This alone should invalidate all votes from those machines. You can’t make a “small” update and just have everyone trust that the changes don’t need to be verified
I thought that any update MUST be certified before being done and that any updates had a time limit before an election in order to properly certify.
This is obviously a planned an coordinated effort to commit election fraud nationwide.
Here is an excerpt from the article:
“This is far bigger than we originally thought,” Cross told U.S. District Judge Amy Totenberg. “It’s hard to imagine a more concerning scenario.”
He said the software upgrade is being made without adequate security testing or certification from the U.S. Election Assistance Commission. But Coomer said the change is minor and doesn’t require recertification.
Prison rape isn't a joke. How many of our people are afraid to act, because they don't want to be taken to prison where psycho guards turn the other way while you're raped and terrorized? We need to clean our prisons up big time, because dangerous prisons stop good people from doing the right thing in times like this.
You’re right it’s not a joke but this guy is potentially guilty of some heinous crimes not just in America but all around the world since dominion is used in other countries. It’s called karma. If he is found guilty, then he gets what he deserves.
Yeah I don't mean to be a zealot about it, but I really feel the way people have completely accepted "anal prison rape" is pretty horrible. If our enemies wind up in prison, I would accept them simply being in prison and not raped. That is good enough for me. And I think better for the world and our conscience.
I would say you’re morally correct but the reason guards look the other way I can only assume is because the people they are supposed to guard are horrible people. Not saying it’s right but if we want to get philosophical about it I’m sure a rigged election probably resulted in the pain and suffering for at least one other person if not thousands or millions. So yeah you’re right but also I don’t care what happens to him if he is found guilty.
If you're not so soft on the moral/philosphical argument, how about the strategic? The corrupt judges let Antifa rioters free, but we know they'd lock us up and throw away the key. How many good hearted people are afraid to challenge blatant corruption due to fear of being thrown in prison and raped/beaten with no recourse? We need a morally righteous prison system, because someday the morally righteous might find themselves within its confines.
I don’t know. If anything held me back from fighting back it wouldn’t be worried about rape. It would probably be losing my job and not being able to provide for myself and family. I’m sure that fear holds some people back.
It might not have been him. It might have been the kraken. We know they were hacked in 2016 when they tried. Isn’t it a little odd how obvious the fraud was. Do we really think their programmers are that incompetent?
Just look at Joe blatantly laundering bribe money and US aid kickbacks through Hunter. Look at Killary doing, well, thousands of crimes and not giving one care that everyone knows. Look at Pelosi, running China white heroine through her warehouses and profiteering, via her husband, on insuser trading. Look at Omar, outright paying for votes, marrying her brother, & syphoning election $$$$ into her boyfriend's company, not to mention having an innocent woman murdered.
A lot of things are done at the last minute for innocent reasons.
Much more concern should be raised if there were patches/upgrades applied during the count or shortly after the election to cover any tracks.
When we get to election reform, this should be one of the items of transparency. The patch log should be public and no patches within a certain amount of time before the election, say 30 days. During those 30 days, ballots have to be run and tested. This is not foolproof, as a hack could be triggered by date, but it's an improvement over the way it is today.
The same 30 days should apply after the election or until the election is certified and all legal challenges are over, whichever is longer.
Assume everything is on the up-and-up here. (it isn’t)
IANA software tech guy. But, I’m guessing rolling out a last minute update isn’t great practice. Your beta testers are American voters in a Presidential election. Seems like you should have had all of this worked out ahead of time.
But seriously, how hard should a program like this be to code if you weren’t going to cheat? It’s literally just counting. I know there is a security issue (in a fair system) but counting ballots seems like something I could learn to code in a weekend.
I am a software guy and I assure you that since voting machines have clocks the timeframe in which a patch is applied does not matter. Cheating could be triggered by time.
The machines do image recognition so the code is quite complex and prone to missmatches. It is not just counting punch holes like the old ones.
Machines should only be used to do a control count of a manual count. Like a helping tool not be the main show.
... I’m guessing rolling out a last minute update isn’t great practice.
It's a horrible practice.
It happens much too often in most IT sectors usually due to incompetent IT managers who say "Just do it, we'll fix the problems later" after the tech staff tell them "It's not ready yet."
CEO?
Yea Eric’s not the CEO of dominion. C’mon guys.
The publication put it in their headline. What a crap source.
Wow, all respect lost for a source if they can’t get such a simple and basic fact right.
Right under the headline it has a picture of Coomer with his job title on it🙄
Lol wtf. Pitiful.
Don't believe me? Click on the link. It's sad.
No I do believe you and saw it. I’m agreeing and saying it’s pathetic “journalism” on their part.
This alone should invalidate all votes from those machines. You can’t make a “small” update and just have everyone trust that the changes don’t need to be verified
If we allow Biden to wiggle into office, he will very much walk free, and there will never be another valid US election ever again.
I thought that any update MUST be certified before being done and that any updates had a time limit before an election in order to properly certify.
This is obviously a planned an coordinated effort to commit election fraud nationwide.
Here is an excerpt from the article:
“This is far bigger than we originally thought,” Cross told U.S. District Judge Amy Totenberg. “It’s hard to imagine a more concerning scenario.” He said the software upgrade is being made without adequate security testing or certification from the U.S. Election Assistance Commission. But Coomer said the change is minor and doesn’t require recertification.
Coomer is lying of course!
All updates are required to be certified.
They broke state law.
That's the law. Dems don't care about laws
I’m gonna COOM
Why is he not under arrest?
This guy is going to get fucked so hard in prison
Prison rape isn't a joke. How many of our people are afraid to act, because they don't want to be taken to prison where psycho guards turn the other way while you're raped and terrorized? We need to clean our prisons up big time, because dangerous prisons stop good people from doing the right thing in times like this.
You’re right it’s not a joke but this guy is potentially guilty of some heinous crimes not just in America but all around the world since dominion is used in other countries. It’s called karma. If he is found guilty, then he gets what he deserves.
Yeah I don't mean to be a zealot about it, but I really feel the way people have completely accepted "anal prison rape" is pretty horrible. If our enemies wind up in prison, I would accept them simply being in prison and not raped. That is good enough for me. And I think better for the world and our conscience.
I would say you’re morally correct but the reason guards look the other way I can only assume is because the people they are supposed to guard are horrible people. Not saying it’s right but if we want to get philosophical about it I’m sure a rigged election probably resulted in the pain and suffering for at least one other person if not thousands or millions. So yeah you’re right but also I don’t care what happens to him if he is found guilty.
If you're not so soft on the moral/philosphical argument, how about the strategic? The corrupt judges let Antifa rioters free, but we know they'd lock us up and throw away the key. How many good hearted people are afraid to challenge blatant corruption due to fear of being thrown in prison and raped/beaten with no recourse? We need a morally righteous prison system, because someday the morally righteous might find themselves within its confines.
I don’t know. If anything held me back from fighting back it wouldn’t be worried about rape. It would probably be losing my job and not being able to provide for myself and family. I’m sure that fear holds some people back.
He sold his soul for money and power.
We heard this contemporaneously.
I remember that be mentioned just as counts started coming in.
Eric works for Dominion but isn’t the CEO. His story is still very important but butchering basic facts like this makes us look bad.
Waited to see numbers from other states?
It might not have been him. It might have been the kraken. We know they were hacked in 2016 when they tried. Isn’t it a little odd how obvious the fraud was. Do we really think their programmers are that incompetent?
I think they are precisely that arrogant.
Just look at Joe blatantly laundering bribe money and US aid kickbacks through Hunter. Look at Killary doing, well, thousands of crimes and not giving one care that everyone knows. Look at Pelosi, running China white heroine through her warehouses and profiteering, via her husband, on insuser trading. Look at Omar, outright paying for votes, marrying her brother, & syphoning election $$$$ into her boyfriend's company, not to mention having an innocent woman murdered.
They. Are. That. Stupid.
This late an upgrade is not surprising.
A lot of things are done at the last minute for innocent reasons.
Much more concern should be raised if there were patches/upgrades applied during the count or shortly after the election to cover any tracks.
When we get to election reform, this should be one of the items of transparency. The patch log should be public and no patches within a certain amount of time before the election, say 30 days. During those 30 days, ballots have to be run and tested. This is not foolproof, as a hack could be triggered by date, but it's an improvement over the way it is today.
The same 30 days should apply after the election or until the election is certified and all legal challenges are over, whichever is longer.
Assume everything is on the up-and-up here. (it isn’t)
IANA software tech guy. But, I’m guessing rolling out a last minute update isn’t great practice. Your beta testers are American voters in a Presidential election. Seems like you should have had all of this worked out ahead of time.
But seriously, how hard should a program like this be to code if you weren’t going to cheat? It’s literally just counting. I know there is a security issue (in a fair system) but counting ballots seems like something I could learn to code in a weekend.
Seriously.
It is a TABULATOR. The functions should be simple arithmetic.
WHAT THE HELL NEED IS THERE FOR ALGORITHMS?
or is it ONE Person, 0.6775446454 Vote?
I am a software guy and I assure you that since voting machines have clocks the timeframe in which a patch is applied does not matter. Cheating could be triggered by time.
The machines do image recognition so the code is quite complex and prone to missmatches. It is not just counting punch holes like the old ones.
Machines should only be used to do a control count of a manual count. Like a helping tool not be the main show.
It's a horrible practice.
It happens much too often in most IT sectors usually due to incompetent IT managers who say "Just do it, we'll fix the problems later" after the tech staff tell them "It's not ready yet."
It is a matter of WHO did the "upgrades", and his very outspoken motives.
Not to mention the kickbacks he gave to the politicians, from the citizen-paid Dominion contract.