But THEY know this equally well. I would had expected them having a plan to not let this happen. For example, taking on the case and just kicking down the can, stalling the process. Any thoughts?
Disenfranchisement is going to be the mantra that all currupt judges use, never mind the disenfranchisement of those casting legal ballots. Hundreds of thousands of ballots found during the night does disenfranchise anyone now does it?
Yes agreed, this is planned so they get to SCOTUS, now they will show a much different story to SCOTUS. You guys will win many have faith over here in Canada. We believe trump is still playing media and the left, he is way smarter 10D chess baby lol
They can’t show a different story to the Supreme Court. In appeals, you can only present the facts from the original case. You cannot introduce new evidence.
Where can you introduce new evidence? To SCOTUS? Because so far none of the courts have ruled in our favor with the existing evidence. We need to be able to introduce even more to make it a guarantee for the courts to side with us. Idk how it works, though
If you introduce new evidence that fundamentally changes your argument, you would need to file a new case and have the lower courts make a decision with this new evidence taken into account.
Remember: you’re appealing that the lower courts did not make the right decision given the facts available at the time. You can’t go to the Supreme Court with new evidence because they will say: “the lower courts did not have this evidence to consider, so maybe they would have ruled differently with this new info”. Then they’ll send the case back down.
so then how does Trump plan to have SCOTUS rule differently? Does the legal team really have the confidence that every lower court made the same mistake and SCOTUS will change that?
As someone else pointed out to me on this site: none of Trump’s lawsuits have alleged actual fraud. I was shocked to learn this, but it looks like that’s why they keep getting tossed out. How can you ask for votes to be thrown out without alleging fraud?
Honestly, I’ve kept my opinion to myself because I don’t want to be a doomer, but I think his legal team is failing him.
But THEY know this equally well. I would had expected them having a plan to not let this happen. For example, taking on the case and just kicking down the can, stalling the process. Any thoughts?
But a ruling in Trump's favor would send it to SCOTUS anyway. I mean, what is the point?
is this the case about ballot curing?
Disenfranchisement is going to be the mantra that all currupt judges use, never mind the disenfranchisement of those casting legal ballots. Hundreds of thousands of ballots found during the night does disenfranchise anyone now does it?
How can we honor the dead by disenfranchising their vote?
Yes agreed, this is planned so they get to SCOTUS, now they will show a much different story to SCOTUS. You guys will win many have faith over here in Canada. We believe trump is still playing media and the left, he is way smarter 10D chess baby lol
They can’t show a different story to the Supreme Court. In appeals, you can only present the facts from the original case. You cannot introduce new evidence.
The original evidence is enough though, impartial court would never reject the case claiming no enough evidence.
Ok, but that has nothing to do with I was saying. The guy said they would present a different story and I said they can’t.
Where can you introduce new evidence? To SCOTUS? Because so far none of the courts have ruled in our favor with the existing evidence. We need to be able to introduce even more to make it a guarantee for the courts to side with us. Idk how it works, though
If you introduce new evidence that fundamentally changes your argument, you would need to file a new case and have the lower courts make a decision with this new evidence taken into account.
Remember: you’re appealing that the lower courts did not make the right decision given the facts available at the time. You can’t go to the Supreme Court with new evidence because they will say: “the lower courts did not have this evidence to consider, so maybe they would have ruled differently with this new info”. Then they’ll send the case back down.
so then how does Trump plan to have SCOTUS rule differently? Does the legal team really have the confidence that every lower court made the same mistake and SCOTUS will change that?
As someone else pointed out to me on this site: none of Trump’s lawsuits have alleged actual fraud. I was shocked to learn this, but it looks like that’s why they keep getting tossed out. How can you ask for votes to be thrown out without alleging fraud?
Honestly, I’ve kept my opinion to myself because I don’t want to be a doomer, but I think his legal team is failing him.
I mean maybe there’s an ace up their sleeve but if this is true, the outlook ain’t good
Giuliani is up some Trick Definitely as he Reached SCOTUS Very Fast. It looks like this case will set precedent for Ballot Observation and Count.
Further as this is not a Fraud Case. They can file a fraud case/ new case too.
Disenfranchisement is a two way street. Fraud disenfranchises voters too. Wake up judge, and smell the disenfranchisement.
What would SPEED a case to the SCOTUS better than a lower court ruling against Plaintiff's?
A lower court knows its bounds are limited, causing it to the SCOTUS widens the reach of any ruling.
They are helping this along. Just plan to say sorry to them when this is over.
Was this the same court/case that caused the judge to block the certification?
No, that was a state judge. These were three republican-appointed federal judges.
Expected. The initial ruling got us here. Let's go.