If you think the doomers are bad around here, try going on some of the larger gun boards. Most of them get 100% of their "information" from the TeeVee, and they're convinced that joe bidet is already president, ammo prices are going up 500%, you need a background check to buy primers and the penalty for non-registration of anything that goes "boom" is slow death. Few of them are even aware that the election isn't over yet.