No that you mention it, I remember some drivers having a smoke while driving us, and the teacher's lounge always smelled like cigarettes. It was all cool because people weren't faggots back then.
I remember in grade school it was just like The Simpson's, the teacher's lounge door would open and smoke would billow out. Big farm women hand kneaded the bread for our rolls in our school lunches, and all the leftovers were scraped into bins one of the lunch women took home to her pigs. I would not give the garbage they feed kids today to pigs
Yeah, nothing says freedom like smelling like shit and breathing in people’s second hand smoke. Come on. Smoking sections were probably the one thing in this post we should have taken out of schools. The tobacco industry was selling lies to make money just like the global warming industry does today. If you can’t step outside for 5 minutes to have a smoke maybe you’re the faggot.
Oh, but it is freedom. You may not like it, but it is another measure of freedom. "Smelling like shit" when referring to cigarette/cigar smoke is a subjective comment, not a valid argument to suppress. If that's the case, the a**hole who heated up their fish in the microwave of the breakroom lounge should be hanged.
I understand the infringement argument as regards smoking, but when you're not literally breathing in that second-hand smoke, or you're not stuck in a place or situation where you cannot reasonably escape it, is one thing... otherwise... meh.
I don't smoke, and never have besides a few celebratory cigars over-the-years, and I too dislike the smell of tobacco smoke, and am quite well-aware of the societal impact, and the industry's indefensible defense of their product. Still, the fredom to use tobacco should remain just that.
Related:
We should be as free as is possible as long as that freedom doesn't injure others. The old saw, "your freedom ends at the tip of my nose". And I would extend that to mean that if you eat until you're fat and that leads to complications, or smoke, or drink and they result in similarly provable related health issues, I don't want to pay for your care with my taxes. You dug your grave, now go lay in it. That said, if your health condition is one from birth, or is a chronic disease, or developed "naturally" (ie through no direct purposeful fault of your own) then I think as a citizen, it's my duty to help out.
That's the real rub IMO, is fellow citizens having to pick up the tab for the reckless, feckless, and stupid.
To the OP:
Oh, and to repond the OP's comment...2020... Hunter Ed (in my corner of) New Hampshire. Live fire on-the-range (bolt-action .22s, 10 shots per student on paper targets), working rifles and shotguns handled in the classroom, handling of usually ten to fifteen different firearms, and demonstration burn of black powder (okay... Pyrodex or similar) versus gunpowder during the primitive arms section.
It takes full inhales of only smoke 100 times a day for over a decade to cause the repeated damage that causes cancer. Inhaling some tiny amount of dispersed smoke in the air after someone else has already inhaled it is probably on par with being near a campfire.
People should all quit smoking and stay clean. It’s a self-degenerating habit that will kill you. The Mormons got this shit right. No substance abuse leads to stability and longevity. Also, less birth defects.
This is largely true (small amounts of alcohol consumption can be beneficial, physically and socially, small amounts), however, you don't get to decide for other people how they live their lives. Neither does anyone else.
Smoking is bad for a smoker's health over decades of daily use. Breathing in disseminated smoke that has already passed through a person's lungs is not dangerous and never has been.
But I'll be the parties who spent billions spent on anti-smoking propaganda are jazzed you gobbled it up.
That's the one thing Im very glad they got rid of are smoking sections. Ciggarettes smelled like crap and I dont like getting lung cancer from some faggot's second hand smoke!
We should just go the extra mile and ban all forms of cigarrettes and cigars. At least vaping is orderless most of the time and safe for second-handers.
I hate smoke and somehow miss the freedom anyway. I had an employee who smoked and I would go out to chat with him during his smoke breaks. We are still good friends
I could live without the clouds of smoke in Greyhound Buses and airplanes. That I do not miss at all, but why anyone would object to vaping I do not understand. It just does not affect me
Vaping was attacked because Big Tobacco was losing money hand over fist. I could write a book about it. I finally quit smoking for good 6 years ago this month through vaping, and as part of the process I dug into the whole thing, and have watched the bullshit over vaping happen. It's disgusting. It's filthy. It's over money, like everything else these days.
Vaping is completely safe and like the Russia collusion where like $100 grand was spent on facebook ads in total, there was like one batch of chinese thc vape sticks that had bad shit in them and now they say "vaping can introduce harmful metals" etc as if all vape juice has fucking metal in it. No, it's sugar water and nicotine. Neither is dangerous to vape.
Your right, it’s always about money. They don’t care about anyone’s health, it’s just excuses. I’ve been vaping for 9 yrs. I had to quit smoking because the gov jacked the prices up so much that I couldn’t afford it. Pisses me off that they did that, slimy bastards to pull stuff like that on we the people. However, I like my vaping and will fight for my right to keep enjoying it.
Hell yeah! Lord of the Flies. And where I grew up half the guys I knew had a rifle rack in their pickup truck. Nobody ever shot anyone though I did see a hachet pulled on someone at a kegger. Good times good times
I graduated in 82 and remember all of the guys out in the parking lot after Christmas break. We were all checking out what each had been given for Christmas. Shotguns, hunting rifles, and handguns. The Principle walked over and pulled his out and joined in.
Like you, we had fights on school property, every truck had at least a shotgun/hunting rifle and not once did anyone go for one or even threaten it.
We all hunted and knew what it was like to take life. We all knew the finality of what firearms brought to the table, and the value of life in general, much less human life.
Graduated in Wyoming a "few" years ago and we had pickup trucks with gun racks and long guns in the parking lot every day. Never had any problems other than the typical high school prank BS. Funny there was a time in here in our country where everybody had guns and we were actually safer.
We read Animal Farm, we had a class where kids could get hunting licenses (no actual guns in class), no smoking areas, but we did learn the horrors of socialism. This was Texas. Most of the Democrats I know in Texas say Democratic socialism isn't real socialism..... which is how they reconcile the fact that socialism is bad, yet they insist on voting for Democratic socialists.
Yes, the Democrats like to claim that "Democratic Socialism" is something new and better, where socialism is voted in by the people, as if socialists have never been elected into power before. In reality, socialists have long used democracy to take power, and the results are the same horrible shit as socialism enacted by coup or revolution.
I live in Utah now and in my school district anyone with a permit can concealed carry in any school. The only rule is they have to keep the gun on their person at all times. Zero shootings in that district.
Ah, yes. The lovely days pre- CERN. President Trump is here from the future to fix the rip in the spacetime continuum created by finding the God Particle. Just keep your seat belt fastened when you aren't moving around. Things should be resolved either in his second or third term.
I thought that Barron was the time traveler. Sadly, he outgrew the dimensions of the time machine cabinet. I guess the task now falls exclusively on the shoulders of John Titor.
Wait, so they actually did fuck things up? little high school pede me haaaated that they were "atom smashing" even back then. The media's concerns were of a black hole being opened. I was like "okay, if that's even a remote possibility, who the fuck do they think they are risking that? I'm on this planet too!"
Poppycock! Pernicious nonsense! It was a tiny blackhole that barely even shifted anything in our dimension or time. Tell that smarty pants to mind his own damn business!
1985 grad here too. I had the extra red pill of graduating at an air base in what was then West Germany during the Cold War. I've seen what communism looks like up close.
I lived and worked in Switzerland '83 to '85 and of course had friends from the east block. People have no clue. We need to fight for our freedoms and country.
I remember taking the train from W Germany to E Germany, and once you crossed the border everything turned grey. The buildings, the air, everything. When I think of communism, that's what I think of.
86 here! We grew up in the BEST OF TIMES! These poor kids today don't know what a REAL CHILDHOOD and TEENHOOD is all about. My nephew 13 has been crying abput climate change since he is 8! These public school commies ruined these kids childhood!
Oh yeah, acid rain was legit, we scrubbed the gases coming out of coal plants and ended it. In Vermont there were yellow lines at the bottom of the snow as it melted from acid rain and huge forests in Bavaria were dying from the East German pollution. They are all 100% healed now because the earth recovers fast. It took the fall of the Soviet Union to get that air clean. Hmmmm. The Ozone layer hole I think was total bunk.
I remember that! Grew up in MT and graduated in 90. There were always rifles in the rear window racks of trucks in the HS parking lot. No one ever thought a thing of it.
88' We would take long lunch breaks (had to cut a few classes) to rabbit hunt and shoot a few prairie dogs. Incidentally this was in the lefty paradise (was not quite as bad back then) of Boulder CO.
Kind of funny also, the school security guard would have a beer or two with us in the parking lot, but would bust others (the commie kids). ;)
Oh very cool. Yeah, you are exactly right with the trust fund hippy kids. I was at Boulder High, the lesser of the two schools and at that time it was considered the a slum school compared to Fairview, but I found it humorous that despite the school's rep, there were still so many ultra wealthy trust fund kids heh.
i was born in 90. i have read both 1984 an animal farm an know the horrors of communism an socialism . im still in universe. they will never beat me down.
I had to read a lot of dystopian novels in high school: 1984, Brave New World, Animal Farm, Fahrenheit 451. We even read Dante's Inferno. Thankfully my teachers weren't communist activists.
I heard stories and saw the smoking square that we were never allowed to use. We were forced to head off campus to hide in shame they tracked us like escaped convicts with campus supervisors in golf carts.
My junior year in HS is when the school no longer allowed the students who hunted befor to keep their guns in their cars during the school day. They put the policy in place, then made a big deal out of some kid who forgot one day.
What a complete joke, my father went to the same school, and my grandfather taught there, never an incident.
Even in the early 2000's, many schools still taught Orwell in English classes. The past 15-20 years have been awful in our schools, especially the public schools.
I graduated in 1993. I remember - in Long Island - carving with our cub scout swiss army knives. I remember the principal popping in to chat with the scout leader while we were "whittling" some wood into blocks. He was more worried about us sweeping up the shavings. Sometime in the late 80s.
Class of 2007 here and we read both of those, Lord Of The Flies and Brave New World. We didn’t have shooting classes but we at least still had archery. I for one am glad there wasn’t a smoking section in the school, though. That was one thing society got right. We did just fine sneaking a smoke in the bathroom or on the corner across the street.
I graduated in 1970, My Jr and senior years I had a pack a smokes in my pocket, a pocket knife in my levis jeans pocket, rifle and a 12 gauge shotgun in the gun rack in the rear window of my 1967 Chevy Pickup in the school parking lot. No issues what so ever. If you said FUCK or any other curse word directed to a teacher it was automatic 5 day suspension, period no argument.
Talk about times have changed, good god all mighty. You draw a picture of a pistol on paper at school and they call the fucking cops.
Key things have totally fucked up public education, Lack of engaged parents, Computers, cell phones, The US Federal Government, teachers unions, no civics classes, no Americanism vs Communism classes and general education has lost all common sense about anything. Just to name a few.
I graduated in 2003 and we had all of that except smoking areas. I feel similar to you. How did millenials allow their children to be brainwashed this badly?
I'm a year behind you. One of our summer reading book options in the late 80s? Trump's The Art of the Deal. (Also happens to be one I chose. I don't even remember the other one.)
Yep. Grew up rural. Trucks in HS parking lots with gun racks in the rear windows. During winter, us kids rushing out to get a quick bird or deer hunt in at last light after basketball practice. Families talking about everyone's day together at dinner instead of knowing everything instantly via text barrages or social media posts.
We had a riflery class and a range in the basement of the high school. We shot .22s. We were not indoctrinated like they tried but failed with my children. Oh sure, the history and economics textbooks I had had a dem/prog bias to them, subtle but actually quite strong, but that was it.
In just a few decades they have turned the indoctrination from subtle to loud and obvious af.
I had more freedom when I was 10 years old than I do at 46. In the 80s my parents went to work, and at 9am I went(by myself) to swim lessons, and froze my butt off might I add....but survived without needing a therapist, social worker or a psychologist to diagnose me with some trauma later in life. I then rode my bike home without a helmet or any other form of battle gear. I played with my friends outside all day and night, but as soon as one parent hollered out the front door, it was like a damn fire drill to get home.
If you didn't show up when the street lights came on, the phone a parent began until they found your ass. I also rode in the back of pick up truck, learned to shoot a handgun at 10 and drive a stick at 14, didn't wear a seat belt and drank from the water hose in the summer and I am still alive. I don't have, cancer a mental illness or anxiety. I love my country and respect everyone who fights for what this country was founded on....FREEDOM!
Rant over!
I grew up in the 90's and things were still much the same as you. Parents didn't want you hanging around the house. I spent the whole day independently and was just fine.
No that you mention it, I remember some drivers having a smoke while driving us, and the teacher's lounge always smelled like cigarettes. It was all cool because people weren't faggots back then.
I remember in grade school it was just like The Simpson's, the teacher's lounge door would open and smoke would billow out. Big farm women hand kneaded the bread for our rolls in our school lunches, and all the leftovers were scraped into bins one of the lunch women took home to her pigs. I would not give the garbage they feed kids today to pigs
" Hey German boy, Go back go Germania !" -Nelson muntz
Yeah, nothing says freedom like smelling like shit and breathing in people’s second hand smoke. Come on. Smoking sections were probably the one thing in this post we should have taken out of schools. The tobacco industry was selling lies to make money just like the global warming industry does today. If you can’t step outside for 5 minutes to have a smoke maybe you’re the faggot.
That would make them a fag smoking faggot.
Name checks out
Oh, but it is freedom. You may not like it, but it is another measure of freedom. "Smelling like shit" when referring to cigarette/cigar smoke is a subjective comment, not a valid argument to suppress. If that's the case, the a**hole who heated up their fish in the microwave of the breakroom lounge should be hanged.
I understand the infringement argument as regards smoking, but when you're not literally breathing in that second-hand smoke, or you're not stuck in a place or situation where you cannot reasonably escape it, is one thing... otherwise... meh.
I don't smoke, and never have besides a few celebratory cigars over-the-years, and I too dislike the smell of tobacco smoke, and am quite well-aware of the societal impact, and the industry's indefensible defense of their product. Still, the fredom to use tobacco should remain just that.
Related: We should be as free as is possible as long as that freedom doesn't injure others. The old saw, "your freedom ends at the tip of my nose". And I would extend that to mean that if you eat until you're fat and that leads to complications, or smoke, or drink and they result in similarly provable related health issues, I don't want to pay for your care with my taxes. You dug your grave, now go lay in it. That said, if your health condition is one from birth, or is a chronic disease, or developed "naturally" (ie through no direct purposeful fault of your own) then I think as a citizen, it's my duty to help out.
That's the real rub IMO, is fellow citizens having to pick up the tab for the reckless, feckless, and stupid.
To the OP: Oh, and to repond the OP's comment...2020... Hunter Ed (in my corner of) New Hampshire. Live fire on-the-range (bolt-action .22s, 10 shots per student on paper targets), working rifles and shotguns handled in the classroom, handling of usually ten to fifteen different firearms, and demonstration burn of black powder (okay... Pyrodex or similar) versus gunpowder during the primitive arms section.
Our smoking areas were outside, except the teacher's lounges
Hey everybody this guy believes in second-hand smoke
Second hand smoke does exist. It just isn't executing children like the health nuts/conspiracy theorists would have you believe.
It takes full inhales of only smoke 100 times a day for over a decade to cause the repeated damage that causes cancer. Inhaling some tiny amount of dispersed smoke in the air after someone else has already inhaled it is probably on par with being near a campfire.
Probably right. Would rather my kids not inhale smoke of any kind. Won't force someone to not smoke, would rather keep my kids away from it.
Exactly. Don't encroach on personal liberties with made-up crises, it's the same as the mask hysteria. Tell a big enough lie.
People should all quit smoking and stay clean. It’s a self-degenerating habit that will kill you. The Mormons got this shit right. No substance abuse leads to stability and longevity. Also, less birth defects.
This is largely true (small amounts of alcohol consumption can be beneficial, physically and socially, small amounts), however, you don't get to decide for other people how they live their lives. Neither does anyone else.
The establishment disagrees, of course.
For fucks sake. .win is becoming more and more like voat these days.
Concern trolling, I have bingo!
Are we really rallying around smoking not being bad for people’s health now?
Smoking is bad for a smoker's health over decades of daily use. Breathing in disseminated smoke that has already passed through a person's lungs is not dangerous and never has been.
But I'll be the parties who spent billions spent on anti-smoking propaganda are jazzed you gobbled it up.
That's the one thing Im very glad they got rid of are smoking sections. Ciggarettes smelled like crap and I dont like getting lung cancer from some faggot's second hand smoke!
We should just go the extra mile and ban all forms of cigarrettes and cigars. At least vaping is orderless most of the time and safe for second-handers.
Stop trying to take away our freedoms, alling for ban on inanimate objects.
I'll take freedom and second hand smoke over that bullshit any day.
Sincerely, and ex smoker.
Ex smoker here and completely agree with you.
Even when i smoked, I hated smoking in restaurants. I do not miss that.
Bars...especially with live music...miss it.
I hate smoke and somehow miss the freedom anyway. I had an employee who smoked and I would go out to chat with him during his smoke breaks. We are still good friends
Congrats you've created a black market.
I could live without the clouds of smoke in Greyhound Buses and airplanes. That I do not miss at all, but why anyone would object to vaping I do not understand. It just does not affect me
Vaping was attacked because Big Tobacco was losing money hand over fist. I could write a book about it. I finally quit smoking for good 6 years ago this month through vaping, and as part of the process I dug into the whole thing, and have watched the bullshit over vaping happen. It's disgusting. It's filthy. It's over money, like everything else these days.
Vaping is completely safe and like the Russia collusion where like $100 grand was spent on facebook ads in total, there was like one batch of chinese thc vape sticks that had bad shit in them and now they say "vaping can introduce harmful metals" etc as if all vape juice has fucking metal in it. No, it's sugar water and nicotine. Neither is dangerous to vape.
Your right, it’s always about money. They don’t care about anyone’s health, it’s just excuses. I’ve been vaping for 9 yrs. I had to quit smoking because the gov jacked the prices up so much that I couldn’t afford it. Pisses me off that they did that, slimy bastards to pull stuff like that on we the people. However, I like my vaping and will fight for my right to keep enjoying it.
We need abortion because there are too many people!
We need seatbelt laws be...cause... there are not enough people....
I also graduated in 89. I remember half the guys had chew cups sitting on their desks, and no one cared, as long as they didn't make a mess.
Our bus driver would take vote for allowing smoking on bus. It always passed 'yes". Windows down and have at it!
Hell yeah! Lord of the Flies. And where I grew up half the guys I knew had a rifle rack in their pickup truck. Nobody ever shot anyone though I did see a hachet pulled on someone at a kegger. Good times good times
Yeah. Guns in truck windows and somehow no one got shot when a fistfight would break out.
I graduated in 82 and remember all of the guys out in the parking lot after Christmas break. We were all checking out what each had been given for Christmas. Shotguns, hunting rifles, and handguns. The Principle walked over and pulled his out and joined in.
Like you, we had fights on school property, every truck had at least a shotgun/hunting rifle and not once did anyone go for one or even threaten it.
We all hunted and knew what it was like to take life. We all knew the finality of what firearms brought to the table, and the value of life in general, much less human life.
🤣 '91 Graduate here! I was telling my (very based )kids the other day how much I miss the 80's, they would have loved it.
I was born at the wrong time...
My mom and dad like to rub it in my face that I missed the 80s too. I envy the fucking shit out of every one of you.
You had to smoke in the 70s. It was a law.
Grocery carts had ash trays.
And the checkout line had ashtrays.
The elevator had ash trays.
It was normal to make ceramic ash trays in elementary school art class.
Graduated in Wyoming a "few" years ago and we had pickup trucks with gun racks and long guns in the parking lot every day. Never had any problems other than the typical high school prank BS. Funny there was a time in here in our country where everybody had guns and we were actually safer.
Wyoming is very safe, go figure.
How many "people of color" are in Wyoming?
No it was not another universe. It was our country.
I miss living in that country.
I graduated in '06
We read Animal Farm, we had a class where kids could get hunting licenses (no actual guns in class), no smoking areas, but we did learn the horrors of socialism. This was Texas. Most of the Democrats I know in Texas say Democratic socialism isn't real socialism..... which is how they reconcile the fact that socialism is bad, yet they insist on voting for Democratic socialists.
Yes, the Democrats like to claim that "Democratic Socialism" is something new and better, where socialism is voted in by the people, as if socialists have never been elected into power before. In reality, socialists have long used democracy to take power, and the results are the same horrible shit as socialism enacted by coup or revolution.
I live in Utah now and in my school district anyone with a permit can concealed carry in any school. The only rule is they have to keep the gun on their person at all times. Zero shootings in that district.
That was the political system IIRC
The Party and big brother were the rulers
Ah, yes. The lovely days pre- CERN. President Trump is here from the future to fix the rip in the spacetime continuum created by finding the God Particle. Just keep your seat belt fastened when you aren't moving around. Things should be resolved either in his second or third term.
Yes. And it was BernstEin dammit!
I thought that Barron was the time traveler. Sadly, he outgrew the dimensions of the time machine cabinet. I guess the task now falls exclusively on the shoulders of John Titor.
Lol. So much to unpack in this comment.
Wait, so they actually did fuck things up? little high school pede me haaaated that they were "atom smashing" even back then. The media's concerns were of a black hole being opened. I was like "okay, if that's even a remote possibility, who the fuck do they think they are risking that? I'm on this planet too!"
Poppycock! Pernicious nonsense! It was a tiny blackhole that barely even shifted anything in our dimension or time. Tell that smarty pants to mind his own damn business!
Amen from '87 graduate
ditto
Class of ‘85 here. Animal Farm was required reading and Civics class actually taught the Constitution and how our system of government is a Republic.
School cop would hang with us and smoke in between classes. Lol.
1985 grad here too. I had the extra red pill of graduating at an air base in what was then West Germany during the Cold War. I've seen what communism looks like up close.
I lived and worked in Switzerland '83 to '85 and of course had friends from the east block. People have no clue. We need to fight for our freedoms and country.
I remember taking the train from W Germany to E Germany, and once you crossed the border everything turned grey. The buildings, the air, everything. When I think of communism, that's what I think of.
Exactly.
Seeing the Berlin Wall during that time period would have been crazy.
I grew up in the Air Force. Life on base for kids was awesome.
Yes, indeed.
I’m an 89 grad too. The govt did kinda fuck us outta a little fun with the whole AIDS thing though.
86 here! We grew up in the BEST OF TIMES! These poor kids today don't know what a REAL CHILDHOOD and TEENHOOD is all about. My nephew 13 has been crying abput climate change since he is 8! These public school commies ruined these kids childhood!
They tried to scare us with nuclear holocaust and global cooling, we were just more skeptical
Switzerland? Bomb shelter in every basement. People used them to store wine when I was there.
Everybody sit along the wall in the hallway. Place your head between your legs. This is going to save you when the missles hit.
Do you remember global cooling? Sounds like you are old enough
I was at the end of the global cooling and right at the start of acid rain and hole in the ozone layer.
Oh yeah, acid rain was legit, we scrubbed the gases coming out of coal plants and ended it. In Vermont there were yellow lines at the bottom of the snow as it melted from acid rain and huge forests in Bavaria were dying from the East German pollution. They are all 100% healed now because the earth recovers fast. It took the fall of the Soviet Union to get that air clean. Hmmmm. The Ozone layer hole I think was total bunk.
Acid rain wasn't legit sorry it was 0 for 3 for those hoaxes.
After commenting initially, I also remembered save the elephants. I haven’t heard much about those elephants in decades.
Class of '89 is FINE!
Read 1984 IN 1984. Movie still holds up, too.
Class of '88 is great! 😁
Ours was: Party hardy rock ‘n roll Drink Bacardi smoke a bowl Drugs are great, sex is fine Cause we’re the class of ‘89!!!
Me too. I read all those dystopian novels. 1984, Fahrenheit 451, and Brave New World seem most applicable to where we are at
I graduated in 87. We would go to school with guns hanging the back widow of our trucks.
I remember that! Grew up in MT and graduated in 90. There were always rifles in the rear window racks of trucks in the HS parking lot. No one ever thought a thing of it.
That was the OG flex move. My dad has a bunch of long guns and I would always have different ones at school in the back window.
we needed them there so we could hunt for 2hrs before practice started during hunting/football season
Fellow Gen Xer. Graduated in '90. Now raising my kids in Clown World
OP: That was the real world. You are now living in Clown World
best of times
88' We would take long lunch breaks (had to cut a few classes) to rabbit hunt and shoot a few prairie dogs. Incidentally this was in the lefty paradise (was not quite as bad back then) of Boulder CO.
Kind of funny also, the school security guard would have a beer or two with us in the parking lot, but would bust others (the commie kids). ;)
I lived in boulder briefly in ‘92. Couldn’t stand the trust fund hippies, moved to Denver. Capital hill in Denver was great in the ‘90s!
Oh very cool. Yeah, you are exactly right with the trust fund hippy kids. I was at Boulder High, the lesser of the two schools and at that time it was considered the a slum school compared to Fairview, but I found it humorous that despite the school's rep, there were still so many ultra wealthy trust fund kids heh.
i was born in 90. i have read both 1984 an animal farm an know the horrors of communism an socialism . im still in universe. they will never beat me down.
Same Here!
I had to read a lot of dystopian novels in high school: 1984, Brave New World, Animal Farm, Fahrenheit 451. We even read Dante's Inferno. Thankfully my teachers weren't communist activists.
I helped my daughter select 1984 as her summer reading project. She loved it and observes the parallels often.
Funny enough, they're trying to rebrand the novel as an example of "unchecked capitalism" rather than the "communism" we know it to reference.
But heaven forbid if they should smoke tobacco, weed is fine. It is insane
I heard stories and saw the smoking square that we were never allowed to use. We were forced to head off campus to hide in shame they tracked us like escaped convicts with campus supervisors in golf carts.
I, too, am from this alternate universe. When did we switch worlds?
It feels like we're cycling through worlds, a worse one every 2 to 4 weeks now.
we crossed over in 2012, to a place, known only as....The Twilight Zone.
Class of 90 here and I feel the same way.
Rock on Class of 90!
1987 smoking circle in high-school actually stopped me from trying smoking.
My junior year in HS is when the school no longer allowed the students who hunted befor to keep their guns in their cars during the school day. They put the policy in place, then made a big deal out of some kid who forgot one day.
What a complete joke, my father went to the same school, and my grandfather taught there, never an incident.
Copy that. 1979.
Even in the early 2000's, many schools still taught Orwell in English classes. The past 15-20 years have been awful in our schools, especially the public schools.
Class of 89 checking in.
I graduated in 1993. I remember - in Long Island - carving with our cub scout swiss army knives. I remember the principal popping in to chat with the scout leader while we were "whittling" some wood into blocks. He was more worried about us sweeping up the shavings. Sometime in the late 80s.
I also remember learning about the Pilgrims, too.
We had a rifle team for JROTC at school. I practiced every day.. at school.
I miss the early 80's
The animal farm and 1984 you can be assured they were required reading at least up to 2013, at least in the HS I went too.
Class of 2007 here and we read both of those, Lord Of The Flies and Brave New World. We didn’t have shooting classes but we at least still had archery. I for one am glad there wasn’t a smoking section in the school, though. That was one thing society got right. We did just fine sneaking a smoke in the bathroom or on the corner across the street.
I graduated in 1970, My Jr and senior years I had a pack a smokes in my pocket, a pocket knife in my levis jeans pocket, rifle and a 12 gauge shotgun in the gun rack in the rear window of my 1967 Chevy Pickup in the school parking lot. No issues what so ever. If you said FUCK or any other curse word directed to a teacher it was automatic 5 day suspension, period no argument.
Talk about times have changed, good god all mighty. You draw a picture of a pistol on paper at school and they call the fucking cops.
Key things have totally fucked up public education, Lack of engaged parents, Computers, cell phones, The US Federal Government, teachers unions, no civics classes, no Americanism vs Communism classes and general education has lost all common sense about anything. Just to name a few.
I graduated in 2003 and we had all of that except smoking areas. I feel similar to you. How did millenials allow their children to be brainwashed this badly?
I'm a year behind you. One of our summer reading book options in the late 80s? Trump's The Art of the Deal. (Also happens to be one I chose. I don't even remember the other one.)
Yep. Grew up rural. Trucks in HS parking lots with gun racks in the rear windows. During winter, us kids rushing out to get a quick bird or deer hunt in at last light after basketball practice. Families talking about everyone's day together at dinner instead of knowing everything instantly via text barrages or social media posts.
Ditto! Beer is good, wine is fine We`re the class of eighty-nine!
I fell in love with a girl from that class.
Damn shame she got fat & lived poorly.
9 out of every 10 girls now
We had a riflery class and a range in the basement of the high school. We shot .22s. We were not indoctrinated like they tried but failed with my children. Oh sure, the history and economics textbooks I had had a dem/prog bias to them, subtle but actually quite strong, but that was it.
In just a few decades they have turned the indoctrination from subtle to loud and obvious af.
That was probably back in the Berenstein universe.
Same. And I mean to the letter. They did stop the smoking area after my sophomore year but still.
I'm old enough to remember when the legal drinking age in my state was 19
Lived in Vermont when the legal age was 18. The feds threatened to remove highway funds if the states did not fall into line
I had more freedom when I was 10 years old than I do at 46. In the 80s my parents went to work, and at 9am I went(by myself) to swim lessons, and froze my butt off might I add....but survived without needing a therapist, social worker or a psychologist to diagnose me with some trauma later in life. I then rode my bike home without a helmet or any other form of battle gear. I played with my friends outside all day and night, but as soon as one parent hollered out the front door, it was like a damn fire drill to get home. If you didn't show up when the street lights came on, the phone a parent began until they found your ass. I also rode in the back of pick up truck, learned to shoot a handgun at 10 and drive a stick at 14, didn't wear a seat belt and drank from the water hose in the summer and I am still alive. I don't have, cancer a mental illness or anxiety. I love my country and respect everyone who fights for what this country was founded on....FREEDOM! Rant over!
I grew up in the 90's and things were still much the same as you. Parents didn't want you hanging around the house. I spent the whole day independently and was just fine.
I was in High School in 2001 - we would have a ‘Nature Walk’ break which was a teacher supervised smoke break for the school lol
I graduated in 2003 and we read Animal Farm and 1984 too. I wonder if they've canceled that by now.