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firestorm117 6 points ago +6 / -0

I feel like we need to change his nickname from Sleepy Joe to Sloppy Joe. His steal attempt here was pretty damned sloppy

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ed_shaw 5 points ago +5 / -0

Computers have the capacity to print-out the processed data. I've never heard of one that didn't. I have heard that Dominion and Diebold machines can be programmed to cheat for a period of time, then erase all traces of cheating. OK, so be it. Still, where are the print-outs? Name, address, ID Number, and candidate selection. Are we saying this data can simply be deleted and we're left with their word?

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Yewki 2 points ago +2 / -0

I wonder how many of these are rounding errors. For example consider the following example. PA has 7 million votes total. Let's say Trump's true percentage is 0.4986, but Edison reports it as 0.499 (rounded up). A vote drop of 3000 comes in and they're all for Biden (for simplicity). Trump's true percentage goes down to 0.4983 but Edison reports it at .498 (rounded down)

From the perspective of the Edison data it looks like Trump lost 5506 votes

Before: 0.499 x 7,000,000 = 3493000

After: 0.498 x 7,003,000 = 3487494

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Refupede 3 points ago +3 / -0

Rounding errors that only happen to one candidate?

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TwoStar 2 points ago +2 / -0

A proper analysis would show whether or not that is the case - we only see the output here, so we can't know the truth. I searched his Twitter to see fi he had more of the story to back it up and didn't see it.

But I did find this analysis that converted and plotted to total votes. It does not show any votes "taken away", but it does show that anomalies such as the ration of votes for each candidate changing in an odd way.

https://fsociety.substack.com/p/2020-election-could-trumps-claims-have-merit

Back to the original data, everyone who is relying solely on Edison percentages without accounting for the range of possible outcomes due to rounding (which I have seen posted here on TD.win in a complex but persuasive way) is fooling themselves.

Using percentages is fine for media consumption and instant gratification, but it would be more trustworthy for them to receive data as total votes and convert it to a percentage however they would like for display (anyone could do that). Going forward, the sites that are going to track totals and display them ought to use total votes reported for the candidate, not percentages.

Spez: You are correct. Anything that shows Trump "lost" votes is a half-assed look at data. Here is good data and good analysis:

https://thedonald.win/p/11QS2woBTq/anomalies-in-vote-counts-and-the/c/