I laughed when I saw the dems want to give "free farmland" to blacks in the cities. Sounds like an excuse to scatter ten million black urbanites to rural 1 person per square mile areas in the middle of nowhere, then resettle the ghettoes with hipsters.
IF- and that's a big IF- Biden gets into office, we're gonna see a hell of a ride to hell.
Wanna know something weird? Ilitch's son, Atanas, was briefly an actor and singer. He starred in Slumber Party Massacre II and even had a musical number that he wrote and sang for the movie.
Those who own are at an advantage to those who rent. They either sell the property at a loss, or they declare bankruptcy. Either way, they're just as free to move as the renters.
It is being comfortable where you are, even if where you are objectively sucks, that is the problem, not mobility.
Detroit is the main city. With a city that large, there are sure to be other decently sized cities and suburbs bordering it, and a few more rural areas as well. Counties are pretty large. So is Detroit, but it's not COUNTY sized.
Like, I don't live far from Pittsburgh PA. It's in Allegheny county, and the city has a lot of people, but outside that there is still forests and stuff where people live in the same county, as well as smaller cities and towns.
Of course, when you live in a county with a massive city, your politics are pretty much dictated by that city if you live in a more rural area. You're pretty much just along for the ride.
I dont think any of them are MN. I think that got straightened out. Someone mistook MI and MN. They were listing Detroit Lakes, Frazee, and others that were all in lakes country where a lot of MSP millionaires have lake homes. I assume some shenanigans there also with double voting.
The original version of the affidavit had the stats for Minnesota precincts, so they corrected it and replaced all the stats with actual Michigan precincts. What's funny is, even the stats from Minnesota were just as bad as Michigan's, showing that it's fraud-riddled there as well.
Can’t recall who it is but some comedians got a bit about the bloke that had to come up with the abbreviations for states, it’s a good watch for a laugh.
Alabama - AL simple
Arkansas - AR easy, no problem
Alaska - Fuck!
A postscript: has Mr. Ramsland inadvertently stumbled across evidence of voter fraud in Minnesota? I seriously doubt it. The venues in question are all in red Greater Minnesota, not in the blue urban areas where voter fraud is common.
Suddenly we're back in the old ARPANET days and it takes observers being forced out to compromise the machines. Also he forgot the red 2016 Anterim county. Just a poison pill from the powerlineblog article
Someone said affidavit from wrong state was included. More than a typo, technically. But any of these errors may have been intentional to get the message out by baiting people into criticizing the errors.
The 781% turnout figure is misleading. That is percentage turnout when normalized to 80%. Not sure why they chose to do that.
The part about more ballots counted than counting capacity is huge. I wish they included a breakdown of the counties, machine types, and number of machines. Maybe that will be revealed later?
Edit: from further analysis downthread, this figure appears to be completely inaccurate:
80-100+% is bad, 650% is absolutely comical levels of fraud. Comical because all you can do is laugh to keep yourself from going full judge dredd on every single poll worker/ democrat in the state.
I would argue it’s not misleading at all. It doesmy matter if it’s 781.654% or 410.342%, the concept is still the same. There’s fraud.
Trump does this a lot with his tweets, cite an incorrect number that the left argues the actual number is X but still completely proves his point.
The left/swamp does the opposite. They change the whole concept of the argument while keeping technically correct numbers but hide behind “but the number is taken out of context”
Anyone who argues that numbers don’t lie either doesn’t understand or is intentionally misleading that numbers are only simplification of observations so our minds can have a reference point.
Interestingly, 78.1% (moving the decimal in 781%) is almost exactly the percent of turnout in N. Muskegon. (Again, 2,648 voters out of 3,390 registered.)
I get so confused trying to follow all this stuff.
I wish they would say "this county has 5000 population and 3500 registered voters and the vote total was 3501". Like that alone would just invalidate the whole county.
Well it’s quite simple, they changed the report to cover their tracks and while it doesn’t prove anything, it’s odd to see a major typo in a computer generated report in the brief time I looked at it. Notice that the report is dated 11/13/2020, 10 days after the election, rather odd don’t you think? I’d have to cross check to see if the numbers they’re reporting now are the same as what they reported earlier. Also in the report there seemed to be precincts out of order and some seemed to be outright missing near the end. Almost like it was hastily thrown together and not the proper report.
Don’t forget, the left deals in lies and subterfuge. Just like Google conveniently made thedonald on Reddit unsearchable, they reversed it later once we started talking about it and made us look foolish when we said “try for yourself” and the normie could search it just fine.
I do find it odd that these government sites aren’t ending in .gov, quite frankly the whole thing looks sketchy, but I was able to arrive to the reports eventually from Michigan’s official website, still odd, but doesn’t prove anything.
Long story short, I’d trust someone willing to sign an affidavit since that comes with the consequence of 5 years jail time and you better believe that if the left ever managed to get power that they’d use that as an excuse to throw them in jail and take all their possessions.
Edit: I read the section and want to change my answer as my previous one was based on just reading the comments above.
It sounds like the point being made is they found a lot of places (643 precincts) with over 80% turnout. 80% is already a fraud indicator for most places.
They don't have all the data since it is being repressed so they normalized based on what they do have and counting excess votes over 80% turnout and found a minimum 36,812 fraudulent votes.
Here is the text you can read it yourself
11. Another statistical red flag can be observed in Michigan where even the
very limited remaining public data reveals 643 precincts with voter turn-out
above 80%, according to county records. Further if these very limited remaining
public data votes were normalized to 80% turnout (still 15%+/- above normal),
the excess votes are at least 36,812 over the maximum that could be expected.
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Here is my Previous answer that may be correct still but I dont know how they normalized the data. And it was not thr main point that was trying to be made in the document.
They based the 781% off of 80% instead of 100%. Normalizing just puts numbers into a perspective. I think they did that because 80% turnout is already a suspicious number that people could go to court to dispute because most record breaking turnout hits barely into the 70%s.
So the 781% is basically showing almost 8 times the amount of votes above what an already suspicious fraud line would be.
Over three years of phony Russia investigations and the Democrats and media don't want to talk about these phony results for even three weeks while there is still NO OFFICIAL WINNER! yet they claim it's over. Tells you how much they care about integrity, it only matters if it is a result they don't like.
Not to mention how they screamed that Trump stole the last election. If they feel the election was legit this time they shouldn’t care if any audits happen.
I asked some cuck to show me the lawsuits and challenges with hundreds of pages of affidavits that were filed against the Trump win in 2016 when he said this election wasn't stolen but 2016 was.
If they honestly think there was no fraud, they should love an audit. It would give them an opportunity to be smug and make Trump look bad. They're not doing this because they know they cheated and got caught.
Every conservative’s go-to in 2021-onward should be “I don’t care.” Don’t give people who think it was stolen the time of day anymore, because we’ve seen that it’s irrelevant and everyone knows the truth.
For the leaders? Death
For the underlings? Felony - never vote again, never be involved in voting or politics again, massive penalty (debt for the rest of your life), lose job, a tattoo on your head that says "traitor", prison time, public humiliation. for starters
Guys, just got in "argument" ( I was just calm asking questions) over how fraud couldn't have happened because 1000s of people would of had to have been in on it. My only argument for the sake of securing my power level, was how that argument is a copout. I just went through 30 minutes of ridicule from my family because I didn't believe that to be a logical argument as to why it couldn't have taken place.
Be strong Pedes. Stay calm. Don't waver. Don't shy away. Don't ridicule your family, even when they do.
They simply don't understand that what happened here can be done with an extraordinarily small amount of people. In fact, many of the affidavits/complaints point out that most of the cases of vote-flipping and purposeful vote selection, disqualification, etc. are done by sometimes 1 to 2 people. The systems we use to count the votes are so vulnerable and insecure all it takes is a couple people to be corrupt.
This. The hearing yesterday demonstrated very clearly that it only takes one or two people to impact tens of thousands of votes. I'll have to pull that testimony out and post it, so we can put that argument to bed.
and dont forget the useful idiots in the big blue cities they bribed ($650) that were responsible for the physical ballot stuffing. no doubt most did this jubilantly.
These useful-idiot democrats don't even need to be bribed to do the sketchy shit they did. There are hundreds of affidavits stating that poll watchers etc. were bullied, treated unequal, forced far away from actually seeing votes as they're counted, harassment, threats, the list goes on.
The leftist media creates zealot leftists that will go out of their way to "win", bribe not required.
There are hundreds of affidavits stating that poll watchers etc. were bullied, treated unequal, forced far away from actually seeing votes as they're counted, harassment, threats, the list goes on.
exactly, especially in these black districts. They have been convinced that all on the Right are racists.
Yeah, there were a bunch of people who weren't connected. Just doing what they could from their position because orange man bad. There was connected fraud, like the states shutting down at the same time. But there was a lot of little frauds, like voting 3 times, or getting 50 votes from some mental hospital, some blue hair running the same ballots through 50 times.. A bunch of those little ones added up. Then when you collectively look at all of it combined, you get these unrealistic numbers, like 80,000,000 for biden.
There was too much unconnected fraud which exposed all of it connected and unconnected.
Plus all they do is the same as the riots. Call this number we'll get you free, then pay them to go do it.
I have to pick my points wisely cause unfortunately I wish to keep their "support" as family, so as I said... Have to conceal my power level. My argument was basic. "1000s of people would have to be involved and keep it secret" is not a valid argument to why it couldn't have happened. Real basic. Doesn't show what side I'm on, just that it was a faulty argument on their part. The backlash was so intense that clearly, mentioning veritas would lead to explosions. I did however show one of them the video of the usps working explaining how he didn't recant. They believed he did recant. They even told me I was crazy for thinking this guy had 3 hours of an fbi interrogation , that the fbi would have patted him down for wires... The delusion is strong amongst those who are grasping for reality . It became sad, and my empathy kicked in, which is bullshit because I did nothing wrong, But FUCk... They are worried
Their basic argument doesn't even make sense, "Can't happen because thousands would have to be involved and that many people can't keep a secret." Well they didn't keep it a secret, in fact they were caught, thousands of times. Or are they now asserting that thousands of people couldn't conspire to cheat, but thousands of people could conspire to pretend they did? You already pointed out the veritas stuff, where they didn't have to trick anyone to find election fraud, the criminals were openly posting what they were doing to social media.
Basically, you won't win because this is emotional for them. Evidence causes them mental anguish, and makes them upset with you for causing them this pain. The only way out is for them to convince themselves, I haven't found a way to confront them about reality that ends well.
I know. It's rough. It was sad. I'm not in the business of convincing people of things, I learned long ago that's a pointless path... But I wanted them to at least see how their argument was not a real argument. I did mention the 1000s of affidavits, bit they kept saying how all of Trump's cases were thrown out. I responded with , " well I thought those were other people's suits in court" and that " honestly, I haven't been fond of guiliani since 2001". I was seriously trying to just ask why they thought their argument was valid when it's clearly not. I explained the video of Coomer showing how to change a vote with the software... And they went back to, " well, see... He would have had to have 1000s of people take part" I explained how that's a false logic as well. He showed how one person could. Then the argument shifted to the actually physical ballots and how of they faked numbers in the software, how come the physical added up. I said, well they said pa issued 1.4 million mail I'ma but received 2 million. They told me because that hearing wasn't a real court hearing that it's not valid evidence.
It really is too emotional for them.
I told them to buy futures in laughter, cause my God is it coming
I sincerely hope you can break free of their craziness soon. Even if they come to see the light, it's better for you to be independent and free to speak your mind. Let them come to you when they're ready.
Hundreds of thousands of unidentified "mail-in" ballots, not requested, marked for only one candidate, etc.
Simply adding or subtracting to the total of votes when you submit the precinct count.
100s of Precincts had more votes then voters, more votes than ballots.
I'm not even counting, yet, votes added electronically in the machines. There are a hundred ways to cheat Democrats, &RINOs used them all, subtract all the different fraud votes you have a Trump Landslide.
This is Almost all ONLY in the 1-2 Largest Counties in Each State, it is NOT wide spread (maybe the electronic is) It does not need to be wide spread when you can add 500,000 votes in a single county. One county clerk can add 500,000 votes, one person.
Traitors will be dealt with. I don't even feel like we are holding a line anymore, I'm casually walking foreward while whistling my favourite tune. They fucked up so bad. We fucked them up with our high energy, legendaty turnout to show support for GEOTUS and our country.
We the people need to make sure the traitors are dealt with if anyone in government refuses to do so. In fact..... anyone who refuses to do so should get the same punishment because they are complicit in this bullshit. The time for games is over. Anyone who says violence isn’t an option is a moron. It isn’t our first option- we’ve already used up a bunch of options- but it definitely is an option. Let’s hope things are dealt with in the next month or so and we don’t have to use that option
Yes, and yes. The irony is, the MN stats they showed were also horrid and riddled with impossible numbers, and correcting it to MI now shows it absolutely effects more than 1 state lmao.
Hold on, the city of North Muskegon population is estimated at 3,793, not all of which are obviously of voting age or registered to vote. The total votes, if I am reading this right, is 3,770.
Am I mistaken in adding straight party to the totals for the race below? If so, the vote total is 2,633 out of an estimated population of 3,793 and that's a lot more believable and in contrast to the 781% claim.
blank ballots can be entered into the system and treated as “writeins.” Then the operator can enter an allocation of the write-ins among candidates
as he wishes. The final result then awards the winner based on “points” the
algorithm in the compute, not actual votes. The fact that we observed raw vote
data that includes decimal places suggests strongly that this was, in fact, done.
Otherwise, votes would be solely represented as whole numbers.
Right? We've known about it for weeks but to read weighted votes and decimals and points and algorithms instead of one person one vote again in black and white is just... like... ORLY???
I love how alot of these affidavits are from like literally the most qualified people in the world. This guy only went to Harvard and Duke. And worked with NASA and MIT. I thought the left was the party of science? or was that just more propaganda, really turns out they are the party of lies and feelings. They even get degrees in feelings. We need to promote that we are the party of math and science and tech. Because we are.
what good does an audit do when theyve refabricated trump ballots to biden ballots and shredded half the remaining trump ballots? nobody asks this question.
Default win for Trump and all congress races would be appropriate cause the vote is completely pozzzed and its impossible to figure the true count. Also the more time passes by the more Dem’s destroy/manipulate evidence etc.
So the machines could only process about 100k ballots in these precincts in 2 hours and they reported over 350k votes? Lol.
Also there's no way that these Detroit precincts got anywhere near 80% turnout, let alone 100%. The amount of same-day registrations is insignificant. New Jersey sent out ballots to every voter and only got back 72% with comparable cities like Newark only getting 50-60% turnout.
Washington and Colorado have been doing mail-in elections for decades and they get turnouts in the 60s-70s% for their most engaged precincts in the suburbs.
Precinct/Township % Turnout
City of North Muskegon 781.91%
Zeeland Charter Township 460.51%
Grout Township 215.21%
City of Muskegon 205.07%
City of Detroit 139.29%
Spring Lake Township 120.00%
Greenwood Township 100.00%
Hart Township 100.00%
Leavitt Township 100.00%
Newfield Township 100.00%
Otto Township 100.00%
Pentwater Township 100.00%
Shelby Township 100.00%
Shelby Township 100.00%
Weare Township 100.00%
City of Hart 100.00%
Grand Island Township 96.77%
Tallmadge Charter Township 95.24%
Fenton 93.33%
Bohemia Twp 90.63%
Anyone who continues to ignore evidence like that presented in the OP doesn't care if we become a banana republic. They only care about getting the results they want and imposing their will. The only question remaining is whether we will allow it to happen.
No. It was in another thread that started last night. As I went through it there was a guy bashing so hard that I had to check and see if it was a shill. Not a newby, but maybe a sleeper. (Not sure what to do with those.) In another thread somebody pointed out the same thing, but they weren't mean about it. Of course guy 2 could've read the crap from guy 1 and taken it to heart.
This is something my husband hashed out this morning.
I reminded him that he's a retired soldier and he knows damn well how important propaganda can be during a war. You can barely hold on from a military standpoint, but turn the entire war by demoralizing the enemy and sapping away their will to fight.
I've got hard, 2A, flag waving, Constitution-loving friends who saw Newsmax call Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Nevada for Biden yesterday that just melted. They're done. They went from, "WE WILL FIGHT!" to, "Well, I guess there's no point anymore. America's dead." I spent all morning dragging them back from the brink.
It's ridiculous how fragile some people's resolve really is.
This is a great affidavit that offers a lot of compelling evidence of potential tampering. My one issue is that listing of townships with high turnout seems to have several duplicates in it. The most worrying one is Zeeland Charter Township, which is listed twice with two different turnout numbers (460 and 90.6%)
Why do they keep saying there is no evidence of fraud? The fraud was on another level, breaking election laws all over the place and helped all by the kungflu and yet it is completely ignored by MSM. Funny how the lower courts are throwing out cases based on racism and not on law. I guess those cases are getting reported on but not fairly. I can only hope when these case hit the highest courts the rule of law will win.
Follow the money. The Democratic Party, the MSM, and social media companies are tightly bound by personal and financial relationships. They are de facto the same political entity.
Anything above 80% voter turnout is normally considered an overvote. For enough people to register and vote on election day to raise the turnout above 80% is in and of itself, suspicious. To raise the turnout in over 640 precincts above 80% is circumstantial evidence of fraud.
If a voter in Precinct_A mails their ballot in, and it gets added to the tally for AVBC_1, then does it not get added to the Precint_A total, thus showing a lower turnout in Precint_A and contributing to the indeterminable ratio of AVBC_1? Why wouldn't all the ballots counted in AVBC_1 have the votes tallied in the respective precincts, so that the turnout ratios would make sense?
Doesn't that seem like a scheme to allow for fraud? If Precint_A has 1000 registered voters, and 700 of them mail in their ballots, then turnout in _A cannot be greater than 30%. If among the remaining 300 half voted in person, then turnout would be 15%. Ergo, we would expect to see very low turnout in most precincts under the theory that most people mailed in their ballots. Meanwhile, in AVCB_1, ballots are mixed together from many precincts (see in the document you linked: "A jurisdiction that uses AV counting boards must establish an AV counting board for each precinct. (Jurisdictions of 250 or more precincts are exempt.)", so there are no numbers of registered voters available to constrain the maximum possible number of registered voters, so any number of votes can be counted in AVCB_1, whether real or fraudulent, and if there is no way to trace each ballot back to a legitimate registered voter, then there is no legitimacy to the vote counts at all.
"Determine the legality of the ballot by checking the signature on the absentee ballot return envelope against the voter’s absent voter ballot application and checking the ePollbook to confirm that the voter has not voted in person at the election (these steps are optional forAVCBs)."
"Cell Phones: Challengers and poll watchers may not be in possession of or have access to cell phones or other communication devices in an AVCB during the sequestration period. The enforcement of this policy is critical to the integrity of the election process."
So, what I glean from all of this, is that an AVCB is a black hole, where no one can record what is going on, and no one can validate the number of votes counted vs the number of legitimate registered voters (because large precincts can be combined), and where no duplicate votes or fraudulent signatures can be detected (because AVCB's are not required to do so).
Sounds like complete bullshit to me. Do you not agree?
At the bottom, it says: "Hold a few ballots back for late ballot processing". Can you or anyone explain what in the fuck would be the reason for doing that?
Overrides using the dominion machines during the shutdown seems to be the consistent opportunity. The question is how they would cover it or would a hand recount expose it?
Detroit Precincts Are NO LONGER REPORTING PUBLICLY! These numbers will only get worse as more information becomes available.
Sounds about right.
-a former resident of Wayne county.
Hey, at least you guys have the Lions. Oh wait...
At least you have the Tigers... no that's not it...
The red wings?
Why do people live in Wayne county again?
Wings held the city together for years, and by that I mean drove suburbanites downtown to spend money.
Now...not so much.
Detroit is a failed city black hole that is pulling Michigan into the status of Failed State
Through fraud, if you haven’t noticed.
It’s all bullshit.
Take that out and Detroit will actually have a Renaissance.
It really puts into perspective the fact that dems want America to die.
Yup. They’d rather rule over the ashes than see the greatest nation succeed.
These people are sick.
I laughed when I saw the dems want to give "free farmland" to blacks in the cities. Sounds like an excuse to scatter ten million black urbanites to rural 1 person per square mile areas in the middle of nowhere, then resettle the ghettoes with hipsters.
IF- and that's a big IF- Biden gets into office, we're gonna see a hell of a ride to hell.
Sounds like a Great Leap Forward.
I'm sure it will work out fine.
In the past...after the Civil War...they also promised the freedom slaves 40 acres and a mule.
I don't think most city dwelling Black folk want to go back to scratching a living off a small piece of land.
So they'll become farmers? How did that work in South Africa.?
Really? Like 40 acres and a mule?
It's too bad they had to start sucking so bad right when they went to the new stadium. They couldn't even get that thing half full!
Illitch’s thought they could demand that kinda coin for their shiny new venue.
Joe Louis Arena was the spirit of Detroit.
All part of it! Head down the aisles, like they did at Olympia.
Wanna know something weird? Ilitch's son, Atanas, was briefly an actor and singer. He starred in Slumber Party Massacre II and even had a musical number that he wrote and sang for the movie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwYMgLoENH8
That's insane to me. The son of the guy that founded Little Ceasar's Pizza was a slasher movie bad guy.
Detroit style Pizza...maybe?
You mean the casserole? oh wait that's Chicago Pizza.
That’s a funny way to spell best pizza.
xD I take it you're from New York as well?
People that lived in the Philly area use that term also 👌
Close enough to New York, makes sense lol.
Well, we've got the Silverdome.
Wait...
Well, they are tearing the abandoned buildings down faster now and there's less lead in the soil than expected?
I figured it out. It's the roads! They're great right? Stretchen said we're fixing them!
Stretchan lolz
You mean the potholes with crumbling asphalt between them?
Yeah. The roads.
Now that was funny.
Because they love the tropical weather and rolling hills.
Cant sell their worthless property, stuck. Although those who rent idk why
Those who own are at an advantage to those who rent. They either sell the property at a loss, or they declare bankruptcy. Either way, they're just as free to move as the renters.
It is being comfortable where you are, even if where you are objectively sucks, that is the problem, not mobility.
Is wayne county just Detroit or are there near suburbs that also get held prisoner by Detroit?
Suburbs too. Over a million plus live in Wayne county, outside of Detroit.
Detroit is the main city. With a city that large, there are sure to be other decently sized cities and suburbs bordering it, and a few more rural areas as well. Counties are pretty large. So is Detroit, but it's not COUNTY sized.
Like, I don't live far from Pittsburgh PA. It's in Allegheny county, and the city has a lot of people, but outside that there is still forests and stuff where people live in the same county, as well as smaller cities and towns.
Of course, when you live in a county with a massive city, your politics are pretty much dictated by that city if you live in a more rural area. You're pretty much just along for the ride.
I concur.
-a current resident of Wayne county.
It's easy to fake a Detroit address when there are so many abandoned/condemned houses and other buildings in the city.
Wait they can do that?
I dont think any of them are MN. I think that got straightened out. Someone mistook MI and MN. They were listing Detroit Lakes, Frazee, and others that were all in lakes country where a lot of MSP millionaires have lake homes. I assume some shenanigans there also with double voting.
Isn't Grand Rapids also in lakes country? That's where Gerald Ford was from, right? ;)
Wait.....I thought Grand Rapids, Michigan had the big paper mill? Judy Garland is from there?
Grand Rapids, MI is in Kent County. Known for the furniture industry historically. Steelcase is from here, Herman Miller is not far either.
Ford is from MI, Garland is from MN.
womp x 36812
Gotta love how the leftists were screaming about how stupid the typos were, when in reality it just showed that Minnesota is ALSO fraudulent. LOL
How's that? I saw the typo, but how's it show Minnesota?
The original version of the affidavit had the stats for Minnesota precincts, so they corrected it and replaced all the stats with actual Michigan precincts. What's funny is, even the stats from Minnesota were just as bad as Michigan's, showing that it's fraud-riddled there as well.
That doesn't surprise me in the least... you mean to tell me Trump lost to Clinton by 0.5% but lost to Biden by over 2? Okay.
Guarantee we won MN as well.
You mean Massachusetts? Pretty sure MS is Mississippi.
Meant MN. Too many M states.
If you combine all the states that start with M, you get 70 Electoral Votes across 8 states using the current map.
Can’t recall who it is but some comedians got a bit about the bloke that had to come up with the abbreviations for states, it’s a good watch for a laugh.
Alabama - AL simple Arkansas - AR easy, no problem Alaska - Fuck!
They were churning these out so fast they probably made one as a template and then used it for other state and didn’t make the switch.
It’s still sloppy but way better then I could do so I’m not going to arm chair quarterback. I’ve given up football anyway
Suddenly we're back in the old ARPANET days and it takes observers being forced out to compromise the machines. Also he forgot the red 2016 Anterim county. Just a poison pill from the powerlineblog article
Someone said affidavit from wrong state was included. More than a typo, technically. But any of these errors may have been intentional to get the message out by baiting people into criticizing the errors.
Anybody else notice that there are TWO paragraphs numbered '13' ???
This is clear and irrefutable evidence of ... just how fast all these amazing legal teams were working to SAVE OUR REPUBLIC!!!
The 781% turnout figure is misleading. That is percentage turnout when normalized to 80%. Not sure why they chose to do that.
The part about more ballots counted than counting capacity is huge. I wish they included a breakdown of the counties, machine types, and number of machines. Maybe that will be revealed later?
Edit: from further analysis downthread, this figure appears to be completely inaccurate:
https://thedonald.win/p/11QS7j8aGI/x/c/4DpL5WZ58UB
So if they went off of 100% it would have been like 650% voter turnout or something like that? Still really really bad
80-100+% is bad, 650% is absolutely comical levels of fraud. Comical because all you can do is laugh to keep yourself from going full judge dredd on every single poll worker/ democrat in the state.
They made the lie big on purpose, known tactic.
Probably because 80% is the highest historical normal and they are showing us it is 781% higher than the historical normal
Our historical voting participation rate is in the 60s range. In the 2020 election, I think there were 100 million eligible voters who did not vote.
If 80% is 781% higher than the historical normal that would mean the historical normal is just barely over 10% wouldn't it?
Ah weird, I must have read the comment differently originally because upon re-reading that makes way more sense
I would argue it’s not misleading at all. It doesmy matter if it’s 781.654% or 410.342%, the concept is still the same. There’s fraud.
Trump does this a lot with his tweets, cite an incorrect number that the left argues the actual number is X but still completely proves his point.
The left/swamp does the opposite. They change the whole concept of the argument while keeping technically correct numbers but hide behind “but the number is taken out of context”
Anyone who argues that numbers don’t lie either doesn’t understand or is intentionally misleading that numbers are only simplification of observations so our minds can have a reference point.
There are lies, damn lies, and statistics.
Interestingly, 78.1% (moving the decimal in 781%) is almost exactly the percent of turnout in N. Muskegon. (Again, 2,648 voters out of 3,390 registered.)
I get so confused trying to follow all this stuff.
I wish they would say "this county has 5000 population and 3500 registered voters and the vote total was 3501". Like that alone would just invalidate the whole county.
Yeah I agree, I like seeing the raw data, it’s really easy to explain to normies that way.
Really? Link it.
Well it’s quite simple, they changed the report to cover their tracks and while it doesn’t prove anything, it’s odd to see a major typo in a computer generated report in the brief time I looked at it. Notice that the report is dated 11/13/2020, 10 days after the election, rather odd don’t you think? I’d have to cross check to see if the numbers they’re reporting now are the same as what they reported earlier. Also in the report there seemed to be precincts out of order and some seemed to be outright missing near the end. Almost like it was hastily thrown together and not the proper report.
Don’t forget, the left deals in lies and subterfuge. Just like Google conveniently made thedonald on Reddit unsearchable, they reversed it later once we started talking about it and made us look foolish when we said “try for yourself” and the normie could search it just fine.
I do find it odd that these government sites aren’t ending in .gov, quite frankly the whole thing looks sketchy, but I was able to arrive to the reports eventually from Michigan’s official website, still odd, but doesn’t prove anything.
Long story short, I’d trust someone willing to sign an affidavit since that comes with the consequence of 5 years jail time and you better believe that if the left ever managed to get power that they’d use that as an excuse to throw them in jail and take all their possessions.
Edit: I read the section and want to change my answer as my previous one was based on just reading the comments above.
It sounds like the point being made is they found a lot of places (643 precincts) with over 80% turnout. 80% is already a fraud indicator for most places. They don't have all the data since it is being repressed so they normalized based on what they do have and counting excess votes over 80% turnout and found a minimum 36,812 fraudulent votes.
Here is the text you can read it yourself 11. Another statistical red flag can be observed in Michigan where even the very limited remaining public data reveals 643 precincts with voter turn-out above 80%, according to county records. Further if these very limited remaining public data votes were normalized to 80% turnout (still 15%+/- above normal), the excess votes are at least 36,812 over the maximum that could be expected.
----------‐‐‐------------- Here is my Previous answer that may be correct still but I dont know how they normalized the data. And it was not thr main point that was trying to be made in the document.
They based the 781% off of 80% instead of 100%. Normalizing just puts numbers into a perspective. I think they did that because 80% turnout is already a suspicious number that people could go to court to dispute because most record breaking turnout hits barely into the 70%s.
So the 781% is basically showing almost 8 times the amount of votes above what an already suspicious fraud line would be.
According to the official state data, there were 0.779 times as many votes compared to registered voters.
Adjusted for defined factors.
It means these numbers ain't normal! This sheeit is rigged!
Ya think so?
;>
Over three years of phony Russia investigations and the Democrats and media don't want to talk about these phony results for even three weeks while there is still NO OFFICIAL WINNER! yet they claim it's over. Tells you how much they care about integrity, it only matters if it is a result they don't like.
Not to mention how they screamed that Trump stole the last election. If they feel the election was legit this time they shouldn’t care if any audits happen.
I asked some cuck to show me the lawsuits and challenges with hundreds of pages of affidavits that were filed against the Trump win in 2016 when he said this election wasn't stolen but 2016 was.
He didn't even bother to bring up the ENTIRE MUELLER PROBE?
Nope.
Even the Commies know the Mueller probe was complete BS.
If they honestly think there was no fraud, they should love an audit. It would give them an opportunity to be smug and make Trump look bad. They're not doing this because they know they cheated and got caught.
“NOOO please don’t check my work, I arrived at the right answer! Every step was followed! Don’t check!”
Should be embracing them!
You want to “come together and heal”? Then they should be damn determined to guarantee confidence in the election results being legit.
Instead, they’re trying to hastily sweep it under the rug. Why???? (We know why)
The mainstream media (both traditional and social) are disseminating propaganda at an unprecedented level.
It's glaringly obvious when they are all broadcasting the same message in unison.
Actual journalists would normally have incentive to compete and get exclusive stories before the other guys.
Stories that all come out at the same time and project the same message are a dead giveaway of a coordinated propaganda operation.
We need someone like in They Live breaking into all the news channel broadcasts to tell the people the truth.
Or hand out magic sunglasses or something.
TheDonald.win, Bitchute, and Parler will have to suffice for now.
they can claim whatever they want - everyone else is going to watch this fucker burn
Every conservative’s go-to in 2021-onward should be “I don’t care.” Don’t give people who think it was stolen the time of day anymore, because we’ve seen that it’s irrelevant and everyone knows the truth.
"We'll fix it later"
We’ll do the damn thing live!
STOP THE HAMMERING!
I hope you are talking about the public executions.
Whats the penalty for all those that took part in and for all those complacent in election fraud?
Death
Yes
For the leaders? Death For the underlings? Felony - never vote again, never be involved in voting or politics again, massive penalty (debt for the rest of your life), lose job, a tattoo on your head that says "traitor", prison time, public humiliation. for starters
The Brazen Bull.
Oh, I like you!
How about Scaphism on the shores of Lake Michigan?
On one hand, that would really send a message about election fraud. On the other hand though, that's our water supply.
Maybe a Flint river?
"Death" = nothing unfortunately
Guys, just got in "argument" ( I was just calm asking questions) over how fraud couldn't have happened because 1000s of people would of had to have been in on it. My only argument for the sake of securing my power level, was how that argument is a copout. I just went through 30 minutes of ridicule from my family because I didn't believe that to be a logical argument as to why it couldn't have taken place.
Be strong Pedes. Stay calm. Don't waver. Don't shy away. Don't ridicule your family, even when they do.
They simply don't understand that what happened here can be done with an extraordinarily small amount of people. In fact, many of the affidavits/complaints point out that most of the cases of vote-flipping and purposeful vote selection, disqualification, etc. are done by sometimes 1 to 2 people. The systems we use to count the votes are so vulnerable and insecure all it takes is a couple people to be corrupt.
This. The hearing yesterday demonstrated very clearly that it only takes one or two people to impact tens of thousands of votes. I'll have to pull that testimony out and post it, so we can put that argument to bed.
Testimony- https://streamable.com/u29dre
Source- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSDZkXxFVEU&t=1h6m53s
and dont forget the useful idiots in the big blue cities they bribed ($650) that were responsible for the physical ballot stuffing. no doubt most did this jubilantly.
These useful-idiot democrats don't even need to be bribed to do the sketchy shit they did. There are hundreds of affidavits stating that poll watchers etc. were bullied, treated unequal, forced far away from actually seeing votes as they're counted, harassment, threats, the list goes on.
The leftist media creates zealot leftists that will go out of their way to "win", bribe not required.
the money adds an additional trail
Of course they did, and they did it at all levels. If you had a chance to defeat "literally Hitler", wouldn't you?
exactly, especially in these black districts. They have been convinced that all on the Right are racists.
Riggers gonna rig.
Those dumb riggers would, with a smile on their face, sell their kids for a few benjamins. They don't care about anything but themselves.
Then they just quote Krebs who the media parroted, "the most secure election in history!"
Yeah, there were a bunch of people who weren't connected. Just doing what they could from their position because orange man bad. There was connected fraud, like the states shutting down at the same time. But there was a lot of little frauds, like voting 3 times, or getting 50 votes from some mental hospital, some blue hair running the same ballots through 50 times.. A bunch of those little ones added up. Then when you collectively look at all of it combined, you get these unrealistic numbers, like 80,000,000 for biden.
There was too much unconnected fraud which exposed all of it connected and unconnected.
Plus all they do is the same as the riots. Call this number we'll get you free, then pay them to go do it.
I have to pick my points wisely cause unfortunately I wish to keep their "support" as family, so as I said... Have to conceal my power level. My argument was basic. "1000s of people would have to be involved and keep it secret" is not a valid argument to why it couldn't have happened. Real basic. Doesn't show what side I'm on, just that it was a faulty argument on their part. The backlash was so intense that clearly, mentioning veritas would lead to explosions. I did however show one of them the video of the usps working explaining how he didn't recant. They believed he did recant. They even told me I was crazy for thinking this guy had 3 hours of an fbi interrogation , that the fbi would have patted him down for wires... The delusion is strong amongst those who are grasping for reality . It became sad, and my empathy kicked in, which is bullshit because I did nothing wrong, But FUCk... They are worried
Their basic argument doesn't even make sense, "Can't happen because thousands would have to be involved and that many people can't keep a secret." Well they didn't keep it a secret, in fact they were caught, thousands of times. Or are they now asserting that thousands of people couldn't conspire to cheat, but thousands of people could conspire to pretend they did? You already pointed out the veritas stuff, where they didn't have to trick anyone to find election fraud, the criminals were openly posting what they were doing to social media.
Basically, you won't win because this is emotional for them. Evidence causes them mental anguish, and makes them upset with you for causing them this pain. The only way out is for them to convince themselves, I haven't found a way to confront them about reality that ends well.
I know. It's rough. It was sad. I'm not in the business of convincing people of things, I learned long ago that's a pointless path... But I wanted them to at least see how their argument was not a real argument. I did mention the 1000s of affidavits, bit they kept saying how all of Trump's cases were thrown out. I responded with , " well I thought those were other people's suits in court" and that " honestly, I haven't been fond of guiliani since 2001". I was seriously trying to just ask why they thought their argument was valid when it's clearly not. I explained the video of Coomer showing how to change a vote with the software... And they went back to, " well, see... He would have had to have 1000s of people take part" I explained how that's a false logic as well. He showed how one person could. Then the argument shifted to the actually physical ballots and how of they faked numbers in the software, how come the physical added up. I said, well they said pa issued 1.4 million mail I'ma but received 2 million. They told me because that hearing wasn't a real court hearing that it's not valid evidence.
It really is too emotional for them.
I told them to buy futures in laughter, cause my God is it coming
My argument ended with
Family member - " oh, so you think our democracy is shit?"
Me - " always has been"
It was postal inspectors, not FBI.
I sincerely hope you can break free of their craziness soon. Even if they come to see the light, it's better for you to be independent and free to speak your mind. Let them come to you when they're ready.
I'm broken free for sure. Own house and family and independent . I just don't wish to destroy my relationship
Point to the complete secrecy regarding the Manhattan project.
Did.
Over 100 million voters in America KNOW rigging happened AND changed the outcome of the elections.
So anyone arguing differently is lying or ignorant, believe me.
This is DISPOOTED! /s
Woah.. dead peeps, cats and dogs can vote too, bigot!
Ballots run through counters multiple times.
People voting multiplet times.
Hundreds of thousands of unidentified "mail-in" ballots, not requested, marked for only one candidate, etc.
Simply adding or subtracting to the total of votes when you submit the precinct count.
100s of Precincts had more votes then voters, more votes than ballots.
I'm not even counting, yet, votes added electronically in the machines. There are a hundred ways to cheat Democrats, &RINOs used them all, subtract all the different fraud votes you have a Trump Landslide.
This is Almost all ONLY in the 1-2 Largest Counties in Each State, it is NOT wide spread (maybe the electronic is) It does not need to be wide spread when you can add 500,000 votes in a single county. One county clerk can add 500,000 votes, one person.
Traitors will be dealt with. I don't even feel like we are holding a line anymore, I'm casually walking foreward while whistling my favourite tune. They fucked up so bad. We fucked them up with our high energy, legendaty turnout to show support for GEOTUS and our country.
We the people need to make sure the traitors are dealt with if anyone in government refuses to do so. In fact..... anyone who refuses to do so should get the same punishment because they are complicit in this bullshit. The time for games is over. Anyone who says violence isn’t an option is a moron. It isn’t our first option- we’ve already used up a bunch of options- but it definitely is an option. Let’s hope things are dealt with in the next month or so and we don’t have to use that option
Is this the one where they mixed up MN and MI? Did they fix it?
Yes, and yes. The irony is, the MN stats they showed were also horrid and riddled with impossible numbers, and correcting it to MI now shows it absolutely effects more than 1 state lmao.
I'm confused. What are you concluding from this? That the affidavit is wrong, or that the numbers are impossible to make sense of?
Hold on, the city of North Muskegon population is estimated at 3,793, not all of which are obviously of voting age or registered to vote. The total votes, if I am reading this right, is 3,770.
Am I mistaken in adding straight party to the totals for the race below? If so, the vote total is 2,633 out of an estimated population of 3,793 and that's a lot more believable and in contrast to the 781% claim.
After the Project Veritas video with the Somali fraud that was pretty obvious.
CNN: 691% of voters in Michigan suppressed and disenfranchised!
When they start scrubbing the website ya know shits about to hit the fan
Right? We've known about it for weeks but to read weighted votes and decimals and points and algorithms instead of one person one vote again in black and white is just... like... ORLY???
I could make a better vote-cheating system myself! And I'm an amateur programmer.
I love how alot of these affidavits are from like literally the most qualified people in the world. This guy only went to Harvard and Duke. And worked with NASA and MIT. I thought the left was the party of science? or was that just more propaganda, really turns out they are the party of lies and feelings. They even get degrees in feelings. We need to promote that we are the party of math and science and tech. Because we are.
Either you throw it out or you do a full audit, of everything. Call in the national guard to handle the audit.
what good does an audit do when theyve refabricated trump ballots to biden ballots and shredded half the remaining trump ballots? nobody asks this question.
Default win for Trump and all congress races would be appropriate cause the vote is completely pozzzed and its impossible to figure the true count. Also the more time passes by the more Dem’s destroy/manipulate evidence etc.
So the machines could only process about 100k ballots in these precincts in 2 hours and they reported over 350k votes? Lol.
Also there's no way that these Detroit precincts got anywhere near 80% turnout, let alone 100%. The amount of same-day registrations is insignificant. New Jersey sent out ballots to every voter and only got back 72% with comparable cities like Newark only getting 50-60% turnout.
Washington and Colorado have been doing mail-in elections for decades and they get turnouts in the 60s-70s% for their most engaged precincts in the suburbs.
Precinct/Township % Turnout City of North Muskegon 781.91% Zeeland Charter Township 460.51% Grout Township 215.21% City of Muskegon 205.07% City of Detroit 139.29% Spring Lake Township 120.00% Greenwood Township 100.00% Hart Township 100.00% Leavitt Township 100.00% Newfield Township 100.00% Otto Township 100.00% Pentwater Township 100.00% Shelby Township 100.00% Shelby Township 100.00% Weare Township 100.00% City of Hart 100.00% Grand Island Township 96.77% Tallmadge Charter Township 95.24% Fenton 93.33% Bohemia Twp 90.63%
HAHAHAHA WHAT A HORRENDOUS MISTAKE THE DEMOCRATS COMMITED!
MFW I keep learning the absolutely absurd ways the demo-traitors cheated in the election because they were THAT desperate to beat Orange Man...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qileP4bAzek
Imagine being the most popular President in American history and your opponents have to cheat like a third world country to still barely scrape by.
That just makes destroying them all the more sweet.
Anyone who continues to ignore evidence like that presented in the OP doesn't care if we become a banana republic. They only care about getting the results they want and imposing their will. The only question remaining is whether we will allow it to happen.
The hammer keeps falling.
People HERE are discrediting this guy and saying that this destroys Sidney's entire file.
It's getting irritating.
remember there are a lot of people here who will always be luke warm. dont let it bother you, they will always be with us.
No. It was in another thread that started last night. As I went through it there was a guy bashing so hard that I had to check and see if it was a shill. Not a newby, but maybe a sleeper. (Not sure what to do with those.) In another thread somebody pointed out the same thing, but they weren't mean about it. Of course guy 2 could've read the crap from guy 1 and taken it to heart.
This is something my husband hashed out this morning.
I reminded him that he's a retired soldier and he knows damn well how important propaganda can be during a war. You can barely hold on from a military standpoint, but turn the entire war by demoralizing the enemy and sapping away their will to fight.
I've got hard, 2A, flag waving, Constitution-loving friends who saw Newsmax call Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Nevada for Biden yesterday that just melted. They're done. They went from, "WE WILL FIGHT!" to, "Well, I guess there's no point anymore. America's dead." I spent all morning dragging them back from the brink.
It's ridiculous how fragile some people's resolve really is.
Newsmax did what? Wow, they pulled a FOXnews pretty quick didn't they. Glad I landed on America's Voice three weeks ago with Newsmax only as a backup.
There are a ton of articles in the MSM crowing about it. smh
This is a great affidavit that offers a lot of compelling evidence of potential tampering. My one issue is that listing of townships with high turnout seems to have several duplicates in it. The most worrying one is Zeeland Charter Township, which is listed twice with two different turnout numbers (460 and 90.6%)
This needs to be corrected.
Holy fuck 781% turnout? What?
Soooo you have 1 million people in your city but 7 million voted? Geez even I can’t dispute that
781% turnout
Did they really not expect anyone to look into this? 😆😆😆
The math in Bidenology works out!
Did he fix the issue with Minnesota locations being identified as from Michigan?
Yeah
yes
Why do they keep saying there is no evidence of fraud? The fraud was on another level, breaking election laws all over the place and helped all by the kungflu and yet it is completely ignored by MSM. Funny how the lower courts are throwing out cases based on racism and not on law. I guess those cases are getting reported on but not fairly. I can only hope when these case hit the highest courts the rule of law will win.
Follow the money. The Democratic Party, the MSM, and social media companies are tightly bound by personal and financial relationships. They are de facto the same political entity.
Anything above 80% voter turnout is normally considered an overvote. For enough people to register and vote on election day to raise the turnout above 80% is in and of itself, suspicious. To raise the turnout in over 640 precincts above 80% is circumstantial evidence of fraud.
Your Average Leftist Democrat with $100k of debt for their college "education":
https://i.ibb.co/m0MScNF/idiocracy-percents-781.jpg
similar story in Clark Co, NV. Keep digging!
If a voter in Precinct_A mails their ballot in, and it gets added to the tally for AVBC_1, then does it not get added to the Precint_A total, thus showing a lower turnout in Precint_A and contributing to the indeterminable ratio of AVBC_1? Why wouldn't all the ballots counted in AVBC_1 have the votes tallied in the respective precincts, so that the turnout ratios would make sense?
Doesn't that seem like a scheme to allow for fraud? If Precint_A has 1000 registered voters, and 700 of them mail in their ballots, then turnout in _A cannot be greater than 30%. If among the remaining 300 half voted in person, then turnout would be 15%. Ergo, we would expect to see very low turnout in most precincts under the theory that most people mailed in their ballots. Meanwhile, in AVCB_1, ballots are mixed together from many precincts (see in the document you linked: "A jurisdiction that uses AV counting boards must establish an AV counting board for each precinct. (Jurisdictions of 250 or more precincts are exempt.)", so there are no numbers of registered voters available to constrain the maximum possible number of registered voters, so any number of votes can be counted in AVCB_1, whether real or fraudulent, and if there is no way to trace each ballot back to a legitimate registered voter, then there is no legitimacy to the vote counts at all.
Does that make sense to you?
Here's another gem from that document:
"Determine the legality of the ballot by checking the signature on the absentee ballot return envelope against the voter’s absent voter ballot application and checking the ePollbook to confirm that the voter has not voted in person at the election (these steps are optional forAVCBs)."
Also:
"Cell Phones: Challengers and poll watchers may not be in possession of or have access to cell phones or other communication devices in an AVCB during the sequestration period. The enforcement of this policy is critical to the integrity of the election process."
So, what I glean from all of this, is that an AVCB is a black hole, where no one can record what is going on, and no one can validate the number of votes counted vs the number of legitimate registered voters (because large precincts can be combined), and where no duplicate votes or fraudulent signatures can be detected (because AVCB's are not required to do so).
Sounds like complete bullshit to me. Do you not agree?
And lastly, I note this glaring and bizarre piece of information:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EhUddpcDns&t=7m40s
At the bottom, it says: "Hold a few ballots back for late ballot processing". Can you or anyone explain what in the fuck would be the reason for doing that?
C’mon man, get with the new math.
🐙
781%....sheeeeeetttttt....rookie numbers
So they went for the high score did they?
Hey, maybe 791% turnout is just legitimate enthusiasm for Sleepy Joe, the most exciting presidential candidate in US history!
Massive massive fraud.
BuT tHIs WAs tHe MoSt sECurE eLecTiOn iN All oF HiStoRy!!!1!
This is the Louder with Crowder find?
Anybody else notice that there are TWO paragraphs numbered '13' ???
This is clear and irrefutable evidence of ... just how fast all these amazing legal teams were working to SAVE OUR REPUBLIC!!!
Overrides using the dominion machines during the shutdown seems to be the consistent opportunity. The question is how they would cover it or would a hand recount expose it?
Why the fuck do our voting machines have a procedure to cast blank ballots?????
I could see legitimate use for something like that in testing. Should never be active in deployment.
What's next?