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Ultimately, the concept of a level playing field is bullshit anyway. Somehow it's fine to get an insane unfair advantage from your genetics, which you don't even have to pay or work for, but drugs, which still can't fully overcome genetics, and which people can actually acquire, are banned?
That's monarchism man. You are lucky enough to be born a certain way and everyone else can just go fuck themselves? That's unamerican. Everyone should have the opportunity to get to the top, by whatever means they choose to use that don't harm other people.
The top 25 place finishers in his wins also tested positive for EPO. He was the best ever no matter the circumstances. But, I hear he was a peace of shit.
Greg LeMond is the name you should hear a lot more when talking about US cycling. Dude claimed to have never cheated and not only that he won a TdF after his brother-in-law shot him during a hunting accident.
Movie recommendation if you liked any of what you just read, "Slaying the Badger".
I have found, since reading about Lance when I was a child and looking up to him as a role model, that everyone cheats somewhere (even if they didn't mean too). We live in a banana Republic where the ones that get ahead, well they cheat.
As long as there are rules to break, there will be cheating. We need less rules not more. We need more accountability in our elections, that's true, but cheaters are always going to cheat. As we have seen, they used the Covid rules to cheat in the election. The Covid rules are not based on science. The constitution is ignored by tyrannical traitors in government office. Some people keep their businesses open, some don't. Some people had a real need for relief money and used it legally, some people didn't. Some people pay taxes, some people don't. Some people represent their legal fiction when they talk to cops and get fined, some people don't. The reality is that the cohesion that held us together for so long, honesty, hard work and integrity have been replaced with coruption, sloth, and vice.
Solution:
Devote your life to Jesus
Invest in bitcoin
Dig a garden
Clean your rifles
Prepare for war.
We need to go through some rough times before we get strong men again to rebuild what we have lost.
Personally, if sports are entertainment and testing the human body, I don't mind if they use performance enhancers. It's just people doing things that we find entertaining, how many great songs would have never come to fruition if artists weren't high?
I don’t mind if they use performance enhancers either, so long as everyone is allowed to take them if they want. If they aren’t allowed by rule and you take them anyway you are cheating.
Not a sports fan but honestly I would find it more entertaining if they didn't even hide it and the goal was to do just enough so you don't end up killing yourself so everyone was like a freaking beast and records get absolutely smashed.
Reminds me of another American, I forget the name. He was in the Tour de France and way behind on the last day or so. Then POW out of nowhere he ROCKETS to the lead. How? He decided that he would megadose whatever cheating concoction he had. Figured it would be better to win and try not to get caught versus losing and no one caring if you cheated or not.
He even wrote a sob story book and spent chapters blaming the doping on his cancer and pretending he was hard done by and that he'd won solely because of his strong ambition and drive.
He didn't change the results of the races though, nor did he take illegal track shortcuts, install course obstacles, or influence and/or threaten the judges of said races. He cheated yes, but his cheat only affected himself.
They Stole My Fucking Vote Right Off the Ballot and then Replaced it with a FAKE VOTE for My Natural Enemy!
And the guy who pointed out Lance's cheating? American hero Greg Lemond. And Lance and the media ridiculed Greg for years for pointing it out. He even lost his endorsements, was blacklisted by the Tour de France and US cycling.
Guess who is the only American cyclist to have legitimately won the Tour?
Contracted at adidas at the time this happened. A lot of the meeting rooms were named after athletes. I got to be the one to pull his name off the room named after him.
Supported beta o'rourke. I ride and looked up to him for the longest time, but I had to disavow him after that. Mother fucker lives here, but doesn't get what Texas is all about
A cyclist friend once showed me a chart of their times - during that era of doping all the top cyclists were 10% faster than historical norms. After Lance got popped all the times dropped back to historical norms.
I dont call supplementing your testosterone after losing one of your balls to cancer that had also spread to your lungs lymph nodes and brain cheating. Maybe the EPO a little bit but that is like saying taking anti oxidants or beet powder is cheating too.
Also Lance Armstrong, beat all the cheaters, by cheating better! This is the one guy I give credit too. No other cyclist cheater, could keep up. That's commitment!
I dont care about sports and PEDs have been used for decades. Blood doping, roads, gh, whatever.. just shut up and play your sports losers. I remember when we had to spend millions to have congress investigate this
and USPS on his chest each time...
things that make you go hmmmm
Newman!
They all take drugs, and everyone knew it.
I'd support postal carriers doping if it meant the mail was delivered faster.
You mean junk mail? I haven't got an actual letter in years.
Ultimately, the concept of a level playing field is bullshit anyway. Somehow it's fine to get an insane unfair advantage from your genetics, which you don't even have to pay or work for, but drugs, which still can't fully overcome genetics, and which people can actually acquire, are banned?
That's monarchism man. You are lucky enough to be born a certain way and everyone else can just go fuck themselves? That's unamerican. Everyone should have the opportunity to get to the top, by whatever means they choose to use that don't harm other people.
He never failed a test. A former teammate got caught and ratted on him. Turns out the top 4 in all those years were also cheating.
Iron deficiency is impossible these days
The irony is literally palpable
The top 25 place finishers in his wins also tested positive for EPO. He was the best ever no matter the circumstances. But, I hear he was a peace of shit.
Greg LeMond is the name you should hear a lot more when talking about US cycling. Dude claimed to have never cheated and not only that he won a TdF after his brother-in-law shot him during a hunting accident.
Movie recommendation if you liked any of what you just read, "Slaying the Badger".
Is that the one with Kevin Costner?
American Flyers. Classic.
No.
Ah, yeah that's just the only cycling movie I can remember.
Oh, it's a 30 for 30 ESPN episode, that's why I couldn't find it. Will check it out.
But now I have to watch that old Costner cycling movie again.
Breaking Away is a great cycling movie.
It's a 30 for 30 documentary.
Very good.
Cheating must not be tolerated. Period.
The fact that many Americans are not able to grasp this simple moral truth is one of the reasons we find ourselves in this situation.
I have found, since reading about Lance when I was a child and looking up to him as a role model, that everyone cheats somewhere (even if they didn't mean too). We live in a banana Republic where the ones that get ahead, well they cheat.
As long as there are rules to break, there will be cheating. We need less rules not more. We need more accountability in our elections, that's true, but cheaters are always going to cheat. As we have seen, they used the Covid rules to cheat in the election. The Covid rules are not based on science. The constitution is ignored by tyrannical traitors in government office. Some people keep their businesses open, some don't. Some people had a real need for relief money and used it legally, some people didn't. Some people pay taxes, some people don't. Some people represent their legal fiction when they talk to cops and get fined, some people don't. The reality is that the cohesion that held us together for so long, honesty, hard work and integrity have been replaced with coruption, sloth, and vice.
Solution: Devote your life to Jesus Invest in bitcoin Dig a garden Clean your rifles Prepare for war.
We need to go through some rough times before we get strong men again to rebuild what we have lost.
Personally, if sports are entertainment and testing the human body, I don't mind if they use performance enhancers. It's just people doing things that we find entertaining, how many great songs would have never come to fruition if artists weren't high?
I don’t mind if they use performance enhancers either, so long as everyone is allowed to take them if they want. If they aren’t allowed by rule and you take them anyway you are cheating.
Not a sports fan but honestly I would find it more entertaining if they didn't even hide it and the goal was to do just enough so you don't end up killing yourself so everyone was like a freaking beast and records get absolutely smashed.
Begging the question.
I'd say he was the best of his era. I'd go with Eddy Merckx for best ever.
Good Point.
As Bill Burr said, our roided up cheater beat all the other roided up cheaters.
He such a SJW now.
Reminds me of another American, I forget the name. He was in the Tour de France and way behind on the last day or so. Then POW out of nowhere he ROCKETS to the lead. How? He decided that he would megadose whatever cheating concoction he had. Figured it would be better to win and try not to get caught versus losing and no one caring if you cheated or not.
Americans don't like cheaters.
He even wrote a sob story book and spent chapters blaming the doping on his cancer and pretending he was hard done by and that he'd won solely because of his strong ambition and drive.
These people and their methods are all the same.
It took a lot of balls to do what Lance Armstrong did.
😂
He didn't change the results of the races though, nor did he take illegal track shortcuts, install course obstacles, or influence and/or threaten the judges of said races. He cheated yes, but his cheat only affected himself.
They Stole My Fucking Vote Right Off the Ballot and then Replaced it with a FAKE VOTE for My Natural Enemy!
Big Difference!
Yeah, everyone knew he cheated because they were all using the same mobile PED buses to get doped up on all the same drugs.
Know how I know all the males here are better than Lance? We've all got the same number of tour de france medals as him and twice the balls.
Bicycle peddler is trash.
Will always be trash.
I say let athletes juice. I liked watching baseball when they were crushing 60 hr’s a year.
I made this same point earlier.
And the guy who pointed out Lance's cheating? American hero Greg Lemond. And Lance and the media ridiculed Greg for years for pointing it out. He even lost his endorsements, was blacklisted by the Tour de France and US cycling.
Guess who is the only American cyclist to have legitimately won the Tour?
Greg Lemond.
The Office of the Tour De France winner Elect
Really warms my heart. Thanks for the reminder. If I recall it was an international doping scandal correct ?
The Tour de France is traditionally held in France.
But like the Dakar Rally, terrorism will probably drive it to another continent.
TheReligionofpeace.com
Just imagine how many legitimate "2nd place" athlete careers he ended by being a massive fucking cheater.
If we're being honest, the only legitimate athletes were probably riding in 15th place and beyond.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2292248/Lance-Armstrong-Im-like-Bill-Clinton-people-forgive-me.html
Contracted at adidas at the time this happened. A lot of the meeting rooms were named after athletes. I got to be the one to pull his name off the room named after him.
ZERO PERSONAL ETHICS. that is who we are fighting. Know your enemy
Good analogy to what's going on now. But let's be honest. He cheated and so did the top 15 other racers.
So he won a bunch of races against other cheaters ... He was the best cheater.
Guys, watch tour de pharmacy. It's amazing.
... was nice to see a Texan stick it to those arrogant Frenchmen though tbh.
photoshop biden's face
He also has TDS. There seems to be a strong correlation between cheating and TDS.
He took his ball and went home
Inflategate got more attention than Biden cheating.
lefty lance, Ace Armstrong, lance halfsack
And he's a DemocRat.
Supported beta o'rourke. I ride and looked up to him for the longest time, but I had to disavow him after that. Mother fucker lives here, but doesn't get what Texas is all about
Eh. Not the same thing. He still rode the fucking bike and kicked ass against all the other dopers(they all do it).
He didn't get towed across the finish line by a car labeled "DEEP STATE".
Going half-sack wasn’t enough.
Wondering how long people in the racing community knew he was cheating before they took action?
Fact: everyone was doing it.
Lance got attacked and singled out.
Sounds like every democratic president back to the days of JFK, and probably further.
So when are we taking the 'Stros 2017 and giving it to the Dodgers
LIVE WRONG
Is it really cheating though if the top 50 cyclists are "cheating"?
A cyclist friend once showed me a chart of their times - during that era of doping all the top cyclists were 10% faster than historical norms. After Lance got popped all the times dropped back to historical norms.
I dont call supplementing your testosterone after losing one of your balls to cancer that had also spread to your lungs lymph nodes and brain cheating. Maybe the EPO a little bit but that is like saying taking anti oxidants or beet powder is cheating too.
Sorry, I am still sort of a Lance fan. He made me love cycling. Also, made me hate cycling.
great point. Cheating mother fucker
Also Lance Armstrong, beat all the cheaters, by cheating better! This is the one guy I give credit too. No other cyclist cheater, could keep up. That's commitment!
I dont care about sports and PEDs have been used for decades. Blood doping, roads, gh, whatever.. just shut up and play your sports losers. I remember when we had to spend millions to have congress investigate this
Bidets performance enhancing voter fraud will not stand.
Fuck Lance. And fuck Trek bicycles.
To be fair, every single cycling pro cheats. Literally; every single one.