Exactly which is why you did such a great job with migrants after ww2 and we british didnt. We took people in to rebuild and let them have their own little countries here, now look at it. We've had issues for decades.
What made America so great was how you said sure you can come over here but you'll learn to be an American. We didnt do that.
exactly i had when ive heard people say to be bro you only come here to make money . I told them to give me their citizenship right now and get the fuck out! they can go back to there socialist countrys or developing 3rd world countries, i am a Armenian but lets not forget why i get to live the GOOD LIFE AND HAVE NICE THINGS and do nice things thats because of the American Soil! lets never forget that . yea america has a lot of shitty of things like any other place but the GOOD OUT WEIGHS THE SHITYNESS EVERYTIME
Yeah, this is a good point. There are many Armenian immigrants where I live, and there is no cultural divide. They work hard and are visible and upstanding parts of the community. This makes them American in many respects. I can walk into the liquor store and have a conversation with the Armenian owner and we can agree or disagree but at the end of the day, there is no cultural divide - only community and participation.
A weakness of American tolerance is that we allow cultures and communities to fester that become deeply and permanently antagonistic to our culture. The ones that tend to succeed assimilate culturally in reasonable ways, while still honoring and preserving their heritage and culture. It's just a fact and I think it's plainly observable in the US, Europe, and elsewhere.
that american soil is good shyte.. bought and paid for by the blood of people who wouldn't except anything less than freedom. What will our descendants say about us, if we let this election be stolen and the "great reset" move forward. I will lay it all out there, so that i will not be remembered with those that so willingly gave up their freedom and liberty and along with it all future generations.
Not to be annoying but I think it's just semantics at this point. Most of us would agree that cultural differences don't matter insofar as they don't conflict with American values, fundamentally being the Constitution, free market capitalism, and just a general "leave me alone and I'll leave you alone" attitude. No one gives a shit about religious and holiday traditions. There are "cultural" differences (coughIslamcough) that conflict with those values and those people need to GTFO though.
The welfare system is a massive issue.
Edit: I'll also add that yeah I'd agree that immigration should be off the table for at least some time, given the current shit show we're in. I think that's a given.
Wrong... that European socialist bs, multiculturalism, promotes the separation of races, and it then bludgeons to death anyone who doesn’t get inline and fulfill their roles in the racist stereotype they are to be judged. It’s disgusting and against the very ideals for which America was founded upon.
It's not even Multi-Culturalism per se that is the issue. The U.S.A. has always been multicultural. Whether it was a mix of Puritans, Protestants, and Catholics. To Irish-Americans, Italian Americans, African Americans, Hispanic Americans (yes, there were many old school Hispanic Americans even prior to the influx of illegals.
None of this created the problems that exist today, because while many had their own heritage and cultures, they also were Americans first. They identifies with the common values that America represented. Liberty, Self Determination, Individualsim, Pioneer Spirit, Pride in the Country etc.
So even though many had their old traditions and cultures that they perpetuated, they also shared their common ideals with the rest of America, so their was more uniting everyone, than keeping us apart.
The new globalist multiculturalism wants to do away with that, and make people citizens of the world, as opposed to citizens of a nation. This is destructive as their is no longer anything that unifies a nations citizens
Multiculturalism is self promoted racism, and it gives all races but whites a fee pass to be racist af and judge the world behind ignorant stereotypes for each race. It destroys one’s ability to be an individual. It’s strips you of all individuality and forces you to conform to their racist stereotypes. It even makes the races eat themselves, as, any dissenters are mock and attacked until they act accordingly. You see this in the Black community most of all. Black Conservatives anyone?
People forget that, the melting pot is what vastly voted for communism, white conservatives which are increasingly the minority are the only thing keeping these 50 states together. These are generalizations, yes, I understand.
Exactly, when you pour 100 gallons of freezing water into a melting pot, it cools the whole thing down and is no longer a melting pot. That is why immigration, until recently, has been historically limited, to insure that the "melting pot" would continue to function
Well the second part of your statement I completely agree with. I'm for legal immigration with a solid expectation, not a "pathway," to integration.
I want to point out that the melting part of the phrase melting pot isn't about melting ice. It's more like melting different metals into a new metal. To me that specifically means a culture based on the best of Western values first and foremost, and the best of other cultures get to come along for the blend. The thing is, the "best of other cultures" from my point of view tend to already be shared values anyway. Hard work ethic, willingness to achieve, desire to help others one-on-one instead of desire to prop up a socialist mentality.
“Melting pot“ allows for individuality and a shared sense of national identity
Multiculturalism strips individuality and forces everyone to conform to preconceived racial stereotypes (racism) all while flipping the bird to a shared national identity or pride.
The word "values" flew right over your head. Of course the theology of Judaism is not Identical to Christianity (otherwise it wouldn't be seperate religions). The U.S. is also not a theocratic country and was purposely designed by the founders not to be.
That has nothing to do with with the values and morality of the Judeo Christian religions which are very similiar
The "melting pot" is what's literally tearing our country apart.
You're wrong. It's multiculturalism killing our country. The idea that you can come to America and not become an American is killing our country.
Exactly which is why you did such a great job with migrants after ww2 and we british didnt. We took people in to rebuild and let them have their own little countries here, now look at it. We've had issues for decades.
What made America so great was how you said sure you can come over here but you'll learn to be an American. We didnt do that.
Idk there are alot of people where I live that fly mexican flags. It's pretty dumb.
You get exceptions but im talking about the past several decades
exactly i had when ive heard people say to be bro you only come here to make money . I told them to give me their citizenship right now and get the fuck out! they can go back to there socialist countrys or developing 3rd world countries, i am a Armenian but lets not forget why i get to live the GOOD LIFE AND HAVE NICE THINGS and do nice things thats because of the American Soil! lets never forget that . yea america has a lot of shitty of things like any other place but the GOOD OUT WEIGHS THE SHITYNESS EVERYTIME
Yeah, this is a good point. There are many Armenian immigrants where I live, and there is no cultural divide. They work hard and are visible and upstanding parts of the community. This makes them American in many respects. I can walk into the liquor store and have a conversation with the Armenian owner and we can agree or disagree but at the end of the day, there is no cultural divide - only community and participation.
A weakness of American tolerance is that we allow cultures and communities to fester that become deeply and permanently antagonistic to our culture. The ones that tend to succeed assimilate culturally in reasonable ways, while still honoring and preserving their heritage and culture. It's just a fact and I think it's plainly observable in the US, Europe, and elsewhere.
that american soil is good shyte.. bought and paid for by the blood of people who wouldn't except anything less than freedom. What will our descendants say about us, if we let this election be stolen and the "great reset" move forward. I will lay it all out there, so that i will not be remembered with those that so willingly gave up their freedom and liberty and along with it all future generations.
Not to be annoying but I think it's just semantics at this point. Most of us would agree that cultural differences don't matter insofar as they don't conflict with American values, fundamentally being the Constitution, free market capitalism, and just a general "leave me alone and I'll leave you alone" attitude. No one gives a shit about religious and holiday traditions. There are "cultural" differences (coughIslamcough) that conflict with those values and those people need to GTFO though.
The welfare system is a massive issue.
Edit: I'll also add that yeah I'd agree that immigration should be off the table for at least some time, given the current shit show we're in. I think that's a given.
Agreed.
Wrong... that European socialist bs, multiculturalism, promotes the separation of races, and it then bludgeons to death anyone who doesn’t get inline and fulfill their roles in the racist stereotype they are to be judged. It’s disgusting and against the very ideals for which America was founded upon.
No.
Multi-ethnic society? At least theoretically possible.
Multi-cultural society? It's an oxymoron. Society is downstream from culture. If you have a multi-cultural society, you don't have a society at all.
It's not even Multi-Culturalism per se that is the issue. The U.S.A. has always been multicultural. Whether it was a mix of Puritans, Protestants, and Catholics. To Irish-Americans, Italian Americans, African Americans, Hispanic Americans (yes, there were many old school Hispanic Americans even prior to the influx of illegals.
None of this created the problems that exist today, because while many had their own heritage and cultures, they also were Americans first. They identifies with the common values that America represented. Liberty, Self Determination, Individualsim, Pioneer Spirit, Pride in the Country etc.
So even though many had their old traditions and cultures that they perpetuated, they also shared their common ideals with the rest of America, so their was more uniting everyone, than keeping us apart.
The new globalist multiculturalism wants to do away with that, and make people citizens of the world, as opposed to citizens of a nation. This is destructive as their is no longer anything that unifies a nations citizens
that right, fuck those commie kennedys..and fat-face ted was a kgb agent. 1965 immigration act (unless they are from europe)
kissinger probably CCP agent
Multiculturalism is self promoted racism, and it gives all races but whites a fee pass to be racist af and judge the world behind ignorant stereotypes for each race. It destroys one’s ability to be an individual. It’s strips you of all individuality and forces you to conform to their racist stereotypes. It even makes the races eat themselves, as, any dissenters are mock and attacked until they act accordingly. You see this in the Black community most of all. Black Conservatives anyone?
People forget that, the melting pot is what vastly voted for communism, white conservatives which are increasingly the minority are the only thing keeping these 50 states together. These are generalizations, yes, I understand.
The "melting pot" is the opposite of "diversity is our strength." The melting pot is about building a culture of shared values with the same history.
Exactly, when you pour 100 gallons of freezing water into a melting pot, it cools the whole thing down and is no longer a melting pot. That is why immigration, until recently, has been historically limited, to insure that the "melting pot" would continue to function
Well the second part of your statement I completely agree with. I'm for legal immigration with a solid expectation, not a "pathway," to integration.
I want to point out that the melting part of the phrase melting pot isn't about melting ice. It's more like melting different metals into a new metal. To me that specifically means a culture based on the best of Western values first and foremost, and the best of other cultures get to come along for the blend. The thing is, the "best of other cultures" from my point of view tend to already be shared values anyway. Hard work ethic, willingness to achieve, desire to help others one-on-one instead of desire to prop up a socialist mentality.
I think we're basically in agreement.
“Melting pot“ allows for individuality and a shared sense of national identity Multiculturalism strips individuality and forces everyone to conform to preconceived racial stereotypes (racism) all while flipping the bird to a shared national identity or pride.
Yes I agree completely.
THIS + a few extra updoots
Yep, the slow stray away from Judeo-Christian values is why we are where we are
J̶u̶d̶e̶o̶ Christian values.
Orthodox Jews dont believe in hell. So i doubt thats true aside from some crazies
The word "values" flew right over your head. Of course the theology of Judaism is not Identical to Christianity (otherwise it wouldn't be seperate religions). The U.S. is also not a theocratic country and was purposely designed by the founders not to be.
That has nothing to do with with the values and morality of the Judeo Christian religions which are very similiar
You guys do know that both religions share the old testament, where the 10 commandments are.
Judeo-Christian is an oxymoron
In terms of religion yes (as is a Protestant Catholic), in terms of values, no
It's not a melting pot anymore. Communists turned off the heat. Its just a salad bowl.