Without going into excruciating legal detail, most of the meat of it is based on the 14th amendment and equal protection under the law. Of course. it describes how the voting systems and the software used, along with state officials, election day polling procedures, mail in ballots etc. deprived legal voters of there fundamental right to vote as a civil liberty because voting itself affects other civil rights.
What struck me was that this case seems to be very similar to the legal argument Rudy Giuliani is making in Pennsylvania. So, the next question is why not let Rudy file both suits or more importantly, why did the Trump Legal Team make such a big deal out of distancing itself from Sidney Powell if they were essentially filing the same complaint in two different states.
Part of the answer must be that this GA case is the most straight forward and best documented case of election fraud. If the court rules in favor, the other states legal cases should follow suit.
I also think the Trump legal team distanced itself from Sidney to avoid the perception that Flynn's pardon was connected to the case. But, I think we have to remain open to the possibility that Judge Sullivan was obviously completely compromised and corrupt. His actions were fully intended to keep Flynn quiet because he knows something serious about the foreign interference aspect of this election fraud. That pardon removes the gag order on Flynn and probably frees him up to work with Sidney on the foreign interference aspect of this and other cases.
They made it public for a reason. Any official statement from the Trump team, right now, is by definition, a big deal. I'm just saying they didn't do it just for fun.
and that's faith
believing in something without having definite proof is faith
He believes in Trump without full evidence, that's called having faith in your leader
Well there's only so much Rudy can do.
PA is a big case and I think he's working on MI too.
It makes sense for other states to be delegated to someone else to tackle.
agreed centipede . . .
Yes it makes sense now.
Sidney touches on the Chinese/Iranian involvement which opens up Trump's executive order of 2018.
Can't look too much like h's providing himself with a pretext for going all martial law/iInsurrection Act or anything.
I suppose if they can get a judge to recognize the validity of that claim, that would free Trump to move forward with implementing that EO. either in part or in full. In other words, he could send in Spec Ops to wrap some people up for a trip to the spa and squeeze them until they spill the beans on Hussein and Hillary.
She can't represent Trump & Flynn at the same time.. conflict of interest since Flynn was technically being prosecuted by Trumps Administration.
well stated Pede
Expert analysis!
The first three points of relief request to de-certify the GA election results, stop the transmission of the results to the electoral college and declare Trump the winner of the GA election.
relief items 4 through 14 seem to be looking toward future elections and future court cases. They seek further disclosure of evidence of collusion to commit election fraud and to place limits on how GA is able to conduct future elections (ei. not using these Dominion machines and their associated software).
Flynn can finally testify against dirty dick fag bag obozo. Flynn was the one person obozo was afraid of. Thank you God and Trump Happy Thanksgiving! Can't wait to rub this in my retarded family' members faces today Long live the USA
This is Sidney Powell's civil suit, to prove election fraud. She will be filing criminal suits incriminating several individuals in the future. The burden of proof in criminal suits is "beyond reasonable doubt" which is a lot higher than civil suits. So she's filing the civil suits first since they are easier to win.
I think you are right because part of the relief section was trying to get hold of the actual machines. Maybe that will help determine not only what was done but who did it, when an where. They also seem pretty interested in the video of the vote counting center. They must suspect some after hours hanky panky with the vote tally or with the machines themselves, possibly by Dominion employees.
Read this declaration: https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mied.350905/gov.uscourts.mied.350905.1.15.pdf
The final part Sec.21 is stating that whoever approved these machines was negligent because they could be accessed by hostile foreign actors. In other words, there is still room for plausible deniability on the part of US officials. Yes, foreign entities can be blamed though. I wonder if Flynn has some specific evidence that US officials colluded with Iran, Serbia or China.
Pretty compelling expert witness though.
This attacks [R] gov and [R] secretary of state (gov who, albeit hypocritically, donated to the Trump campaign before this happened. Trump campaign, for optics, might not want to be going after [R]'s, and rather leave that to Sydney And Lin
The 11th Circuit (Georgia jurisdiction) is a good place to start and try and set a precedence.
Totally forgot about the gag order!
I've just been assuming he's been working with and advising them the whole time.
Just between you, me and a post, I'm pretty sure he has been.
The one thing I've not seen mentioned much is the spillover or cascade effect taht the Dominion stuff in GA might have. Should they win this (part of the case), what are the implications for the other states that use the same hardware/software? Serious question for OP.
It'd be a helpful precedent
God Bless You Pede
gonna steal yer words
Sounds like Trump could be pulling off the greatest rope a dope in history. Better than Ali and better than the allies using General Patton as a D Day decoy.
I believe Powell's case may extend well beyond the time frame of when the electors need to convene. Its good to have a long ball play in our pocket to preserve (or in this case restore), election integrity.
Yes, if they are going to go through the trouble of correcting this election result, might as well do everything ti make sure it doesn't happen again. If they didn't, one thing you could count on is that Crooked Dems would try it all again, the very next chance they got. The other thing we know is that Dems couldn't win anything unless they cheat. A win here on future election procedures will all but finish the dems for the near future.
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Say there is a kraken. What is it exactly? It is a powerful and destructive monster with long reaching tentacles. These lawsuits seem more like an opportunity for the wrongdoers to come clean. The kraken could be a tracking/removal system like that Iranian general. Boop all gone.
just in regards to lawsuits filed, like these ones.
Is the evidence for each claim presented in the courts for judges to see, and make their decision? It's easy to make a whole lot of claims, but Sidney will back this up in court with the evidence? I'm just thinking what the defense will counter with.
also, what is your take on the spelling mistakes. Any reason for this? do you think it was so she could release this version to the public?
[edit] what's the deal with dems saying PA is already certified? if it is, it can be changed by the SCOTUS with this law suit, correct?
The lawyers must be presenting the evidence in the form of the affidavits attached to the filing a sworn affidavit is evidence. I don't know how the process works after that. I am not an expert but I think that a certified election result can be overturned, especially if fraud is proved. Certainly they are trying to get a large number of mail in votes disqualified because the changes to the electoral process was not uniformly applied throughout the state, the state electoral board unilaterally acted to change electoral procedure without it first going through the legislature. The number of votes in question would change the result in Trump's favor. I think the same applies to PA as well. One thing that stuck with me is that the legal standard for a civil case is "the preponderance of evidence" and not "beyond a reasonable doubt" like a criminal case. If that is true, you can be sure Sidney is going to move mountains to make sure that every single bit of evidence makes it into the hands of the judge.
Giuliani states their difference from Powell in one minute:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FouSiOUp038
Specifically, he says misconduct by state officials abridged the Constitutional rights of Trump.
They intend to file in all contested states separate from Powell.
Are you a lawyer? So is this a nothingburger?
Does the testimony provided by the military intelligence guy mean nothing to a judge?
Would you litigate this differently, given the evidence you see in the Kraken filing?
Not a lawyer and this obviously a somethingburger. I was just trying to put it in layman's terms (as I understand it) and provide a forum for discussion for people here that don't want to take the time to read through the whole thing. I like this sort of thing so I enjoyed reading it. No way would I suppose to suggest anything about how this should be litigated. Let's leave that to the professionals. I'm pretty sure that Sidney Powell has a bigger brain than I do. I hadn't read the affidavit from the military guy before it was recommended to me. I have been doing a bit of reading about Bush v Gore and how Equal protections was used to say that they State Supreme Court could not effectively legislate from the bench.
You should maybe take up law in school. Even property law. You seem to enjoy it lol
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