posted ago by Ford42
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Take the time to read it all yourself. I know it seems like a lot to ask, but do it anyway. When you talk about this with normie friends and family and they poo-poo the scale of the steal, ask them if they have read the lawsuit in it's entirety. Of course they haven't, but you have. You can speak with authority on the preponderance of evidence. Chide them even, if they are so sure that massive voter/election fraud didn't occur, why are they afraid to read it for themselves? Or are they just lazy? What if like you they are persuaded by the overwhelming evidence it presents? Do they fear what that would mean for their world view?
Take the time to read it all yourself. I know it seems like a lot to ask, but do it anyway. When you talk about this with normie friends and family and they poo-poo the scale of the steal, ask them if they have read the lawsuit in it's entirety. Of course they haven't, but you have. You can speak with authority on the preponderance of evidence.
Chide them even, if they are so sure that massive voter/election fraud didn't occur, why are they afraid to read it for themselves? Or are they just lazy? What if like you they are persuaded by the overwhelming evidence it presents? Do they fear what that would mean for their world view?
Concentrate on a few very easy to explain examples with enough fraudulent votes to easily switch a state. Have backup you can bring up on your phone in seconds.
Normies will not want to hear it. They have been trained carefully by the media to regard your ideas as crazy theories that are probably racist.
Keep it simple. Be able to back it up quickly.
Pose it as a 'what if' question rather than demanding people face facts.
Unfortunately, it may be as Yuri said in 1984, "even when presented absolute truths, they will deny them." https://youtu.be/IQPsKvG6WMI
Concentrate your fire on the nearest truth.
It's worse. Many will resort to violence.
They may. They may also deny to save face and then research on their own. Just do your duty and dispense redpills. The Truth will out.
And then everyone in the room started clapping.
Fake news...clapping triggers ptsd...it was jazz hands
OMG, all I can think is of the 2019 Democratic Socialist of America meeting and all their ridiculous behavior. https://youtu.be/_NdE9CjkvTY
Thank you for reminding me of this pure comedic gold 😂😂😂
They had a vote lol? These are the people that are going to take over our country? All we have to do is clap and the war is over?
This is fantastic.
Right! They want to control stuff, but cant even form a proper line.
You would be doing all of us who cannot read it a giant service by summarizing those points and giving reference to the page numbers so we can use it.
I have a medical condition that requires 14 fucking hours of sleep, and I have 3 children under the age of 5. No way I can read it in the next week but I would love to reference it and do my part in redpilling.
Article 189 from the suit “Further, there exists clear evidence of 20,311 absentee or early voters in Georgia that voted while registered as having moved out of state. Specifically, these persons were showing on the National Change of Address Database (NCOA) as having moved, or as having filed subsequent voter registration in another state also as evidence that they moved and even potentially voted in another state. The 20,311 votes by persons documented as having moved exceeds the margin by which Donald Trump lost the election by 7,641 votes”
Rudy's common sense has the whole package - including the cigar.
Whenever a libtard cites the Mueller report as evidence that Trump colluded with Russia, you instantly know they are lying about having read it.
"And is blatancy a word."
Yes, it is.
Lol you think they like Biden? They all know what happened, TDS just knows no bounds.
King Joe: https://thedonald.win/p/GvKKJEZT/joe-biden-is-the-boonana-king/c/
I fell asleep last night somewhere around page 37... after the kids go down for their morning nap I'm gonna finish it up!
EVERYONE read it. Learn three indisputable facts from it (ie the counting was stopped because of a leaky pipe amd video records show that there was no maintenance crew dispatched to fix a leaky pipe anywhere in the building). Challenge your friends and family to do the same!
Learn the facts! Collect them all!
The Real Kraken
Filed Sworn Affidavit by Sidney
https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mied.350905/gov.uscourts.mied.350905.1.15.pdf
I don’t know what to make of this. Having the connections are one thing, but was anyone caught actually changing the votes?
Why else would Iran and China and Obama and Acorn be tied into the servers? Look at Page 8 for Obama using Scorecard
I agree that the connections are an issue. I would prefer to see X number of votes changed at this time to justify the remedy. Maybe on the whole they can get there.
That is not how it works, connecting to the server shouldn't be happening, sending the data shouldn't be happening, access to your election shouldn't be possible by outside actors, period.
You want to read the logs of what they changed as if the rest is normal.
Ok when a murder happens and someone had access to the victim that shouldn't have and you can see the result and forensically determine when the victim was killed and there is a match to the spray pattern etc
Did you see a video of the murder or did the evidence prove that this person was a killer?
Not only have we got the various injections of votes that are impossible to do in that amount of time physically by the machines, not only do we know they pushed people out before they happened, not only do we have the FACT that Usb sticks are missing we don't even have the envelopes or the ballots anymore
What do you think happens in court? That people get convicted because there was screen recording of someone placing votes from one folder to another?
Why is everyone so condescending on this site? I ask a question to play devils advocate and everyone acts like I’m fucking stupid Obviously they shouldn’t be connected to the internet or be able to be updated on election night with thumb drives. Just because you can prove I have the keys to the bank and I shouldn’t have them, does that mean I robbed it ? Especially if you can’t prove that money actually went missing , or if so, how much Obviously the more evidence we have the better.
Doomers get deported
If you don't understand what physically impossible to be counted by the amount of machines on location means then we can't help you with your advocacy for the devil
Advocacy for the Devil? Fuck off. Deport me then asshole
Of course it did happen: votes were counted that were physically impossible to be counted by the machines and the USB sticks are missing
Access from outside and missing USB sticks
If they want to clear their name they need to provide the sticks and the matching ballots
Do you think getting rid of the evidence is the only thing needed to avoid jail time?
This isn't even a criminal case, the evidence doesn't need to meet beyond reasonable doubt standard
600k votes and 3200 for Trump is impossible and they used the sticks to do it and they were keeping track using the server in Frankfurt
If I just told you I won an election and things don't match up, you can't just claim you won, we have to check the ballots to confirm the count. When money is missing from the counter you count it as well, you don't just hand over your salary, even though it is easy to make money go missing
You are trying to make the case that counting faster than possible more ballots than possible requires further evidence to be fraud
I read through it as well as the 104 page a s 75 page court filings. Jesus. Trying to pick it apart as a judge may do. They can and may win with this but I want it as airtight as possible
Fair enough. I will sleep well
Having the machines connected to the internet is illegal in the first place. It doesn't even matter in the context of the lawsuit what actually happened with the votes, the fact is that these machines need to be run offline, along with other processes that were breached.
Also, go to rudy's common sense and watch his latest video.
That complements the filing quite nicely.
Here's some further reading👇
https://thedonald.win/p/11QS7a3QAQ/voter-fraud-nov-25th-6-months-of/
Did someone say, this should be archived?
https://archive.is/UQRQK
Make it personal. Point out their vote could have been changed to the other side or thrown out.
Great suggestion! I read it as well!
I am not gonna toss my pearls before a pig. I know I can't change their minds. I don't really want to, I am focusing just doing what I need to do on this side of the line. I know they are idiots.. when you wrestle with a pig in the mud, you both get dirty, but pig likes it.
This. There is no point in arguing with dumbass authoritarian leftists. That's what psychiatrists are for.
Yup. I was willing to engage when it was a matter of maybe getting Trump a vote, but now that the election is I'm retired from beating my head against the wall.
It really is a must read
I'm printing out copies, one for my fridge, and others to pass out if needed.
This is the beat advice. Those not used to reading legal docs, there may be confusing areas. But the legal form of writing IRAC will resolve any confusion if you keep reading.
Issue Rule Application Conclusion
So they will go through it all, look up legal words you don’t understand and this will really help in lots of ways in life!!
Great advice OP!
A word of caution to all the pedes here: having tried this yesterday (unsuccessfully), one must do this very very gently. If someone else brings up the impossibility of widespread voter fraud, perhaps start by having them explain to you why they think this is true, and ask targeted questions that bring their points into doubt. I didn’t do this and went in guns blazing with every claim i made ready to go on my phone, and happily offered to show every bit of backup and evidence right on the spot. They will refuse to listen, and one argument they’ll use is that they don’t have time to look into these things and that they trust the experts more than they trust you. Of course, when prodded about who exactly those experts were, the response was CNN, and even after debunking via raw video three claims by CNN in a row, it won’t be enough to shake their faith in fake news. You’ll be, as OP says, gaslit. Redpilling is a JOURNEY.
I agree. Well worth the read. The legislature of Georgia outlined EXACTLY how elections should work. At every step of the way, the Governor, GA Sec of State, and GA State Elections Board discarded that legislative outline and decided, "nah fuck that, let's just do it this way."
its large font, not that long to read through
Excellent advice. I read/skim read the whole thing this morning.
This works on other things. So when they yell HE WAS MURDERED BY COPS FOR SLEEPING IN HIS CAR IN A WENDY'S PARKING LOT it's simple to ask one question. "Did you watch the entire body cam footage? All 43 minutes?" and they say no but, one says Well I did. Let me tell you what actually happened so you can understand that media has lied to you and then I suggest you watch it yourself.
Education might be our only hope.
It won't help with arguments. Libs don't give a shit about reality, but they will vehemently argue what they believe to be true (i.e. - what they are told to believe by whatever shit news source they use). I had a very short discussion with a lib about the transcripts of the phone calls to Ukraine when peach mints was the big lib talk of the day. I asked him if he actually read the transcripts himself. OF COURSE he did! So I started asking him about specific points and he said that things were redacted and there were ellipses indicating that sections were missing. I told him he can get the full transcript, but the truth is that he never read any transcripts and was full of shit. At that point, the discussion always devolves into straw men and ad hominem.
That was just a few pages. Imagine some lib reading or even skimming through 104 pages of reality. It's a good idea to know what's there, but I doubt it will help you set any records straight.
This is the best way to shut up a marxist, too.
I recommend yall go read das kapital then follow it up with Hayek & Friedman.
The conversation goes like this:
"Have you even read anything by marx?" "No. Have you?" "Yes. And rebuttals by others" "Oh."
Thankfully everyone I know is 100% Trump supporters but I will read it just incase someone online or someone randomly speaks to me about it I'll have all the facts ready!!
We need some previously blue pilled / now red pilled folks to lead the charge on this as well. If you came across a key bit of news or evidence that was instrumental in changing your mind, you should share that here with friends and family as much as possible. And share it here so it'll help meet people where they are, so to speak.
Just print all 104 pages and slap the non-believers in the face with it. Let em see it close up.
Thank you for posting this. I made it three-quarters through last night and have been cooking all morning. I will finishit before dinner, though
Should be a sticky!
The truth has nothing to fear from investigation.
When I was mormon we were conditioned to avoid "anti mormon doctrine" for this same reason. I was nailing girls and drinking from time to time and I had sold myself on the idea I was going to hell but it was still true.
Bullshit. I read Mormonthink.com and the CES Letter and went through the stages of grief. I was angry that so many of the stories I heard as a kid were fiction. It ripped a gaping hole in me I had to learn to fill for myself but I couldn't possibly go back into the illusion because of what I'd seen.
That's what they're holding on to. Most know something is up but they cling to it like an ideology that isn't serving them at all and evidence is just "anti mormon doctrine" to them showing them hard evidence what really happened from primary source references.
I read it. I also believe the kraken is still pending
The problem is they don’t care, they’re happy that the dems cheated to get rid of bad orange bad man. They don’t care about the truth.
Nope, line are drawn. I'm not interested in being friends with traitors and idiots.
Can you link me to the lawsuit please so I can read it? I would greatly appreciate it.
https://defendingtherepublic.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/COMPLAINT-CJ-PEARSON-V.-KEMP-11.25.2020.pdf
Your cause is Just-- but I have given up on trying to change the Communist Americans minds on ANYTHING! Example; Some Antifa sort got a forum I visit. He claimed that ALL the statues that BLM ruined did not exist. He said they were all taken down, and none damaged. Ok, I made a sane retort, He wanted Proof, OK, I gave him proof. He then IGNORED all my points, and went off 'on six black horses'into the night'. I feel like the famous Don. Q----{I cannot spell old Spanish names] and I am tilting at some red windmill.
IF I wanted to convert them to 'our side' I would use the method I found useful in a small nation called Viet Nam. To wit-- 'grab them by the balls and their hearts and minds will follow"!