i mean there's bunch of ppl on twitter just spam commenting on trump saying "FUCK IT YOU LOST", but keep your heads up pedes, we'll fight back at the horrible, fat-ass dems
They used two methods, hacked/manual electronic voting but he was still losing so bad that’s where the late morning fake vote mail in dumps were required
Legislature gets to pick, or their state sends no electors. Jamming the system by invalidating states sending electors is still a win-condition for us.
That’s kind of a bull shit rule if we can prove one side caused the fraud. The other side by default should win flat out. Otherwise if the scale is tipped in the direction of people willing to commit fraud, there would be no reason not to commit fraud.
Yeah, I agree that it's a really unfortunate consequence. But it's baked in there with the hopes that some part of the system would be uncorrupted enough to stop the kind of constitutional crisis that we're finding ourselves in today. This is probably the first time we'll see whether the founders' many emergency systems have failed.
The reason that cheating isn't immediate disqualification (though some states may choose to select their electors with that in mind) is because the other side could just cheat badly on behalf of their opponent, get caught, and then win the election. If we punished getting caught with death, that might be a better option. Unfortunately, we do not.
This is the thing. Punishment for committing election fraud is way too weak. Most of the time the courts don’t even want to tackle it, you have to force them into it.
Also it’s far too easy to set people up to do the actual fraud (lower level employees) then if caught, the people actually behind planning the fraud don’t get punishment at all.
I’m saying if proven, the side that commits the fraud looses. We would have to prove that it wasn’t one side making it look like the other side cheated of course. In this case, the fraud is pretty obvious and it wasn’t the republicans that were keeping the democrats out of the polling stations for instance.
I wonder -- as United States voters could we file a class action suit against these contested states for certifying despite overwhelming evidence of fraud? One would assume (not knowing much about election law) that we (as citizens) have some rights in the matter.
If our choice for president has been negated through fraud -- then "we, the people" could also be considered "an injured party" -- couldn't we?
I imagine if we (collectively) were to donate -- we could retain counsel. Can you picture a "The Donald. Win vs.State" court case? It certainly would not hurt for "we, the people" to come out swinging on President Trump's behalf.
Just a thought -- I am not even sure the mods would be interested in doing this or if it would even be legally possible to act as a formal unit.
However, the Ramsland affidavit appeared to confuse townships in Minnesota for Michigan.
Ramsland highlighted a number of "statistical anomalies and red flags" he claimed proved "that election results have been manipulated within the Dominion/Premier system in Michigan."
He specifically highlighted several precincts in Michigan where the number of votes cast appeared to exceed the number of registered voters in the county.
Many of the municipalities cited in the Michigan (MI) document, such as Albertville, Houston, Monticello, Runeberg, Lake Lillian, Brownsville, Wolf Lake, Height of Land, Detroit Lakes, Frazee, and Kandiyohi, are located in Minnesota (MN).
The affidavit was filed Tuesday. A federal judge dismissed Wood's lawsuit on Thursday, which sought to halt the certification of Georgia's election, saying it came too late and lacked merit.
Biden had NO voters! The jays a fact,,,, even with the fraud we still cooked them like Hildabeast! They know they are liars and cheats and this is why the Trump train needs to run them down and run them over! No Brakes!!!
That's 400,000 OVER the maximum number of registered voters. Typical voter turnout is like 70% of registered voters or so. In reality, it's a million plus bullshit ballots.
Same day registration does not bring the registry up by 44% even in the best of cases, and in this case, same day registrants would have to be at least 60% republican based on the in person voting data. Where the hell did all these biden votes come from?
I keep saying the cases are overwhelming - anyone that is certifying this election will be conspiring to commit fraud. They are so desperate to rush it to make sure the cases dont happen.
If people hadn't turned out in droves to support DJT, this clear cut evidence probably wouldn't have been so clear cut. It's the fact that they had to make up such a large deficit that they got caught. Thanks to all patriots!
Within hours of the filing it was noticed here.
The next day was it was on "news" articles, many online blogs and youtubers n War Room n such.
I would have to think that it has been brought to attention,
Unfortunately, your post is the most current news I have read or heard.
THANK YOU <---caps
Careful -
They screwed this up a bit. Someone on his team told him some of those precincts were in MI - they’re not - they’re in MINNESOTA. Not all -but some.
dem shills are throwing this out because the labeling of which state this is related to was incorrect. precincts from two states were included under the michigan affadavit. "muh mislabeling means dRUmPh is wRoNG". increible what people can convince themselves of.
Until now, not even I realized we had such a solid case in Michigan.
Gone for a day and you are lost. Things are moving.
I keep posting this: In a fair election, POTUS Trump would have gotten 500+ EC votes.
I literally believe ALL 538 votes is possible!
Anything less than 500, and I'm still calling shenanigans! 👌
Gone for an hour and you are lost! Doesn't help my addiction!!
There's literally so much going on, that it's hard to keep track of all of it.
Now imagine being a low info normie.
That's why it's going to be a roller coaster once the normies who lean left find out about all of this.
I am hoping the moderates keep jumping ship. The actual leftards, which seem to start right after the left leaners are a lost cause.
I'm sure more will, especially if Biden "wins" the rig. The purity spiral will engulf the Democratic Party, and burn it to the ground.
i mean there's bunch of ppl on twitter just spam commenting on trump saying "FUCK IT YOU LOST", but keep your heads up pedes, we'll fight back at the horrible, fat-ass dems
The problem with this fraud is it's lots of circumstantial evidence, very very hard to prove.
Makes me wonder why republicans haven't been cheating for decades? They have always rolled over, and it's finally caught up to us
first I've seen of the half million number. Everybody keeps throwing out the 137k ballots that showed up or the 170k ballots attached to zero voters
They used two methods, hacked/manual electronic voting but he was still losing so bad that’s where the late morning fake vote mail in dumps were required
https://nationalfile.com/election-fraud-expert-michigans-election-results-are-physical-impossibility/
i think this is the filing where they mixed up states in one of their addendum.
Anyone has a complete listing like this one from the 17th
https://healthyelections.org/sites/default/files/2020-11/Post-Election-Litigation-Update-111720.pdf
but updated to this week?
I will assume this is true. This should be a cut and dry case to get MI results thrown out.
"The fact that we observed raw vote data that includes decimal places...."
Were they too stupid to round vote tallies to whole numbers?
US v. Throckmorton - "fraud vitiates all judgments"
Essentially, you can't have anything recognized as legal that has fraud in it.
I was about to say the same thing. Is this in court? If so, it casts enough doubt on MI to cancel the entire thing.
Awesome! Whose case is this submitted under?
If they cancel the whole thing, who would win the “popular vote?” Who would get the electors?
Legislature gets to pick, or their state sends no electors. Jamming the system by invalidating states sending electors is still a win-condition for us.
That’s kind of a bull shit rule if we can prove one side caused the fraud. The other side by default should win flat out. Otherwise if the scale is tipped in the direction of people willing to commit fraud, there would be no reason not to commit fraud.
Yeah, I agree that it's a really unfortunate consequence. But it's baked in there with the hopes that some part of the system would be uncorrupted enough to stop the kind of constitutional crisis that we're finding ourselves in today. This is probably the first time we'll see whether the founders' many emergency systems have failed.
The reason that cheating isn't immediate disqualification (though some states may choose to select their electors with that in mind) is because the other side could just cheat badly on behalf of their opponent, get caught, and then win the election. If we punished getting caught with death, that might be a better option. Unfortunately, we do not.
This is the thing. Punishment for committing election fraud is way too weak. Most of the time the courts don’t even want to tackle it, you have to force them into it.
Also it’s far too easy to set people up to do the actual fraud (lower level employees) then if caught, the people actually behind planning the fraud don’t get punishment at all.
That risks a different failure mode, where one side commits fraud that benefits the other to get them thrown out.
I’m saying if proven, the side that commits the fraud looses. We would have to prove that it wasn’t one side making it look like the other side cheated of course. In this case, the fraud is pretty obvious and it wasn’t the republicans that were keeping the democrats out of the polling stations for instance.
A lot of those townships are in Minnesota. I'm not sure if all of them are. A typo using MI instead of MN?
Correct. This is the notorious "Somebody confused MN with MI" error.
What's interesting is the response to this "They couldn't even get MI vs MN right. The rest of the data is false!"
To which I say, "You mean if there are any inaccuracies, then we should just throw out all the data? Ok, let's talk about the 2020 election data...."
E X A C T L Y!!
Yes, this is a common tactic: find an error, a weak link, one dodgy association, and use that to dismiss everything.
Hoping its just a typo and its actual statistical data for minnesota. If we did this well in minnesota then the dems are really fucked
It is all of them.
Nope
It's all of them. I just looked every single one of them up.
I wonder -- as United States voters could we file a class action suit against these contested states for certifying despite overwhelming evidence of fraud? One would assume (not knowing much about election law) that we (as citizens) have some rights in the matter.
If our choice for president has been negated through fraud -- then "we, the people" could also be considered "an injured party" -- couldn't we?
I imagine if we (collectively) were to donate -- we could retain counsel. Can you picture a "The Donald. Win vs.State" court case? It certainly would not hurt for "we, the people" to come out swinging on President Trump's behalf.
Just a thought -- I am not even sure the mods would be interested in doing this or if it would even be legally possible to act as a formal unit.
I remember a post here saying that any GA citizen could file a lawsuit once the results were certified. Your results may vary depending on your state.
This seems like a valid point to me. I don’t know what the law is on this either, but we need some form of redress. This robbery must not stand.
If someone was smart enough to get something off the ground count me in for twenty bucks to help.
Looks like a kracken to me.
Big oopsie.
Seems like a major f*ck up to me. Hope it doesn't cost us. No doom.
Uhhh BIG oopsie
What does this mean for the affidavit?
Biden had NO voters! The jays a fact,,,, even with the fraud we still cooked them like Hildabeast! They know they are liars and cheats and this is why the Trump train needs to run them down and run them over! No Brakes!!!
Someone messed up the shortened state. It isn't fake news
That's 400,000 OVER the maximum number of registered voters. Typical voter turnout is like 70% of registered voters or so. In reality, it's a million plus bullshit ballots.
Same day registration does not bring the registry up by 44% even in the best of cases, and in this case, same day registrants would have to be at least 60% republican based on the in person voting data. Where the hell did all these biden votes come from?
I keep saying the cases are overwhelming - anyone that is certifying this election will be conspiring to commit fraud. They are so desperate to rush it to make sure the cases dont happen.
It’s clear desperation from Dems made this more evident. Gonna be an interesting SCOTUS hearing...
If people hadn't turned out in droves to support DJT, this clear cut evidence probably wouldn't have been so clear cut. It's the fact that they had to make up such a large deficit that they got caught. Thanks to all patriots!
If this is allowed to go through, the country is done. We need to separate
Nothing suspicious here. Let me tell you how statistics and probability is racist.
Trying to find my grandpa’s birth info. We received Dem voting info for him in the mail a few months ago, but my Mom tossed it. He died 15 years ago.
Full Spectrum Fraud
Biden "behind" by 400,000 votes in Michigan.
That is the first logical thing I have seen in Michigan.
Here are 127,000 'miraculous' none registered voters in Michigan sending in Mail-in ballots...
EXCLUSIVE: Michigan's IMPOSSIBLE 173K Anonymous Votes!? | Louder With Crowder.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl4ZFS3xORM&feature=emb_title
I am going to bet that these 2 issues are directly connected.
HELP re MN n MI - go find the new one and let us know: Case 1:20-cv-04651-SDG OP:https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.gand.283580/gov.uscourts.gand.283580.7.1_2.pdf
https://www.democracydocket.com/ or https://www.courtlistener.com/
Unfortunately, this exhibit was notarized the next day. https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/18632787/wood-v-raffensperger/#entry-20
As of right now, there is still no dockett entry for a motion to amend this exhibit.
Within hours of the filing it was noticed here. The next day was it was on "news" articles, many online blogs and youtubers n War Room n such. I would have to think that it has been brought to attention, Unfortunately, your post is the most current news I have read or heard. THANK YOU <---caps
Careful - They screwed this up a bit. Someone on his team told him some of those precincts were in MI - they’re not - they’re in MINNESOTA. Not all -but some.
Where Benville Township? How big is it? Is that 350% significant when converted to actual numbers?
Belleville twp is in Wayne Co MI.
The population of Benville Township is 65
Where is it?
Minnesota
Everyone should understand this. Important.
lol the supreme court gonna laugh their ass off
That's insane. Hope it all gets proven in court!
That is one impressive get out the vote drive the Dems put together, huh?
COMMIE SCUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dem shills are throwing this out because the labeling of which state this is related to was incorrect. precincts from two states were included under the michigan affadavit. "muh mislabeling means dRUmPh is wRoNG". increible what people can convince themselves of.
Move along, nothing to see here,, that's right move along...
signed,
the dnc
Really hoping some solid EvIdEnCe comes in soon!
WHOA. AND ALL THE LEFT WING MSM SAYING THIS WASN’T TRUE WERE LYING!! COLOR ME SURPRISED.
My election fraud folder just keeps getting bigger!
"In Benville Twp, we voted THREE TIMES just to make SURE they knew who we wanted to win!"
Fucking disgraceful that the media is declaring Biden the winner and won’t even fucking look at this
Not surprising at all.
They won’t look at any evidence of fraud. Hell even the courts aren’t lookin at this or taking any of it seriously.
It appears this exhibit was notarized the following day. Here's a link to this exhibit in the dockett entries with a notary stamp.
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/18632787/wood-v-raffensperger/#entry-20
As of right now, there is still no dockett entry for a motion to amend this exhibit.