Guys, just got in "argument" ( I was just calm asking questions) over how fraud couldn't have happened because 1000s of people would of had to have been in on it. My only argument for the sake of securing my power level, was how that argument is a copout. I just went through 30 minutes of ridicule from my family because I didn't believe that to be a logical argument as to why it couldn't have taken place.
Be strong Pedes. Stay calm. Don't waver. Don't shy away. Don't ridicule your family, even when they do.
They simply don't understand that what happened here can be done with an extraordinarily small amount of people. In fact, many of the affidavits/complaints point out that most of the cases of vote-flipping and purposeful vote selection, disqualification, etc. are done by sometimes 1 to 2 people. The systems we use to count the votes are so vulnerable and insecure all it takes is a couple people to be corrupt.
This. The hearing yesterday demonstrated very clearly that it only takes one or two people to impact tens of thousands of votes. I'll have to pull that testimony out and post it, so we can put that argument to bed.
and dont forget the useful idiots in the big blue cities they bribed ($650) that were responsible for the physical ballot stuffing. no doubt most did this jubilantly.
These useful-idiot democrats don't even need to be bribed to do the sketchy shit they did. There are hundreds of affidavits stating that poll watchers etc. were bullied, treated unequal, forced far away from actually seeing votes as they're counted, harassment, threats, the list goes on.
The leftist media creates zealot leftists that will go out of their way to "win", bribe not required.
There are hundreds of affidavits stating that poll watchers etc. were bullied, treated unequal, forced far away from actually seeing votes as they're counted, harassment, threats, the list goes on.
exactly, especially in these black districts. They have been convinced that all on the Right are racists.
Yeah, there were a bunch of people who weren't connected. Just doing what they could from their position because orange man bad. There was connected fraud, like the states shutting down at the same time. But there was a lot of little frauds, like voting 3 times, or getting 50 votes from some mental hospital, some blue hair running the same ballots through 50 times.. A bunch of those little ones added up. Then when you collectively look at all of it combined, you get these unrealistic numbers, like 80,000,000 for biden.
There was too much unconnected fraud which exposed all of it connected and unconnected.
Plus all they do is the same as the riots. Call this number we'll get you free, then pay them to go do it.
I have to pick my points wisely cause unfortunately I wish to keep their "support" as family, so as I said... Have to conceal my power level. My argument was basic. "1000s of people would have to be involved and keep it secret" is not a valid argument to why it couldn't have happened. Real basic. Doesn't show what side I'm on, just that it was a faulty argument on their part. The backlash was so intense that clearly, mentioning veritas would lead to explosions. I did however show one of them the video of the usps working explaining how he didn't recant. They believed he did recant. They even told me I was crazy for thinking this guy had 3 hours of an fbi interrogation , that the fbi would have patted him down for wires... The delusion is strong amongst those who are grasping for reality . It became sad, and my empathy kicked in, which is bullshit because I did nothing wrong, But FUCk... They are worried
Their basic argument doesn't even make sense, "Can't happen because thousands would have to be involved and that many people can't keep a secret." Well they didn't keep it a secret, in fact they were caught, thousands of times. Or are they now asserting that thousands of people couldn't conspire to cheat, but thousands of people could conspire to pretend they did? You already pointed out the veritas stuff, where they didn't have to trick anyone to find election fraud, the criminals were openly posting what they were doing to social media.
Basically, you won't win because this is emotional for them. Evidence causes them mental anguish, and makes them upset with you for causing them this pain. The only way out is for them to convince themselves, I haven't found a way to confront them about reality that ends well.
I know. It's rough. It was sad. I'm not in the business of convincing people of things, I learned long ago that's a pointless path... But I wanted them to at least see how their argument was not a real argument. I did mention the 1000s of affidavits, bit they kept saying how all of Trump's cases were thrown out. I responded with , " well I thought those were other people's suits in court" and that " honestly, I haven't been fond of guiliani since 2001". I was seriously trying to just ask why they thought their argument was valid when it's clearly not. I explained the video of Coomer showing how to change a vote with the software... And they went back to, " well, see... He would have had to have 1000s of people take part" I explained how that's a false logic as well. He showed how one person could. Then the argument shifted to the actually physical ballots and how of they faked numbers in the software, how come the physical added up. I said, well they said pa issued 1.4 million mail I'ma but received 2 million. They told me because that hearing wasn't a real court hearing that it's not valid evidence.
It really is too emotional for them.
I told them to buy futures in laughter, cause my God is it coming
I sincerely hope you can break free of their craziness soon. Even if they come to see the light, it's better for you to be independent and free to speak your mind. Let them come to you when they're ready.
Guys, just got in "argument" ( I was just calm asking questions) over how fraud couldn't have happened because 1000s of people would of had to have been in on it. My only argument for the sake of securing my power level, was how that argument is a copout. I just went through 30 minutes of ridicule from my family because I didn't believe that to be a logical argument as to why it couldn't have taken place.
Be strong Pedes. Stay calm. Don't waver. Don't shy away. Don't ridicule your family, even when they do.
They simply don't understand that what happened here can be done with an extraordinarily small amount of people. In fact, many of the affidavits/complaints point out that most of the cases of vote-flipping and purposeful vote selection, disqualification, etc. are done by sometimes 1 to 2 people. The systems we use to count the votes are so vulnerable and insecure all it takes is a couple people to be corrupt.
This. The hearing yesterday demonstrated very clearly that it only takes one or two people to impact tens of thousands of votes. I'll have to pull that testimony out and post it, so we can put that argument to bed.
Testimony- https://streamable.com/u29dre
Source- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSDZkXxFVEU&t=1h6m53s
and dont forget the useful idiots in the big blue cities they bribed ($650) that were responsible for the physical ballot stuffing. no doubt most did this jubilantly.
These useful-idiot democrats don't even need to be bribed to do the sketchy shit they did. There are hundreds of affidavits stating that poll watchers etc. were bullied, treated unequal, forced far away from actually seeing votes as they're counted, harassment, threats, the list goes on.
The leftist media creates zealot leftists that will go out of their way to "win", bribe not required.
the money adds an additional trail
Of course they did, and they did it at all levels. If you had a chance to defeat "literally Hitler", wouldn't you?
exactly, especially in these black districts. They have been convinced that all on the Right are racists.
Those dumb riggers would, with a smile on their face, sell their kids for a few benjamins. They don't care about anything but themselves.
Then they just quote Krebs who the media parroted, "the most secure election in history!"
Yeah, there were a bunch of people who weren't connected. Just doing what they could from their position because orange man bad. There was connected fraud, like the states shutting down at the same time. But there was a lot of little frauds, like voting 3 times, or getting 50 votes from some mental hospital, some blue hair running the same ballots through 50 times.. A bunch of those little ones added up. Then when you collectively look at all of it combined, you get these unrealistic numbers, like 80,000,000 for biden.
There was too much unconnected fraud which exposed all of it connected and unconnected.
Plus all they do is the same as the riots. Call this number we'll get you free, then pay them to go do it.
I have to pick my points wisely cause unfortunately I wish to keep their "support" as family, so as I said... Have to conceal my power level. My argument was basic. "1000s of people would have to be involved and keep it secret" is not a valid argument to why it couldn't have happened. Real basic. Doesn't show what side I'm on, just that it was a faulty argument on their part. The backlash was so intense that clearly, mentioning veritas would lead to explosions. I did however show one of them the video of the usps working explaining how he didn't recant. They believed he did recant. They even told me I was crazy for thinking this guy had 3 hours of an fbi interrogation , that the fbi would have patted him down for wires... The delusion is strong amongst those who are grasping for reality . It became sad, and my empathy kicked in, which is bullshit because I did nothing wrong, But FUCk... They are worried
Their basic argument doesn't even make sense, "Can't happen because thousands would have to be involved and that many people can't keep a secret." Well they didn't keep it a secret, in fact they were caught, thousands of times. Or are they now asserting that thousands of people couldn't conspire to cheat, but thousands of people could conspire to pretend they did? You already pointed out the veritas stuff, where they didn't have to trick anyone to find election fraud, the criminals were openly posting what they were doing to social media.
Basically, you won't win because this is emotional for them. Evidence causes them mental anguish, and makes them upset with you for causing them this pain. The only way out is for them to convince themselves, I haven't found a way to confront them about reality that ends well.
I know. It's rough. It was sad. I'm not in the business of convincing people of things, I learned long ago that's a pointless path... But I wanted them to at least see how their argument was not a real argument. I did mention the 1000s of affidavits, bit they kept saying how all of Trump's cases were thrown out. I responded with , " well I thought those were other people's suits in court" and that " honestly, I haven't been fond of guiliani since 2001". I was seriously trying to just ask why they thought their argument was valid when it's clearly not. I explained the video of Coomer showing how to change a vote with the software... And they went back to, " well, see... He would have had to have 1000s of people take part" I explained how that's a false logic as well. He showed how one person could. Then the argument shifted to the actually physical ballots and how of they faked numbers in the software, how come the physical added up. I said, well they said pa issued 1.4 million mail I'ma but received 2 million. They told me because that hearing wasn't a real court hearing that it's not valid evidence.
It really is too emotional for them.
I told them to buy futures in laughter, cause my God is it coming
My argument ended with
Family member - " oh, so you think our democracy is shit?"
Me - " always has been"
It was postal inspectors, not FBI.
I sincerely hope you can break free of their craziness soon. Even if they come to see the light, it's better for you to be independent and free to speak your mind. Let them come to you when they're ready.
I'm broken free for sure. Own house and family and independent . I just don't wish to destroy my relationship
Point to the complete secrecy regarding the Manhattan project.
Did.
Over 100 million voters in America KNOW rigging happened AND changed the outcome of the elections.
So anyone arguing differently is lying or ignorant, believe me.