Senator Doug Mastriano is attempting today to get enough support to pass a resolution that would enable Pennsylvania to exercise their constitutional authority to seat the electors themselves and decide which electors to send to DC to vote for president. But enough of his colleagues need to support it in order for it to pass.
CALL THEM AND EMAIL!!! (PREFERABLY CALL). LET THEM KNOW HOW YOU FEEL. DEMAND THEY DO THIS. IF THEY DON'T, DEMAND TO KNOW WHY.
IF THEIR VOICEMAIL IS FULL, EMAIL THEM, AND THEN CALL BACK LATER.
PA senate:
https://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/legis/home/member_information/contact.cfm?body=S
PA House of Representatives:
https://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/legis/home/member_information/contact.cfm?body=H
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Doug Mastriano was on War Room this morning in case you missed it. The PA senate leadership was dragging their feet and Doug said we needed to contact the legislature:
https://youtu.be/hXQ4kDgjDiU?t=5786 (timestamp 1:36:20)
And remember: Even if the resolution is introduced and passes, enough republicans in both houses are going to have to flip to supporting Trump electors, not Biden. Remember how weak-kneed they are!
If you live outside Pennsylvania, you can still contact the Senate and House leadership:
Senate Pro Tem (republican): Jake Corman / (717) 787-1377 / (814) 355-0477 /
Senate Majority Leader (republican): Kim L. Ward / (717) 787-6063 / (724) 600-7002 /
Speaker of the House of Reps (republican): Bryan Cutler / (717) 284-1965 / (717) 783-6424 /
Majority leader of House of Reps (republican): Kerry A. Benninghoff / +1 (814) 355-1300 / (717) 783-1918 /
IT IS A TERRIBLY WRITTEN RESOLUTION! Needs a cleaner version!!! Much cleaner!
Dear PA State Senator MASTRIANO, and to all 50 State Legislatures,
You don't need to "override" State Laws. The US Constitution gives current States' Legislatures the power to appoint their respective State's Electors. No State Law, No governor, No judge, No past legislature, No case law, etc. can usurpe that from the current legislature. The Governor, or any Executive officer/official/employee; does not have legal power in the appointment of Electors. Elections officials have no legal power to appoint Electors.
It's not legally possible for past State Legislatures(eg the PA 1938 legislature and governor to pass it into law) to deligate the appointing ELECTORs on an ongoing basis; and even when they do, it's still always advisory to the current State's Leglislature.
Governors play no legal role in appointing Electors; so any "bill/law" which requires his signature; or any State Consitiutional Amendment/law/words which gives Electors to the "Election vote" or by "Congressional district" or whatever is on it's face unconstitutional.
The State Legislatures do not even need a governor to call them into session, to do their Constitutional job of appointing Electors.
Just get enough fellow State Legislature officials together for quarum, and you can appoint your State's Electors. Drafting a Resolution for Electors is as simple and clean as my Quaker beliefs. Resolution should be as legally clean and simple as:
...
"ON ____ Date, at ____ Place in PA: We, the sworn and lawful, Legislature of PA, hereby appoint our State's Electors for the 2020 POTUS/VP Election as:
Name #1
Name #2
Name #3
etc.
And the above Names are to show up at _____ Date, at _____ Place in PA to cast their votes as per the US Constitution for POTUS & for VP.
Signed _______ Date_______
Signed _______ Date_______
..."
Make sure the Electors meet the Constituional requirements as written in the US Constitution.
Make sure the State Legislature has enough signatures & quarum.
Make sure the Electors Named, know, so they show up to vote.
Send copies of the above out, and for the archives. ...
Keep it going Pedes. SEND IT ALONG! A WIN & WIN Plan:
https://thedonald.win/p/11Q8EhtERu/for-everyone-who-wants-djtpence-/
And Get your Republican State Legislatures to appoint their DJT/Pence Electors!
EDIT UPDATE & thanks to u/oxygen for the newer Senate version link:
[Spez: A Headline link from another Post 8hrs ago here:
https://thedonald.win/p/11QSCNVwLw/x/c/4DpL5u65cNJ
is to a PA House version from 12:50pm Friday noontime.
https://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/Legis/CSM/showMemoPublic.cfm?chamber=H&SPick=20190&cosponId=32628&mobile_choice=suppress
A (newer) PA Senate version of the Resolution is u/oxygens link above is up as of 7:33pm Friday night:
https://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/Legis/CSM/showMemoPublic.cfm?chamber=S&SPick=20190&cosponId=32629&mobile_choice=suppress
The Resolution's Writting is Getting better, but there's still disagreement between the two versions. More work to go, Keep spreading the WIN&WIN PLAN!]
I love your enthusiasm pede but let me make something clesr: All the US constitution says is that state legislatures have the power to set up a process to select electors as they see fit. It turns out that in PA, since 1938, they've seen fit to have it done the way it's done now. So yes, they do have to override/change the old PA state law. The constitution doesn't say state legislatures have the sole power to select electors. It says they have the sole power to set up a process as they see fit. Hope that makes sense.
I too love your enthusiasm btw:)
A key thing to note is, the power of State's Legislatures to set up a process to appoint (basically however they want); this power is always there in the timeframe. This would be like, if Big Guy Biden told his son Hunter to take the credit card to go get the laptops repaired, and Hunter drives off to spend the money to fill up his pipe instead; the Big Guy can be like NOPE and cut the money transaction off... it's always the BIg Guy's card, even if he's deligated it or set up a process to follow; he can always override at any point so long as the time(frame) is valid.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_Two_of_the_United_States_Constitution#Clause_2:_Method_of_choosing_electors
[Strict-Constitutional Redpill] The current State's Legislatures do the appointing of their State's Electors. Any "vote" in an election or any other process, is basically only advisory to the current State's Legislature. No election, No Governor, No past Legislature, No State Law, No Bill/Law, No Federal Law, No congress, No judge; can tell a current State's Legislature HOW to appoint.
So for instance, let's say a State Legislature says, to you and I, that we are the umpires/refs and are going to flip coins to see who to appoint as Electors, from a list of names until we fill up the number of Electors the State gets to send. If both our coins comes up heads, the person is selected, everything else, we skip and go to the next name on the list.
If we do our jobs as proscribed, and fill up a list of names in that mannor. We are done. We made a list of Electors for the State. But this list of names, and the "Constitutional lawful Power" of the State's Legislature; still exists for as long as the time(frame) set out by congress (as per):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_Two_of_the_United_States_Constitution#Clause_4:_Election_day
So what happens if we finish our list at noon; and then the State Legislature meets at 1pm and makes a new list using a different method, maybe a pie-eating contest. The State Legislature can override at anytime so long as the time(frame) is open; and by extension, the list we made can be formally recongnized by an afternoon meeting of the State's Legislature, as "the State's Electors" for this cycle.
Now what happens if you and I are flipping coins, but we still haven't worked out a list by midnight, as all many coins keep coming up tails. Well as per the lawful timeframe, whichever lawful mannor which the State's Legislature(s) chose to select, is what is in place when the sand runs out of the hourglass. So if we only have 5 names on our list, and there were 20 slots; well so be it; it's an incomplete list, and then follow the process with those 5 voting for POTUS/VP and tallying and signing and sending in their envelope to the joint session of congress to open with all the rest of the Nations envelopes.
The "Law" of the past Legislature, cannot override the current State Legislature; nothing can override the current State Legislature until the time runs out. The Time(frame) set by congress.
If 3 USC1 is legal, and if 3 USC 2 is unconstitutional, then that congressionally set timeframe was midnight on Election Day.
If 3 USC 2 is legal (at least for the next 2.5 weeks) then current State Legislatures can still go about appointing their State's Electors in whatever mannor they wish (so long as it's not itself unconstitutional or illegal, eg selling tickets/seats, death/cagematch, etc.).
No court, judge, law, executive officer, governor, clerk, coinflipper, software vendor, congress, legislature, etc. can tell the current State Legislature's HOW to appoint, and only congress can tell the current State Legislature's WHEN to appoint. The time(frame) WHEN can be argued over, because 3 USC2 includes a HOW, not just a WHEN, as per "muh democracy" in June 1948 a few months before November's 1948 post-midnight ballot stuffing for Truman beats Dewey rather than the headline of Dewey beats Truman; aka this is the crux of the midnight big Dem City late ballot stuffing to carry the "modern" era POTUS contests.
This is why my spam post, is the inescapable legal WIN&WIN, it doesn't give the judges/courts or opponents any wiggle room, not one inch. So they either find their spines and uphold the Constitution, or resign(/impeached) for nakedly Oathbreaking. All the lengthy things, get resolved separately from Electors, with lots of winning like cleaning out Dem majorities in CA, IL, NY in time for US Census redistricting this next session of State Houses & congress.
I'm still under very heavy communications blackout here on the Front Lines, nearly all my bandwidth I can get out/in I use here at TD. So any other pedes who can keep spreading the word is most appreciated and required. *hugs
Right, and that's what Senator Mastriano's resolution does. It is necessary.
No, but the state legislature can. That's what you're missing. The state legislature made the current rules in PA. In order for them to do something else, they have to amend their own rules, and that's what this resolution does.
There's parts in that resolution which don't do this, and are contrary to it, such as the very important #6.
What is missing in that resolution and paradym, is the basic premise and understanding, that by (taking the action of) the State Legislature action of the very act of passing it's own Slate of Electors, this (will) supercede's all previous actions by themselves (this legislature); themselves (past legislatures); or anyone else in any branch or layer of government.
By filling in all those other things into this, it gives opponents (and judges) dozens of legal angles to attack and tie up the Electors. And statements like #6 give any spinelss judge/court a legal out, by saying let congess deal with it.
And these things are terrible, never give them easy attacks or spineless ways out, especially when trying to muster a quarum of courage within a legislative body.
Take the high ground and hold it!
The time for critiquing the document has passed. Now we just need to get it done with what we have.
Having been around enough decades, I think it was a first salvo document, mostly like shooting in the dark in the general direction, and trying to cover many bases at once.
The current Resolution won't work as written, for all kinds of legal and political reasons. It needs modification, preferably split into two parts as per my link spam from 2.5 weeks ago.
But truthfully, this topic and laws aren't things many people including lawyers and professors and judges/SCOTUS spend much time studying/reading/etc. As said on WarRoom 4 days ago of Bannon interview of atty Greg Teufel (dark suit, white hair) who was filing for Mike Kelly. https://youtu.be/FmbTwFhS6Rk
"Not everybody walks around knowing about Supreme Court precidents from the 1800's and 1920's ..."
except for ... Autist, nimble-navigator, time-traveller, :)
SEND IN THE AUTISTS!