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Before Trump, we haven't had anyone with the balls enough to fight back. They all just roll over and surrender.
2016 was a wake up for a lot of us; and now we're finally getting to the point where we can fight back. But a lot of us, at least me, had no idea it was even happening until recently.
Now we're trying to figure out how far back it goes. A lot of people in our party are still bought/not ready to fight up to the threats, etc. so it's a hard thing to do to right.
Thankfully many see Trump fighting, and are willing to fight too. But it's hard with threats of violence to kids and family and pets.
Disagree with nearly everything in your comment. When Trump calls on his supporters to rally, we do so in numbers and places unimaginable.. He knows if he calls on us to fight for the Republic we will do so in numbers and places unimaginable. It's not time yet.
Well for starters have Homeland Security (in charge of election integrity) station forces at the ballot counting centers. As soon as observers are threatened/excluded--halt the count. Arrest the supervisors.
Independently quarantine the votes. Guard the count centers at night...a strange vehicle arrives at 4a.m. with votes--impound the vehicles etc.
Next day nationally round up/arrest EVERYONE suspiciously connected tp alleged voter fraud. START from there.
I would have sacked Sessions after a year, Wray after two years and Barr a year ago.
We call it a uniparty because republicans are effectively democrats with different marketing and branding. Or as the late George Carlin put it, "it's one big club, and you're not in it." (quoting from memory, not a direct quote).
Regarding the voters, our people are more lawful by inclination and tend to have careers, families, etc. that contribute to keeping us in line. We rarely protest and when we do it is always clean. When the left protests they always litter the area with their trash, which is the best case scenario as opposed to rioting/looting. However, once the right decides to march it will likely be an armed revolt, and they won't be targeting Wal-Mart TVs.
The Republican Party is the 'LAW AND ORDER' party... We support the CONSTITUTION and Liberty it was created to protect...
These positions require us to Defend THE LAW FIRST AND FOREMOST...
and that is a heavy burden - that takes time - and intelligence and 'all the facts' before brach actions are taken.
The LEFT can riot at the drop of a hat... no one else will care and if the City is Democrat led (as most rioting cities are) then the Mayor will order the police to stand down... and let the city burn... or as a Famous Baltimore Mayor said just a few years back... "Let them loot"
Another reason is that the left is trying to encourage someone to violently fight back so that they can use it as an excuse to jail/assault/murder/ all conservatives. A reverse version of hands-up-don't-shoot excuse for more riots. Witness the vilification of the proud boys. This requires a different type of OODA loop.
They wish to restore the government of bribery and extortion for their personal benefit that Trump is dismantling.
As much as we admire fictional characters like Batman and the Punisher, the truth is that vigilante justice is frowned upon, because it subverts the rule of law. (Of course, in the context of these specific fictional stories, the rule of law is completely broken, and extreme measures are needed to protect the innocent.)
So the reason that you don't see swaths of patriots taking to the streets to fight these people, is because we still believe in the rule of law. Granted, our disposition is predicated on the fact that Donald Trump is the Commander in Chief, and has plans to deal with these threats. I would imagine that if Joe Biden actually becomes president, and ANTIFA becomes a staple of everyday life, then you will indeed see civil war break out.
But the fact remains, once we cross that threshold, there is no going back. Violence will only lead to more violence, and once the chaos truly erupts, our country will be vulnerable to foreign invasion by nefarious enemies. (Quite frankly, I think our enemies WANT us to engage in street violence, for this very reason.) A broken America is much easier to conquer.
The other aspect of this is the fact that the filmed violence you are seeing across the internet are very isolated events. While they are happening in many cities across the country, they are general contained to a very small geographic area (a few city blocks) and are not being personally witnessed by the overwhelming majority of Americans. If that were to change-- if it became more widespread-- then you would likely see a more organized response from patriots.
We have our orders from Trump: "Stand down and stand by."
We are waiting, but admittedly getting very restless. We remain hopeful that Trump and his team will prevail, but also remain steadfast and ready to respond to an escalated threat, if it comes to our neighborhood. (We aren't going to go looking for the fight, but are ready to deal with it, if it comes to us.)
Hope this makes sense. We are ready for war, but pray it doesn't come to that.
I'm not sure exactly what you mean because all republican elected officials are compromised so we don't expect them to fight back, they are our enemies. Regular pople haven't yet taken up arms but hopefully that will change soon, that's looking like the only option we have left.
That's call politic, doesn't matter what they call themselves, because politicians are the best liars they're willing to sell everything out for their personal gain, that's why you see so many backstabber.
Also the parties are very much geographically separated. Major urban areas are entirely owned by Democrats top to bottom. Meanwhile everything out of the cities leans pretty hard Republican. So the reason you don't see people fighting back against much of the destruction is that it's not Dems burning down Republican towns, it's Dems burning down their own homes. There were a few attempts and threats by BLM and Antifa to leave the cities that were generally preceeded by armed gatherings of Republicans and thus cancelled.
As far as opportunity, these people are life's failures. They don't want the opportunity to succeed, they want UBI so they can buy a bunch of weed and sit on the couch all day.
The Republican party is filled with RINOs who don't fight for us. They are just members of the uniparty, along with the Democrats.
By extension, the other side is allowed to attack people in the streets with impunity because RINO/Democrat politicians tell their police not to make arrests. Or if the cops are forced to make an arrest, the DA just lets them go.
When someone on our side DEFENDS themself (i.e. Kyle Rittenhouse) they are framed by the MSM as the problem, while also framing the rioters/looters as "peaceful protestors." Then our NPC society filled with obese retards laps it up.
I've travelled a lot and lived in many countries, sad to say the right in America is a huge disappointment more often than not.
The Republican politicians are weak, that is for sure but so are people on the right in general. We talk a big game and own a lot of guns but we tend not to want to do much. Most of the replies here blame the Republican politicians but they only act that way as they know they can gt away with it.
Say this steal happened, I am not at all worried about there being violence, I am worried there won't be. The left in America control almost everything, the only substantial thing that was remained was our vote and now they are coming for that.
United States of America is the last best hope for the world period if they can extinguish us, the whole world falls to totalitarianism nightmare. Because capitalism is so successful when properly practiced we remain a beacon and an example of what should be and what could be, which is the opposite of what these evil ball sack liquors can deliver.
Because they’re useless fucktards that just play their role as not as bad as democrats. It’s annoying. Rand Paul was attacked 3 times in 4 years. The entire fucking GOP was attacked at a ballgame practice. The media attacks them all day, every day. Yet they just roll over and get fucked no matter how bad it gets. Where have you seen the gop stand up for their supporters? These faggots refuse to find their balls and throw us all under the bus.
It’s so annoying. The only real fighters we have are women and President Trump. The rest are spineless pussies for the most part. We have a few good ones but overall the gop is as useless as tits on a frog.
At the individual level, Republicans like to think of themselves as believing in "law and order".
Democrats are divided among people who claim to believe in the law, and people who say fuck da police, but all of them ultimately support breaking the rules (overtly or surreptitiously) because the rules are unfair and oppressive.
At the politician level, the Republican/Democrat divide is fake. At the highest levels we are run by a Uniparty. They pretend to fight for votes, but then behind the scenes they make secret deals over who will take control of what in exchange for kickbacks, and they get money from the same special interests. Some politicians consider these backdoor negotiations as a legitimate part of the process, and still pretend their party is winning, but the problem is that the Democrats almost always come out on top thanks to their backstabbing ideology. It has gotten worse since the Clintons took over the party and Hillary collected blackmail information on politicians on both sides.
So of course the politicians won't support the individuals if they fight back. On top of that the MSM is controlled by leftists that report and magnify any threats or "extremist" behavior from the right, while they ignore or downplay actual violence from other leftists. The FBI follows suit, only investigating what they want to investigate, and making sure nobody on the right can "fight back".
The guns are loaded but we don't know who to shoot.
2020 has shown that there is an international conspiracy to destroy the liberties of Americans. Killing the cat's paws - Brennan, Mueller, Dorsey, Zuckerberg won't make the change we want as the vacuum of power left will be filled in by either a worse American or a Chinese lunatic.
We are looking for the ringleader and then excise him. We're not sure if it is Soros.
Leftists/Liberals are fragile people. It is kind of like the big brother that is typical and he has a little retarded brother that gets mad and screams and breaks things sometimes...
Everyone around understands, usually they will give a head nod and continue on their way. They are mentally ill because of the brainwashing they were pumped full of at so many levels over so many years... the Liberal/Leftist reality is like a TV Show, if even that.
They are corrupt politicians, with few exceptions. There's a reason the stereotype for politician is sleazy, greasy, taking bribes, out for themselves etc. It's well earned, stereotypes are based in reality, they are not just randomly assigned. All they care about is themselves and their own grift. Hence why 95% of the political establishment has been fighting Trump. It's certainly not for whatever bullshit reasons they tell us morons, like he's racist or hates immigrants or whatever. It's because he is obviously not in this for money (takes no salary, lost a lot of net worth and destroyed his reputation with the establishment so will never be on TV shows or any of that shit again.) and will end their gravy train.
jack shit. We once held the title of being the 3rd wealthiest nation in the western hemisphere until a trump hating socialist took over as our prime minister and is now trying to sell our state assets to china and venezuela hence i hope for a trump victory to stop this. You see. The people in our country vote based on skin color, not policies.
The political system neuters most people. In order to move through the system from the start you need to be nice and take money. Nice people in debt generally aren't tough.
Before Trump, we haven't had anyone with the balls enough to fight back. They all just roll over and surrender.
2016 was a wake up for a lot of us; and now we're finally getting to the point where we can fight back. But a lot of us, at least me, had no idea it was even happening until recently.
Now we're trying to figure out how far back it goes. A lot of people in our party are still bought/not ready to fight up to the threats, etc. so it's a hard thing to do to right.
Thankfully many see Trump fighting, and are willing to fight too. But it's hard with threats of violence to kids and family and pets.
They're a uniparty, why would they fight back? Left vs right is a scam
Disagree with nearly everything in your comment. When Trump calls on his supporters to rally, we do so in numbers and places unimaginable.. He knows if he calls on us to fight for the Republic we will do so in numbers and places unimaginable. It's not time yet.
Our enemies here are retarted and confused. They cant break anything we cant fix. Guns arent needed for this fight.
And you would have done what?
Well for starters have Homeland Security (in charge of election integrity) station forces at the ballot counting centers. As soon as observers are threatened/excluded--halt the count. Arrest the supervisors.
Independently quarantine the votes. Guard the count centers at night...a strange vehicle arrives at 4a.m. with votes--impound the vehicles etc.
Next day nationally round up/arrest EVERYONE suspiciously connected tp alleged voter fraud. START from there.
I would have sacked Sessions after a year, Wray after two years and Barr a year ago.
We call it a uniparty because republicans are effectively democrats with different marketing and branding. Or as the late George Carlin put it, "it's one big club, and you're not in it." (quoting from memory, not a direct quote).
Here ya go
That's the one 👍🏻
Many Republican Party politicians are turncoats.
Regarding the voters, our people are more lawful by inclination and tend to have careers, families, etc. that contribute to keeping us in line. We rarely protest and when we do it is always clean. When the left protests they always litter the area with their trash, which is the best case scenario as opposed to rioting/looting. However, once the right decides to march it will likely be an armed revolt, and they won't be targeting Wal-Mart TVs.
The Republican Party is the 'LAW AND ORDER' party... We support the CONSTITUTION and Liberty it was created to protect...
These positions require us to Defend THE LAW FIRST AND FOREMOST...
and that is a heavy burden - that takes time - and intelligence and 'all the facts' before brach actions are taken.
The LEFT can riot at the drop of a hat... no one else will care and if the City is Democrat led (as most rioting cities are) then the Mayor will order the police to stand down... and let the city burn... or as a Famous Baltimore Mayor said just a few years back... "Let them loot"
Another reason is that the left is trying to encourage someone to violently fight back so that they can use it as an excuse to jail/assault/murder/ all conservatives. A reverse version of hands-up-don't-shoot excuse for more riots. Witness the vilification of the proud boys. This requires a different type of OODA loop.
They wish to restore the government of bribery and extortion for their personal benefit that Trump is dismantling.
Half of Republican politicians are sell-outs, only in it for themselves.
Most of the other half are too weak, or too "principled" to fight hard.
It's not their party anymore. How many retired in Trumps 1st yr? 40? and the 2nd yr too, about 40. I think i got that right.
I'm ready to fight for the Republic
This is great question.
As much as we admire fictional characters like Batman and the Punisher, the truth is that vigilante justice is frowned upon, because it subverts the rule of law. (Of course, in the context of these specific fictional stories, the rule of law is completely broken, and extreme measures are needed to protect the innocent.)
So the reason that you don't see swaths of patriots taking to the streets to fight these people, is because we still believe in the rule of law. Granted, our disposition is predicated on the fact that Donald Trump is the Commander in Chief, and has plans to deal with these threats. I would imagine that if Joe Biden actually becomes president, and ANTIFA becomes a staple of everyday life, then you will indeed see civil war break out.
But the fact remains, once we cross that threshold, there is no going back. Violence will only lead to more violence, and once the chaos truly erupts, our country will be vulnerable to foreign invasion by nefarious enemies. (Quite frankly, I think our enemies WANT us to engage in street violence, for this very reason.) A broken America is much easier to conquer.
The other aspect of this is the fact that the filmed violence you are seeing across the internet are very isolated events. While they are happening in many cities across the country, they are general contained to a very small geographic area (a few city blocks) and are not being personally witnessed by the overwhelming majority of Americans. If that were to change-- if it became more widespread-- then you would likely see a more organized response from patriots.
We have our orders from Trump: "Stand down and stand by."
We are waiting, but admittedly getting very restless. We remain hopeful that Trump and his team will prevail, but also remain steadfast and ready to respond to an escalated threat, if it comes to our neighborhood. (We aren't going to go looking for the fight, but are ready to deal with it, if it comes to us.)
Hope this makes sense. We are ready for war, but pray it doesn't come to that.
I'm not sure exactly what you mean because all republican elected officials are compromised so we don't expect them to fight back, they are our enemies. Regular pople haven't yet taken up arms but hopefully that will change soon, that's looking like the only option we have left.
Morals and cozy lives they don’t want to risk. Will continue to lose til their backs are against the wall.
That's call politic, doesn't matter what they call themselves, because politicians are the best liars they're willing to sell everything out for their personal gain, that's why you see so many backstabber.
It's because they have been castrated.
Remember that Communists have been working to undermine America since the 1930s.
Its a uniparty, the establishment will support themselves.
Also the parties are very much geographically separated. Major urban areas are entirely owned by Democrats top to bottom. Meanwhile everything out of the cities leans pretty hard Republican. So the reason you don't see people fighting back against much of the destruction is that it's not Dems burning down Republican towns, it's Dems burning down their own homes. There were a few attempts and threats by BLM and Antifa to leave the cities that were generally preceeded by armed gatherings of Republicans and thus cancelled.
As far as opportunity, these people are life's failures. They don't want the opportunity to succeed, they want UBI so they can buy a bunch of weed and sit on the couch all day.
The Republican party is filled with RINOs who don't fight for us. They are just members of the uniparty, along with the Democrats.
By extension, the other side is allowed to attack people in the streets with impunity because RINO/Democrat politicians tell their police not to make arrests. Or if the cops are forced to make an arrest, the DA just lets them go.
When someone on our side DEFENDS themself (i.e. Kyle Rittenhouse) they are framed by the MSM as the problem, while also framing the rioters/looters as "peaceful protestors." Then our NPC society filled with obese retards laps it up.
9/11 + Patriot Act + Spy Powers + Leverage.
Our enemy wasn't particularly clear before. They slithered in the tall grass, obfuscated, camouflaged.
Now? It's fucking crystal who we're dealing with.
I've travelled a lot and lived in many countries, sad to say the right in America is a huge disappointment more often than not.
The Republican politicians are weak, that is for sure but so are people on the right in general. We talk a big game and own a lot of guns but we tend not to want to do much. Most of the replies here blame the Republican politicians but they only act that way as they know they can gt away with it.
Say this steal happened, I am not at all worried about there being violence, I am worried there won't be. The left in America control almost everything, the only substantial thing that was remained was our vote and now they are coming for that.
Republicans are in on it too. That's the very simple answer to these questions.
It's not two parties fighting each other. It's our government fighting the people they work for.
United States of America is the last best hope for the world period if they can extinguish us, the whole world falls to totalitarianism nightmare. Because capitalism is so successful when properly practiced we remain a beacon and an example of what should be and what could be, which is the opposite of what these evil ball sack liquors can deliver.
CPTSD Complex Post Traumatic Disorder, or Stockholm syndrome IE: the inability to call out your abusers as a co-dependent.
Because they’re useless fucktards that just play their role as not as bad as democrats. It’s annoying. Rand Paul was attacked 3 times in 4 years. The entire fucking GOP was attacked at a ballgame practice. The media attacks them all day, every day. Yet they just roll over and get fucked no matter how bad it gets. Where have you seen the gop stand up for their supporters? These faggots refuse to find their balls and throw us all under the bus.
It’s so annoying. The only real fighters we have are women and President Trump. The rest are spineless pussies for the most part. We have a few good ones but overall the gop is as useless as tits on a frog.
There’s one party control of all media.
When the truth is presented, the media doesn’t cover it, therefore it doesn’t exist for many Americans. It’s hard to win that way.
There will be a tipping point for those who love this nation.
At the individual level, Republicans like to think of themselves as believing in "law and order".
Democrats are divided among people who claim to believe in the law, and people who say fuck da police, but all of them ultimately support breaking the rules (overtly or surreptitiously) because the rules are unfair and oppressive.
At the politician level, the Republican/Democrat divide is fake. At the highest levels we are run by a Uniparty. They pretend to fight for votes, but then behind the scenes they make secret deals over who will take control of what in exchange for kickbacks, and they get money from the same special interests. Some politicians consider these backdoor negotiations as a legitimate part of the process, and still pretend their party is winning, but the problem is that the Democrats almost always come out on top thanks to their backstabbing ideology. It has gotten worse since the Clintons took over the party and Hillary collected blackmail information on politicians on both sides.
So of course the politicians won't support the individuals if they fight back. On top of that the MSM is controlled by leftists that report and magnify any threats or "extremist" behavior from the right, while they ignore or downplay actual violence from other leftists. The FBI follows suit, only investigating what they want to investigate, and making sure nobody on the right can "fight back".
Short answer:
The guns are loaded but we don't know who to shoot.
2020 has shown that there is an international conspiracy to destroy the liberties of Americans. Killing the cat's paws - Brennan, Mueller, Dorsey, Zuckerberg won't make the change we want as the vacuum of power left will be filled in by either a worse American or a Chinese lunatic.
We are looking for the ringleader and then excise him. We're not sure if it is Soros.
Because they're the same thing
Leftists/Liberals are fragile people. It is kind of like the big brother that is typical and he has a little retarded brother that gets mad and screams and breaks things sometimes...
Everyone around understands, usually they will give a head nod and continue on their way. They are mentally ill because of the brainwashing they were pumped full of at so many levels over so many years... the Liberal/Leftist reality is like a TV Show, if even that.
They are corrupt politicians, with few exceptions. There's a reason the stereotype for politician is sleazy, greasy, taking bribes, out for themselves etc. It's well earned, stereotypes are based in reality, they are not just randomly assigned. All they care about is themselves and their own grift. Hence why 95% of the political establishment has been fighting Trump. It's certainly not for whatever bullshit reasons they tell us morons, like he's racist or hates immigrants or whatever. It's because he is obviously not in this for money (takes no salary, lost a lot of net worth and destroyed his reputation with the establishment so will never be on TV shows or any of that shit again.) and will end their gravy train.
I'm not being snide, I'm legitimately curious... what have you guys done in your country?
jack shit. We once held the title of being the 3rd wealthiest nation in the western hemisphere until a trump hating socialist took over as our prime minister and is now trying to sell our state assets to china and venezuela hence i hope for a trump victory to stop this. You see. The people in our country vote based on skin color, not policies.
The political system neuters most people. In order to move through the system from the start you need to be nice and take money. Nice people in debt generally aren't tough.
Trump isn't nice and he didn't take money.
They think they'll get to heaven by being morally righteous and taking the high road.