there are plenty of good people here too. Maybe even a majority. It's just that - as usual - the loudest voices are the most radical.
The OP is a prime example of everything wrong with T_D. Mindless cheerleading, purity tests and gatekeeping have no place in rational discussion.
Cheerleading has its place. Polemic has real value. If that's all we have, though, it is crap.
I just got off the phone with my father-in-law from Ohio, who bears an uncanny resemblance to Joe Biden, even down to the crankiness of declining mental acuity. He can't stand Donald Trump on a visceral level. He can barely stand me, but I am family and his daughter loves me and our kids (his grandkids) are fruit that prove the adequacy of me as an obnoxious New York tree.
America has been creeping towards socialism since the Great Depression. My daughter and her friends love the Soviet National Anthem. When I try to be hip and joke about it, she gives me a dirty look and explains to me that actual communism killed millions of people.
The frantic cries that this election is liberty's last stand are spoken by those ignorant of history.
<Deep Breath>
But T_D has also been a real solace and education and forum for me. Something stinks in the handling of mail-in ballots and voter registration in big cities. The electronic vote tabulating process, especially in this election, is unconscionably flawed.
I have no problem with cheerleading, just not of the mindless variety. I can only take so many posts claiming, “it’s over”, “Trump has this in the bag” and “it’s all part of the plan”, which do nothing but spread lies and misinformation and are at best counter-productive.
Gore conceded after the election was flipped. So excited for Biden to concede. He'll probably fucking die right after from old age and demon possession.
This is such low energy and has been done 5 million times. It’s fucking annoying at this point. Just makes us another Reddit where we ban people who are just genuinely nervous or concerned. But hey, let’s make 500 posts like this a day because that makes this site a better site for information. This is a waste of space, useless post and the fact that it got stickied means we’re going to see a thousand more a day. Helluva job.
Edit: I mean, yay, free helicopter rides for all commies and nervous Trump supporters fuck you all!
For real, if we aren't concerned about Trump endorsing the beginning of transition procedures, what in the world should be be concerned about?
Someone determined to never lose would not allow people to start drafting the terms of surrender. This is a very very bad sign and should be treated as such.
We should not "trust the plan" if he outright tells us that part of the plan is legitimizing a transition. Trump has ears on this forum. The message must be that there can be absolutely no legitimization of Biden.
Trump has also previously tweeted he would never quit. We know this. As such I would argue that Trump is simply letting the left have this contrived and irrelevant victory as it serves to take some heat off Emily and his people before the battle actually begins. Let them have their fake offices, proclamations and capitulations- ultimately this will be decided by evidence and scotus.
There is overwhelming evidence of fraud and any fair judicial system would grant Trump victory. This will ultimately be decided by scotus but there is legitimate concern whether they will adjudicate fairly. Even if some judges are not intending on doing so, I happen to believe when the evidence emerges in the coming weeks it will be so explosive the public will be fucking outraged, and any corrupt Scotus judge will be forced to judge correctly. As such I give Trump about a 85% chance of winning. Thats my honest, impartial assessment. Am I wrong and why? Also, I dont know the actual timeline of dates so perhaps someone can tell me?
First, I still don't think this is over. I think there are still card to play and I believe Trump will do everything he can in that regard.
That said, I'll say what nobody else wants to say... Trump would be beyond stupid to take extra-legal means to stay in office. If it comes down to it, Trump will need to at least concede from a legal perspective while refusing the acknowledge the legitimacy of the election. Breaking the law is exactly what the Left wants him to do and would only be giving them a victory as well as throwing this country into further turmoil.
Stand the fuck up, give yer nuts a tug, and kill a few commies.
You clearly don’t believe a wit of what you’re saying, and thank goodness because, if you did, you’d be nothing more that a blurb on the nightly news about the latest lunatic to be shot down by police while attempting a mass shooting.
THIS. And if you have a problem, fight me you after you're done circle jerking to tick tock hope porn!!
We're shutting down a lot of important conservations and creating another echo chamber en lieu of h0lD tHe L1nE d0omEr fAgs! I've noticed that there are a lot of new accounts spouting the doomer memes and divisive content, which means it's been recognized by the shill campaigns and groups like Media Matters and ShariaBlue as effective. But, it's being parroted genuine Pedes here, which is so sad. It's so the decay of any critical thought and the replacement with our version of NPC-like mentality.
I swear to God, every time I read "Hold the Line" I think back to the "Here's how Bernie can still win" posts. It's really a shame - especially that this was sticked. Mod fail.
We will soon have no home. This place is going to become an echo chamber just like Reddit. I’ve pretty much started removing politics from life at this point.
Things will go back to the same old slow decay we witnessed for the last few decades. It’s just amazing so many people can’t see what’s happening.
I mean, it happens. It's the cycle of a trend. Something (TD) gets cool, normies invade, they ruin it (d0omEr this, d0omEr that, shit boomer FB memes, FOX news deepthroating), we move on to something else. Cycle repeats.
who said we're sitting back? have you seen the crowdsourced info people have been putting together on this site, the organization of rallies? Why the fuck did you even vote for Trump? have you even been paying attention the last 4 years? Let's be clear, we still have our man and a few other good people in our systems of government, we have not lost anything yet, we are still on option A which is letting the people we elected and our systems of government play out and do their thing. People are fighting like hell to make this option happen, but also waiting and preparing for the case that it doesn't and the option B, i.e. the tree of liberty needs watering
Extremely well stated. Everybody better hope for our current way of life that Option A works out and it's not weakness to give Option A every possible chance. Everyone that truly loves this Republic knows Option B is sitting there.
I wonder what, besides posting self congratulatory garbage and memes, the people who call "doomers" names on this website are actually doing to stop the steal. You know what is more devastating than Trump having the election stolen from him? The fact that I know when it happens, the same idiots who are posting "high energy" crap on here will do absolutely nothing. Well fed people do not start revolutions.
Exactly. I've been a doomer in the last couple of days but my intention is not to sabotage MAGA. My intention is to tell people that we must be prepared that things are not going to go our way.
In that case people will either use the second amendment and start fighting back, or we'll just accept that America will become a communist shithole where white people are going to be persecuted.
If people decide to use the second amendment, it's better if Trump is still in the White House. You cannot wait until Biden takes over the military
They won’t do shit. They’re lazy and honestly concerned and worried themselves. They know they are. All of this (including OP and his trash meme) is projection. Projecting their own concerns and worry onto others.
Most are at least a bit concerned and it’s not because of iNNeR cOmMiE. It’s due to recent developments and recognizing what’s happened the last week or so.
Again, the same ones calling everyone “MUH dOoMeR” and “MuH 1776” wont do shit and haven’t really done shit to warrant judging someone else’s patriotism.
After this election, the mainstream media needs to be shut down. The blatant LIES they keep spewing is insane. There is absolutely ZERO objectionism in anything they put out. It's absolutely hypnotic to a point and I feel really bad for even intelligent people who have come to rely on mainstream news for their source of information outside of their bubble. It's honestly very hard to hear and we can't trust ANYTHING they say at this point.
The biggest one was the GSA letter sent to Biden, if you took 10 seconds to read the first paragraph, it clearly states Biden isn't president or even president-elect, but EVERY headline says that letter admits Trump conceded. What a damn joke! At the very minimum, these news agencies need to lose their FCC licenses, they have no right to air their propaganda on the radio or TV. They can post youtube videos, that's fine, I don't believe they should be completely silenced. But the radio and TV are controlled by the government and we have a right to cancel their license at any time and remove them from the air ways for good.
Don't people realize by now that Pres Trump would never come this far thru all their commie bs just to give it all back to them after they BLATANTLY defrauded We The People of our vote...FOR DECADES?
Trump has KNOWN and has PREPARED for all scenerios!
I've been waiting since mid 80s for their corrupt system to be blown to smithereens!
Trump needed the "shoplifters" to "leave the store" and then let them think they got away w it before he walks up behind them n hits them w the hammer!
I know there are people who are Patriots that are concerned. We will let you know when it is time to be concerned. All other Doomers Glowies Shills. ect ect Shut the fuck up. We are winning. And Trump will be President For The next 30 years.
Yeah, god forbid someone think for themselves. Doesn't seem very logical to attempt to alienate people who don't subscribe to group think. You can have complete faith in the President and still be able to see what happens if things don't turn out the way you want. Both can take place at the same time.
I don't care who you are or what type of support and faith you have in the president. At some point we all have been pissed about the situation at hand. Use that anger to fight back against the left. Don't use that anger to attack the very people fighting along side you.
I myself will never subscribe to an echo chamber. I can see the forest for the trees. I look at the entire situation, not just what I want to see. Let's continue to fight hard for the president, but we also need to be making a plan because like it or not, you know and I know the swamp is deep and the founders warned us what would happen if the government got to large and stopped fearing the people.
We are witnessing it this very moment. The doj, fbi and other agencies are absent. The durham investigation where people kept saying "bruh, this shit takes time, just wait" and now that fucker quit because of fear of the deepstate. We all voted, or at least I believe we voted for the president first, and the rest of the GOPe down ticket and where are those fuckers we voted for in all this?
I'll tell you where they are. They are bending over and spreading them cheeks wide telling the president to concede. So, with all that being said, don't attack fellow soldier pedes, the shills are obvious, people who have been here supporting the president aren't your enemy because they ask questions or are worried that the left may get away with this shit. People have every right to be worried because if this shit is allowed to stand, the next step is bend over and take it or war.
Use that anger and frustration that you aim at some on this site, and direct it to the GOPe hanging us out to dry. Call, write go to their office in person and make them asshats come out and support of the president because without him, they wouldn't have been (re)elected.
Thanks, I'm right there with you. I'm locked and loaded for the worst case scenario, but I'd much rather we give Trump another 4 years to finish what he started.
I honestly feel that if we can get passed this fraud that Trump will once and for all end the swamp and return this nation to it's glory, but we need everyone to do it and can't afford to alienate anyone on our side whether they were with us from the escalator, or came to their senses later.
Dude stop behaving like a cult its no better then the left. Being realistic of what's happening is our main difference between them and us. I still think there is a small chance DT can win the election but not 100%. We need to get organized, start more grass root movements and take back out country/departments from the swamp.
This is Milton Friedman - he was an Anti-Populist and did not understand some of the implications on US workers of the economic system he was promoting. He advocated against Tariffs, even counter-Tariffs, against the policies Trump is doing as part of his war on China.
We should be careful when quoting Milton Friedman, as he was a human and he erred, and those errors have to be noted.
I love the guy when he argues against commies, but keep the above in mind.
Losing is not an option, if we lose now it's fucking over. If they manage to cheat this blatantly and get away with it, there will never be another populist like Trump. Maybe a controlled shithead republican like Mitt Romney.
Call me a doomer but I don't think we can win this in court, I think Trump must literally cross the Rubicon. I decided that I will personally travel to US if that happens. I hope it don't come to that. But my biggest fear is that he concedes and nothing happens we just end up continuing on our slow death towards socialism. This is the hill to die on, they are literally coming to your house to stop you celebrating Christmas. If they can talk away our most sacred religious holiday there is NOTHING they will stop at. All communists regime ban Christianity, they are coming for Christmas that is not a conspiracy.
I fucking have libtard relatives staying at MY house right now and they feel entitled to bash Pres Trump even though they know I support him fully.
What happened to people? You go and stay as a guest in someone’s house and they shit all over the host? What the actual FUCK?
That’s sort of how I see this place. Thedonald.win is our house. Get the fuck out if you can’t handle the truth and the love for the best president in history. He WILL be re-elected. I’m here off and on all day for strength, even though I haven't posted as much. I appreciate more than anything the brilliant minds on here.
Commies, shills and the like can go fuck themselves. I’ve got combat experience and more fucking ammo than is necessary. Over my dead body Biden will steal the election.
If you think the doomers are bad around here, try going on some of the larger gun boards. Most of them get 100% of their "information" from the TeeVee, and they're convinced that joe bidet is already president, ammo prices are going up 500%, you need a background check to buy primers and the penalty for non-registration of anything that goes "boom" is slow death. Few of them are even aware that the election isn't over yet.
One has to kill the inner commie before one can slay the outer commies...
WRITE THAT DOWN! WRITE THAT DOWN!
GOP leaders and DOJ FBI etc totally MIA, can we actually do something to pressure them?
How about gut or disband FBI? Identify loyal ppl and start over.
I heard a rumour that is exactly what is happening behind the scenes.
How about we just disband the FBI and stop there?
What if you grew up in the Cold War, and there is no inner commie? Just an inner John J...
Milton Friedman is a god!!!
so is thomas sowell. what a pede
We have the best intellects, don't we folks?
Really we have the ONLY intellects, it's not possible for the left!
Kek. True, true!!
Oh, remind me of what Friedman thought of immigration and tariffs?
The Austrian and Chicago school of economics are globalists.
Conservatives, just like the true commies, have been duped into supporting big corporations.
You can take nuggets from people like Friedman & others, while not completely supporting the rest of their ideas / ideology.
Agree. Because we're all individuals with our own brains and discernment. So annoying when people paint with a broad brush, like Italians Invented 2A. To me, anyway, people like him are immediately suspect.
Bingo.
You have been an entertaining contrarian but you constantly frame things out of context.
Certain traits of the globalist agenda are inevitable and the only way to preserve our culture is to create that strong conservative identity to face such challenges.
The problem isn’t that we don’t stand for free trade. We do. As long as it’s ACTUALLY FREE. In that way we stand for fair trade. The problem is our trade often is not free with them dumping and using non tariff trade barriers to make it more difficult for Americans.
You're an elitist with no true understanding of what it means to be a conservative. Are you even American, in the full sense?
You're an elitist devoid of true conservative experience. Are you even American, in the full sense of the word? Perhaps you should check yourself, pally.
Wait until you see Sidney outplay everyone . Then you will all say how great she is..lol. flip like a sheet in the wind.
And Bannon is back helping the movement. Trying to keep peope on this site from acting like bunch of whiney school girls. Which is Bannon's own words not mines. haha
he fired him but something is weird about that whole situation. Why isn't bannon going on every mainstream outlet and bashing President Trump?? Why isn't he writing negative books about President Trump? Why does Bannon care about Trump supporters?? This is not the actions of a man who was fired to me. More like the actions of two men who wanted the public to believe one thing happen when something completely different is happening. Bannon is far more useful to President Trump out here with us than he is in the White house. Just my opinion.
Because a woman, on her own, is going to take down the whole deep state.
Were you born yesterday?
If Sidney was a threat she would be suicided instantly
Who says she is on her own?? Trumps legal team are still working with her but she is not part of the team representing President Trump in the current cases. That's Rudy's position.
But she's not with the military or NSA, which would be necessary to prove what she's saying
She has attorney client privilege with Mike Flynn, who knows where ALL the bodies are buried. He likely knows how to keep his family and her safe as well.
Thanks this post gives me a glimmer of hope
Watch. You have no idea what's going on behind the scenes. People flay back and forth from moment to moment, clutching their Pearl's, or ball sacks dependant on small losses that destroy their emotions. I can guarantee, the media, normies, randos on the net are not privy to one one hundredth of what's really going on behind the scenes. There has been military involvement and intelligence put into place before this election. Just because you dont see it, or know about it, doesnt make one difference. I'm not sure how anyone that hasn't been in the military does not.know ..the government is slow, and they dont tell you what's going on.
👍watch Thomas Wictor on YouTube
The Mind War is in overdrive right now. Praying that takedown is imminent.
Shut the fuck up communist
My moral isn't low at all. Speak for yourself. haha
Well, inner commie is not too wrong. 5 years ago, I was left-leaning, and I was not too opposed to the extremes of authoritarianism. I was able to harness and understand the idea of Communism in the big picture and make sense of it.
Today, before anything else, I am anti-Communist. I want every little aspect of Socialism REMOVED. I want Marxism to be ERASED and put on the trash bin where slavery once was as well.
I have my inner demons. Some say: "Burn it all down. Let them suffer. They deserve what they brought upon themselves." Others say: "Join them. Maybe people need to be controlled. Maybe having a kind of aristocracy is inevitable. Maybe that's how the game is played."
My most prevalent inner demon however wants to slaughter Communists with my own blades. And I have the plan and the means to do it. It yearns for violence, blood, excitement and justice.
Anyway, identifying my inner demons is a significant step in reining them in. But they are there, and they can be unleashed.
I, for one, welcome honesty. I never had any inner commie at all, but also harbor the inner voice that basically says the only good commie is a dead commie. Applied properly, Big Tech, MSM, Clowns, GS, Pantifa, BLM issues all solved.
That's not the correct response - not yet, anyway.
I guess my only point is that people can be steered away from the ideas of Socialism and Marxism if exposed to relevant information. It's mostly ignorance and misinformation that drives people towards the left, which is one reason why especially young people lean left.
All of this is a war between propaganda and brainwashing vs reality and truth.
If I weren't so contrarian personality-wise, I might be a staunch leftist moron today. There's a terrifying thought, at least for me...
ItsRubio so fcukin' true. I hate that we cant have legit valid concern without being labeled a 5D soros commie. I would rather have a rational white pill discussion on this site rather than shitty stickied sunday gunday larping , Nakasaki/Hiroshima nuclear bombing celebrations or what one of the mods had for breakfast, wtf does that have to do with promoting the GEOTUS message? Biggest problem with this site is how schizophrenic the threads are, some are red pilled highly informative rallying threads then there's the shit tier boomer level “soylent reeeee ” spam...
Cheerleading TOO MUCH is just as bad as concern trolling or being a paid left wing doomer because the average pede gets disenfranchised navigating the millionth copypasta REEEEEEEEEEEEE posts with no meaningful content, this is what the 2016 reddit thedonald got right. Focus on GEOTUS message and not blind cheerleading
Do not agree. Sword she is wielding will cut into both pol parties. Needs to be independent. It isn't hard to figure this shit out.
Careful there, talk like that will get you
banneddeported for being anazicommie.Honestly for me its the Media and Silicon Valley....it blows my mind how these people can have so much power, constantly lie, hide vital information about their candidate, and essentially brain wash 30-40% of the country thats too fucking stupid to do their own fact checking. When are we going to see something actually happen to these people? They’ve become so confident that they don’t even attempt to hide their blatant corruption. Jack Dorsey gets fucking high before appearing before congress because he knows those cucks won’t ever attempt to arrest him. The system is majorly stacked in one direction and its only going to get worse if something isn’t done.
This is it. I don't doubt our friends, I doubt the deep state and judges. That doesn't mean we don't try our hardest.
But we shouldn't be pie in the sky nor have our heads in the sand. That's how liberals act.
We need to fight for what's right, but keep our healthy skepticism of the government and media.
For every second spent fearing, you might as well have already lost.
HOLD THE LINE!!
I will fight even when i am certain i have already lost. After all, i have been known to be wrong.
Communism is the mind killer.
Communism is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
Also, get outside and off the internet. Go for a hike. Spend time with your family. Teach your children to whittle or hunt. Build something. Read a book. Then come back and check in.
There's too many people desperately F5ing just hoping that all the court cases are gonna skip ahead several weeks. Source: Have been refreshing a lot recently.
Echo chambers exist on both the left and the right. Rational, dispassioned discussion is impossible on either. This uncompromising partisanship by radicals on both sides hurts the majority of people who don't let politics take over their lives. I am now censored here as I was on reddit. So I just stop participating.
So purge doubters and moderates and then wonder why so many allies desert you. I cannot villainize all those who disagree with me. Now I am left with disgust at both sides.
Signal and Noise. Propaganda and Discussion. Purges and Disillusionment.
I hate that we've been forced into an echo chamber, but I don't see any way around it. If we don't maintain echo-chamberness paid and unpaid shills will flood TD and turn it into yet another leftist echo chamber. I feel like they are trying to polarize everyone to the two extremes. Social media was a mistake.
Your reply eases my heart a lot, just by receiving it. I commented in a separate post where I argued against the universal sentiment in the comments supporting a military coup and armed insurrection. That comment appears in my history, but not in the comment threads of the actual post. Maybe it is just a system glitch. Heh.
I don't want to abandon this site, because it has great information, like this post:
https://thedonald.win/p/11QRyLnGSW/trump-rt-ramsland-affidavit--dom/c/
I read the whole affidavit. It is a smoking gun. It is a potential game changer.
I think we might have legitimately lost this election because we got less actual votes by actual people in the separate states in question. That Big Media and Big Tech brainwashed these people is not cause to override the current results of the election.
I think we might have had this election stolen through ballot stuffing with mail-in ballots and manipulation of electronic tabulation. We are proceeding with remedy through the courts of law. Sadly, the law is an ass.
In the back of mind I also know that this is still a deeply divided country where plenty of good and decent people support Biden and dislike Trump. I have been to one of the BLM occupations. It was not constituted with these good and decent people.
Online isn't real. Sadly, every time I hear about an event near me from our side that I would want to attend, it is in news reports after the fact.
Thanks for giving me a chance to vent.
Anytime. Feel free to DM if you ever need to get something off your chest too.
I'm of the same mind. There's a lot of news and analysis that is only reported here, which makes this site a valuable, almost essential resource. But we also lose the viewpoint of the average american. Personally, I'm not opposed to Trump dumping real evidence and calling a militia to DC - but I recognize how extreme and unlikely that is. We constantly risk getting caught up in our own fantasies and confirmation biases on this site.
I believe the election was stolen, but I also believe it may be impossible to find proof, or that the courts may not want to hear it. The courts definitely don't want to make waves and overturn results at this point, so they will require excessive amounts of evidence. All told, there's a decent chance Biden (and then Harris) will be president.
Most my friends and half my family are low-information Biden voters. I even have a friend in the BLM movement, who protests police brutality with their church. Great guy with respectable goals and ideals, despite the overall movement. Trying to remain independent and cross the aisle feels like being the child in a divorce. Even if I want to go live with Trump, that doesn't mean I believe the other side of my family is actively evil (excluding the politicians) or want to cut them out of my life.
And I know part of that is the media trying every day to manufacture consensus and offer the poppy fields of believing their lies where people live in comparative peace.
The pandemic is making it all so much worse. I don't know if that's intentional, or if media/politicians just saw the opportunity and took it.
It's rough.
Don't let the general immaturity and borderline fanaticism by some of those here in T_D get you down... there are plenty of good people here too. Maybe even a majority. It's just that - as usual - the loudest voices are the most radical.
The OP is a prime example of everything wrong with T_D. Mindless cheerleading, purity tests and gatekeeping have no place in rational discussion.
Cheerleading has its place. Polemic has real value. If that's all we have, though, it is crap.
I just got off the phone with my father-in-law from Ohio, who bears an uncanny resemblance to Joe Biden, even down to the crankiness of declining mental acuity. He can't stand Donald Trump on a visceral level. He can barely stand me, but I am family and his daughter loves me and our kids (his grandkids) are fruit that prove the adequacy of me as an obnoxious New York tree.
America has been creeping towards socialism since the Great Depression. My daughter and her friends love the Soviet National Anthem. When I try to be hip and joke about it, she gives me a dirty look and explains to me that actual communism killed millions of people.
The frantic cries that this election is liberty's last stand are spoken by those ignorant of history.
<Deep Breath>
But T_D has also been a real solace and education and forum for me. Something stinks in the handling of mail-in ballots and voter registration in big cities. The electronic vote tabulating process, especially in this election, is unconscionably flawed.
<Another Deep Breath>
I have no problem with cheerleading, just not of the mindless variety. I can only take so many posts claiming, “it’s over”, “Trump has this in the bag” and “it’s all part of the plan”, which do nothing but spread lies and misinformation and are at best counter-productive.
Gore conceded after the election was flipped. So excited for Biden to concede. He'll probably fucking die right after from old age and demon possession.
Gore never won a single recount, so nothing was ever "flipped."
Flipped on the media's eyes because they had crowned him the winner.
Yup, those early calls for Gore in Florida were disheartening. They pulled back pretty quickly though.
Excellent analogy
Rule #1 "This is The Donald. Our community is a high-energy Trump rally. There are no exceptions."
MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE!
“Who made who?”
This is such low energy and has been done 5 million times. It’s fucking annoying at this point. Just makes us another Reddit where we ban people who are just genuinely nervous or concerned. But hey, let’s make 500 posts like this a day because that makes this site a better site for information. This is a waste of space, useless post and the fact that it got stickied means we’re going to see a thousand more a day. Helluva job.
Edit: I mean, yay, free helicopter rides for all commies and nervous Trump supporters fuck you all!
For real, if we aren't concerned about Trump endorsing the beginning of transition procedures, what in the world should be be concerned about?
Someone determined to never lose would not allow people to start drafting the terms of surrender. This is a very very bad sign and should be treated as such.
We should not "trust the plan" if he outright tells us that part of the plan is legitimizing a transition. Trump has ears on this forum. The message must be that there can be absolutely no legitimization of Biden.
When did Trump endorse the beginning of transition procedures? Source?
The tweet that everyone is finding disconcerting is at https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1331013908971261953
Trump has also previously tweeted he would never quit. We know this. As such I would argue that Trump is simply letting the left have this contrived and irrelevant victory as it serves to take some heat off Emily and his people before the battle actually begins. Let them have their fake offices, proclamations and capitulations- ultimately this will be decided by evidence and scotus.
The people complaining are quite annoying. It seems like certain people here and other places are allergic to research.
Agreed. So my analysis is this:
There is overwhelming evidence of fraud and any fair judicial system would grant Trump victory. This will ultimately be decided by scotus but there is legitimate concern whether they will adjudicate fairly. Even if some judges are not intending on doing so, I happen to believe when the evidence emerges in the coming weeks it will be so explosive the public will be fucking outraged, and any corrupt Scotus judge will be forced to judge correctly. As such I give Trump about a 85% chance of winning. Thats my honest, impartial assessment. Am I wrong and why? Also, I dont know the actual timeline of dates so perhaps someone can tell me?
First, I still don't think this is over. I think there are still card to play and I believe Trump will do everything he can in that regard.
That said, I'll say what nobody else wants to say... Trump would be beyond stupid to take extra-legal means to stay in office. If it comes down to it, Trump will need to at least concede from a legal perspective while refusing the acknowledge the legitimacy of the election. Breaking the law is exactly what the Left wants him to do and would only be giving them a victory as well as throwing this country into further turmoil.
What are you talking about.
This is a fucking COMMUNIST COUP and you are talking about "following the rules" and "obeying the law" and shit? Fucking LOLLLLLLLL
Shit like this is what got us to where we are.
Stand the fuck up, give yer nuts a tug, and kill a few commies.
They're stealing our fucking right to vote.
What the fuck do you think is going to be next?
Lead the way tough guy
You clearly don’t believe a wit of what you’re saying, and thank goodness because, if you did, you’d be nothing more that a blurb on the nightly news about the latest lunatic to be shot down by police while attempting a mass shooting.
I hope so
THIS. And if you have a problem, fight me you after you're done circle jerking to tick tock hope porn!!
We're shutting down a lot of important conservations and creating another echo chamber en lieu of h0lD tHe L1nE d0omEr fAgs! I've noticed that there are a lot of new accounts spouting the doomer memes and divisive content, which means it's been recognized by the shill campaigns and groups like Media Matters and ShariaBlue as effective. But, it's being parroted genuine Pedes here, which is so sad. It's so the decay of any critical thought and the replacement with our version of NPC-like mentality.
I swear to God, every time I read "Hold the Line" I think back to the "Here's how Bernie can still win" posts. It's really a shame - especially that this was sticked. Mod fail.
I'm on here daily, and have been since the beginning.
I have literally never seen someone crying about what's on CNN here. FAKE NEWS, you faggot.
Ok Doomer
Care to refute any of his points?
You can’t, can you?
So sick of this fucking response to legitimate concerns around here.
Sure, nothing to be concerned about right now, carry on.
Again, show me one quote where someone is concerned about something on CNN. You're a fucking faggot.
We will soon have no home. This place is going to become an echo chamber just like Reddit. I’ve pretty much started removing politics from life at this point.
Things will go back to the same old slow decay we witnessed for the last few decades. It’s just amazing so many people can’t see what’s happening.
I’m pretty much at the point of considering minimizing my exposure to it as well.
I mean, it happens. It's the cycle of a trend. Something (TD) gets cool, normies invade, they ruin it (d0omEr this, d0omEr that, shit boomer FB memes, FOX news deepthroating), we move on to something else. Cycle repeats.
Couldn't have said it better.
Sitting back and crossing your fingers Trump has it all covered is going to lose us this entire country.
The tree of liberty MUST be refreshed with the blood of tyrants and patriots alike
who said we're sitting back? have you seen the crowdsourced info people have been putting together on this site, the organization of rallies? Why the fuck did you even vote for Trump? have you even been paying attention the last 4 years? Let's be clear, we still have our man and a few other good people in our systems of government, we have not lost anything yet, we are still on option A which is letting the people we elected and our systems of government play out and do their thing. People are fighting like hell to make this option happen, but also waiting and preparing for the case that it doesn't and the option B, i.e. the tree of liberty needs watering
Extremely well stated. Everybody better hope for our current way of life that Option A works out and it's not weakness to give Option A every possible chance. Everyone that truly loves this Republic knows Option B is sitting there.
User name checks out! Source: I'm a friend of the Culpers as well. ;-)
😎
OK, so what are you personally doing besides posting?
I did the breakfast :( now im sad
So basically nothing
He's busy burying the bodies.
Trying to build a consensus before the action.
You can refresh it with yours if that's what you prefer...I think the tree prefers Commie blood though😉
Deport the quitters and the cowards!
I wonder what, besides posting self congratulatory garbage and memes, the people who call "doomers" names on this website are actually doing to stop the steal. You know what is more devastating than Trump having the election stolen from him? The fact that I know when it happens, the same idiots who are posting "high energy" crap on here will do absolutely nothing. Well fed people do not start revolutions.
then start forming militia's good sir we will follow in lockstep or get off your soapbox
Everyone here should apply at https://www.apiii.net
Exactly. I've been a doomer in the last couple of days but my intention is not to sabotage MAGA. My intention is to tell people that we must be prepared that things are not going to go our way.
In that case people will either use the second amendment and start fighting back, or we'll just accept that America will become a communist shithole where white people are going to be persecuted.
If people decide to use the second amendment, it's better if Trump is still in the White House. You cannot wait until Biden takes over the military
They won’t do shit. They’re lazy and honestly concerned and worried themselves. They know they are. All of this (including OP and his trash meme) is projection. Projecting their own concerns and worry onto others.
Most are at least a bit concerned and it’s not because of iNNeR cOmMiE. It’s due to recent developments and recognizing what’s happened the last week or so.
Again, the same ones calling everyone “MUH dOoMeR” and “MuH 1776” wont do shit and haven’t really done shit to warrant judging someone else’s patriotism.
Always something like a 14 day old account saying everyone else is "not going to do anything". You are the shills we are talking about.
Yeah, it doesn't help.
BANNON'S WAR ROOM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2jn--4xFDo
After this election, the mainstream media needs to be shut down. The blatant LIES they keep spewing is insane. There is absolutely ZERO objectionism in anything they put out. It's absolutely hypnotic to a point and I feel really bad for even intelligent people who have come to rely on mainstream news for their source of information outside of their bubble. It's honestly very hard to hear and we can't trust ANYTHING they say at this point.
The biggest one was the GSA letter sent to Biden, if you took 10 seconds to read the first paragraph, it clearly states Biden isn't president or even president-elect, but EVERY headline says that letter admits Trump conceded. What a damn joke! At the very minimum, these news agencies need to lose their FCC licenses, they have no right to air their propaganda on the radio or TV. They can post youtube videos, that's fine, I don't believe they should be completely silenced. But the radio and TV are controlled by the government and we have a right to cancel their license at any time and remove them from the air ways for good.
Don't people realize by now that Pres Trump would never come this far thru all their commie bs just to give it all back to them after they BLATANTLY defrauded We The People of our vote...FOR DECADES? Trump has KNOWN and has PREPARED for all scenerios! I've been waiting since mid 80s for their corrupt system to be blown to smithereens! Trump needed the "shoplifters" to "leave the store" and then let them think they got away w it before he walks up behind them n hits them w the hammer!
Commies are in full force in this thread and one has downvoted you, I countered the downvote with an uptrump! Stay strong pede
Fuck yes. Don't doubt the Legend.
He has always been too many steps ahead. u think he never saw this coming?
Obviously, he is a time traveller!
He knows things, We assume things
Trump has 100 plans for everything, no doubt, but you CANNOT say having the fraud swamp his landslide victory was “part of the plan.”
They cheated at a monumental level and from all angles, even more than POTUS or any of us had anticipated.
NOBODY here can say they anticipated that the democrats would steal or flip 20 million votes.
To the Choppers!
tell them to go to r/conservative
Give me Liberty or I'll give you dead commies!
I know there are people who are Patriots that are concerned. We will let you know when it is time to be concerned. All other Doomers Glowies Shills. ect ect Shut the fuck up. We are winning. And Trump will be President For The next 30 years.
https://richardsonpost.com/howellwoltz/19022/hey-soros-meet-americas-new-president/
Trained to kill commies in the 80's, wouldn't hesitate to splash one now! Trump 2020! BA
Yeah, god forbid someone think for themselves. Doesn't seem very logical to attempt to alienate people who don't subscribe to group think. You can have complete faith in the President and still be able to see what happens if things don't turn out the way you want. Both can take place at the same time.
I don't care who you are or what type of support and faith you have in the president. At some point we all have been pissed about the situation at hand. Use that anger to fight back against the left. Don't use that anger to attack the very people fighting along side you.
I myself will never subscribe to an echo chamber. I can see the forest for the trees. I look at the entire situation, not just what I want to see. Let's continue to fight hard for the president, but we also need to be making a plan because like it or not, you know and I know the swamp is deep and the founders warned us what would happen if the government got to large and stopped fearing the people.
We are witnessing it this very moment. The doj, fbi and other agencies are absent. The durham investigation where people kept saying "bruh, this shit takes time, just wait" and now that fucker quit because of fear of the deepstate. We all voted, or at least I believe we voted for the president first, and the rest of the GOPe down ticket and where are those fuckers we voted for in all this?
I'll tell you where they are. They are bending over and spreading them cheeks wide telling the president to concede. So, with all that being said, don't attack fellow soldier pedes, the shills are obvious, people who have been here supporting the president aren't your enemy because they ask questions or are worried that the left may get away with this shit. People have every right to be worried because if this shit is allowed to stand, the next step is bend over and take it or war.
Use that anger and frustration that you aim at some on this site, and direct it to the GOPe hanging us out to dry. Call, write go to their office in person and make them asshats come out and support of the president because without him, they wouldn't have been (re)elected.
Fucking nailed it. Put my signature on CW2 draft card.
Thanks, I'm right there with you. I'm locked and loaded for the worst case scenario, but I'd much rather we give Trump another 4 years to finish what he started.
I honestly feel that if we can get passed this fraud that Trump will once and for all end the swamp and return this nation to it's glory, but we need everyone to do it and can't afford to alienate anyone on our side whether they were with us from the escalator, or came to their senses later.
Dude stop behaving like a cult its no better then the left. Being realistic of what's happening is our main difference between them and us. I still think there is a small chance DT can win the election but not 100%. We need to get organized, start more grass root movements and take back out country/departments from the swamp.
This is Milton Friedman - he was an Anti-Populist and did not understand some of the implications on US workers of the economic system he was promoting. He advocated against Tariffs, even counter-Tariffs, against the policies Trump is doing as part of his war on China. We should be careful when quoting Milton Friedman, as he was a human and he erred, and those errors have to be noted.
I love the guy when he argues against commies, but keep the above in mind.
Losing is not an option, if we lose now it's fucking over. If they manage to cheat this blatantly and get away with it, there will never be another populist like Trump. Maybe a controlled shithead republican like Mitt Romney.
Call me a doomer but I don't think we can win this in court, I think Trump must literally cross the Rubicon. I decided that I will personally travel to US if that happens. I hope it don't come to that. But my biggest fear is that he concedes and nothing happens we just end up continuing on our slow death towards socialism. This is the hill to die on, they are literally coming to your house to stop you celebrating Christmas. If they can talk away our most sacred religious holiday there is NOTHING they will stop at. All communists regime ban Christianity, they are coming for Christmas that is not a conspiracy.
Thank you 💕 I needed these words of encouragement this morning.
I don't doubt GEOTUS.
I doubt that SCOTUS has the backbone and fortitude necessary to stand up for the rule of law.
I fucking have libtard relatives staying at MY house right now and they feel entitled to bash Pres Trump even though they know I support him fully.
What happened to people? You go and stay as a guest in someone’s house and they shit all over the host? What the actual FUCK?
That’s sort of how I see this place. Thedonald.win is our house. Get the fuck out if you can’t handle the truth and the love for the best president in history. He WILL be re-elected. I’m here off and on all day for strength, even though I haven't posted as much. I appreciate more than anything the brilliant minds on here.
Commies, shills and the like can go fuck themselves. I’ve got combat experience and more fucking ammo than is necessary. Over my dead body Biden will steal the election.
It’s easy to feel demoralized. But how many times has Trump been proven right. Prep for the worst but don’t give up
I'm annoyed by them. Hardly what I'd call demoralized.
100% AGREE
"thank god i was warned to abandon hope" said nobody ever
If you think the doomers are bad around here, try going on some of the larger gun boards. Most of them get 100% of their "information" from the TeeVee, and they're convinced that joe bidet is already president, ammo prices are going up 500%, you need a background check to buy primers and the penalty for non-registration of anything that goes "boom" is slow death. Few of them are even aware that the election isn't over yet.
Damn, I really really hate commies.
Milton Friedman lol I love it
This is a good time for stoicism. Buckle up.
FAFO
Fuck commie fucks
MAGA
Trump will crush the "50 cent army" ccp shills.
Trust the plan
HTFDDE!!
People who think joe biden won the election aren't really paying attention bro what's going on
Lame meme.
Milton Approved Of This Helicopter...