This appears to be incorrect. The 1.8 number is from the primaries.
Spez: as for Rudy, I’m hearing he clarified what he meant and his 1.8 was referencing mailed out ballots. Will dig in later, please comment any more info below.
This is were we win, it’s the boring fundamental stuff that is easily provable that Trump gets his next 4 years on! While I want the hammer to drop and helicopter rides to start, that sensational stuff is harder to prove and takes a lot of time in the courts.
proving dominion is still a goal but showing that the ballots don't follow the simple law called 1+1=2 then it doesn't require the same shitshow. The sooner we flip, the sooner we can get on with getting over covid.
Dominion has proven to basically be Hunter Biden on crack (erm... I guess Hunter Biden on even more crack? or crack and meth?)... giving even more than 10% to the big guy
When you have company execs leaving the country, offices getting cleaned out, paperwork being shredded, other materials being destroyed, failure to show up to a state legislative hearing, employees deleting their LinkedIn accounts en masse, and their US HQ being mostly devoid of anyone for a week or longer...
Look, even Biden himself said that 3+3=5.. so.. you can easily get to those numbers then. (specially with billionfourhundredmillion.. ya know.. 1/30th!)
I keep saying this. We have a team constitutional election and team criminal MOABs on all deep staters, post Trump win. It’s a case that could drag out several years, at least. But we need to win on the less sexy, easily proven fraud toget us enough discounted votes to remain in power first
Yes thank you! No more fucking LARPS! No secret server bullshit. No QSF mArKeD bALlOtS! Just plain old boring MATH! Racist old mathematics at the rescue of white supremacy once again!
Edit: Does anyone have a source for the image showing how many mail in ballots were sent out? Speaking of skepticism let's make sure this post is true.
I'll be honest I really feel like Trump broke Raygun's record. Thank God Trump got as many votes as he did...made this Demoncrat bullshit exceptionally easy to catch and prove. BOOYAH MFers!
That they can reasonably prove, because it's hard to prove what Dominion stole in all the states, as they're only focusing on flipping the swing states.
Also don't forget the guy who wanted to pass a bill requiring individual serial numbers on each mail-in ballot for verification purposes, and he was told it would be vetoed immediately if it was submitted.
Like others have said here, while nationwide this was a highly coordinated scheme with high ranking state D officials shutting down vote counting in multiple states at the same time, there were still low-IQ dipshits just stuffing Biden ballots into machines and other nefarious shit.
they were desperate and disorganized because the algorithm failed. I think there was some random, uncoordinated efforts in addition to DNC coordination. Like an Agatha Christie book where 5 people killed the victim.
It was multifaceted fraud effort. They hoped the algorithm alone would carry the day but in states they owned they had to manufacture votes. They didn't give a fuck about getting caught because Dems don't go to jail anyway.
What is suspiciously absent from this chart is early vote numbers. If they categorized early votes as mail-in votes, this might not be what we think it is.
The Twitter dude's asshole, obviously. His tweet is the only thing that comes up if you Google the number he claimed. This site never verifies claims before accepting them. Haven't you noticed that by now?
I should go tweet something about 3 million Russian votes for Biden and it will be stickied here in 5 minutes, and then Gateway Pundit, Sidney, Lin and Rudy will start talking about it. The bar for evidence here is non-existent and anyone who asks for a source is called a doomer. Very tired of it. The front page is full of memes and disinfo. Meanwhile, any serious, bad news is downvoted to hell. Full-on blinders and tinfoil hat mode. It's crazy here. Reminds me so much of the left in 2016.
I used to upvote and post memes but now I refuse to upvote the noise. I hope as much as all of you that fraud is proven, but this forum is a mess... From previous posts and comment vote ratios I saw that 75% are retarded memelords and 25% of visitors are intelligent and actually trying to help analyze real data and laws to help Trump win... In other words; most of the site is noise.
That is why Steve Bannon directly called out our site as being a shithole of noise in these extremely important warfare times. Sigh.
Anyway, there IS probably some discrepancy if Rudy is talking about it. We'll see.
Edit: There were 3.1 million requested mail-in ballots in Pennsylvania in total, and only 700k of them were by Republicans. This was reported in the news as early as October 18th/19th. The tweet we are talking about is literal fake news, as expected. Here is the source with the real numbers: https://thedonald.win/p/11QS32RxxL/x/c/4DpKmFDPVpx
Yes and no. Nothing nonsensical about what Rudy said at all. Where does the Governor of PA get the extra 1.2 million mail-in-ballots from mere days before the election, when 1.8 million requested them and eventually 2.6 million showed up apparently and cast it? Just enough for Biden to sweep the election into his hands.
Where does the Governor of PA get the extra 1.2 million mail-in-ballots from mere days before the election, when 1.8 million requested them and eventually 2.6 million showed up apparently and cast it?
That is literal fake news. Just like the fucking fake news tweet that this discussion thread is about.
It was reported back in OCTOBER that there were over 3 million requested ballots in Pennsylvania.
This is why I hate the fucking fake news on TD.win. There is so much bullshit noise on this site that it drowns out the real election fraud news. These are not the right times to be memeing and spreading fake news.
Nope. Not at all. Rudy Giuliani clarified the 1.8 Million ballots were sent during the Primaries in August and 1.4 million apparently casting their vote. He further went on to elaborate how the hell 2.5 million (now 2.6 million) got to cast their vote less than 2-3 months later for the Presidential election.
There is further no reason to delete the page containing the 1.4 million cast on the PA Website, unless they got something to hide, with Giuliani having the proof.
Thank the mods indeed with the clarification under it: "The 1,126,940 is essentially people who didn't participate in the primary, but still voted democrat"
Hate to kill the party, but this is bad news. Rudy got it wrong.
The 1.82 million number is from the primaries, not the general. The general was around 3 million, which was widely reported and is ostensibly accurate data from the PA SOS.
No, it means that Rudy took his numbers from two different elections. He is comparing ballots requested during the primary to ballots received during the general.
Yes, Rudy even says so in his opening statement. 1.824 million were sent during the Primaries, 1.4 million were counted. Where does the 2.58 million come from within the space of just 2-3 months? How do all these +1.2 million extra ballots end up in Biden's favor enough to bridge the 700.000 gap?
Yes, this ^^^ Rudy is explaining that statistically this makes no sense from what we have seen in prior elections. This wasn't a mix-up of numbers, but shows an anomaly outside the standard deviation.
Statistically not making sense similarly to the 110% voter turnout in some Wisconsin counties and districts. XD
The deal is, had there been 2-2.2 million Ballots been sent for the Presidential Election, that would have been believable vs the 1.8 million during the Primaries. However, realizing how good Trump was doing, the corrupt PA Government thought by fabricating ballots they would be able to bridge the gap.
If that's really what he said, then this is even worse. It's not just a mistake, it's outright stupidity. The extra ballots came from people who don't give a shit about the primary but want to vote in the general, which is axiomatic across every election everywhere through our history. Primary turnout of even 30% is very high, general is in the 60+% range. Going from 1.4 million to 2.5 million is pretty much exactly what you would expect.
Rudy is a fucking disaster. He can't be getting shit like this wrong and still hope to be taken seriously. Along side the the media painting him as a crackpot (sweat thing, Borat BS), he really has to be sharp as a knife on the legal front. There must be hundreds of hungry, competent lawyers out there. Why does Trump campaign go with him?
No, that is not what you expect. Bearing in mind the PA Website said 1.8 million Ballots were sent for the Primaries (likely to all people on their voter rolls), and then, not making sense why sending out +3 Million ballots to be sent out for the President.
Also, the 1.4 vs 1.8 and 2.6 vs 3 million turnout does not make statistically sense as well.
They’re playing some sort of game here. What is it? I know the media’s role is to keep the general public misinformed but discrepancies like this leave it all subject to legit challenges. They cheated, then that wasn’t enough cheating so they super cheated and made it obvious and they did it in several states. People should legit hang for some of this. Seems awfully risky. So what’s the angle? They’re not gonna go “well shoot, we tried”.
They made a coordinated plan to cheat, which involved a LOT of players (including all the media with a star role for Fox News), and they went with it come high hell.
People in the Twitter thread are asking for the source and I don't see anything yet. Anyone here happen to know where we can find that? Always key when shutting up leftists and doomers.
Yep! And again, I don't see that many folks voting for Briben unless there are that many gross pedos out there, they had to of brought in a bunch during early voting too, cause they knew folks wouldn't vote for the old fart pedo freak!
Shit. This is bad. If Rudy's team didn't even vet this number to check which election it's from, what the hell else did they fuck up? How much more of their ironclad evidence is actually a fat pile of mistake?
I'm not wondering what explains the difference between primaries and general. Anyone with two brain cells knows that general elections see twice the turnout that primaries do.
Which is why the numbers of ballots requested is so much lower.
I've been on this since the election almost 24/7 and I can assure you this is the only leftie-headline-worthy fuckup of the whole hearing. Every other mistake I spotted was insignificant.
Not trying to shit on anyone or anything, and maybe that's not official, and maybe the chain-of-custody thing blows it up, but it looks like there was already at least 2.6 ballots going out.
The premise of this thread is that only 1.8M were requested and 2.6M were returned
I'm saying, at least as of mid-October, they were reporting that they'd mailed out 2.6M at least
Newspaper = unofficial, however, there's at least some basis for the fact that 2.6M ballots went out. I'm not picking this hill to die on, there's plenty others
I understand, only reference we got. Apparently according to the livestream that it was confirmed that 1.8M was sent out, not exactly confident in that number yet until we see more action. But people could of requested ballots but didn't end up voting or went in-person to vote instead so that 2.6M votes, which would be almost 100% was returned, seems slightly odd but not that much.
So if it's 70% on average than that would be around 700k+ votes outstanding. So there's definitely 500-700k votes that can be discarded just from unofficial numbers you presented.
How is that old dated? Because, where does the 1.2 million extra ballots between the primary and the presidential one come from? Especially, when there is just 1 month difference.
That would put Biden mail in votes closer to what Trump got 867,657 vs 594,645. Which makes more sense. It also means that Trump clobbered Biden which makes sense since right before the election Biden said he was going to destroy Penns economy by removing fracking and coal.
They couldn't cheat regularly to steal a win. They had to do a massive mail-in ballot of 2 million to overcome the Trump surge. It's like having a license to print money then entrusting a collaboration of union goons,BLM,and Antifa to act responsibly with no oversight or even monitoring by any law enforcement agencies. On top of that, the lame stream media provided cover for the entire fraud every step of the way.
This is nuts. At this point even if (which he didn't) Biden won it doesn't matter. Voter fraud is a felony offense in most states. And Biden and anyone involved should be going to jail. I am pretty sure at this point pretty sure he is disqualified from being president.
Of course we did. It was never in doubt and we all knew that the democrats and left would commit fraud and treason. Trump is president and is going to continue being president for at least 4 more years.
They didn't have any choice. They had to get those votes somehow and with the mail ins so hard to verify they can just deny deny deny. Best part is they received 600k ( i think thats the number I heard) more ballots than they sent out. That's clearly not even possible.
I think it'll be pretty hard to deny the fact that a million more votes came in than went out TBF should be pretty easy to prove there is a major issue.
Especially since who ever reports the amount sent out isn't complicit in the fraud otherwise they wouldn't have reported such. Easy Street
Edit.
Oh well this one says 1.1mill but you know 600k is way more than a margin of error so what does it matter
Edit 2.
Mod just said numbers aren't right, what a cocktease. Not the mod lol just in general.
People who post incorrect information are causing way more harm to the case, I coulda spread that shit around and made us look dumb. Annoying
"sent out 1823148 absentee or mail-in ballots. You received back 1.4 (mill) approximately. However in the count for president, you counted 2.5 million.
I don't know what accounts for that 700,000 difference between the number of ballots you sent out and the number of ballots that ended up in the count.
That number 2589242 was on your government website until yesterday."
FTIR those ballots to find the fakes, read the printer machine ID code, find who the printer was sold to and subpoena that hard drive and security camera tapes.
Most copy machines store everything that is scanned on the harddrive, I'll note that if you're thinking about selling a xerox copy machine or something, sensitive info could still be on it
Ofc we won popular, frankly my take is, we won it all, and tbe only way the left could even begin dreaming of coping was to commit fraud on such a massive and obvious scale that even a blind person could see it from a mile away!
I don't believe this is accurate. I have read reports that well over 2 million ballots were requested. I totally agree that the dems are up to shenanigans but I don't think these claims are accurate.
Yeah they said the reported number they sent out was a million something.. but they counted 2 something million!!!!! ... Yup, no evidence of fraud whatsoever!!!
From other replies, AP says about 2.6 million were requested. In addition to being recieved and returned via mail, mail-in ballots in PA could also be obtained in-person and returned in-person or through drop boxes. Is it possible that various sources have garbled the definition of mail-in between those categories?
Good god. Hopefully, there is another reason for using this number and he didn't clarify why. That is my hope. Perhaps they keep changing the website? I find it hard to believe he could make this big of a mistake.
This is not true. There were 2.629 million absentee ballots returned in PA. However, the results as stated are OVERWHELMINGLY improbable, to the point where it's worth evaluating fraud. Mail-in ballots are where the fraud originated. Even with Biden receiving 99% of the Democrat mail-in vote, 10% of the Republican mail-in vote and 80% of the Independent/3rd-party vote, he still would haven't garnered the reported vote! Republican ballots were almost certainly rejected/thrown out/miscounted; Democrat ballots were infused with at least 100,000 fakes/illegitimate ballots if not more.
All that paper used, where are the enviro-weenies? You would think those watermelons (green on outside, commie red inside) would be all over that, but nah. Muh trees! gO pApErLeSs! Hypocrites.
This appears to be incorrect. The 1.8 number is from the primaries.
Spez: as for Rudy, I’m hearing he clarified what he meant and his 1.8 was referencing mailed out ballots. Will dig in later, please comment any more info below.
This is were we win, it’s the boring fundamental stuff that is easily provable that Trump gets his next 4 years on! While I want the hammer to drop and helicopter rides to start, that sensational stuff is harder to prove and takes a lot of time in the courts.
this.
proving dominion is still a goal but showing that the ballots don't follow the simple law called 1+1=2 then it doesn't require the same shitshow. The sooner we flip, the sooner we can get on with getting over covid.
Agreed. As a super skeptic, dominion is SUS as fuck!
Dominion has proven to basically be Hunter Biden on crack (erm... I guess Hunter Biden on even more crack? or crack and meth?)... giving even more than 10% to the big guy
When you have company execs leaving the country, offices getting cleaned out, paperwork being shredded, other materials being destroyed, failure to show up to a state legislative hearing, employees deleting their LinkedIn accounts en masse, and their US HQ being mostly devoid of anyone for a week or longer...
...yeah, Dominion is awfully suspect.
They prolly also vanished because some people I'm sure have figured them for easy targets of elimination.
Good point.
Don't want loose lips sending the upper echelon to jail.
Useful Idiots.
2+2=5, bigot!!?!!11!1
no 2+2=22 bigotophobe
lol "bigotophobe"
lol, they call us bigot and something phobic so I just combined both should have put an ist in there too.
Sounds like someone with a phobia of bigots.
Only when you have the enthusiasm of the workers.
Look, even Biden himself said that 3+3=5.. so.. you can easily get to those numbers then. (specially with billionfourhundredmillion.. ya know.. 1/30th!)
Come on, math!
I keep saying this. We have a team constitutional election and team criminal MOABs on all deep staters, post Trump win. It’s a case that could drag out several years, at least. But we need to win on the less sexy, easily proven fraud toget us enough discounted votes to remain in power first
dominion is what Ms. Powell is working on.
Oh you and your colonial math...
Bingo!!
Yes thank you! No more fucking LARPS! No secret server bullshit. No QSF mArKeD bALlOtS! Just plain old boring MATH! Racist old mathematics at the rescue of white supremacy once again!
Edit: Does anyone have a source for the image showing how many mail in ballots were sent out? Speaking of skepticism let's make sure this post is true.
Giulliani said it in the open forum today.
Do you have a link
thank you
Source is for the primary election, not the general: https://data.pa.gov/Government-Efficiency-Citizen-Engagement/2020-Primary-Election-Mail-Ballot-Requests-Departm/853w-ecfz
This is why you shouldn't share stuff before verifying it, and you definitely shouldn't testify in a hearing without checking it
PA GRANNY JUST SOLVED THE DOWNBALLOT ANOMALY https://thedonald.win/p/11QS32Tbut/
That's a bingo. Get the election result dealt with in the courts, schedule helicopter flights with deeper criminal investigations.
Yes, secure our wins, then dismantle and nuke the usurpers.
The left went all in on fraud to buy time.
They know what kind of evil they are and would do ANYTHING for us not to find out.
Taking a loss with MASSIVE PROVABLE FRAUD is better than whatever it is they are hiding!
It's probably the pedo shit. But probably so much worse. 😞
Duh.....
GEOTUS won in a landslide. 400+ electoral college and 10-20 mil popular vote
but but but MSM said Biden won
Sure he did...since when was the Media/fake news credible?
I don't understand...? They called it!
oh no that sucks
i wonder how many people don't get this lol
Oh fuck did they? Pack it up boys, we lost, gg no re.
This was a Reagan style landslide
I'll be honest I really feel like Trump broke Raygun's record. Thank God Trump got as many votes as he did...made this Demoncrat bullshit exceptionally easy to catch and prove. BOOYAH MFers!
Yes.
An 1,126,000 votes? No doubt they went for Biden... even if only half went, that's at least a 550,000 blowout over Biden.
easily 30-40M difference.
i.e. Biden might have gotten 40 million votes to Trump's 75 million+.
They knew that they'd have to count 2 votes to every one of Trump's in order to try to "win."
That they can reasonably prove, because it's hard to prove what Dominion stole in all the states, as they're only focusing on flipping the swing states.
There's a reason they kicked out observers.
Yep. This ties in all theories.
-Dominion allows it by being defunct software that wont flag repeats and just pushes ballots through
-Tons of "people" "voting" from the same address
-Extremely large numbers for Biden with just a few for Trump, repeatedly
-No observers allowed
-Affidavits confirming this actually happened
-Matt Braynard's analysis reaffirms this possibility
Also don't forget the guy who wanted to pass a bill requiring individual serial numbers on each mail-in ballot for verification purposes, and he was told it would be vetoed immediately if it was submitted.
Like others have said here, while nationwide this was a highly coordinated scheme with high ranking state D officials shutting down vote counting in multiple states at the same time, there were still low-IQ dipshits just stuffing Biden ballots into machines and other nefarious shit.
Many districts called anything not on election day, as absentee ballot.
This obviously says mailed, but who knows what semantics are in their head.
Yeah, I'm skeptical too. Even the bozos on the left wouldn't make it THAT obvious
they were desperate and disorganized because the algorithm failed. I think there was some random, uncoordinated efforts in addition to DNC coordination. Like an Agatha Christie book where 5 people killed the victim.
It was Big Mike in the Bathroom with the Package.
This is why I read every comment. Thanks for the lolz fren
right they were panicked frantic and freaking out from too muck crack and meth.
They saw what happened early in the night in Florida and panicked.
It was multifaceted fraud effort. They hoped the algorithm alone would carry the day but in states they owned they had to manufacture votes. They didn't give a fuck about getting caught because Dems don't go to jail anyway.
Rudy just presented this in the hearing 20 minutes ago
Thanks, I'll take a look
If it was the same thing I heard during the hearing, a senator asked if any of the lawsuits were in regards to the 700k delta.
The response from Rudy and team was that there lawsuits but were not going to go into the details of them at this time.
What is suspiciously absent from this chart is early vote numbers. If they categorized early votes as mail-in votes, this might not be what we think it is.
on election night, trump was ahead by 690k. their choices were 1) give up and let him have the state or 2) fabricate 500k+ ballots
it seems they chose the latter
Reasons why the were forced into cheating so stupidly:
Unprecedented landslide for Trump.
Probably some polling misinformation fed to Democrat spies so they didn't see the landslide coming.
Trump's late campaign rhetoric and Barr's delays of prosecution had them terrified of a second term. In their minds, they had to win at any cost.
Not original source, sorry, but apparently it's being openly discussed in the hearing right now https://thedonald.win/p/11QS31KwY5/x/c/4DpKm5rD8WC
The official website https://www.electionreturns.pa.gov/ just goes to a FAQ page instead of the results where I assume this data was gotten from.
The number I’m seeing from the PA Secretary of State’s office is 3,088,123 requested and 2,629,183 returned.
[Edit:] https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/PA.html
Where do the numbers on the above table come from?
The Twitter dude's asshole, obviously. His tweet is the only thing that comes up if you Google the number he claimed. This site never verifies claims before accepting them. Haven't you noticed that by now?
I should go tweet something about 3 million Russian votes for Biden and it will be stickied here in 5 minutes, and then Gateway Pundit, Sidney, Lin and Rudy will start talking about it. The bar for evidence here is non-existent and anyone who asks for a source is called a doomer. Very tired of it. The front page is full of memes and disinfo. Meanwhile, any serious, bad news is downvoted to hell. Full-on blinders and tinfoil hat mode. It's crazy here. Reminds me so much of the left in 2016.
I used to upvote and post memes but now I refuse to upvote the noise. I hope as much as all of you that fraud is proven, but this forum is a mess... From previous posts and comment vote ratios I saw that 75% are retarded memelords and 25% of visitors are intelligent and actually trying to help analyze real data and laws to help Trump win... In other words; most of the site is noise.
That is why Steve Bannon directly called out our site as being a shithole of noise in these extremely important warfare times. Sigh.
Anyway, there IS probably some discrepancy if Rudy is talking about it. We'll see.
Edit: There were 3.1 million requested mail-in ballots in Pennsylvania in total, and only 700k of them were by Republicans. This was reported in the news as early as October 18th/19th. The tweet we are talking about is literal fake news, as expected. Here is the source with the real numbers: https://thedonald.win/p/11QS32RxxL/x/c/4DpKmFDPVpx
Edit 2: Moderator stepped in to clarify that the tweet is fake news. Thanks mods! https://thedonald.win/p/11QS32RxxL/x/c/4DpKmFB8inQ
Yes and no. Nothing nonsensical about what Rudy said at all. Where does the Governor of PA get the extra 1.2 million mail-in-ballots from mere days before the election, when 1.8 million requested them and eventually 2.6 million showed up apparently and cast it? Just enough for Biden to sweep the election into his hands.
That is literal fake news. Just like the fucking fake news tweet that this discussion thread is about.
It was reported back in OCTOBER that there were over 3 million requested ballots in Pennsylvania.
Sources:
October 19th: Over 3 million ballots requested so far, 700k being Republican: https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/politics/decision-2020/pennsylvania-mail-in-ballot-requests-hit-2-8-million-including-700000-gop-voters/2567670/
Breakdown by party, 3.1 million mail-in ballots requested in total in PA: https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/PA.html
This is why I hate the fucking fake news on TD.win. There is so much bullshit noise on this site that it drowns out the real election fraud news. These are not the right times to be memeing and spreading fake news.
Edit: Moderator stepped in to clarify that the tweet is fake news. Thanks mods! https://thedonald.win/p/11QS32RxxL/x/c/4DpKmFB8inQ
If rudy keeps doing this were fucked
Nope. Not at all. Rudy Giuliani clarified the 1.8 Million ballots were sent during the Primaries in August and 1.4 million apparently casting their vote. He further went on to elaborate how the hell 2.5 million (now 2.6 million) got to cast their vote less than 2-3 months later for the Presidential election.
There is further no reason to delete the page containing the 1.4 million cast on the PA Website, unless they got something to hide, with Giuliani having the proof.
Thank the mods indeed with the clarification under it: "The 1,126,940 is essentially people who didn't participate in the primary, but still voted democrat"
From the primary election in June: https://data.pa.gov/Government-Efficiency-Citizen-Engagement/2020-Primary-Election-Mail-Ballot-Requests-Departm/853w-ecfz
Thank you.
AP News in Oct reported in PA 2.6M ballots were requested.
https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-pennsylvania-ecc866c37c2aaa0dfda05bceb2fba83d
Here is the official website showing counts: https://www.electionreturns.pa.gov/
Hate to kill the party, but this is bad news. Rudy got it wrong.
The 1.82 million number is from the primaries, not the general. The general was around 3 million, which was widely reported and is ostensibly accurate data from the PA SOS.
Primaries: https://data.pa.gov/Government-Efficiency-Citizen-Engagement/2020-Primary-Election-Mail-Ballot-Requests-Departm/853w-ecfz
He's the prosecutor, not the analyst. His analysts all missed this somehow and told him to go with it.
He may have been referring to 1.8M dems requested mail in ballots vs.1M repubs.
https://web.archive.org/web/20201022015952/https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/politics/decision-2020/pennsylvania-mail-in-ballot-requests-hit-2-8-million-including-700000-gop-voters/2567670/
Wha?
How is it wrong, when AP called it 2.6M?
Does this mean PA just fabricated 1.2 million extra ballots to give the victory to Biden, just mere days before the election if needed?
https://www.votespa.com/Voting-in-PA/Pages/Pennsylvania-Voter-Election-Security-Information.aspx
https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-pennsylvania-ecc866c37c2aaa0dfda05bceb2fba83d
No, it means that Rudy took his numbers from two different elections. He is comparing ballots requested during the primary to ballots received during the general.
Of course the numbers aren't going to make sense.
Yes, Rudy even says so in his opening statement. 1.824 million were sent during the Primaries, 1.4 million were counted. Where does the 2.58 million come from within the space of just 2-3 months? How do all these +1.2 million extra ballots end up in Biden's favor enough to bridge the 700.000 gap?
That is what Giuliani is explaining.
Yes, this ^^^ Rudy is explaining that statistically this makes no sense from what we have seen in prior elections. This wasn't a mix-up of numbers, but shows an anomaly outside the standard deviation.
Statistically not making sense similarly to the 110% voter turnout in some Wisconsin counties and districts. XD
The deal is, had there been 2-2.2 million Ballots been sent for the Presidential Election, that would have been believable vs the 1.8 million during the Primaries. However, realizing how good Trump was doing, the corrupt PA Government thought by fabricating ballots they would be able to bridge the gap.
If that's really what he said, then this is even worse. It's not just a mistake, it's outright stupidity. The extra ballots came from people who don't give a shit about the primary but want to vote in the general, which is axiomatic across every election everywhere through our history. Primary turnout of even 30% is very high, general is in the 60+% range. Going from 1.4 million to 2.5 million is pretty much exactly what you would expect.
Rudy is a fucking disaster. He can't be getting shit like this wrong and still hope to be taken seriously. Along side the the media painting him as a crackpot (sweat thing, Borat BS), he really has to be sharp as a knife on the legal front. There must be hundreds of hungry, competent lawyers out there. Why does Trump campaign go with him?
No, that is not what you expect. Bearing in mind the PA Website said 1.8 million Ballots were sent for the Primaries (likely to all people on their voter rolls), and then, not making sense why sending out +3 Million ballots to be sent out for the President.
Also, the 1.4 vs 1.8 and 2.6 vs 3 million turnout does not make statistically sense as well.
This is your mistaken assumption. They don't send out ballots to everyone on the rolls. You have to request them.
Yes, it makes perfect sense that twice as many people would request a ballot in the general.
This deserves hyper focus. They also removed this info from PA website yesterday. I wonder why?
https://thedonald.win/p/11QS2veghH/fraud-hours-after-we-find-pa-is-/ !!!!
They’re playing some sort of game here. What is it? I know the media’s role is to keep the general public misinformed but discrepancies like this leave it all subject to legit challenges. They cheated, then that wasn’t enough cheating so they super cheated and made it obvious and they did it in several states. People should legit hang for some of this. Seems awfully risky. So what’s the angle? They’re not gonna go “well shoot, we tried”.
They made a coordinated plan to cheat, which involved a LOT of players (including all the media with a star role for Fox News), and they went with it come high hell.
I bet it comes down to a mega breakdown in communication, especially once they saw the landslide they were up against.
Not all printing, but also double-scanning & double-counting of Cheater Joe's ballots 8-10 times, according to eye-witness.
Can't wait to hear the explanation for this one!
Pulls out the well worn race card.
Are you a racist trying to disenfranchise the minority vote? Because that's what you are doing!
Those vote counters are good boys. They dindu nuffin. RAYCISS!
they were all about finish their GED and start college.
Damn that race card is used more than Kamala's snatch
Not sarcasm, AOC already said that.
Since blacks counted as 3/5 of a person (vote) in the 1800's we must count their votes x35 to correct for SyStEmIc rAcIsM
People in the Twitter thread are asking for the source and I don't see anything yet. Anyone here happen to know where we can find that? Always key when shutting up leftists and doomers.
Ha! Tell those retards it was “anonymous sources”
Found an article from a PA newspaper that said over 2.6 million mail in ballots were requested. No idea how many they sent out though.
The number I’m seeing from the PA Secretary of State’s office is 3,088,123 requested and 2,629,183 returned.
https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/PA.html
Not sure why you’re saying that. The link there has two columns: one for Requested Ballots and one for Returned Ballots.
(And in any case, the original OP is precisely about the number of mailed out ballots anyways.)
Welp, that at least explains where Giuliani got the number.
Yep! And again, I don't see that many folks voting for Briben unless there are that many gross pedos out there, they had to of brought in a bunch during early voting too, cause they knew folks wouldn't vote for the old fart pedo freak!
Is there any kind of security built into the ballots like $100 bill has? Or can anyone with a decent printer actually make millions of these?
There is supposed to be a direct line of custody for each ballot. Democrats just happened to destroy all logs of the chain of custody
No security features, they were gonna be serialized and barcoded, but governor wolf threatened to veto any legislation that added that feature.
that commie dictator is such a treasonoous scumbag.
every printer makes an invisible mark on the paper. it can be traced.
The 1.8M is actually what they sent out for the PRIMARY ELECTIONS. Someone confused the numbers.
This is where the 1.8M number comes from: https://data.pa.gov/Government-Efficiency-Citizen-Engagement/2020-Primary-Election-Mail-Ballot-Requests-Departm/853w-ecfz
Shit. This is bad. If Rudy's team didn't even vet this number to check which election it's from, what the hell else did they fuck up? How much more of their ironclad evidence is actually a fat pile of mistake?
Nope, because you are wondering what explains the difference between the Primaries and Presidential? It's friggin huge. Just adding extras.
I'm not wondering what explains the difference between primaries and general. Anyone with two brain cells knows that general elections see twice the turnout that primaries do.
Which is why the numbers of ballots requested is so much lower.
I've been on this since the election almost 24/7 and I can assure you this is the only leftie-headline-worthy fuckup of the whole hearing. Every other mistake I spotted was insignificant.
There's an article from Oct 13 indicating that PA sent out 2.6M ballots already
https://www.post-gazette.com/local/2020/10/13/Pennsylvania-mail-in-ballot-requests-2-6-million-registered-voters-PA-2020/stories/202010130153
Not trying to shit on anyone or anything, and maybe that's not official, and maybe the chain-of-custody thing blows it up, but it looks like there was already at least 2.6 ballots going out.
It says 2.6M ballots requested. Doesn't say anything about how many of those were counted.
The premise of this thread is that only 1.8M were requested and 2.6M were returned
I'm saying, at least as of mid-October, they were reporting that they'd mailed out 2.6M at least
Newspaper = unofficial, however, there's at least some basis for the fact that 2.6M ballots went out. I'm not picking this hill to die on, there's plenty others
I understand, only reference we got. Apparently according to the livestream that it was confirmed that 1.8M was sent out, not exactly confident in that number yet until we see more action. But people could of requested ballots but didn't end up voting or went in-person to vote instead so that 2.6M votes, which would be almost 100% was returned, seems slightly odd but not that much.
I think that's the biggest smoking gun here. 100% return rate for ballots? Pretty sure i've heard like 70% is average or something
So if it's 70% on average than that would be around 700k+ votes outstanding. So there's definitely 500-700k votes that can be discarded just from unofficial numbers you presented.
How is that old dated? Because, where does the 1.2 million extra ballots between the primary and the presidential one come from? Especially, when there is just 1 month difference.
And how many were actually sent? That is the argument Rudy makes. You should try to listen!
Also, if he has the proof, when saying the PA Website deleted that page.
Somebody posted 1.8 is from the primaries: https://data.pa.gov/Government-Efficiency-Citizen-Engagement/2020-Primary-Election-Mail-Ballot-Requests-Departm/853w-ecfz
Hope rudy did nit nake this mistake
Nice. Doesn't state how many mail-in ballots were requested.
That would put Biden mail in votes closer to what Trump got 867,657 vs 594,645. Which makes more sense. It also means that Trump clobbered Biden which makes sense since right before the election Biden said he was going to destroy Penns economy by removing fracking and coal.
Is someone fucking up the case behind the scenes? Who gave this number to Rudy? There's a traitor in the ranks.
Right - I don't understand it. I don't know why that Phil Waldron guy didn't clarify when Rudy went over the numbers with him.
Good point. Yet, HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THE 1.2 MILLION BALLOT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SEPTEMBER/OCTOBER AND ALL GOING TO BIDEN?
They couldn't cheat regularly to steal a win. They had to do a massive mail-in ballot of 2 million to overcome the Trump surge. It's like having a license to print money then entrusting a collaboration of union goons,BLM,and Antifa to act responsibly with no oversight or even monitoring by any law enforcement agencies. On top of that, the lame stream media provided cover for the entire fraud every step of the way.
Someone needs to look who made large purchases of Ink around that time.
This is nuts. At this point even if (which he didn't) Biden won it doesn't matter. Voter fraud is a felony offense in most states. And Biden and anyone involved should be going to jail. I am pretty sure at this point pretty sure he is disqualified from being president.
The funniest part of this comedy/tragedy is how hard they had to try to win.
I wonder if tney were cackling with glee or shitting bricks.
They were cackling right up until they realized they were posting 130% numbers. That's when bricks started to drop.
Hi u/chipitin,
Thanks for posting this. Do you mind if I include it here in my megathread?
Ground Zero 2020: PA Fuckery Megathread
I had been thinking that ten thousand people need to go to prison. Now I'm thinking fifty thousand is more like it.
fleets of helicopters running 24/7
I've been telling my friends we will find out that Trump won the popular vote too, they think I'm crazy. Can't wait! 😂
They’re bookies, they can do whatever they want and the clients can bring litigation over the fine print in the contract.
Is this for real? Is there any legitimate explanation for where an extra million mail-in ballots came from?
2020 election PA turnout official: ~75% - obviously frauded With removed 1m of fraud votes it is about 65%
65% is very reallistic 75% Is it joke?
2016 election PA turnout official: 60%
THEY DOUBLE COUNTED VOTES AND THEY FUCKING KNOW IT
Of course we did. It was never in doubt and we all knew that the democrats and left would commit fraud and treason. Trump is president and is going to continue being president for at least 4 more years.
This straight up seems like a mistake a toddler trying to steal an election would make
They didn't have any choice. They had to get those votes somehow and with the mail ins so hard to verify they can just deny deny deny. Best part is they received 600k ( i think thats the number I heard) more ballots than they sent out. That's clearly not even possible.
I think it'll be pretty hard to deny the fact that a million more votes came in than went out TBF should be pretty easy to prove there is a major issue.
Especially since who ever reports the amount sent out isn't complicit in the fraud otherwise they wouldn't have reported such. Easy Street
Edit.
Oh well this one says 1.1mill but you know 600k is way more than a margin of error so what does it matter
Edit 2.
Mod just said numbers aren't right, what a cocktease. Not the mod lol just in general.
People who post incorrect information are causing way more harm to the case, I coulda spread that shit around and made us look dumb. Annoying
Doot doot!
I love how they're still denying there's voter fraud lmfao
They were over 2.6 requested in October, so this is obviously incorrect.
https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2020/10/13/more-than-2-6-million-mail-in-ballots-requested-in-pennsylvania-so-far/
dunno if this helps
https://youtu.be/DSDZkXxFVEU?t=2695
"sent out 1823148 absentee or mail-in ballots. You received back 1.4 (mill) approximately. However in the count for president, you counted 2.5 million.
I don't know what accounts for that 700,000 difference between the number of ballots you sent out and the number of ballots that ended up in the count.
That number 2589242 was on your government website until yesterday."
EDIT: also,
https://youtu.be/DSDZkXxFVEU?t=9636
"And then you have this gap that I don't understand between the mail-in ballots you sent out, 1.8 million, and the number you counted, 2.5 million."
FTIR those ballots to find the fakes, read the printer machine ID code, find who the printer was sold to and subpoena that hard drive and security camera tapes.
Most copy machines store everything that is scanned on the harddrive, I'll note that if you're thinking about selling a xerox copy machine or something, sensitive info could still be on it
Ofc we won popular, frankly my take is, we won it all, and tbe only way the left could even begin dreaming of coping was to commit fraud on such a massive and obvious scale that even a blind person could see it from a mile away!
I don't believe this is accurate. I have read reports that well over 2 million ballots were requested. I totally agree that the dems are up to shenanigans but I don't think these claims are accurate.
It was 1 report. Average return rate on ballots is 70%.
Thank you.
Yeah they said the reported number they sent out was a million something.. but they counted 2 something million!!!!! ... Yup, no evidence of fraud whatsoever!!!
And MSM says there is no fraud! Idiots!
Crossing the T's and dotting I's...
From other replies, AP says about 2.6 million were requested. In addition to being recieved and returned via mail, mail-in ballots in PA could also be obtained in-person and returned in-person or through drop boxes. Is it possible that various sources have garbled the definition of mail-in between those categories?
I hope so, because Rudy should have a correct number
He does not. The number 1823148 is from the primary election.
Good god. Hopefully, there is another reason for using this number and he didn't clarify why. That is my hope. Perhaps they keep changing the website? I find it hard to believe he could make this big of a mistake.
And yet, how does it explain the 1.2 million extra ballots one month later during the Presidential and all of it going to Biden?
Ooh, AP said? Our globalist overlords know that number how I wonder...
And the local Philadelphia paper, and the local Pittsburgh paper.
edit see stickied post. Rudy either mis-stated or viewers misunderstood the data
Probably 76-78 million to 65 million, at best.
This is not true. There were 2.629 million absentee ballots returned in PA. However, the results as stated are OVERWHELMINGLY improbable, to the point where it's worth evaluating fraud. Mail-in ballots are where the fraud originated. Even with Biden receiving 99% of the Democrat mail-in vote, 10% of the Republican mail-in vote and 80% of the Independent/3rd-party vote, he still would haven't garnered the reported vote! Republican ballots were almost certainly rejected/thrown out/miscounted; Democrat ballots were infused with at least 100,000 fakes/illegitimate ballots if not more.
How is the left explaining this? They always have an explanation for anything. How about this one?
All that paper used, where are the enviro-weenies? You would think those watermelons (green on outside, commie red inside) would be all over that, but nah. Muh trees! gO pApErLeSs! Hypocrites.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/politics/decision-2020/pennsylvania-mail-in-ballot-requests-hit-2-8-million-including-700000-gop-voters/2567670/%3famp
Not sure where he got that data but a local news report said 1.8 mil dems requested ballots. I didnt check the pa website but just googled it.