I don't get it. We burn hunters ass for using drugs. Yet people here advocate for legal drugs. Am I missing the principle at hand? What is the best moral direction? Our president has taken a stand against drugs and alcohol, why is ours different? IS this a pro drug use forum?
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I am in the camp of thought that thinks having drugs illegal makes the gov bigger. Who gives a shit if someone else wants to ruin their life. It's their choice, not the governments 🤷🏼♀️
Yeah but that's not the Trump teams train of thought and that's my point
One does simply not have to hold every single belief of their party.
That's what the Trump train is tho spool ya kinda do
My kids don't need them because they're not on other drugs, and they eat healthy
When they're not feeling well, they go to the doctor
Are you legit in like a liberal city? You literally have the same mentality as liberals yet you're here, I don't get it
They aren't allowed to eat shit that gives headaches, we live a natural life
Meat and potatoes
Holy shit boys. This commie is going full retard. Never go full retard. Fuck you ass hole. Eat shit and die cum stain.
You're just another cheerleader who wants people to look because he's edgy
We are the maga movement and we don't represent you fucking dope fiends
Ummm no? Not when you're body is acclimated to the outdoors. When you set inside and smoke dope all day, maybe
Lololol idk
We are all pretty fucking happy without drugs loser what a fuckboi
Says the maga imposter from portland
Maybe the biscuits, fuckers are dry
But I know you'll be choking on that steamroller all day and eating Doritos like a libby savage would
Lololololol no drugs=abuse
Sounds like a liberal to me
are your kids in pain? Why?
Kids aren't supposed to be in pain jackass, when they are they go to doctor? Where do yours go? The dispensary lololololololol
Bro I promise you, they aren't normal
My god you are so brainwashed dude
You should go read the bible
Its mostly just pro weed ppl here, no idea what youre going off about
Pro drug use? I've never seen anyone advocating for the legal use of crack/cocaine...
I hereby advocate for the legal use of cocaine. lol
Why? Because I'm a free man with the right to pursue happiness. And the drug war is a failure that creates crime and violence.
The gov't should not be trying to prevent people from doing things that may harm themselves, but not others.
Cocaine used to be in Coca-Cola. Now you have to go to your doctor to get a prescription if you want to get high. The people have been cucked by big Pharma.
No it’s a pro-freedom forum, which means different people have different opinions.
Sure but it's a pro Trump forum and a forum for all things likewise
I don’t see this at all.
Keep looking
“Everywhere you look, you see what you are looking for”
Huh?
Numerous people here posting pro drug legalization posts and downvoting the fuck out of anyone who disagrees.
Your putting people in prison for hurting who? Themselves?
Why personalize this towards me, I'm simply asking a question to "supporters" of our president who share his views. The only thing I have in this is that I agree with our president
He's also against drinking alcohol. Should we give Prohibition another run?
I respect his views - and I also respect freedom.
Well yeah, I think so personally but I don't advocate for it because I know how many people it would affect
There are things that are legal that are bad for people. I'd rather people have the choice to make bad decisions.
Otherwise, we end up with things like mayors deciding how many ounces of soda you can buy at one time.
(I'm against soda that contains High Fructose Corn Syrup, but the most I would advocate for is education that teaches people about nutrition and drugs etc., so they can at least make informed choices.)
Is it not an informed position to be anti drug? Or is it because it's illegal you think people aren't informed on the drugs?
I'm just asking because I'm pretty sure that's why they were made illegal, because we were actually well informed on the substances and their effects on society
And your surprised? God botherer
Bahahahahah no I'm not you fucking mental midget bahahahabahah
Your don’t proving to metal genus yourself, retard
Bahahahah whoa don't hurt yourself there you linguistic lackey might wanna re-read your thoughts there because I can see you're stuck in a glass case of emotions
I’m gunna guess that your a catholic priest and you have a dirty secret you don’t want getting out. All you god botherers are the same. It’s all the no sex and no fun. Makes you do strange things to kids. Hmmmm. How close am I?
Lololololol
I'm just a journeyman machinist in the Midwest I've got three kids a wife a house and 12 acres of hunting land
I'm sorry you don't have anything but illegal weed and Doritos bahahahah
Reeeeeee. Fuck off kiddy fiddler
Like meth?
Agreed.
But they're illegal tho
Lol, hence the debate...
Riiiiggghhhttt.You paying taxes?You have a drivers license?Do you have a concealed carry permit?You are being told what you can and can't do from the time you get out of bed until the time you get back in bed.
Doesn't mean they have the right to tell you what you can and can't do. Government has been abusing its power forever. That doesn't make it okay.
It's like our fake money. Just because we use it, doesn't mean it was okay to hand over the creation of our currency to a semi-private organization that prints paper fiat dollars when the constitution says that Congress shall mint coin and determine the value thereof.
Gov't does shit wrong. The people do nothing. Wrong shit becomes the norm. Then people say, "but the government does this and says that" as if it makes wrong into right.
Can't argue with you there.They don't have the right, but they have the power.
I don't want my taxes going towards arresting and locking people up for minor drug offenses. Any action against drugs is best directed at smugglers and serious illegal manufacturing, not adults peacefully using something at home once in awhile or growing a few marijuana plants for personal use.
I don't care much about Hunter smoking crack, though it adds to the evidence that he's a loser and the hypocrisy of Biden and Harris being cool with locking up other users is gross. I care a lot more about about his corruption, money laundering, and foreign conflicts of interest.
WHO defines a drug? WHO mandates controlled substances? WHO manufactures drugs? BIG PHARMA The only people that actually profit off of drugs are big pharma and prisons. Essentially the government gets a free work force and in turns sells goods, for a profit, for a crime that defies common law and harms nobody. At the same time, big pharma gets to push for insurance mandates and become the drug dealers of new synthetic crap that destroys your liver. Some little known facts -- The deadliest drug around is ALCOHOL -- The most addictive drug on the planet is ALCOHOL -- The only drug that will kill you, if you quit "cold-turkey", is ALCOHOL. Why is it legal? Because TPTB want you addicted and numb. Why would Trump supporters condone drug use? Because they hate the agenda of TPTB and see them for assault on individuality and freedom that they are. In short, eat a bag of dicks you commie troll. We support Trump because we hate the alternative. The war on drugs, the war on the nuclear family, the war on the middle class, the war on manufacturing of American good, the war on guns ... Every last one of these wars that TPTB have attacked us with is exactly what Trump stands against and precisely why we love him.
I'm anti drug anti alcohol and anti liberal policy
I'm pretty sure you've forgot about the cartels killing entire generations over drugs but that's ok
You're just dirty drug users I didn't have high expectations
Why are cartels at war over drugs? Because TPTB went to war over drugs. They chose that, not We, the People. If all drugs were legal and sold out something similar to an ABC store most of the crime that revolves around drug use would disappear. This has been proven in the few areas that have adopted this policy. The resources of our military would be freed up to actually protect the coast of America as opposed to being used to combat something that (rather you like it or not) is someone's choice.
Are there still illegal guns on the the streets even though we have stores for them? Of course there are.
Same with prostitution
There is nothing to gain from legalizing drug use or prostitution that benefits us as a society
You're propagating myths as facts. What do restrictions on guns do? They keep guns unaffordable and out of the hands of law-abiding citizens. What are the dangers of prostitution? Rapes? Assaults? Disease? All of those can be avoided by typical safeties afforded to anyone in a legal, regulated business. Personally, I think everyone should be issued a handgun at the age of 25 and be required to keep and maintain said firearm. They should be like any other commodity. Let's face it, a steak knife can be just as deadly as a firearm in the right hands but we don't regulate them. How much blackmail and bribery has the illegalization of prostitution (the oldest profession on the planet) caused? That's the part you don't seem to get. These laws you are ranting about actually create more crime. Live and let live. It is none of my business what another human being decides to do with there body, whether that be abused it with drugs or sex, and I can't control what another person can or will do with an inanimate object. It's that simple.
Lol these aren't myths bro, your being facetious
These things aren't legal amd they never will be because they offer nothing to society. Prostitution isn't legal because it is tied directly to human trafficking, and always will be, legal or illegal, it is inherent to prostitution.
Same with drugs, low level use may offer no I'll effects other than to the user, but repeated use hurts families, careers and large scale traffickers are typically bad people. Weed may be legal in Mexico but the cartels aren't disappearing
You need to do some research instead of just repeating talking points. You're wrong, dead wrong. It may be time to question why you believe the way you do.
You've offered nothing except liberal talking points so I'm not sure why you're here. It may be time for you to join the liberals seeing as you have liberal ideologies at heart
You don't get to tell me my opinions are wrong, because they're opinions. Are you just another conversation stifling liberal, because it sounds like it
Well, freedom is freedom. It should be allowed by law, but it's up to every individual to keep themselves and their children from it and be responsible. Legal war with drugs is a sham and ruin lives for minor mistakes (you won't tell me that a blunt or two is worth few years of prison)?
It only strengthens the prison system and it's labor and weakens the budget by wasting money and resources on minor cases rather than hunting for real threats. And budget could benefit from legalised, normalized used through taxation.
Allow through law, restrict through morals and reason.
I'm opposed to over-criminalization.
Once, I got arrested for someone else's "weed" pipe.
Turned out later that it was a tobacco pipe, but I still spent the night in jail.
Fucking legalize it. The consequences of prohibition are worse than most common drugs.
I usually just see some Pedes talking about having some drinks or smoking a bowl, not legalizing black tar herion like Portland. Thats just me though.
Neither will kill you so why differentiate? That's why they're illegal
Alcohol can definitely kill you.
And I don't drink either bro
I think from a criminality standpoint they should be reclassified but still illegal. I think felonies should be reserved for drug crimes in commission of other crimes but only after reoffence.
Double standards aren't a monopoly on one side.
Non violent crimes shouldn’t be imprisioned. Victimless crimes should be the same. It like they want us to get used to being imprisioned
Yeah but that is a totally different platitude we could discuss
What constitutes victimless? The crack may not kill you but getting it to you might have killed someone you weren't even aware of
If the McDonalds truck kills someone in an accident, is that my fault for liking McDonald’s?
Not comparable because trucks nor McDonald's is illegal
This is going around in circles. Eh um. That is why drug addiction need help not prison. Change the laws.
They don't need help tho. They prove that with an 80% reuse rate.
They don't want help, they just want to use drugs and not go to jail, which is why it's not going to change. It would be different if they added value to society at any point before during or after their use, but the majority do not add any value, even to themselves and that's statistical fact not virtuous platitudes
I know someone in history who said the individual is meaningless and only the nation has value.
More virtuous platitudes
Congratulations you be achieved world peace
And? What do you call value? That can be different for everyone as we are individuals.
I'm pretty sure walking around homeless with a needle in your arm shitting in the street is negative value, and drug free tax paying society contributing is positive value in western society
Actually I'm very sure of that
How is the addicts fault?
Good choices are the centerpiece of a responsible and independent society
Hunter is a loser. Crack-smokers (sorry, folks) are losers. But... Why do I have to pay to chase them, jail them, try them, and feed them for a generation or two? They were already losing!
Because you're gonna pay the same on the outside. They're not independent people
Once they actually do something to one of us, by all means. Otherwise it's just more Mask-Karening
Give people a hand up not a hand out. Most drug addicts need help not a criminal record
Of course and we pay for that as well through our taxes but you're not addressing that 80% return to using, because they're just not held accountable for their choices
So you would rather they become harden criminals and not just some loser
From a financial standpoint the obligation is identical. The point is you create a dependent person is either scenario
Because freedom.
Hunter was smoking crack. I'm smoking a doobie.
Lol well it's still illegal soooooooo
I win
Trump was an 80s billionaire playboy. You think he didn’t do drugs?
I would bet he didn't.
Pussy is his drug. And gold. Lots of gold
This is on my top ten list of things I don't give a shit about. What's next, favorite aluminum alloy or species of hardwood?
The amended God Given Right direction is simply freezed peaches. Why should I have to worry about agreeing or disagreeing with you?
My opinion is they should just stop worrying about it because they can't stop it. Like marijuana, it has a cousin called mini that's legal across the country. If they made that illegal, there's a bunch of other similar compounds.
On top of that, meth is now a prescription. Sounds mostly like a big pharma and tobacco problem more than anything.
Can't stop drunk drivers either might as well stop prosecuting them right?
You don't have to agree, but you aren't maga, you're just another drug user who can't cope with his own life
Cope harder
Thanks for the reply!
First, drunk driving and talking about it are like apples and oranges.
Second, if you know I do drugs, which ones? You seem to know all about me so that should be easy to answer.
Finally, I believe drug laws are bunk the same way speeding laws are bunk the same way rule of law is bunk. However, I am not an anarchist, rather a believer in framed God Given Rights. Law (compare to legislation) was not formalized until the US Code was voted in, in the 1870s. Also, I am not fully opposed to the concept of a Republic at least philosophically.
Still, I'm curious, how many new people do you meet a day, only to call them [insert drug here] heads to their face? None? What a laugh.
First drunk driving is no different than any other illegal activity
Second I dont care if you actually do them, you can be a centrist and argue leftist and I'll still call you a leftist
Finally if you don't abide by our laws, you go to jail, like the rest of the leftist
I don't meet people I would accuse of being drug users, mainly because I make better choices than that and don't put myself in situations that would require the context of a person's drug use, because I'm not a drug user
Maybe I'm referring to drugs that have an obvious system to take but are limited to professionals unnecessarily. I have family that could give themselves doses of a drug, however that drug can only be administered by a health professional because of the industry.
I believe the definition for liberal is for liberal government spending, not freedom. The definition for left is for more government control. So I'm arguing the government has no place in limiting one's ability to supplement like taking drugs from a right position. I only want the freedom, that's all. That's different than choosing to take it. An interesting example, RC Cola was nearly destroyed because of "the dangers of drugs" when they were leading the industry while they were using cyclamate as the sweetener. But because it's dangerous when you ingest an obcene amount of it, it's now banned.
You didn't know I would argue for drug rights at first. You wouldn't be able to call a doctor who believes in legal marijuana a pot head because you can tell they're an addict? This line makes no temporal sense - many drugs don't show effects so this argument makes no subjective nor objective sense in all cases. I also stay away from those I know that would cause some form of harm due to drugs. For those that refuse to divulge and are harmless, I guess I just don't know they do drugs. Unless you have a drug detection superpower? Maybe a well trained canine?
Drugs are drugs. Just because a doc prescribes them means nothing. Doctors are the reason for the opioid epidemic. I don't believe in using drugs in any form unless it's an antibiotic, probiotic, or a steroid with immune response support.
I don't even believe in aspirin
You're argument is not even an argument it's just a comparison to rc cola 😅😅😅😅😅. No drugs shouldn't be be legal because someone could have died on a rc cola lolol
Wtf
Your a fucken Mormon piece of shit. Fuck you and your god
Bahahah that's not very maga of you, you Australian piece of shit, just because you fucked your country up
We wont
Also you joined 7 days ago, and still have a handshake icon
You are more likely than not just another imposter
https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/76881/tragic-history-rc-cola
I understand your definition. It's similar to mine. We're mostly on the same page except the scope of freedom. I was just giving alternate scope examples because I felt I was miscommunicating. If you feel it's too far out of scope then sorry. So let me approach this from another way - banning drugs isn't another form of a slippery slope? Drugs don't abuse themselves.
Again, you aren't maga, you're an imposter bernout.
Is this faggot still here. Eat shit commie.
Bahahahah
You think theure gonna ban me for advocating for sobriety, just like our president?
Nah they know a dope loving shill like the rest of us, see you finally lost your handshake icon cocksmoker I mean dope smoker
God watches you masterbate. You dirty little boy who loves showing his pussy to his kids. Go fuck yourself. Shit cunt
How does it feel helping our president get elected yet knowing he will never support the things you want
Who's the fool here? Ya sure, (roll eyes) just vote for me one more time, promise I'll consider the legal drugs
What a fucking moron
I’m Aussie fuck head. I can’t vote in America. Only democrats and commies do shit like that.
"The inferior man argue about his rights, the superior man imposes duties upon himself"
Wagner Clemente Soto
(You're inferior)
May your god send you to hell , cumstain
What ever toss pot. So fucken full of yourself aren’t you. Cunts like you get shot in the back in the up cuming war
Hey I got one for you retard. Give me liberty or give me death
How do they say it down unda mate
Like this
Can I have some puddin dear queen
Bahahahahahah
Wow. Clap clap for the handicapped
How do you say. Hmmm. Joe Biden is your president
Bro you live in England's outhouse
You fuckers literally have to disable someone's plumbing for enough supplies to make a pipe pistol
But hell yeah at least you can make a single shotter to kill yourself while high
Bahahahahah
Lol handshake icon shill says what
If you thought a few downvotes would stop the message, you're definitely a shill
Bahahahah
You do realize you don't actually give me negative karma by doing that do you?!
You're not that dumb, right?
lol of course not, but all your comments get buried none the less
That's ummmm that's ahhhhh let's see, im pretty sure that uh oh yeah exactly how new content works you fucking Neanderthal
It's my thread......
Are you like, crayon eater slow, or like help with your juicy box slow?
Sad people
My body, my choice.
Care to elaborate
It’s self explanatory
Wellllllll the law does and they say it's illegal
You don't belong here, you belong in welfare line voting democrat
How is it going faggot. Still showing your kids your pussy.
I would never let them see your mom's nasty beaver, and btw only we only put possessive pronouns on her vagina when we're alone
Aaaw. You said your kids see lots of pussy. Pedophile alert
I can see why you're fascinated with my American kids
Theyre American
They're awesome
Theyre American
Not from Europe's dustbin (straya)
You can't reproduce wifout a loicense
You still can't reproduce because you have low t due to chronic drug use
And you rape them. Clap clap pedo
And there you have it. Thanks for confessing dipshit. Lol. Wanker
Oh wow matlock you really should ask for a raise
Who am I kidding you guys don't even have matlock, you got Paul fucking cronin
Bahahahahahahahabahah
Duck, there's fragile minded cucks that's going to cuss you out and call you commie.
yawn
io. This commies knows how to duck. “Adjust sights”. Righto , I. Good.
ok..........