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Madewithsalt [S] 320 points ago +322 / -2

If you look at the baseline, from 2012 -> to 2016, you'll see they lost a LOT of ground, and had to NOT make the same mistake in 2020. Problem is, the fraud was TOO OBVIOUS!

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AlphaNathan 180 points ago +183 / -3

BROKE THE ALGORITHM

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Madewithsalt [S] 86 points ago +87 / -1

That's facts, now invest in AR-15 - AK47

556 and 762 ammo -- GOOD GAME!

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Stevo182 44 points ago +45 / -1

What Biden tax? Don't you have to be president to initiate such a tax? Seems improbable.

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TexasPiper 25 points ago +27 / -2

ammoseek.com

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tag759 6 points ago +7 / -1

I second that. Only way to buy ammo these days.

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TexasPiper 3 points ago +3 / -0

Lol you might be right

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HillarysDoubleChin 7 points ago +7 / -0

There will be no Biden presidency

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IshinRyu 2 points ago +4 / -2

WTF, don't push business to stores like this. I know everyone's hoarding ammo, since corona and shit. But this is Fing disgusting, the prices some of these places are charging people for steel. Bought this same case beginning of year for $200 shipped. IF we all keep paying ridiculous amounts, they will keep charging.

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RayMontane 6 points ago +7 / -1

Your welcome? Try and find any other case in the country for less right now. WTF do you think is going on? you got time to wait for prices to drop? do you not see whats going on? where you are? Jesus Christ dude. Prepare yourself. If links arent allowed thats different tho, let me know. just trying to help

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JerryJerryJerry 2 points ago +2 / -0

Think of it as paying for rifle cleaning lessons.

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AndrewLB 3 points ago +3 / -0

When its in stock, SGammo.com has 556 for cheap. Unfortunately i can't order ammo online here from Commiefornia, though a friend paid 0.46/rd not long ago. Which reminds me, i need to go visit him. lol.

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SuperDuty4x4 14 points ago +15 / -1

80% lower with no form 4473 before the ATF rules they're a violation is the way to go.

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Justhalftheshaft 11 points ago +11 / -0

I know that all gun laws are unconstitutional, but learning that the ATF, an unelected, useless three later agency can make up new and arbitrary gun laws out of thin air has been an enraging experience.

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trogdortheburninator 6 points ago +6 / -0

Oh, they just "interpret the law," because it's "a living document."

Fun fact, a slam-fire 12 gauge shotgun can be made at Home Depot for about $10. If you want to go really far down the DIY freedom rabbit hole, look into Deterrence Dispensed on your favorite not-Google search engine.

Can't stop the signal.

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Doomguy1994 0 points ago +2 / -2

Who lives in a pineapple under the sea?

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ImpeachTheWitchHunt 5 points ago +6 / -1

🤔

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AndrewLB 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yep. I was lucky and got both an ar15 and ar10 lower before the commiefornia mandatory registration, then my luck ran out and both were lost in a boating accident

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almond_activator 14 points ago +14 / -0

At this point, we're in "the enemy was carrying ammo for the gun he had, pick them both up" territory.

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Whereami 8 points ago +8 / -0

At this point it’s my only path financially.

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almond_activator 2 points ago +2 / -0

Sounds like this video might be as useful for you as it has been for me.

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SirWilliam 1 point ago +1 / -0

CMMG conversion kit and brick of 22lr for training ;)

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ippwndu 8 points ago +8 / -0

Which ones have the best loot drops? I need to upgrade my armor, which right now is none.

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almond_activator 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'm thinking a blue helmet, some OD green spray paint, and a couple handfuls of dirt and leaves will be an early pickup. Can't just rattle-can it, otherwise it shines in the dark.

Everything else depends on your physique. If you've got to wait for a fat one to come along, the usual African UN Rape Squad members aren't likely to be too forthcoming.

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trogdortheburninator 1 point ago +1 / -0

The looters only drop Hi Points.

Better than nothing, but you should try and upgrade again before reaching the next stage of the game.

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MAGA_Flocka_Flame 6 points ago +6 / -0

<sigh> and 22lr was finally starting to come back in the more rural areas too

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Proda 2 points ago +2 / -0

it would change their flight pattern a bit, might have to practice with them to compensate for the changes.

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AndrewLB 1 point ago +1 / -0

why don't you just buy hollow point .22's? or do they no longer exist or something?

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MostlyPeacefulMurder 1 point ago +1 / -0

Just get an airsoft rifle bro

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MAGA_Flocka_Flame 1 point ago +1 / -0

That’s actually a good question

In theory: it might improve accuracy

In practice: it’s hard to really say. In this article, the author found some small improvements in his grouping, but couldn’t say with any certainty that it helped significantly

Only 3 out of 9 properly mushroomed

The tool used was “The Cavity Maker” by Ron Allard Enterprise

http://www.thegunmag.com/hollowpointing-22lr-is-it-practical-does-it-matter/

It really boils down to how much time and ammo you want to use up for experimentation

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TangerineShine 5 points ago +5 / -0

Dude I can’t find one anywhere. My brother just snagged a cheap AK from palmetto state so I was hoping to find one. So far, no luck. Out of stock all over.

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kyblugrass 5 points ago +5 / -0

7.62x51 Nato> 7.62x39

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motrhed3 3 points ago +3 / -0

M1A?

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kyblugrass 3 points ago +3 / -0

G3 clone, PTR-91

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Opticsplanet 1 point ago +1 / -0

While I love mine, I must say they’re awfully heavy. I wouldn’t wanna haul it up a mountain.

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trogdortheburninator 2 points ago +2 / -0

Also not that much more expensive that 5.56 right now.

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kyblugrass 1 point ago +1 / -0

True that. Even rolling your own 5.56 has now gotten pricier.

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GlacialSpeed 23 points ago +23 / -0

Broke my confidence in our entire government and orwellian media/tech nightmare.

There must be severe consequences for this.

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BirthHole 19 points ago +19 / -0

That occurred in 2016 when the DNC was caught red-handed rigging its primary -- and noone cared.

The FBI shrugged. The rank-and-file democrat voters shrugged. The media shrugged. The invalid 'winner' still received the nomination AND the woman who rigged the election went to work in the campaign of the nominee..

That was the sign, for me, that our elections have entered 3rd-world status. The democrats may not get the presidency this time, but the 'party machine' wont be punished. There will be no investigation into who-what-when-where-how the rigging got started and by whom. They will give up Joe and sleenk back into the shadows ever more wiser of the mistakes they need to fix and come back in the next election with a better plan..

We cant even get charges against a guy with a laptop full of rock-solid evidence and photograghs!

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RexCollumSilvarum 5 points ago +5 / -0

The FBI shrugged. The rank-and-file democrat voters shrugged. The media shrugged. The invalid 'winner' still received the nomination AND the woman who rigged the election went to work in the campaign of the nominee.

This part made the independents who were excited about Bernie so angry that we started wondering who else might care about the average American and working people and poor people, and we discovered DONALD TRUMP!

I'll never vote Democrat again. Even the worst RINOs are better than them.

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Bonami 3 points ago +3 / -0

"No investigation"?? How about something much worse?

How about THIS kind of investigation:

Barr just appointed this Obama era gem https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/obama-era-hatchet-man-appointed-doj-prosecute-election-crime-conservatives-beware-comes-cover/

Jim Stone says he is a nightmare. " Barr just appointed Robert Heberle to head election fraud investigation This is bad. Heberle is F***ING EVIL and he ABSOLUTELY WILL prosecute and jail every whistleblower he possibly can. He'll totally de-rail the election fraud hearings any way he possibly can.

He was appointed by Barr to do the cover up. Trump needs to fire Barr STAT and squash this IMMEDIATELY.

Heberle likely cannot have infinite influence over every court, and with the fraud being so far out in the open it is likely he can't kill the story off, but he just might stop everything from proceeding by promptly arresting every announced whistleblower.

He is THAT BAD, he prosecutes and jails innocents left and right."

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JoeSniffedMe 3 points ago +3 / -0

IF the steal of the 2020 election is not exposed and those responsible punished, we will never have a fair election again, period. End of the Republic.

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end_of_globalism 2 points ago +2 / -0

NO BREATHING

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PantsJihad 10 points ago +10 / -0

OUR ENERGY CAN DEFEAT MATH!

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Madewithsalt [S] 17 points ago +17 / -0

We just need to look at the numbers / history. We cannot ALLOW Bolshevik Revolution to happen here. PERIOD.

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The_Litehaus_Abides 4 points ago +4 / -0

I wish the President would go ahead and start talking about the national security risk Biden presents. I haven't heard him say it since the campaign rallies.

Btw, has anyone seen the cover of Newsweek?! I saw that shit in the store and covered up the whole rack with some gossip rag, which is more honest than Newsweek anyway.

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Madewithsalt [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

1776 part 2, who's leading the resistance tho?

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coderdude6598 33 points ago +33 / -0

Can you add Virginia and New Mexico?

Also would be interesting to see California, Illinois, and New York or a NY, NJ, CT cluster which I'm pretty sure also went Trump 2020.

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Madewithsalt [S] 12 points ago +12 / -0

I'll add when I get home off of GOV time ;)

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Hall 2 points ago +2 / -0

Are the states secretary of state the source? I'm convinced South Carolina dimm primary was also rigged. Curious how primary turnout looks versus general. And also would love to get the info Braynard was using with addresses to run that against your mailboxes etc. or Kinko's. Also, maybe a heat map that shows addresses used for more than 6 registrations.

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DJTrumpMAGA 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'm looking forward to seeing this update too. Thanks!

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FrequentFlyer 5 points ago +5 / -0

You are so correct! I've mentioned Virginia on here several times. Nothing there adds up. Absolute fraud.

Rudy brought up New Mexico so I'm sure there is something iffy there too.

And how the count is not finished in New York I don't know. Even with all this ample time surely they must have been able to cheat their way over the line unless the numbers for Trump is overwhelming.

I hold the USA in the highest regard usually but, I'm sorry, this election is nothing but a complete farce. Anyone with half a brain can see it.

One person sneaking in a couple of votes in one state, a couple of dead persons voting in another and so on. Sure. But this? Nowhere in the world has more blatant voter fraud been so obvious and so many people playing along as if it's all kosher.

NEVER surrender. Fight-Fight-Fight

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coderdude6598 7 points ago +7 / -0

NY Dems have been “harvesting” ballots for 24 days now trying to pad or overturn results. I have been watching them.

They actually lost 2/3 of their House seats to Trump Republicans. Same thing in CA, IL, NJ, and CT. All of America is Red, my friend.

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FrequentFlyer 3 points ago +3 / -0

I'm not disputing that for a second. I think the "voter map" General Flynn (and others) posted that had Trump winning in a landslide with over 400 electoral collage votes is indeed correct.

The shenanigans going on is absolutely ridiculous. If you can't even sort out your cheating in 3 weeks it really appalling.

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coderdude6598 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yep. There is complete media blackout going on in the United States right now. Not a single Big Media outlet in the whole country will even report on the fraud. All newspaper, tv, streaming, Social Media. Everything. Complete CCP style information suppression.

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GBA4ever 2 points ago +2 / -0

I’m interested in Illinois numbers too. Cook County and many surrounding counties had sharpie pens for Election Day voting. Downstate used regular ballpoint pens.

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lifeisahologram 7 points ago +7 / -0

This sounds like Nazi bigot talk. He was obviously the most popular person ever in the history of the universe. In fact he was SO popular, people were intimidated of going to his events thinking they would be stampeded to death from all of his fans, which is why no one showed up to his speeches, THATS HOW POPULAR HE IS! NOW CONCEDE!

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Madewithsalt [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

These stats? Nytimes lol and registered voters database on each website with year cross ref

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Madewithsalt [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Kill the enemy with their own weapons

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EDDIT_IS_CUCKED 1 point ago +1 / -0

This would be better if they were percentage changes. Nevada looks inconsequential by comparison (even though it obviously isn't).

Either way, FANTASTIC job, pede!

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Madewithsalt [S] 169 points ago +169 / -0

These people think we wouldn't see these numbers? Biden has 510k more votes than obama in Arizona?

792k more votes in Florida!?

596k more in GEORGIA? holy shit

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BoilingEnema 26 points ago +26 / -0

Devils advocate:

Trump picked up ~1 million in Florida, does that indicate fraud as well?

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current_horror 41 points ago +41 / -0

Trump made historic gains among Hispanics, especially among Cubans in Florida. Are Hispanics disputing this? No - because they actually cast those votes. Are democrats disputing this? No - because they don't want anyone looking closely at the election. In fact, many democrats have not been shy about dumping the "traitorous" Hispanic demo.

Meanwhile, Trump lost support among exactly one demo: white males. Are white males disputing this? Yes - because they didn't cast those votes. Are democrats disputing this? Depends when you ask them, I suppose. Before the election, literally no one was predicting that Trump's most reliable demo would abandon him for a political party that actively hates them. Democrats were running non-stop anti-white agitprop, which should have driven white men even further towards Trump.

Instead, we have a demographic shift that makes no sense, and no one on the left has even tried to explain how it happened.

Because it didn't. And they know it.

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julianleroux 23 points ago +23 / -0

"I mean before the election, literally no one was predicting that Trump's most reliable demo would abandon him for a political party that actively hates them."

Exactly this. I'd like this forum to make this point more often.

So many aspects to this election that are completely inexplicable from a sociological / political perspective, and which no one predicted ... inexplicable if you don't account for massive fraud.

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Observation 6 points ago +6 / -0

Meanwhile, Trump lost support among exactly one demo: white males. Are white males disputing this? Yes - because they didn't cast those votes.

One thing to remember is that info about race isn’t tabulated from voter data itself or anything — it’s only collected via exit polling. So I’m not quite sure what you mean by white males disputing this (because, by definition, they’re the ones who originally reported it).

Of course, we could question whether the exit polling is correct here — though I think the two major exit polls both suggested a drop in white male support.

(Here’s a detailed report on one of these exit polls.)

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RexCollumSilvarum 1 point ago +1 / -0

Are white males disputing this? Yes - because they didn't cast those votes.

I've been wondering if the Dems targeted specific demographics when they created fake votes, so as to set up future narratives about how this or that group is abandoning the Republicans.

This time I suspect that they needed so many votes that they just used every dead and moved-away person they could find, but it wouldn't surprise me if they add another element to their cheating in the future.

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educatedandfree 2 points ago +2 / -0

You're giving them waaaaay too much credit. They had to PANIC CHEAT to pull this out.

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Madewithsalt [S] 25 points ago +27 / -2

No, he had TURNOUT that was at that level, and bidens followed, but if you transverse that to ALL other states - EXCEPT battlegrounds, they follow similiar patterns.

Completely Fraudulent.

Combine that with no witnesses to the count - Voting Machines - Mail in ballot fraud. This is so sophisticated, I feel like it has to be intelligence level compilation.

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dorsalmorsel 6 points ago +6 / -0

We are supposed to believe Biden got 750,000 more votes than Hillary in 2016 and 1,000,000 more votes than Obama in 2012 in Florida. Florida. In 50% White, 25% Hispanic Florida. Joe Biden. In Florida. I can keep repeating Joe Biden and Florida if that helps.

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Hall 5 points ago +5 / -0

Also, we all know 0bama midterms were a disappointment. And if Rmoney wasn't such a terrible candidate, he would have lost. Maybe pull back to include 2008 and also show population contraction & growth.

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RachelTheDreg 20 points ago +21 / -1

Impossible. You'd have to suspend all disbelief to accept that as a fact.

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weltbild 16 points ago +16 / -0

Putin wins his election more honest than Biden.

The disgrace could never be wiped away if this fraud gets certified.

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Tucso 5 points ago +5 / -0

Trump blew it out

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HumanSomewhere 4 points ago +4 / -0

Even your rank and file dems know it's total bullshit. As they grin through their teeth at you.

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Tucso 47 points ago +48 / -1

Also remember many of trumps votes were destroyed. I’m sure his blowout was way more

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RussianAgent13 30 points ago +30 / -0

Many people like me voted for the first time ever because of Trump, and we're ecstatic that he's still fighting for us.

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Madewithsalt [S] 49 points ago +49 / -0

That's correct, he made advances in EVERY state. Biden tiny gains in every state, with MASSIVE gains in ONLY battleground states.

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Thiswillbeintheexam 15 points ago +15 / -0

Incumbents making ground like this with voters and STILL losing is absolutely unheard of.

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Observation -2 points ago +2 / -4

MASSIVE gains in ONLY battleground states.

I dunno; he gained 2.3 million over Clinton’s 2016 total in CA. I’d say that’s a sizable chunk.

He gained 1.3 million in TX — which I’m not sure if it’s really fair to call a battleground state, if Democrats have consistently been losing it by between 600,000 and a million votes, including in 2020.

He also went up by a higher number in IL than a few different numbers in OP’s chart. (Relative to population, he goes up by a similar percent in D.C. He goes up by 270,000 in Ohio — another state that was a huge Trump win in 2016, and a comfortable Trump win in 2020 too.)

The true battleground states remain low-victory-margin battleground states. The total turnout for Trump and Biden in these went up pretty equally over Trump/Clinton turnout; it’s just the final outcomes here that shifted (again, by usually very low margins).

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MOLOCH_Hunter 1 point ago +1 / -0

Big beautiful gains!

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Nyc28383 86 points ago +86 / -0

No way in hell that Biden got 792k more votes in Florida than Hillary. And over 1M more than Obama 2012.

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LiberalismIsTheVirus 46 points ago +46 / -0

The man got more votes from blacks in Detroit and other cities compared to Obama. What can't the man do!? Besides stop sniffing people in public since that's a given.

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WaitingOnTheDay 8 points ago +8 / -0

I think this actually makes the whole thing clear. This wasn't just trump doing better in all the other states, it looks to me like they were front-loading the fraud to Florida, but oops, Trump. They lost Florida fairly early and that's when the panic set it. Time to bring in a fat ol Dem to go clog a toilet, shut it down and recalibrate the steal.

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Madewithsalt [S] 19 points ago +19 / -0

He's clearly REALLY popular amongst the YOUTH - under 10 years old....OH WAIT, they can't vote.

Or consent...... LOL

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Loiuzein 8 points ago +8 / -0

they really like leg hair so they voted for him

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HunterBidenCokeMirro 5 points ago +5 / -0

Corpop was jelous of his leg hairs.

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Supersaiyanbroly737 8 points ago +8 / -0

Their counter argument is that population increases. But it's actually the impossible voter turnout that indicates fraud.

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Rocky88 4 points ago +4 / -0

Democrats just don’t like women.

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preferredfault 49 points ago +49 / -0

There's even more. Look at Illinois. On their ballot, they had a vote on a thing called the "fair tax". It was essentially a raise on taxes for the rich, and lowering of taxes for the poor. It not only didn't pass, it failed abysmally, people overwhelmingly voted against it. Biden literally ran on tremendously raising taxes on everyone. So how the hell would Biden win a state that voted against something that Biden was running on, and something that is clearly a fundamental core aspect of Democrat policies?

People need to realize that the steal goes way beyond swing states. Trump not only won all the swing states, he also flipped some long time Democrat states. But Democrats stole it. Imagine the embarrassment Democrats faced if they allowed states like Illinois to be flipped. They couldn't allow it. They knew such a thing would be something they couldn't politically recover from for decades, because if states like Illinois were suddenly in play during presidential elections, they wouldn't have the comfortable base amount of electoral votes they rely on to make elections easier to steal.

Here's the truth: Democrat states are only states where Democrats have cheated in soo much for soo long, that no one bats an eye when they steal them anymore. Democrats want us to believe that some states they will always win, because then those states are always considered as guaranteed to them and nothing is contested.

They've carved up the USA into areas they can have and take, like Russia and Germany carved up Europe in WWII.

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Madewithsalt [S] 9 points ago +9 / -0

That's because in IL - they literally can't sell that to anyone with common sense.

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AndrewCuomosEmmy 8 points ago +8 / -0

Yep. I think that there is no way Biden managed to flip back VA, for one, after Trump's huge leads there. New Hampshire as well, are we really supposed to believe that Biden still won there despite the Libertarian being a much weaker candidate than 2016? And Minnesota, 5 months of the twin cities on fire, and he QUADRUPLED Hillary's margin of victory? Yeah, don't buy it for a second.

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PNW_PEPE 5 points ago +5 / -0

Am in cucked state, can confirm. Meth is legal, kids go to school to learn about how to give blowjobs, and you can give kids hormones as much as you like

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AlphaNathan 75 points ago +75 / -0

I might buy that if Trump went way down in votes. Unfortunately for the fraudsters, Trump crushed his 2016 totals.

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TheEmperorProtects 34 points ago +34 / -0

Good point. The lefties keep claiming there are lots of people who used to like trump and abandoned him because they find him obnoxious. If those people exist (they don’t) then where did all those new votes come from?

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IMMORTAN_TRUMP 31 points ago +31 / -0

Trump GAINED 10 million votes. At best you can say that Trump is a polarizing figure but there's no way he lost with that vote share gain, and the fact that Biden won less counties than Obama did.

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weltbild 22 points ago +22 / -0

Trump is more loved than Obama.

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iminlovewithtrump 16 points ago +16 / -0

he is loved more than ANYONE

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covfefe-time 12 points ago +12 / -0

How can anyone not see this MASSIVE corruption for what it is?

They picked the weakest points of attack, and frauded the ever-loving S#!T out of the ballot box, along with electronic fraud that is going to amount to TREASON once we prove that our own States were complicit with BAD foreign actors in an attempt to OVERTHROW OUR ENTIRE COUNTRY!!!

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dakin116 5 points ago +5 / -0

This is my response everytime i see this on Twitter, still yet to hear a rebuttal

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Madewithsalt [S] 15 points ago +15 / -0

That's fact, he gained MORE popularity, however; liberals were able to CHEAT and make it look unrealistic - they couldn't allow their power to slip away, so they did a HAIL MARY attempt.

Buy 1000-2000 556 ammo. Good plan

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Madewithsalt [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Like most pedes - I make REALLY good money lol

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Loiuzein 5 points ago +5 / -0

Only really need a hundred or so. Commies don't tend to stick around once consequences start happening.

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NomadicKrow 5 points ago +6 / -1

That's a great point.

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BitesZaDusto 5 points ago +5 / -0

That would only make sense if Trump's approval numbers were low, but he's been equal to or higher than Obama at the same time during his presidency. 100% fraud.

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SuperDuty4x4 3 points ago +3 / -0

That's exactly what the left believes and their justification for the delusion that there wasn't voter fraud. It doesn't matter that Biden couldn't get a dozen people to show up to one of his rare appearances, they've been convinced, or convinced themselves, that everyone just hates Trump in spite of all evidence to the contrary.

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yupyupp 42 points ago +42 / -0

They look like such a one-upper

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Madewithsalt [S] 12 points ago +12 / -0

Not like a downer - or a roofy that biden puts in childrens drinks.

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bohlah00 19 points ago +19 / -0

That's why they didn't want to call Florida for Trump. The plan was to steal it as well

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ImperatorDJT 7 points ago +7 / -0

They just didn't account for the MASSIVE amount of support trump gained from Latinos, Cubans already voted for him, but now its just landslide level!

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Madewithsalt [S] 34 points ago +34 / -0

He got a ton more votes than obama in these swing states....Literally UNREAL

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Amaroq64 11 points ago +11 / -0

Trump did too! Except Wisconsin where Trump got ~equal to Obama's votes.

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Madewithsalt [S] 7 points ago +7 / -0

Remember dude, Joe - Dementia - Biden was more popular than Obama. NOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

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LibertyorDeath1776 -4 points ago +3 / -7

I think that Obama is more popular on a personal level that Biden, but the democrats were more united and people really hate Trump, so the Democratic Party + anti Trump group was more popular in 2020 than Obama alone was in 2008/2012.

I come from a very conservative family and a lot voted for Trump in 2016 but couldn’t stand the way he acts on Twitter or the fact that he only can only say 7 words (amazing, beautiful, fake news, etc..) and that really turned them off to Trump in 2020. They decided to stay home in 2020. But I go on my social media and god damn did the democrats have a propaganda machine running saying if you do not vote now Hitler will be running the country and we will all die of Covid.

Just my 2 cents.

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DeplorableCentipede 7 points ago +7 / -0

But in general, that's not what happened. Republicans staying home wouldn't explain the numbers in this election. 10 million MORE people voted for Trump than last time.

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Madewithsalt [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

That's a straight fact.

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Speakerdoc 1 point ago +1 / -0

Brilliant metaphor. Thanks for that indelible image. 👌🏽

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OliverWillis 9 points ago +9 / -0

Look at the democrat vote totals 1 state at a time, from 2012 to 2016 to 2020. It'll speak to you.

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BilbroNaggins 5 points ago +5 / -0

It shows how many votes lost Hittlery compared to Obummer, and how many won Despacito Joe compared to Hittlery, completely unreal numbers how ever you look at them.

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USMC1775Nov10 12 points ago +12 / -0

There is NO fRuAD hRe!!! Mr Jose O’bidet is a man of the pedo and they were so excited to vote for a true savior and clean throaunflsns young tony. Where are we Jill?

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Dual270x 12 points ago +12 / -0

I predicted 10-20 million more votes in 2020 because of COVID/mail in ballots, and its looking like thats about what happened, just a bunch of votes were swapped from Trump to Biden.

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Madewithsalt [S] 5 points ago +6 / -1

Damn, nice prediction PEDE! Here's the problem, most people don't even pay their bills by mail. I don't think PA mailed 700k + mail in/absentee's. FRAUD!

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Only_Rosie_ODonnell 1 point ago +2 / -1

^ this

most people don't even pay their bills by mail

  • and those that do loath it. That's why mailing fees keep going up. No way USPS suddenly got their act together
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TenFeetHigher 11 points ago +11 / -0

The real question is checking the battleground states against non battleground ones. They will explain this away as mail in voting increased turnout. But if non battleground states didn't increase at the same percentage, then we have a more compelling case.

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Madewithsalt [S] 11 points ago +11 / -0

This will be my next graph / chart I make. - then compare that to mail in ballots, and the percentage of each. Compare that chart to a chart for absentee ballots in the past 20 years.

What percentage was D to R- compare that to this - then compare it to battleground states.

This is only the beginning of my TINY brain statistical analysis.

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julianleroux 1 point ago +1 / -0

Excellent work. This image has maximum power for making the fraud obvious. Easy to share, and readily understandable for normies.

I look forward to your next one with the non-battleground comparison, that will be even more valuable.

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Madewithsalt [S] 8 points ago +8 / -0

This is the case. Biden didn't get GOOD turnouts all across the United States - ONLY in the battlegrounds that had a PAUSE in votes counted.

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Only_Rosie_ODonnell 2 points ago +3 / -1

NY is the perfect case study. Biden underperformed Barry and killjoy by A LOT. 'ALL' his gains over 2012 and 2016 are fraudulent

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bushman 10 points ago +10 / -0

What this tells me, is that these weren't even "battleground" states without the fraud. It also explains why Killary was throwing and breaking shit the night of the election, when she realized they couldn't even cheat right.

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Madewithsalt [S] 5 points ago +5 / -0

They didn't expect us to show us up last time, this time, they expected it - but NOT at the VOLUME ----THEY HAD TO STOP and count how many votes they needed to win, mailed themselves the votes from unknown locations - brought them in at 4AM and dumped them, to make it look close.

Reality, Trump won by a FUCK TON!

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SurfingUSA 1 point ago +1 / -0

THey are only battleground states in the sense that they haven't cleaned up their election boards, yet, as have Ohio & Fla., and they had Dem cities (Philly, Milwaukee, Detroit) ready to plaaay ballll.

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Madewithsalt [S] 7 points ago +7 / -0

Not as racist as Bidens bill that put blacks in jail, and kamala putting black people in jail.

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Madewithsalt [S] 7 points ago +7 / -0

Thanks for all the support PEDEs - this is one of my many AUTISTIC charts I'll be posting.

I'll strech it out the last 20 years - we'll see the patterns.

Then compare to absentee ballot turnouts from last 20 years

Same with in person voting turnouts.

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DemonicSoap 7 points ago +7 / -0

Complete and obvious fraud, we will not have mercy on these cheating dems. LOCK. THEM. UP!

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Madewithsalt [S] 3 points ago +4 / -1

invest in 556 and 762 ammo - prepare the way you know how.

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DemonicSoap 3 points ago +3 / -0

love me some precious metals!

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trump_is_lord 6 points ago +6 / -0

As an AZ pede, this makes me so mad. Arizona is MAGA territory.

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Madewithsalt [S] 7 points ago +7 / -0

That's straight fucking facts. You cannot convince me to buy the shit popsicle the MSM is selling.

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Monetarymeerkat 2 points ago +2 / -0

In October I was visiting my grandparents near Cottonwood, AZ. Shit has Trump signs and flags everywhere. I don’t know Phoenix area that well but no way AZ swung blue this election

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trump_is_lord 1 point ago +1 / -0

For every 30 cars with Trump flags/stickers, I saw 1 of Biden’s. The AZ “results” are a SHAM.

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Tucso 6 points ago +6 / -0

Dude, trump destroyed in those states. Biden is a cheater!!! Cheater!!!!

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Madewithsalt [S] 4 points ago +5 / -1

You are correct, tiny increase in turnout for BIDEN in all states - EXCEPT battleground states.

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Supersaiyanbroly737 2 points ago +2 / -0

Gotta give it to the Dims. They were strategic in their cheating. Minimized the costs and resources, maximized the effect.

Makes it easier for them to get caught, though. But it doesn't matter if the can bribe the judges in these 3-5 States.

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Only_Rosie_ODonnell 0 points ago +1 / -1

NY is the perfect case study. Biden underperformed Barry and killjoy by A LOT. 'ALL' his gains over 2012 and 2016 are fraudulent

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Madewithsalt [S] 5 points ago +5 / -0

Maybe I should do 20 states?

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FrankensteinsNutSack 4 points ago +5 / -1

Do the non battleground states. I bet it happened all over.

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RachelTheDreg 6 points ago +6 / -0

They didn't need to cheat big in the other states to rig the election...just the battleground states. But I'm sure you are right...the other states cheated too. ALL Democrats districts are suspect...because they are run by Democrats who are all dishonest and were in on the steal. That's why Biden didn't have to campaign...the fix was in.

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MNMathtic 1 point ago +1 / -0

I wonder if it did, though. It seems like the massive ballot dumps were in specific cities in specific states. It would be even more telling if it didn't happen in the rest of the states.

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Hunni_bee 3 points ago +3 / -0

I'm certain that they (at the very least) had a portion of trumps votes going to Biden. Probably the 1.25 Biden weight and. 75 Trump weight.

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Sumsuch 4 points ago +7 / -3

Nothing strange here at all. You guys still can't seem to wrap your heads around the fact that people just hate Trump that much.

Oh, also, people love Trump so much that he made massive gains over 2016 as well.

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RiverFenix 2 points ago +2 / -0

You're delusional, if you think Obama was elected based on enthusiasm for Joe Biden. That's the same as your argument that Hate 'Trumps' Love.

Either way the left is fucking retarded. Hate is exhausting, so you'll lose.

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Sumsuch 1 point ago +1 / -0

You only read the first line, didn't you?

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no_further 1 point ago +1 / -0

I am high energy MAGA but I would rephrase the purpose of this graphic to be illustrating fraud in Minnesota and Georgia. In the other states listed, Trump had gains over 2016 very similar to Biden, just a little less. Such numbers would be expected if Trump honestly lost (IE: saying the fact that Biden got more and therefore it's fraud when Trump got almost as much more just makes us sound like an echo chamber.)

Case in point: Florida. Yes, Biden got 800k more votes, but Trump got one million more! Goes against your claimed narrative (meaning you have flawed logic).

Now Georgia and Minnesota look way different than the other states, so you have inadvertently shown something unique.

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Madewithsalt [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

Negative, they didn't expect the turnout - they figured by LYING in the polls, lying in news, lying everywhere, it would discourage voters from showing up, and they would blow Trump away. Once they realized the Demi-God they were up against...they knew they needed more.

They saw even MORE votes this time, so they STOPPED the count at 4AM to get their scheme back on track, and this time, they GUARANTEED Biden would win. Problem is, the flux of votes coming in is TOO insane for any statistical analyst to believe it.

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Alvysyngr 3 points ago +3 / -0

They overplayed their hand

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Madewithsalt [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

100% bro, they'll pay for it now

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koyima 3 points ago +3 / -0

we have to match this to population growth and registration/participation, it would really make it pop

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Madewithsalt [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

That's a great idea, I'll do that tonight and repost, hopefully stickied again

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StandForFreedom 3 points ago +3 / -0

How does this compare to states that were not considered battleground?

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123breadman 1 point ago +1 / -0

Maybe not as much since fraud didn't seem that outstanding.

Like in those states where they shutdown counting at night it only to begin in the early morning after midnight.

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StandForFreedom 1 point ago +1 / -0

A comparison to those non battleground states would be very telling on many different levels.

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mikethemarine 3 points ago +3 / -0

this is all bullshit, cause on the night of the election president Trump had 2.2 million votes at 85% of the vote counted and Biden had 1.9 million and that is when the vote changed and Biden took the lead. Trump dropped to 1.5 million and biden dropped to 1.61 million, they both dropped but Biden was given the lead. I still have the video

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Madewithsalt [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Send me that in PM plz, in working my chart

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mikethemarine 2 points ago +2 / -0

before you start it get close to the screen and write down the numbers cause it well change quick. CNN has modified the new one so you can't see it but this is my saved one you might need to back it up frame by frame to catch it itithttps://youtu.be/2oo8XK8JjyQ https://youtu.be/2oo8XK8JjyQ

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mikethemarine 1 point ago +1 / -0

get it quick cause CNN has a;ready modified it

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Dilaudid 3 points ago +5 / -2

I don't know why this is stickied. If you look at the Republican vote totals, you can see massive increases for Trump as well.

+400k in Michigan for example.

I'm not a doomer. There was fraud. This election was unconstitutional. But this is the worst "proof of fraud" I've seen so far.

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Captainlizard 3 points ago +3 / -0

Completely correct. The mail in vote allowed more people to come out on both sides, the problem is really in select counties in these states (largely cities). There was clear fraud, but an increase in statewide votes is not going to show it.

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Jakefoy92 1 point ago +3 / -2

I absolutely disagree. Growth is one thing in an election, but that amount of growth for a candidate that is LITERALLY the Average Joe, is unreal. States that didn’t like Clinton (which would’ve been Obama’s third term) went for Trump, Trump promised then their jobs back, which he delivered. So...why, now, would they want the third term of Obama?

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Dilaudid 1 point ago +2 / -1

The overall votes increased a lot because of mail-in voting. So saying that Biden got more votes (while still underperforming Hillary percentage wise) is not a proof of fraud.

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bidenstoenail 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'm gonna have to agree, grudgingly.

In Florida the chart shows Trump getting +1,000,000 over the baseline but that doesn't make him a cheater.

Yet for Minnesota something is definitely wrong there.

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Madewithsalt [S] 1 point ago +2 / -1

This was to show, that the numbers increased an unrealistic level, for someone who is SO low energy. I felt there was more drive for Hillary than Biden.

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Dilaudid 1 point ago +2 / -1

The overall votes increased a lot because of mail-in voting. So saying that Biden got more votes (while still underperforming Hillary percentage wise) is not a proof of fraud.

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SurfingUSA 1 point ago +1 / -0

The charts here show higher Biden %ages as well, do they not?

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Dilaudid 1 point ago +1 / -0

That's not a proof of fraud though.

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SurfingUSA 0 points ago +1 / -1

I'll respond when you stop moving goalposts.

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Dilaudid 1 point ago +1 / -0

I have never moved goalposts. The title claims this is impossible, while in fact, party vote total changing in elections is completely normal and has happened to Trump as well.

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truetrumpet 3 points ago +3 / -0

Compared that to Republicans, Trump increased everywhere compared to 2012 and 2016. Which makes sense if you run a good campaign.

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chillerspoon 3 points ago +3 / -0

It genuinely pisses me off, POTUS and the American people have been ROBBED of one of the most impressive landslides in political history. (even if POTUS wins a 2nd term) These globalist criminals couldn't allow it to happen, they don't even care if they get caught - they just couldn't let Trump and the patriots have an enormous election win as it would have resonated around the entire western world and given nationalist populism another massive win and globalism another massive loss.

FUCK THE GLOBALIST TRASH.

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Madewithsalt [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

That's facts dog

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Madewithsalt [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

I love it boyo!

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MeinDonald 2 points ago +2 / -0

Trump should investigate Florida once this is over and done with. Just like the total numbers in the other battleground states, nothing adds up here.

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Madewithsalt [S] 3 points ago +4 / -1

How does he gain in EVERY state by 150k -> 1 million votes, but somehow biden follows the same TREND ONLY in battleground states......

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Ninjavideo 2 points ago +2 / -0

Can we add turnouts to this infographic??

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Madewithsalt [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Adding now, very much cross ref being done, maybe done tomorrow. Adding VT, VTO and Registered voters

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Ninjavideo 1 point ago +1 / -0

The Wisconsin numbers will stun people

I’d also like a tally to compare to Putin’s Russia numbers since th eleft is so infatuated with Putin

Crazy to think that Biden over performed in only the states he desperately needed to win

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Checkmate 2 points ago +2 / -0

The jump in total votes period gives it away. From 8 million to 10 million in 4 years??

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comooragh 2 points ago +2 / -0

Biden is so popular he gets 100% support and 100% turnout. I see nothing strange about this.

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Madewithsalt [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Because he's so damn exciting

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SurfingUSA 2 points ago +2 / -0

*tl;dr Another wrinkle to madewithsalt's o.p. * Look closely at which states are negative over 2012-16 and which are positive for dems.

The fact that AZ & FL & GA were (supposedly) WAY up for the Dems in 2016 v 2012 **tells me the Dems had their fraud operation well in gear then. (2016) **

Why?

Because the non-rigged states went in the opposite direction -- In 2016, the Dems did not see the blue wall cracking in PA WI MI. Therefore, these states show the powerful pro-Trump, anti-Clinton swing clearly.

In 2020, they went batsh!t crazy in the Upper Midwest, as well. So PA WI MI get WHIPLASH going from a Dem drop in 2016 (or basically flat, for PA) to a Dem (fake) explosion in 2020.

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Mooma 2 points ago +3 / -1

Should really be compared to 2008, 2012 was low turnout compared to 2008

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Madewithsalt [S] 2 points ago +3 / -1

I thought about that AFTER I made this entire chart on Government time.....LOL

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Captainlizard 0 points ago +1 / -1

There are really interesting results if you go back and compare 2008 to now, in at least 3 key states. There is a strong case to be made comparing 2008 to 2020 numbers in Nevada that people were voting during this election that shouldn't be. The Nevada vote total should not be dramatically higher in 2020 compared to 2008.

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trumpmustwin123 2 points ago +2 / -0

a few datasets you might find some gems in https://imgur.com/a/HTwQ34W

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Madewithsalt [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Zomg you are amazing pede

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Snarfbot 2 points ago +2 / -0

Millions of fraudulent votes

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Chalupamancer 2 points ago +2 / -0

Wisconsin one kinda makes some sense. If you assume a dementia patient can get more votes than Obama did after 8 years. Pennsylvania.... Arizona and Georgia All that was stolen.

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mikethemarine 1 point ago +1 / -0

I posted this once already but I wanted you see it... this is all bullshit, cause on the night of the election president Trump had 2.2 million votes at 85% of the vote counted and Biden had 1.9 million and that is when the vote changed and Biden took the lead. Trump dropped to 1.5 million and Biden dropped to 1.61 million, they both dropped but Biden was given the lead. I still have the video

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Litterboxer1 2 points ago +2 / -0

I mean the dems are the party of racism and sexism after-all soooo....

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Jakefoy92 2 points ago +2 / -0

Wow. Not to mention, when Obama was “the lesser of two evils” in 2012, he lost a significant amount of votes and managed to win. The libs call Joe and Hoe the lesser of two evils, and yet not only does Trump GAIN an extremely high amount of votes, but Biden somehow beats that? With zero enthusiasm?

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Harper42190 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'd say florida is believable. Lol

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Madewithsalt [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

That's why they had to inject votes in specific states

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Thep1mp 2 points ago +2 / -0

“WhY wOnT hE JUsT CoNceDe?!?!?!?!?”

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Madewithsalt [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Fuckin dorks, hope they're ready for the 1776 part 2

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tardis 2 points ago +2 / -0

this is the most important thing i have ever seen here, exactly what i was looking for. THANK YOU SO MUCH

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Madewithsalt [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'll be adding way more analytics and info, I'm really a cyber security guy, but this stuff is interesting. I'm pretty dumb with stats

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1ValhallaJack 2 points ago +2 / -0

You don't just understan, I've said it many times, Traumalizanapure and this will help a lot. Focus on this man, math is racist---- Jill tells me I'm Joe Biden and I approved this messages

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GrabLifeByThePussy 2 points ago +2 / -0

Also in many of these states were to believe that anywhere from 400,000 to 1.2million MORE people voted this time than just four or eight years ago? ... In a single state? And over 8 states?