I know this is not gonna be a popular topic to talk about, but please, here me out.
I had a heart transplant and immuno-suppressed. Currently dealing with post cellular rejection issues, and my immuno-therapy is making me very susceptible to the common cold and flu etc. and I don’t do so hot even with those minor illness.
I am afraid of getting Covid 19, just like I was of h1n1. But unlike the h1n1, I am very skeptical of the vaccine for Covid.
Is there any other pede like me who is going through something similar? Or have I psyched myself out? I don’t want to be reckless
Thanks for the help.
Besides the obvious factors of avoiding closed quarters with people and eating perfectly to have the strongest immune system, exercise, vitamin D, zinc, etc, I personally would not have a vaccine right away until a few months of results pass. You won't even have an opportunity to take it anyway, because it will not even be available except to heath professionals and first responders. But why not just get HCQ onhand since 100% of early use is positive? https://c19study.com/ - the fake news about it seemed to be leftist propaganda. Thousands of people say it saved their life and I don't think all the worldwide studies of tens of thousands of people can be faked, unlike a US election. If I were you I'd train your body as if you're preparing to compete in the olympics and have the strongest immune system possible. But, no, I wouldn't worry either. Do all you can and enjoy life, love and help others. Happiness and low stress also boost immune system.
Everything you say is great advice, I am taking a vitamin D supplement, i get lots of physical actively outside camping, hiking and hunting. Self isolation is no issue for me, haha.
As far as HCQ, I have been speaking with doctors about that and they don’t want to start me on preventively. I want to, but the Dr’s don’t.
I will have to do more research (or if anyone here knows) if HCQ is processed through the liver or kidneys.
Long story short, my kidneys are damaged because of the other cocktails of medications I take. So my doctors are hesitant to put my on any med that I don’t explicitly NEED if it’s processed through kidneys.
Hope that makes sense.
Thanks for the reply.
Getting covid without any medicine is also probably bad on the kidneys- maybe it's worse? I only challenge the logic, because sometimes things sound rational but may still be illogical. For instance, people, including doctors will often say when you're sick not to take antibiotics, because it might make you resistant in the future when you're sick they might not work. But you're sick now. Why would the concern of getting well in future be more important than getting well now? I knew someone sick unnecessarily for a couple months because of this faulty logic.
Actual studies and medical papers are the only reliable sources to research the kidney issues it seems. Doctors will disagree with each other too, and best to avoid sources like CNN: https://thedonald.win/p/11QSCQv7W1/
BTW- if anyone needs HCQ on hand, this is a site that prescribes it. Could save someone's life. I'm not affiliated with the website, but know it's legit. You have to have it on hand because it works best with early use as it prevents the virus from replicating. All the fake news articles used to discredit it were late use and given insane doses on purpose- they were probably funded by competing pharma companies or other leftists. https://speakwithanmd.com/
Thanks for the prayers
Like I said, I’ve dealt with self isolation before during h1n1, but that vaccine was out quickly compared to this and I also trusted that vaccine.
This ones a bit more questionable.
Edit: grammar
ask a medical professional
Absolutely. Talk to your personal physician.
If you can shelter at home that would be best. I wouldn't touch that vaccine with a ten foot pole.
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt even though you're a new account.
You should be exercising the same amount of caution with the Wu-Flu as you would from the common cold and influenza A and B. It's not a magical virus. It transmits the same way other viruses transmit. If you're immunocompromised, it's the same level of dangerous to you as the others.
If you're seriously concerned, you should be asking your doctor these questions.
I hope the intent of your post is to not guilt everyone here to mask up and stay huddled in a closet under a blanket for your sake.
Well my account is a couple months old, I just don’t post. I uptrump and get news here. But I see how it can be suspicious, that’s fair. Thanks for giving me the BoD.
And no, the point of this post is not to guilt anyone into wearing a mask. I realize that masks do nothing to stop a virus, even an n95. Virus particles are much smaller than n95 can stop.
Like I said, I am self isolating (like my doctors have recommended) and I’ve done this before with h1n1.
The point of this post was too gauge if anyone like me is getting this vaccine.
The vaccine is the issue, not masks. I don’t know if i can trust this vaccine. My doctors say yes, but I don’t trust my doctors as they worship Fauci.
I feel stuck between a rock and a hard place, that’s all
Personally, I don't trust the vaccine. I'm 99% sure I got covid back in late January. Wife and I did both. Earlier in the month I travelled through 3 INTL airports twice. A week later I had flu symptoms. Then my wife got it. She went to the doctor and I just toughed it out. She tested negative for flu A and B, and covid tests weren't ready yet. We're in our 50's and well know the difference between a flu, the common cold, and allergies... We both recovered so now undoubtedly have antibodies for it. We don't wear masks. We want to stay exposed to it as much as possible to keep our immune system producing those antibodies. It is good that you are staying isolated and practicing good hygiene.
Stay safe, pede.
You will eventually be exposed to it. Supplement vitamin D immediately, almost everyone is deficient, and it’s one of the biggest predictors of how bad your case will be when you eventually get it.
Daily zinc is helpful too. Wouldn’t hurt to have some quercitin around if you’re exposed, or an hcq prescription if you can get one. Ivermectin has also been shown to be helpful, also prescription only, but commonly sold for livestock. Check out c19study.com to see results of studies that have looked into those and other treatment options.
Elderberry is known to be helpful for immunity, and you might also want to go ahead an get a nebulizer on hand, so you’ll be ready when you’re exposed. Search “mercola peroxide COVID” and you should be able to find details. Godspeed!
Thank you for the advice,
A nebulizer is a great recommendation. I used to need them as kid when I got sick.
A few others have mentioned vitamin D, HCQ, Quercitin, and Zinc.
I don't know about the vaccine, but you could be taking HCQ and Ivermectin & the Zinc mix to keep from getting it and/or wiping it out as soon as it starts.
Hq dude
Look up Dr Zev Zenenko. He gives the protocol for avoiding covid. If your drs wont give you HCQ, take quercetin instead. Quercetin (blasts your cell walls open) + zinc (kills off the virus + zpak (in case you get a bacterial infection). Plus Vit D. Everyone who died had low vit D. Please get out and get some sunshine or vit D supplements
I just finished responding to another comment addressing HCQ, vitamin D, outdoors and exercise.
I did not k ow about Zinc, or Quercetin. And actually my Dr’s don’t want to give me HCQ so I will have to ask about that.
I will also read about Dr Zeneko.
Thank you for this info!!
My 2 pennies: I think individuals in your situation, and similar situations, should always be hyper aware of catching illnesses. Just like before covid, immuno-compromised folk have to take extra precautions. I wouldn't buy into the fear porn the media is selling, BUT, I would think of covid as I would any other normal illness, ie: a cold or flu, and do all I could covid or no covid, to avoid getting sick. I am not a medical professional, but I do not buy into the doom porn of covid after viewing medical professionals articles and videos.
But how do you feel about the vaccine?
If you were in my situation would get it?
It’s a rough decision
Honestly, if it were me, I would not. ONLY because it's so new and didn't have the testing that vaccines normally have. I would wait a little to make sure people aren't dying from it, or getting permanent side effects. But I'm not in that situation, so I'm not sure if I would honestly feel the same way as right now. But I'm also not a fan of vaccines. I'm NOT an anti vaxxer, I'm not against the older vaccines that we've been taking for 50 years, I'm leary of all this new shit for things that aren't deadly.
Biotech-pede here (NOT medicine). here's the deal:
Do not get the COVID-19 disease
Do get the COVID vaccine
There are plenty of issues with the USA over-response, with government using covid to steal our liberties from us etc. There are philosophical debates to be had. There are LIBTARDS to condemn etc.
But it is very clear that, there is a real novel virus. In immuno-comprimised people, it can be a big deal. If you get the virus, and survive, then your body will develop antibodies against it, and you'll be immune etc. The vaccine lets you skip this entire process, and remove your personal risk.
The vaccine is just 1 component of the virus (it is NOT infectious, it can't replicate inside you, you can't spread it, it's not a virus--it's a viral spike protein only)... If the virus is a refrigerator, this is like just the door handle. It's enough for your immune system to learn to recognize and fight the virus (antibodies, immunity), but it will not result in the COVID-19 disease.
Pede, I'm as MAGA as they come, but it's not a bill gates microchip, it's an mRNA molecule that encodes the spike protein, and in ~90-95% of people, it makes them immune to COVID-19. It's a no brainer.
Hey, I don’t know who downvoted you, but you actually answered my question. Thank you.
I was honestly thinking it’s gonna be a bill gates micro chip, but bill gates did say he thinks he can reduce the population through vaccines, therefore my hesitation. If you trust the vaccine will be a true vaccine not a population control method then I’m all good.
So thanks for putting that at ease.
It’s too big of a topic for me to address right now, but I would strongly encourage you to perform due diligence before getting an unproven vaccine. Your bill gates quote is out of context, but I’d still advise extreme judiciousness before rolling up my sleeve. Maybe I can PM you some links to give you some fact-based info you can factor into your decision? Let me know if you’re interested.
Yes I would love good info on the vaccines.
PM sent.
Hey, thanks for the info.
I agree that those who the media censors have got some truth to what they are saying.
I will give it a read now.
Hope your thanksgiving weekend has been awesome.
God bless
Covid is a real disease. It is a fact. However, it is also a fact that the following is true:
Suggestion #1, try not to catch the covid. Suggestion #2, there are different types of vaccines. Different manufacturers, different techniques. Suggestion #3, probably there are some specialized forums that discuss vaccines for the immunocompromised. Obviously, if you will not get a vaccine, your immune system will not be rattled.
You need to take into consideration many aspects.
What's the danger from flu, etc. A family member has an autoimmune disorder. I've helped deal with wild swings in immune system from over response to suppression. The risks are always out there. There are lots of people who are recipients. I would look for them. People who have learned to coped with risks daily, but have normal lives. Just remember that the media believe it's their duty to scare the shit out of us all to change our behavior. My grandma always said "consider the source."