Yeah but it’s blown way out of proportion to further a political agenda much in the same way covid is. Sure some people die from covid, but the overwhelming majority do not. It’s kinda like that. Have you looked at Saudi Arabia’s crime rates? They’re insanely low.
“The male guardianship system not only directly affects a woman’s ability to report the crime to the police and file a court case without the permission of a male guardian, but it also relies on an underpinning idea of women’s obedience that is often in conflict with the possibility of combatting domestic violence, including marital rape.”
Lack of crime rate isn’t evidence that violence isn't occurring esp where women are concerned.
You looked at one type of crime, tried to justify why it’s low rate should be ignored, and then generalized that justification to mean all crimes in the country are higher than they actually are. It doesn’t work that way. If they have low crime rates in EVERY category, you can’t just dismiss this. They happen to have low crime rates in every category yet apparently rape is sky-high in spite of the low rate simply because gender roles actually exist over there. I’m sorry but that logic isn’t sound.
You looked at one person’s account of being jailed, tortured and lashed for not wearing a hijab and discounted because of your mother’s personal account. Then, when I countered with actual reports of the same type of incident, you bizarrely made an argument about low crime rates as an example the dispute the veracity of this woman’s claim. My counter argument was to demonstrate that crime - an example of which is rape - can be prevalent in a country with virtually no crimes of rape reported. The main issue is that you cannot discount this particular woman’s experience based on another woman’s experience (your mother) or based on crime rates.
Just because your mom didn’t experience it doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.
Yeah but it’s blown way out of proportion to further a political agenda much in the same way covid is. Sure some people die from covid, but the overwhelming majority do not. It’s kinda like that. Have you looked at Saudi Arabia’s crime rates? They’re insanely low.
Not too many women reporting rapes in SA.
“The male guardianship system not only directly affects a woman’s ability to report the crime to the police and file a court case without the permission of a male guardian, but it also relies on an underpinning idea of women’s obedience that is often in conflict with the possibility of combatting domestic violence, including marital rape.”
Lack of crime rate isn’t evidence that violence isn't occurring esp where women are concerned.
You looked at one type of crime, tried to justify why it’s low rate should be ignored, and then generalized that justification to mean all crimes in the country are higher than they actually are. It doesn’t work that way. If they have low crime rates in EVERY category, you can’t just dismiss this. They happen to have low crime rates in every category yet apparently rape is sky-high in spite of the low rate simply because gender roles actually exist over there. I’m sorry but that logic isn’t sound.
You looked at one person’s account of being jailed, tortured and lashed for not wearing a hijab and discounted because of your mother’s personal account. Then, when I countered with actual reports of the same type of incident, you bizarrely made an argument about low crime rates as an example the dispute the veracity of this woman’s claim. My counter argument was to demonstrate that crime - an example of which is rape - can be prevalent in a country with virtually no crimes of rape reported. The main issue is that you cannot discount this particular woman’s experience based on another woman’s experience (your mother) or based on crime rates.