Hillary called her a Russian agent, the DNC sought to destroy her, she abstained from voting on impeachment. So in my view, seeing how much the establishment fucking hates her, she’s my kind of Democrat if there is such a thing.
I’m a hard liner on 2A, so I disagree with her in general, but this is the only (admittedly huge) place where I’ve found her to be overtly anti-liberty. However she also voted AGAINST the DC handgun ban. I think she’s wrong, objectively, but I think she’s wrong for the right reasons if that makes sense. As in she’s shot plenty of guns and takes them seriously.
Don’t forget to keep allies. She’s the type of democrat I hope to see rebuild their party into a rational cohesive actually liberal (not authoritarian not leftist) organization after we tear it apart.
She pushed the Russia hoax. She is a gun grabber. She wants socialist healthcare. She isnt calling out election fraud. She prefers Joe Biden and Kamala Harris over Donald Trump and Mike Pence.
We need the Scotus to hear those 2A cases. The ATF is literally (right this moment) issuing letters banning Ar15 accessories after the Biden team sent them requests to start tightening up the rules.
The ATF should have been disbanded years ago. It was one of Trumps biggest failures imo. At this point the only chance we have is for the court to gut the laws because congress isnt going to repeal gun bans ever again after the Vegas false flag.
I see what you are saying, but if you felt like your nation was so corrupt that it was willing to spy on every American citizen and would most certainly throw you to the wolves once they realize you revealed it and paint you as a traitor to the public, why wouldn't YOU leave so you could continue to speak out and have a platform until the country you love comes to its senses and realizes it was wrong and can understand why you did what you did and accept your return?
He was going at this war alone against the most powerful nation in the history of the earth....if he stayed, he risked being silenced and as we know, possibly being killed. Sure, he could have stayed and been a martyr, but soon lost to time and possibly forgotten entirely, and the overreaches would continue largely un-noticed with Snowden's revelations relegated to conspiracy theory types bringing them up in small circles. He bet that if was able to maintain a voice elsewhere, over time his actions would be understood by most Americans who could then join him in his efforts to expose the wrongs thereby making his efforts larger and stronger and therefore less likely to die a quiet death at the hands of time and eventually could return to the country he loves with a government that has been held accountable by not just him but the public at large.
Technically they did run to “America” to regroup, form an army and fight. I get what you’re saying though. But to the best of my knowledge it’s not like Snowden has been working with out enemy to damage us, only seeking refuge. Isn’t it time we “tagged him back” into the fight? I guess I just don’t see the point in him having to needlessly die when it would have changed nothing.
Thank you for taking the time to explain all that. We agree on more than I thought we would. I think following the course of action you described would've made him even more of a hero, but considering the virtual certainty and magnitude of the
railroading you mentioned, I can sympathize with path he chose. Now if he'd gone to Russia to work with them against the U.S. rather than just to hide, I'd see it differently. Either way, thanks again, I appreciate your time.
AGREE FIRING SQUAD FOR SNOWDEN, however he was not just a "lowly" systems admin" but a self proclaimed "computer wizard". He dropped out of Cyber Operations Special Forces school and was employed as a high-level security clearance guard at University of Maryland (CASL) a NSA covert facility.
Worked for the CIA considered the top technical and cybersecurity expert in Switzerland (WHERE HE WAS LIKELY CONTACTED BY RUSSIAN GRU AGENT AND TURNED DOUBLE-AGENT)
Worked for DELL. Assigned to an NSA facility at Yokota Air Base. Instructed top officials and military officers on how to defend their networks from Chinese hackers. During his four years with Dell, he rose from supervising NSA computer system upgrades to working as what his résumé termed a "cyberstrategist" and an "expert in cyber counterintelligence" at several U.S. locations. He spent a year as lead technologist on Dell's CIA account.
Investigators estimated that of the 50,000 to 200,000 documents Snowden gave to Greenwald and Poitras, most were copied by Snowden while working at Dell. Snowden said he took a pay cut to work at consulting firm Booz Allen Hamilton, where he sought employment in order to gather data and then release details of the NSA's worldwide surveillance activity.
What are the legal ramifications involving Assange? He's locked up in the UK and he hasn't been actually charged with anything in the US? I'm not sure. Anyone have the cold facts on all three, Assange, Snowdon, and Manning.
He should have pardoned them both when he was first sworn in.
He should tell Tulsi to first switch parties. (Not to Republican....)
He should tell her to pound sand. Dirty communist.
If she thinks Biden won, why isnt she asking him to do it?
Please don't tell our President what to do, Commie-Mommy.
Brilliant point!
She’s not a commie mommy
Hillary called her a Russian agent, the DNC sought to destroy her, she abstained from voting on impeachment. So in my view, seeing how much the establishment fucking hates her, she’s my kind of Democrat if there is such a thing.
I’m a hard liner on 2A, so I disagree with her in general, but this is the only (admittedly huge) place where I’ve found her to be overtly anti-liberty. However she also voted AGAINST the DC handgun ban. I think she’s wrong, objectively, but I think she’s wrong for the right reasons if that makes sense. As in she’s shot plenty of guns and takes them seriously.
Don’t forget to keep allies. She’s the type of democrat I hope to see rebuild their party into a rational cohesive actually liberal (not authoritarian not leftist) organization after we tear it apart.
She pushed the Russia hoax. She is a gun grabber. She wants socialist healthcare. She isnt calling out election fraud. She prefers Joe Biden and Kamala Harris over Donald Trump and Mike Pence.
She is a commie in yoga pants.
Don’t forget She hangs with antifa
She has no power in that party. She exists to pull people who'd be on our side over to theirs.
I wonder when Tulsi will wake up to the fact that she is actually a conservative.
she is an anti gunner
We need the Scotus to hear those 2A cases. The ATF is literally (right this moment) issuing letters banning Ar15 accessories after the Biden team sent them requests to start tightening up the rules.
The ATF should have been disbanded years ago. It was one of Trumps biggest failures imo. At this point the only chance we have is for the court to gut the laws because congress isnt going to repeal gun bans ever again after the Vegas false flag.
They will, that’s a high priority
One of two things will happen:
Trump will be proven the winner and serve a second term and immediately begin to dismantle corrupt bureaucracies
It’s 1776 and we will begin to dismantle corrupt bureaucracies, most likely starting with the ATF
That should have happened on 2016, I doubt people will actually do anything other than celebrate after court wins. Unless the left starts something.
She's. A. Gun. Grabber.
She's also open borders.
The only good things she did was verbally slap the shit out of Cameltoe and say we should bring home troops. That's it.
Yep. Even on the few positions she sounds good on, she's all talk. Same old neoliberal bs in a... decent looking package, I guess
She voted against the DC handgun ban, against the party
I’m a hard liner on 2A
She’s a politician, not a revolutionary, and in the land of politicians she’s one of the better ones.
We will probably need her help one day soon and she will need ours.
She’s the type of person that actually could do some outreach to the other side when this is over.
Why? I tend to agree with a pardon for both, but would be interested to read your reasoning.
I see what you are saying, but if you felt like your nation was so corrupt that it was willing to spy on every American citizen and would most certainly throw you to the wolves once they realize you revealed it and paint you as a traitor to the public, why wouldn't YOU leave so you could continue to speak out and have a platform until the country you love comes to its senses and realizes it was wrong and can understand why you did what you did and accept your return?
He was going at this war alone against the most powerful nation in the history of the earth....if he stayed, he risked being silenced and as we know, possibly being killed. Sure, he could have stayed and been a martyr, but soon lost to time and possibly forgotten entirely, and the overreaches would continue largely un-noticed with Snowden's revelations relegated to conspiracy theory types bringing them up in small circles. He bet that if was able to maintain a voice elsewhere, over time his actions would be understood by most Americans who could then join him in his efforts to expose the wrongs thereby making his efforts larger and stronger and therefore less likely to die a quiet death at the hands of time and eventually could return to the country he loves with a government that has been held accountable by not just him but the public at large.
Let’s be real, Obama would have sent Snowden to Gitmo to be tortured to death. I can forgive him for running.
Technically they did run to “America” to regroup, form an army and fight. I get what you’re saying though. But to the best of my knowledge it’s not like Snowden has been working with out enemy to damage us, only seeking refuge. Isn’t it time we “tagged him back” into the fight? I guess I just don’t see the point in him having to needlessly die when it would have changed nothing.
Exactly
Plus he wouldn’t have been around to CORROBORATE THE FUCKING STORY AND PUT A FACE ON IT
I swear some of you new guys have no sense of strategy, and it’s worrying
Thank you for taking the time to explain all that. We agree on more than I thought we would. I think following the course of action you described would've made him even more of a hero, but considering the virtual certainty and magnitude of the railroading you mentioned, I can sympathize with path he chose. Now if he'd gone to Russia to work with them against the U.S. rather than just to hide, I'd see it differently. Either way, thanks again, I appreciate your time.
edit: PS I'm not the downvote.
AGREE FIRING SQUAD FOR SNOWDEN, however he was not just a "lowly" systems admin" but a self proclaimed "computer wizard". He dropped out of Cyber Operations Special Forces school and was employed as a high-level security clearance guard at University of Maryland (CASL) a NSA covert facility.
Worked for the CIA considered the top technical and cybersecurity expert in Switzerland (WHERE HE WAS LIKELY CONTACTED BY RUSSIAN GRU AGENT AND TURNED DOUBLE-AGENT)
Worked for DELL. Assigned to an NSA facility at Yokota Air Base. Instructed top officials and military officers on how to defend their networks from Chinese hackers. During his four years with Dell, he rose from supervising NSA computer system upgrades to working as what his résumé termed a "cyberstrategist" and an "expert in cyber counterintelligence" at several U.S. locations. He spent a year as lead technologist on Dell's CIA account.
Investigators estimated that of the 50,000 to 200,000 documents Snowden gave to Greenwald and Poitras, most were copied by Snowden while working at Dell. Snowden said he took a pay cut to work at consulting firm Booz Allen Hamilton, where he sought employment in order to gather data and then release details of the NSA's worldwide surveillance activity.
Tulsi saying it makes me almost not want to do it. He still should, but Tulsi is a snake.
Assange yes Snowden No.
Snowden is most likely fulfilling his role - he wen’t from CIA to NSA - plus he had a Hollywood movie made about him. Those are Deep State indicators.
Why do you suppose pardoning Chelsea Manning?
I agree. He could be a great asset.
What are the legal ramifications involving Assange? He's locked up in the UK and he hasn't been actually charged with anything in the US? I'm not sure. Anyone have the cold facts on all three, Assange, Snowdon, and Manning.
SURE .. YOU GET OUT OF THE DEMOCRAT PARTY TOO
Trump doesn't like Snowden too much. He called Snowden a disgrace.
She can stfu she’s a dem sellout who had a chance to speak against joe Biden instead she endorsed him.
Yea that needs to happen ASAP
This is not tulsi.win. She may be right, she IS the enemy.
Hoss - He should pardon Hillary, to make the Al Smith dinner prophecy come true.
Tulsi is part of Soros baby nu-politicians, stop posting about her.
K. She's still a globalist.
She's close to being red pilled Noem should taker her to a bike rally an shoot some guns