No way man, that can't be. The native people of every land on Earth led perfectly peaceful, utopian lives until the evil white man arrived. Everyone knows that.
I've also heard they had no diseases of any kind until the European arrived on these shores. And that since they had no concept of a boat, they literally could not see the boats arrive.
That boat thing sounds familiar. I don't remember where I heard that before. Where's it come from? Did a commie pull it out of their... random word generator?
Which is similar to that evil Cortez taking out the murderous human sacrificing Aztecs with the help of the many tribes like the Tlaxcalans who were mortal enemies of the Aztecs.
All these pagan gods throughout history have been demons exerting whatever force they can muster on humanity since the very beginning. I'm sure whatever demon it was masquerading as whatever-unpronounceable-Aztec-blood-god got its kicks watching them flay that poor girl and the resulting war that followed.
When I first watched Apocalypto, seeing how bloodthirsty and ruthless these people were to each other, I kept asking, "when are the Spanish going to show up?" Of course, the punchline happened at the end of the film and I screamed, "Finally!"
Or, and stay with me, humans are just fucked up because we're animals ourselves and you're trying to come up with a reason why humans were "made" to do something that wasn't "we wanted to wear her flesh because we wanted to wear her flesh."
Not every fucked up thing that humans do is because some "demon" is doing something. People like you sound like the people that thought epilepsy was caused by "demons inhabiting the body." Sometimes humans are just degenerate apes because humans ARE degenerate apes at our core.
Point well taken. I certainly don't see demons everywhere and start praying at every bump in the night, and I certainly acknowledge the casual atrocity of humans throughout history.
That being said, demons are real, I'm not happy to say demonic possession is real, and I wasnt trying to convince you or anyone of anything - just simply stating a fact. Where suffering and terror are found wholesale, there is a demon with a name behind it.
Where suffering and terror are found wholesale, there is a demon with a name behind it.
Ah, now I see! Stalin wasn't at fault for anything he did, that was all a demon! Mao didn't push his country into the state that it is. No, a demon did that! Soros isn't a horrible individual, responsible for every act he's committed. He's just a puppet of a demon! Clinton shouldn't face punishment because she's not choosing to kill people that get in her and her husband's way, it's all a demon's work!
Have I made it clear how retarded your viewpoint is and just how flawed it is? What you're saying is that no human can be accountable for their actions if they are bad enough. There are breakpoints in "evil" where up to a certain point it's all the human's fault, but if it's gets too bad then it's no longer a human's fault because it MUST be the fault of a demon. Human's are not a good species, stop covering for us because you have to rationalize away our capability for evil as something external "causing" it instead of humanity itself just being that evil.
Not that I don't love the condescending atheist approach, but you may benefit from the phrase, "you catch more flies with honey." I'm not sure if you're willfully taking my quote of context to make me seem obtuse, but I was talking about Aztec blood gods and other pagan deities. I was saying that gods like Zeus or Huitzilopochtli or Moloch are all the names of demons. If you want to discuss the demonic influence behind socialism in its infancy, we can have that conversation, sure, but I'd rather stick to my point.
I'm also not sure what sort of strawman you think you're arguing against here, but I never once said I didn't believe in free will. If I didn't, do you seriously think I would be part of this forum? You are the one generalizing, mostly about Christians or people of faith, not me. I'm being very specific. I'm not some European socialist or Chinese Communist who equates people of a certain ethnic background or social status with germs or mud. It's NOT okay to wipe six million Jewish germs from your boot. People are NOT a collection of response to stimuli. We are not animals. We have a soul and free will and we can certainly be atrocious to each other without demonic influence. I know I'm just a flawed retard here, but still.
If, however, you cannot see the strong influence of those very physical and material men you mentioned above on other people to do awful things for them, then I suppose it would be easy to deny an invisible, insidiously subtle and powerfully malevolent force that's will is done regardless of your ability to apply your five senses toward its reality.
Frankly, I don't care what you believe. I suppose it's enough for me that you voted Trump. Whether or not you believe it though, it's important for you to understand that our enemies - the upper echelons of them, anyway - do believe in this stuff and offer abortions and sacrifices to them daily. They utter curses towards GEOTUS and his family, and they really believe it works. Our common enemy is the left, progressives, commies, socialists, and globalist elites, absolutely. But, there is a spiritual component to our battle, whether you choose to see it or not!
This is a decent video but most of that guys vids are leftist revisionist garbage, disguised as being “neutral”. Especially anything having to do with economics or the military.
Natives literally thought the semen of the settlers could give them magic powers and that they were gods. The western world was the best thing that happened to anybody.
You mean like they are currently wiping out the Uhgirs so they can build a straight road through Pakistan to the Arabian gulf? Nahhh what are you smokin?
Insert another list of peoples who no longer exist because they have been assimilated into the Han.
Also, all of southeast Asia is dominated by this ethnic group making up 1% of the populations but 90% of all academia, economic activity and mass media.
We laugh as we take their women and they have been scooping up Eastern Europeans, Latinas and Canadians as their own economic power rises.
Keep your deluded laughing as they dominate our own universities and most of the West Coast, as well as your access to energy and ammo.
Cowards and cuckservatives like you surrendered the centers of power to libtards.
Step 2: Getting it out
Donald J. Trump is a liberal. MAGA is a liberal movement. We aren't conserving anything.
Those of us in the cities are trying to make you fly over retards competitive in the real world otherwise the same problems we are facing right now will show up again in two years and that's assuming we win the current power struggle.
Bring conservative values to the brave new world or starve in your meth ravaged hermit kingdom power fantasy.
Your type of conservative died out with lying Ted and Jeb! We made you into center right liberals like GEOTUS. You got out and became Lincoln Project or you were assimilated into Trump Republicans.
East Coast is everything from Greenland to basically Louisiana and and as far inland as Missiouri. You've basically told me that you're almost purely PNW.
I've lived everywhere including multiple other countries and I've never encountered anything as pathetic as the early 2000s conservative.
A billionaire liberal New Yorker has taught you retards how to fight and win. Our Mod team is mostly Upper East Coast and Coastal California.
Sit on your hands, cuck. Those of us who live where it matters are going to win this power struggle with our President while you retards smoke paint chips in Indiana.
I mean, it's a shame that the Spaniards destroyed so many cultural artifacts from the civilisations they conquered, but I'd be lying if I said that the world is worse off for no longer having the fucking AZTECS.
Exactly, the british empire had a way better foreign policy. Keep the artifacts, replace the natives, and conquer land. Up until they started fucking with their colonies they were pretty based.
Their mistake was exploiting their colonies to pay for global warfare dictated by a central hegemony.
They should have devolved governance of the colonies into a crowned republic of individual imperial states that contributed a voluntary militia to foreign war efforts in exchange for support through a unilateral infrastructure. Kind of like the USA is now, except controlling more of the Earth and having a single expansionist leader at the head rather than a two-party system that perpetuates political inertia.
Exactly. Who the hell cares if we conquered a bunch of people who'd been conquering each other non-stop for thousands of years? What was different besides that our technology improved their lives? They'd still be in the stone age if we hadn't shown up.
From the Wikipedia article on the Neolithic period (Stone Age):
Other parts of the world (including Oceania and the northern regions of the Americas) remained broadly in the Neolithic stage of development until European contact.[2]
Native Americans (or American Indians) don’t care about the New World expansion. They didn’t have any concept of land ownership and so forth. Karen’s made up the grievance about stealing land and all that.
But some of the comments read like enslaving Africans did them a favor.
In the long run this statement justifies sin. It’s a good thing the American Church was able to persuade enough men to fight their countrymen for what’s right.
It hardly justifies sin, It points out that they were better off HERE than in their own country where they would have suffered more.
They LITERALLY suffer in african countries right now in current day, while they Thrive in western countries.
Taking a savage people as your slaves is not making them better off: it is profiting off their condition and patting one’s self on the back for it.
Slavery was enacted for personal gain. It was convenient because the people enslaved were lawless and uncivilized. Corrupt men used their savagery as an excuse to claim that Jesus Christ was in agreement with them.
The Inquisition can do nothing with them: they're burning people next-to-death, then cutting their hearts out; drowning them; flaying them and wearing the skins; butchering them and eating the flesh.
How about this parallel: If church groups went into portland, l.a., seattle to the homeless camps, they would be doing the same thing as the gif shows. Showing them how to read and write, show them how to stay clean and how proper sanitation works, how to live without harming their neighbors.
I mean, at least in central and south America, they brought them Catholicism, so they brought them a fake religion of idolatry, paganism, works salvation, pedophilia, greed, corruption, and heresy. They didnt do them any favors in that respect, because they just damned them to hell through a different false religion.
Idolatry - bullshit, you're ignorant if you believe this
Pagainism - bullshit, you're ignorant if you believe this
Works Salvation - good luck proving that, faith and works is catholic teaching
Heresy - lol
Pedophilia, Greed, Corruption - humans are sinful. The idea that in any church hierarchy you are only going to attract righteous people is wishful thinking. Especially if that church is the largest and most influential church in existence.
So a video full of strawmen? The Catholic Church has added exactly zero mediators between man and God. The fact that it says that in the description already makes the video trash but trash I'll happily have a drinking game over.
I can't wait until the part about the Eucharist. Christ tripled down on that and yet prots still think it was a parable or some other shitty metaphor.
I said I was going to watch it as a drinking game. Probably based on "the bible doesn't say X, therefore this is unbiblical."
The problem specifically is that I've heard all this nonsense before. We Catholics have been dealing with the heresy of the protestant reformation for the last five hundred years. Pastor Mike from Bob's Online School of Theology isn't going to say anything new that wasn't refuted over the last five hundred years 1000x over.
If anything Pastor Mike, and I'm prepared to be wrong on this, is likely going to strawman every single tradition of the Catholic faith as he doesn't understand it. After all, these videos aren't made to convince Catholics, these videos are meant to reaffirm protestant heresy to prostestants under the mask of authority and sound doctrine.
So yeah, I am going to watch it, I am going to get drunk, and I am going to laugh.
Fun Fact: Columbus saved the Arawak tribe and genocided the Carib tribe.
Why?
Because the Caribs were literal cannibals and warmongers that hunted and fed on the peaceful Arawaks.
That is the 'evil' of Columbus, that the left doesn't talk about.
Get out here with your hate facts
Facts be racist.
No way man, that can't be. The native people of every land on Earth led perfectly peaceful, utopian lives until the evil white man arrived. Everyone knows that.
I've also heard they had no diseases of any kind until the European arrived on these shores. And that since they had no concept of a boat, they literally could not see the boats arrive.
That boat thing sounds familiar. I don't remember where I heard that before. Where's it come from? Did a commie pull it out of their... random word generator?
Quote I read from some tribesmen or someone that made the claim as if Europeans just magically arrived out of thin air.
Which is similar to that evil Cortez taking out the murderous human sacrificing Aztecs with the help of the many tribes like the Tlaxcalans who were mortal enemies of the Aztecs.
Appalling but sadly par for the course.
All these pagan gods throughout history have been demons exerting whatever force they can muster on humanity since the very beginning. I'm sure whatever demon it was masquerading as whatever-unpronounceable-Aztec-blood-god got its kicks watching them flay that poor girl and the resulting war that followed.
When I first watched Apocalypto, seeing how bloodthirsty and ruthless these people were to each other, I kept asking, "when are the Spanish going to show up?" Of course, the punchline happened at the end of the film and I screamed, "Finally!"
Or, and stay with me, humans are just fucked up because we're animals ourselves and you're trying to come up with a reason why humans were "made" to do something that wasn't "we wanted to wear her flesh because we wanted to wear her flesh."
Not every fucked up thing that humans do is because some "demon" is doing something. People like you sound like the people that thought epilepsy was caused by "demons inhabiting the body." Sometimes humans are just degenerate apes because humans ARE degenerate apes at our core.
Point well taken. I certainly don't see demons everywhere and start praying at every bump in the night, and I certainly acknowledge the casual atrocity of humans throughout history.
That being said, demons are real, I'm not happy to say demonic possession is real, and I wasnt trying to convince you or anyone of anything - just simply stating a fact. Where suffering and terror are found wholesale, there is a demon with a name behind it.
Ah, now I see! Stalin wasn't at fault for anything he did, that was all a demon! Mao didn't push his country into the state that it is. No, a demon did that! Soros isn't a horrible individual, responsible for every act he's committed. He's just a puppet of a demon! Clinton shouldn't face punishment because she's not choosing to kill people that get in her and her husband's way, it's all a demon's work!
Have I made it clear how retarded your viewpoint is and just how flawed it is? What you're saying is that no human can be accountable for their actions if they are bad enough. There are breakpoints in "evil" where up to a certain point it's all the human's fault, but if it's gets too bad then it's no longer a human's fault because it MUST be the fault of a demon. Human's are not a good species, stop covering for us because you have to rationalize away our capability for evil as something external "causing" it instead of humanity itself just being that evil.
Not that I don't love the condescending atheist approach, but you may benefit from the phrase, "you catch more flies with honey." I'm not sure if you're willfully taking my quote of context to make me seem obtuse, but I was talking about Aztec blood gods and other pagan deities. I was saying that gods like Zeus or Huitzilopochtli or Moloch are all the names of demons. If you want to discuss the demonic influence behind socialism in its infancy, we can have that conversation, sure, but I'd rather stick to my point.
I'm also not sure what sort of strawman you think you're arguing against here, but I never once said I didn't believe in free will. If I didn't, do you seriously think I would be part of this forum? You are the one generalizing, mostly about Christians or people of faith, not me. I'm being very specific. I'm not some European socialist or Chinese Communist who equates people of a certain ethnic background or social status with germs or mud. It's NOT okay to wipe six million Jewish germs from your boot. People are NOT a collection of response to stimuli. We are not animals. We have a soul and free will and we can certainly be atrocious to each other without demonic influence. I know I'm just a flawed retard here, but still.
If, however, you cannot see the strong influence of those very physical and material men you mentioned above on other people to do awful things for them, then I suppose it would be easy to deny an invisible, insidiously subtle and powerfully malevolent force that's will is done regardless of your ability to apply your five senses toward its reality.
Frankly, I don't care what you believe. I suppose it's enough for me that you voted Trump. Whether or not you believe it though, it's important for you to understand that our enemies - the upper echelons of them, anyway - do believe in this stuff and offer abortions and sacrifices to them daily. They utter curses towards GEOTUS and his family, and they really believe it works. Our common enemy is the left, progressives, commies, socialists, and globalist elites, absolutely. But, there is a spiritual component to our battle, whether you choose to see it or not!
And I'm supposed to be horrified by colonialism in the Western hemisphere.
<spits>
Where can i find this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEw8c6TmzGg
This is a decent video but most of that guys vids are leftist revisionist garbage, disguised as being “neutral”. Especially anything having to do with economics or the military.
Totally agree
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Carib
Hey hey hey now, no actual history is allowed during re-education and demoralization classes!
Not to worry, what you did has almost totally been reversed.
That native empire has withdrawn back into savagery, illiteracy, rape and crime.
They just finished looting and burning every one of our cities for the thrill of it.
They haven't resumed eating each other yet, but give them time.
South Africa.
Cory Booker actually just introduced a bill to have govt redistribute farmland to black farmers. South Africa 2.0?
Time to have Dolezal moment and start applying if the program comes to exist.
More like Rhodesia 3.0
Make Zimbabwe Rhodesia Again
Watch the Vice documentary on Liberia in North Africa. It's shocking.
Natives literally thought the semen of the settlers could give them magic powers and that they were gods. The western world was the best thing that happened to anybody.
Ask the cultures that got in the way of Chinese expansion which group they'd rather have been conquered by.
Oh wait
You can't.
You mean like they are currently wiping out the Uhgirs so they can build a straight road through Pakistan to the Arabian gulf? Nahhh what are you smokin?
Whoosh?
Kek
Tibetan
Koreans
Vietnamese
Indonesians
Cantonese
Bactrians
Mongolians
Insert another list of peoples who no longer exist because they have been assimilated into the Han.
Also, all of southeast Asia is dominated by this ethnic group making up 1% of the populations but 90% of all academia, economic activity and mass media.
We laugh as we take their women and they have been scooping up Eastern Europeans, Latinas and Canadians as their own economic power rises.
Keep your deluded laughing as they dominate our own universities and most of the West Coast, as well as your access to energy and ammo.
Inb4 IdontcareImInFlyOverShitholeClingingToMyGunsAndFarmLandNoOneWants
> IdontcareImInFlyOverShitholeClingingToMyGunsAndFarmLandNoOneWants
Seems you're still harboring some libtardedness. Step 1 is identifying, step 2 is getting it out
Step 1: Identify why we are losing
Cowards and cuckservatives like you surrendered the centers of power to libtards.
Step 2: Getting it out
Donald J. Trump is a liberal. MAGA is a liberal movement. We aren't conserving anything.
Those of us in the cities are trying to make you fly over retards competitive in the real world otherwise the same problems we are facing right now will show up again in two years and that's assuming we win the current power struggle.
Bring conservative values to the brave new world or starve in your meth ravaged hermit kingdom power fantasy.
Your type of conservative died out with lying Ted and Jeb! We made you into center right liberals like GEOTUS. You got out and became Lincoln Project or you were assimilated into Trump Republicans.
S E E T H E
So, anyone that lives in landlocked red strongholds = cucks & any fruit that lives in coastal blue strongholds = patriots... Got it
Reddit is back that way
Kek, didn't say that and you clearly want to put your head in the sand. Go back to whatever shithole you came from. Probably the Lincoln Project.
Tell Steve Wilson I said hello. Tell him u/PeaceThroughStrength sent you. He knows.
I've lived everywhere in the country except the east coast, and your faggotry is a choice
Kek, "everywhere except the East Coast".
East Coast is everything from Greenland to basically Louisiana and and as far inland as Missiouri. You've basically told me that you're almost purely PNW.
I've lived everywhere including multiple other countries and I've never encountered anything as pathetic as the early 2000s conservative.
A billionaire liberal New Yorker has taught you retards how to fight and win. Our Mod team is mostly Upper East Coast and Coastal California.
Sit on your hands, cuck. Those of us who live where it matters are going to win this power struggle with our President while you retards smoke paint chips in Indiana.
Mods just stickied an animeme. Alright time to pack it up pedes.
I mean, it's a shame that the Spaniards destroyed so many cultural artifacts from the civilisations they conquered, but I'd be lying if I said that the world is worse off for no longer having the fucking AZTECS.
Exactly, the british empire had a way better foreign policy. Keep the artifacts, replace the natives, and conquer land. Up until they started fucking with their colonies they were pretty based.
Their mistake was exploiting their colonies to pay for global warfare dictated by a central hegemony.
They should have devolved governance of the colonies into a crowned republic of individual imperial states that contributed a voluntary militia to foreign war efforts in exchange for support through a unilateral infrastructure. Kind of like the USA is now, except controlling more of the Earth and having a single expansionist leader at the head rather than a two-party system that perpetuates political inertia.
Youre welcome natives
but but but the traaaaaaaaaaaaaail of tears... and manifest destiny. reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Exactly. Who the hell cares if we conquered a bunch of people who'd been conquering each other non-stop for thousands of years? What was different besides that our technology improved their lives? They'd still be in the stone age if we hadn't shown up.
From the Wikipedia article on the Neolithic period (Stone Age):
I'll never apologize for having successful ancestors. Never
Shut up bigot, cannibalism is part of their culture!
Native Americans (or American Indians) don’t care about the New World expansion. They didn’t have any concept of land ownership and so forth. Karen’s made up the grievance about stealing land and all that.
But some of the comments read like enslaving Africans did them a favor.
Africans enslaved themselves, Europeans buying them from Africans did them a favor, at least in the long run.
In the long run this statement justifies sin. It’s a good thing the American Church was able to persuade enough men to fight their countrymen for what’s right.
It hardly justifies sin, It points out that they were better off HERE than in their own country where they would have suffered more. They LITERALLY suffer in african countries right now in current day, while they Thrive in western countries.
Taking a savage people as your slaves is not making them better off: it is profiting off their condition and patting one’s self on the back for it.
Slavery was enacted for personal gain. It was convenient because the people enslaved were lawless and uncivilized. Corrupt men used their savagery as an excuse to claim that Jesus Christ was in agreement with them.
Read what I said, not what you think I said. I said IN THE LONG RUN, they were better off, nowhere did I say they were better off as slaves.
So did the south, they kidnapped free blacks in northern states and forbade any confederate state from outlawing slavery.
Happy thanksgiving!
“Sorry for wut? Our daddy taught us not to be afraid of our
dickscivilizations, especially since they are such good size and all”“I see that. Your daddy gave you good advice”
“It gets bigger when I pull on it”
“ MMMMmm “
"Sometimes I pull on it so hard, I rip the skin"
Their sanitation was probably too good.
The Inquisition can do nothing with them: they're burning people next-to-death, then cutting their hearts out; drowning them; flaying them and wearing the skins; butchering them and eating the flesh.
The Judgement is Exterminatus via Virus Bomb.
Proud Western chauvinist is a powerful term.
At least 5 diff tribes owned black slaves
And some refused to free them after emancipation
lol
How about this parallel: If church groups went into portland, l.a., seattle to the homeless camps, they would be doing the same thing as the gif shows. Showing them how to read and write, show them how to stay clean and how proper sanitation works, how to live without harming their neighbors.
Oopsies
They say it's not the fact we "improved" their culture, it's the fact we "destroyed" it by replacing theirs with ours.
We should have just left them alone is the logic.
Also horses. They sure seemed to like them things. Also the wheel. I mean come on, they hadn't even figured out a wheel yet.
lol
Nevah Apologize!
Wyyyypepooooo be like!
I mean, at least in central and south America, they brought them Catholicism, so they brought them a fake religion of idolatry, paganism, works salvation, pedophilia, greed, corruption, and heresy. They didnt do them any favors in that respect, because they just damned them to hell through a different false religion.
Idolatry - bullshit, you're ignorant if you believe this Pagainism - bullshit, you're ignorant if you believe this Works Salvation - good luck proving that, faith and works is catholic teaching Heresy - lol
Pedophilia, Greed, Corruption - humans are sinful. The idea that in any church hierarchy you are only going to attract righteous people is wishful thinking. Especially if that church is the largest and most influential church in existence.
I took your bait, nom nom nom.
HA HA HA!
So a video full of strawmen? The Catholic Church has added exactly zero mediators between man and God. The fact that it says that in the description already makes the video trash but trash I'll happily have a drinking game over.
I can't wait until the part about the Eucharist. Christ tripled down on that and yet prots still think it was a parable or some other shitty metaphor.
I said I was going to watch it as a drinking game. Probably based on "the bible doesn't say X, therefore this is unbiblical."
The problem specifically is that I've heard all this nonsense before. We Catholics have been dealing with the heresy of the protestant reformation for the last five hundred years. Pastor Mike from Bob's Online School of Theology isn't going to say anything new that wasn't refuted over the last five hundred years 1000x over.
If anything Pastor Mike, and I'm prepared to be wrong on this, is likely going to strawman every single tradition of the Catholic faith as he doesn't understand it. After all, these videos aren't made to convince Catholics, these videos are meant to reaffirm protestant heresy to prostestants under the mask of authority and sound doctrine.
So yeah, I am going to watch it, I am going to get drunk, and I am going to laugh.