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We don't know why sister&family have moved in with mom. Probably a story there. Fact is, mom is both older and now having to deal with them 24/7. I'd cut mom some slack and save the blacklisting for sis and bil. Mom is just trying to get through this. Sis is creating it.
Always hold a sliver of hope for repentance. He doesn't have to give a lot, in fact, he can read their messages without responding, just not close all communications in case they actually wake up. I'd bet the sister and dude are freeloader victims and will cheat the mom out of house and home.
There’s not many of them to go around. And they’re not going to be alive forever. So it’s your choice, but you can both not forgive them fully and still spend time with them at some level.
He should just make up a story about his apartment/living situation and show up to the house and hang out there all week. Sleep on the couch, shit, shower, shave, make food. Really live there, if it were an issue they’d have to get a hotel for a day or two. They’ll most likely opt to not get a hotel, to which you reply, that you insist as you do not want anyone to possibly become ill and reeeeeally lay it on thicc.
I don’t understand what out of state has to do with anything. Covid is in every state so why do scared people freak out more about one city over another?
Well we rejected God and moral absolutes and started worshipping TV and government. I’m sure there’s a better way to convey what I’m saying but we really do worship entertainment, and what does our TV/media/institutions push into our minds except for degeneracy?
We've been handing our kids over to the government for 'education' for a couple generations. No need for re-education camps when the government is in control of all the education.
The whole public school system was purposely designed to reach family, church, individualism, and free thought with government, government, communism and obedience. Look up Mann and Dewey, the Humanists who architected the system. They were very open about their intentions.
Then remove all children you can from public schools until you can verify the 1776 project is implemented, and common core is expunged.
Oh gosh, yes, do this. Just show up. What are they going to do? Make you stand outside the door during Christmas? Don't let your sister have her way........just. show. up.
Even if they don't let him in he can just stare at them through the windows. If they close the blinds just stick around til it gets dark to make sure they stay closed.
and sing the star spangled banner or have it played on a loop. bring blankets and have them find you asleep in your car in the driveway. if mom still sends you away good riddance for good. show your mom all the guilt trips you learned from her, it will make her proud.
Same here. My dad basically said he doesn’t want us coming for Christmas unless I get a COVID test. Fuck that. I’m hoping he’ll lay off and change his mind, because I’m getting a Make Christmas Great Again sweater that I’d just LOVE to wear for pictures with the tree, but I won’t get my hopes up, because his TDS is terminal.
The test is a false sense of security. You can get infected while getting the test itself. I had to get one and I was shoved into a waiting room with some really sick people and one dude looked half dead. I refused to wait in the room with them because my immune system is retarded and I have heart issues. They had people with broken limbs waiting next to suspect covid patients. Makes no sense.
Yup. Force everyone to seal themselves in their houses, then only allow them to go to the store and to get tested while trying to pretend like that thats not how theyre trying to spread the virus. Having everyone breathing through germ filters for months.
it makes plenty of sense when you realize that hospitals get paid huge amounts of cash for every "covid" patient they have. They're literally financially incentivized to get as many people marked down for covid as possible. they get even more money from the government if they can get those people to occupy a bed in the hospital, and even more money on top of that if they can get them on a ventilator, which not only don't help but more often than not end up killing the person that gets put on them. Oh, and speaking of deaths, they get even more money from the government for every "covid" death in the hospital as well.
That’s what I said when I tried to reason with him. Why would I go stand in line with a bunch of people who think they have it and risk exposure when I have no symptoms? He had no answer. Logic isn’t as strong in him as he thinks.
And the test they like to use gives false positives at high rates. The inventor of one of the tests even said not to use it, but they do because they want increasing cases to scare everyone.
The biggest redpill for some is to sign up for a test, then never go and get it. And likely when it comes back and its positive, you'll have a non-scared family member in an instant.
Man I hate hearing stories like these. Seems like a sieve's been open on the Win here too and they keep on coming. Don't know what to tell you other than my thoughts are with you. And fuck your sister. She sounds entitled and liberal. Anyway, if it's any consolation... you can grow stronger from this. Last year my mom died on this day (thank GOD before all this scamdemic democrat virus started), my house flooded, and I discovered my TDS father in law was polluting the pool with my wife on trying to get her to divorce me throughout the goddamn renovation after the flood which he completely took over. All in all some real bad familial shit this year... thing I took away from it was I came out stronger, got my wife back better than ever, and we fired my no-good father in law from our business and my wife's cognitive dissonance with his nonstop leftist political aggression and general dick behavior finally broke and she's put him firmly in the Fuck You Libtard box too.
Anyway, again I'm very sorry you're going through that total unmitigated bullshit, but please take heart in the fact you're not alone.
I’ve got the opposite situation. Father in law was amazing, honestly, I couldn’t have asked for a better guy to take up that role in my family.
But my wife, and all her siblings, turned out completely different. They’re all hyper liberal, buying Michelle Obama and Trevor Noah books for us for Christmas and shit. They were literally the only liberal books I owned. Lol. I put them right next to my books about guns.
She refuses to talk to me about politics now. And I can’t keep my mouth shut and lie about what I think. So you can imagine where things ended up. It wasn’t like this when we got married. And I expected her to evolve and become more conservative over time as most people do, especially given that her parents were devout Christians.
Nope. The opposite happened. Maybe in 10 years she’ll see her mistakes. Though I find people are stubborn and often double down on their mistakes. My mother still refuses to acknowledge divorcing my father was a mistake, even in her old age.
I’d like to retain a relationship with my father in law, but I’m not sure how to now. Everything just seems so awkward. I’m not really part of the family anymore, if my wife won’t keep her ring on. But I imagine it’s very isolating for him too, if he’s explicitly pro-Trump, and all his kids are against him.
It would have ended much sooner than it did if I did what I really wanted to do. Lol. But paper certainly has lots of utilitarian value. Camp fire kindling... maybe a chew toy for a dog....
That's a hard situation. I don't know how you manage. I guess you could just not talk politics with your wife. Do you have kids? If not, that's a different story.
The choice is out of my hands, I didn’t manage, lol. And yes, unfortunately just the one. Would have liked to have more. But you really need a conservative woman to have a family the size I want. It was somewhat of an oversight on my part. I didn’t realize the rifts would grow so much over time. It’s been a roller coaster figuring all this out but there’s a lot of lessons learned. I would say I’ve come out the other end a lot better as a person. Realizing how much I value marriage, religion, community, and having a life long partner I am aligned with when it comes to politics and raising kids. Some people can be neutral on these things and focus on shallow forms of happiness in life. I can’t. I’m a political animal and it has a large influence on my life. And you can’t have two competing ideologies in a household under which you want to raise your children, that are zero sum from each other.
Lmao, I wish. I just put them in the closet really far in the back in the upper corner on a shelf when no one was looking. Haha.
I’m realizing I live in such a stupid and isolating part of America when I hear shit like this. In another 5-10 years I might move to a better part. For now, work comes first.
Keep an eye on the situation OP. It sounds like your sister is isolating your mother. Your dad is no longer there to protect her from being taken advantage of. I'm not saying necessarily your sister would do that, but the fact her husband has 1) not provided a home for his own family & 2) is okay relying on the elderly widow of his wife to provide the housing he should have provided...OP, red flags everywhere on this situation. Don't let this push you away from your mom. She's clearly being influenced to make decisions she doesn't want to make ALREADY. You need to stay in her life & protect her as much as possible. It's your duty. She's your mom & though what she just did must hurt like hell, she's not thinking right. Keep an eye on the situation.
I'm a CFP who took elder abuse law training this week as part of my annual compliance requirements. Everything in the story is a red flag. Keep an eye on the situation for the sake of your mother. Keen eye, Hunter.
Definitely. My in-laws handle trusts & see that kind of thing all the time. Unfortunately, it happens a lot & by the time most people realize what's happened, assets are spent, homes have been sold or mortgaged & the elderly family member has lost most of the assets they built up for their old age. It's a problem. I'm glad you saw the red flags too.
I agree with your analysis, but even if she's manipulated it's still ultimately her decision...he shouldn't twist himself into knots trying to protect her from herself 😕
maybe the mom is gaggy from old age or from pills. she might not be in her right mind..or being pressured from two people and just too weak to resist..fight for your mom..and use any tools that you have...does the in-law drink/drug too much? legal/money problems?use it to your advantage.
If you get out here to East Texas you'll be welcome. If the fit has hit the shan and we're full up because of Boogaloo we'll still have room out back at the boathouse.
Got a Tree up back there too, it's cozy.
Okie here and I don't think any pede should be alone at Christmas time. My family celebrates on Christmas Eve, so any Pede in OKC that needs a place to have some holiday cheer on Christmas day hit me up.
Same here. Saves me a 10 hour trip for Christmas. I don’t like my step dad anyway, so it’s kinda a win for me. It’s a shame my Mom plays along with it though.
Funny thing is, my youngest half sister has been a traveling Covid nurse since this crap began. She was at home for thanksgiving. I get the picture. Step dad always hated people more successful than him. He used to say “I’m happy to pay more taxes, that means I made more money”. Auto worker that never had an education and spent several years unemployed during the late 70s to early 80s. Whatever. He ain’t smart. I shouldn’t hold that against him. But I do.
My dad died earlier this year and my mother just spent Thanksgiving alone eating a tv dinner. Our asshole governor has her convinced that sitting home alone all winter is the best thing she could do. It kills me.
That is heart breaking. Lost my father Thanksgiving week last year, I spent the day with my mom, my sisters and brothers in law made a drive through appearance, but at least they showed
That's unacceptable.I have family members that are shit scared of Covid but they still visit, leave their boy at my house for baby sitting, come to family events.Even when it was forbidden in my country to visit family they would visit on the down low.Family needs to gather.
No, you have EVERY reason to be pissed at all of them. Especially at your mom for not putting her foot down. It is HER house, not your Branch Covidian sister's. They are clearly SO scared of giving your elderly mother COVID that they moved in with her, but you can't come over for a visit on Christmas?!?! You obviously make your own decisions, but if I were in your place, I know I wouldn't be on speaking terms with any of them for the foreseeable future. So sorry, fren.
I wouldn't be surprised if, instead of making her own decision, Mom decides to "compromise" and say, well, we could have a video chat, and it'll be just like you're really here! The best response to that is: "No. You told me I'm not welcome in this family for Christmas, so I will not be communicating with you this Christmas."
I'm sorry to hear that your sister is causing difficulties, going through something similar myself. You aren't alone in your experience and though it's small consolation you are part of a huge community for some support. That said, your sister has no recourse to keep you from visiting your own mother. If they are confrontational at home, take your mother out or somethinglike that. Yes it sucks but it's time with your mom. Hopefully this insane shit will go away soon once all the shit heads realize they've lost their fight. It doesn't however change the family dynamic how they could dare cast away one of their own. I wish you the best.
What’s stopping you from just making your trip as planned? What will they lock the door? Don’t let your sisters lack of critical thought work the whole family into a frenzy.
What if this is the last Christmas the whole family will have together? Time with family, and especially on holidays, is precious. Don’t let these doom-peddling faggots or their little programmed lemmings take away your family traditions.
Your mentioned your dad being gone. What would he do if he were in your shoes?
"you mean you really didn't want me to come? I thought you were just being paranoid. We're family, and it's Christmas. Well, I'm here now. I'm not going to leave without seeing mom."
The thing is, they are not alienating you. They are alienating themselves. Find others to be joyful with (like here with us). If they recognize the error of their ways, and admit it, show grace. If not, let them go.
What a hurtful thing for them to do. To think that people are choosing the notion of safety from a disease that's literally the biggest crock of crap I've ever seen anyone gobble up over their own f a m i l y is sickening. I'm so tired of people placing covid indoctrination over every aspect of their life.
I'm so close to just mask shaming at every opportunity
My house never turns anyone away for the holidays. Come over anytime, I'm currently boiling turkey carcass w/ veggies for stock, slammin turkey dumpling soup is ON THE MENU.
If you can find it in your heart, first of all, forgive them because all this fear mongering by the media takes a toll.
Second, I saw a report on my local news of long lines for drive-in covid testing as people were heading out of town for thanksgiving. The people waiting for the test said they wanted to put their families at ease that they weren't bringing in covid. That should satisfy everyone.
Don't give up your family without a fight and a lot of patience. There are many miles to go for all of you.
Family is important, but it's also important for OP to be very clear about how he feels. He is effectively being kicked out of the family for Christmas. Video chat and phone calls are not the same. His family is treating him badly, and he needs to communicate that.
I once had to spend Christmas alone (long story why). It was terrible. I cried because I had never, ever felt so alone and friendless. If OP's sister isn't willing to think of someone other than herself, OP has the right to be angry at her.
Let your mom know I'm traveling to a different state to start a new contract. I operate on people. Your families guidelines are far more strict than the hospital I'm going to.
I feel for you. Nothing like family at Christmas. This will be my fifth Christmas alone since my parents died in 2016 and my brothers disowned me soon after. I have a daughter I'd love to see but she lives in England and has been there 10 plus years. Haven't seen her in all that time. I have two dogs and a cat to keep me company though, and of course all my friends here on TD. Still not easy.
I think we've all learned that 'family' doesn't have to mean those that share DNA. Family can mean anyone that you care for, and cares for you. So many of us do not spend time with relatives because they are not FAMILY. They are relatives - we share DNA, that is it. I was once told that loneliness was actually God calling you, asking you to turn to Him. He is always there. God Bless
you should invite your mother to your place pay for her trip and leave your sister and brother in law to themselves where the nasty covid monster can't get to them
Consider how the Blessed Mary and Joseph felt that night when they couldn't find any lodging. Also now consider the wonderful fruit that was born from that cold night. We're your family too, and you're welcome around my campfire anytime.
That sounds tough. I’d have you over ! Idk how close you are to your family. While I tend to respect others wishes. Something about your sister getting to celebrate with her family and your mother while they are able make decisions like that is hurtful. I’d have a tough time answering the phone for people making decisions like that. If they care about the virus more than being around family let them! I know I would. But they better not expect me to answer the phone without some major apology.
At some point, I hope you can repair the relationship but it looks like it ain't going to happen anytime soon. I'm sorry about the loss of your father.
WE ARE your family now.
LOOK!
you got perty eyes
and a purty good head on your shoulders....Now keep holding it up high so you can see ass this MAGA Train continues on it's path fellow Pede!!!
OP: Where do you live? Don't have to tell me now.
I'm in upstate SC. If you wanna come to our place, we're gonna have a great time.
Kids will be riding dirt bikes and shooting guns with their parents.
Drinks aplenty if you indulge.
There certainly WILL be political talk: everyone supports POTUS Trump!! 👍
I'll send you the details later on, but you'll know the place because it has the most Trump flags in the area. (And that's saying a lot)
Lemme know; we can work out the security (no-doxxing) details later.
Sorry about your family; you can join ours for Christmas!!!👌
You make it sound like fun. Maybe we should all go!!
I'll bring a dish.
This is the coolest Christmas I've ever heard of.
And a goddamn kind offer to a fellow pede. u/FreeBased1 I salute you good sir / ma'am / xir. You MAGA!!!
Lol
WITNESSED!
would you just look at it
WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT!?
80mil family members here fam!
YES!!! Seconded!
I’d go visit my mom. Screw them. You have just as much right as your sister, if they’re scared they can move somewhere else.
Sounds like your sister just volunteered to solely take care of your mom from here on going forward.
If my mom didn’t treat me like family I’ll return the favor.
We don't know why sister&family have moved in with mom. Probably a story there. Fact is, mom is both older and now having to deal with them 24/7. I'd cut mom some slack and save the blacklisting for sis and bil. Mom is just trying to get through this. Sis is creating it.
Idk man, family is family. You’ll have to forgive this eventually. But I agree it’s bullshit and they should know how you feel about it.
Always hold a sliver of hope for repentance. He doesn't have to give a lot, in fact, he can read their messages without responding, just not close all communications in case they actually wake up. I'd bet the sister and dude are freeloader victims and will cheat the mom out of house and home.
There’s not many of them to go around. And they’re not going to be alive forever. So it’s your choice, but you can both not forgive them fully and still spend time with them at some level.
Fuck that. Shit-can them and move on. Their loss. I had to do that myself and I haven't had a split second of regret. The earth still rotates.
"The family of the twenty-first century is made up of friends, and not relatives..."
HOLD ONTO THAT.
The sister is separating the brother out of the parents life so she can lay full claim to any inheritance down the road.
How much money is on the line; that’s the real juice here.
BINGO!
He should just make up a story about his apartment/living situation and show up to the house and hang out there all week. Sleep on the couch, shit, shower, shave, make food. Really live there, if it were an issue they’d have to get a hotel for a day or two. They’ll most likely opt to not get a hotel, to which you reply, that you insist as you do not want anyone to possibly become ill and reeeeeally lay it on thicc.
I don’t understand what out of state has to do with anything. Covid is in every state so why do scared people freak out more about one city over another?
Because that's what the politicians and tv heads tell them to do.
But how did so many people lose the ability to think logically?
Commies in charge of the public brainwashing system.
Well we rejected God and moral absolutes and started worshipping TV and government. I’m sure there’s a better way to convey what I’m saying but we really do worship entertainment, and what does our TV/media/institutions push into our minds except for degeneracy?
The term for that is ego-investment. They are so invested in this idea that to attack the idea is, in their mind, literally to attack them as well.
The media goes to great lengths to get people ego-invested in a lot of things.
We've been handing our kids over to the government for 'education' for a couple generations. No need for re-education camps when the government is in control of all the education.
they never had that ability
NPCs are not just a meme.
The whole public school system was purposely designed to reach family, church, individualism, and free thought with government, government, communism and obedience. Look up Mann and Dewey, the Humanists who architected the system. They were very open about their intentions.
Then remove all children you can from public schools until you can verify the 1776 project is implemented, and common core is expunged.
Silly, it's science! Same settled facts that the coof doesn't spread before curfews.
Tell them you'll be down at the train station waiting for another family to take you in
It's a gut-punching scene, that hits you even harder when you go back and watch some of John Hughe's amazing films. I also love me some Uncle Buck.
With a little bundle tied on a stick ...
Just here to say it's been like this for me for 30 years. Knowing the truth and having integrity has consequences.
It's worth it :)
Huh, some mom! Sorry, pede
Sad they cant afford their own choices and lifestyle.
Oh gosh, yes, do this. Just show up. What are they going to do? Make you stand outside the door during Christmas? Don't let your sister have her way........just. show. up.
Even if they don't let him in he can just stare at them through the windows. If they close the blinds just stick around til it gets dark to make sure they stay closed.
and sing the star spangled banner or have it played on a loop. bring blankets and have them find you asleep in your car in the driveway. if mom still sends you away good riddance for good. show your mom all the guilt trips you learned from her, it will make her proud.
Same here. My dad basically said he doesn’t want us coming for Christmas unless I get a COVID test. Fuck that. I’m hoping he’ll lay off and change his mind, because I’m getting a Make Christmas Great Again sweater that I’d just LOVE to wear for pictures with the tree, but I won’t get my hopes up, because his TDS is terminal.
The test is a false sense of security. You can get infected while getting the test itself. I had to get one and I was shoved into a waiting room with some really sick people and one dude looked half dead. I refused to wait in the room with them because my immune system is retarded and I have heart issues. They had people with broken limbs waiting next to suspect covid patients. Makes no sense.
It makes absolute sense. They are trying to drive the numbers up. Good for business.
YES
Yup. Force everyone to seal themselves in their houses, then only allow them to go to the store and to get tested while trying to pretend like that thats not how theyre trying to spread the virus. Having everyone breathing through germ filters for months.
Blind fools
yep, hospitals get paid per case.
It makes complete sense. How stupid and ignorant people in the medical field can be astounds and scares me.
Oh, they're not stupid. They're makin' money, honey!
it makes plenty of sense when you realize that hospitals get paid huge amounts of cash for every "covid" patient they have. They're literally financially incentivized to get as many people marked down for covid as possible. they get even more money from the government if they can get those people to occupy a bed in the hospital, and even more money on top of that if they can get them on a ventilator, which not only don't help but more often than not end up killing the person that gets put on them. Oh, and speaking of deaths, they get even more money from the government for every "covid" death in the hospital as well.
The whole thing is a grift, top to bottom.
That’s what I said when I tried to reason with him. Why would I go stand in line with a bunch of people who think they have it and risk exposure when I have no symptoms? He had no answer. Logic isn’t as strong in him as he thinks.
And the test they like to use gives false positives at high rates. The inventor of one of the tests even said not to use it, but they do because they want increasing cases to scare everyone.
Did you see the sweater with Spaceforce? Search Rising
Yes, I saw that! I’m putting that on my list :)
The biggest redpill for some is to sign up for a test, then never go and get it. And likely when it comes back and its positive, you'll have a non-scared family member in an instant.
"The family of the twenty-first century is made up of friends, and not relatives..."
HOLD ONTO THAT.
fake one with photoshop he wont know the difference.
They don't expect Christmas gifts from you then, right?
So scared of Covid your sister moved her family in with your older mother?
Dick move.
Exactly!! If sister is so concerned, why bring this threat into the mother's home? Selfish.
OP needs to make this point loud and clear to all of them.
This is probably fair
Man I hate hearing stories like these. Seems like a sieve's been open on the Win here too and they keep on coming. Don't know what to tell you other than my thoughts are with you. And fuck your sister. She sounds entitled and liberal. Anyway, if it's any consolation... you can grow stronger from this. Last year my mom died on this day (thank GOD before all this scamdemic democrat virus started), my house flooded, and I discovered my TDS father in law was polluting the pool with my wife on trying to get her to divorce me throughout the goddamn renovation after the flood which he completely took over. All in all some real bad familial shit this year... thing I took away from it was I came out stronger, got my wife back better than ever, and we fired my no-good father in law from our business and my wife's cognitive dissonance with his nonstop leftist political aggression and general dick behavior finally broke and she's put him firmly in the Fuck You Libtard box too.
Anyway, again I'm very sorry you're going through that total unmitigated bullshit, but please take heart in the fact you're not alone.
Congratulations! That is a BIG victory :)
It really is!
I’ve got the opposite situation. Father in law was amazing, honestly, I couldn’t have asked for a better guy to take up that role in my family.
But my wife, and all her siblings, turned out completely different. They’re all hyper liberal, buying Michelle Obama and Trevor Noah books for us for Christmas and shit. They were literally the only liberal books I owned. Lol. I put them right next to my books about guns.
She refuses to talk to me about politics now. And I can’t keep my mouth shut and lie about what I think. So you can imagine where things ended up. It wasn’t like this when we got married. And I expected her to evolve and become more conservative over time as most people do, especially given that her parents were devout Christians.
Nope. The opposite happened. Maybe in 10 years she’ll see her mistakes. Though I find people are stubborn and often double down on their mistakes. My mother still refuses to acknowledge divorcing my father was a mistake, even in her old age.
I’d like to retain a relationship with my father in law, but I’m not sure how to now. Everything just seems so awkward. I’m not really part of the family anymore, if my wife won’t keep her ring on. But I imagine it’s very isolating for him too, if he’s explicitly pro-Trump, and all his kids are against him.
Should have taken them into the bathroom, ripped out a few pages for TP, and left them on top of the toilet.
It would have ended much sooner than it did if I did what I really wanted to do. Lol. But paper certainly has lots of utilitarian value. Camp fire kindling... maybe a chew toy for a dog....
that or throw it straight into the fireplace. probably discounted big time on amazon anyway.
That's a hard situation. I don't know how you manage. I guess you could just not talk politics with your wife. Do you have kids? If not, that's a different story.
The choice is out of my hands, I didn’t manage, lol. And yes, unfortunately just the one. Would have liked to have more. But you really need a conservative woman to have a family the size I want. It was somewhat of an oversight on my part. I didn’t realize the rifts would grow so much over time. It’s been a roller coaster figuring all this out but there’s a lot of lessons learned. I would say I’ve come out the other end a lot better as a person. Realizing how much I value marriage, religion, community, and having a life long partner I am aligned with when it comes to politics and raising kids. Some people can be neutral on these things and focus on shallow forms of happiness in life. I can’t. I’m a political animal and it has a large influence on my life. And you can’t have two competing ideologies in a household under which you want to raise your children, that are zero sum from each other.
I would use those books as target practice
even better...and film it...at least make some money off viewers.
Lmao, I wish. I just put them in the closet really far in the back in the upper corner on a shelf when no one was looking. Haha.
I’m realizing I live in such a stupid and isolating part of America when I hear shit like this. In another 5-10 years I might move to a better part. For now, work comes first.
WOW, 2020 turned around, and hopefully for the rest of us too!!!
Keep an eye on the situation OP. It sounds like your sister is isolating your mother. Your dad is no longer there to protect her from being taken advantage of. I'm not saying necessarily your sister would do that, but the fact her husband has 1) not provided a home for his own family & 2) is okay relying on the elderly widow of his wife to provide the housing he should have provided...OP, red flags everywhere on this situation. Don't let this push you away from your mom. She's clearly being influenced to make decisions she doesn't want to make ALREADY. You need to stay in her life & protect her as much as possible. It's your duty. She's your mom & though what she just did must hurt like hell, she's not thinking right. Keep an eye on the situation.
Watch for names being added to bank accounts. Check for ownership on the house or any property. Property transfers need to be registered.
probably convinced her to reverse mortgage it already..after all tom selleck says its ok-fuck him!
I'm a CFP who took elder abuse law training this week as part of my annual compliance requirements. Everything in the story is a red flag. Keep an eye on the situation for the sake of your mother. Keen eye, Hunter.
Definitely. My in-laws handle trusts & see that kind of thing all the time. Unfortunately, it happens a lot & by the time most people realize what's happened, assets are spent, homes have been sold or mortgaged & the elderly family member has lost most of the assets they built up for their old age. It's a problem. I'm glad you saw the red flags too.
Yep this is it
I agree. OP needs to show up anyway. “Surprise!”
👌yes!
I agree with your analysis, but even if she's manipulated it's still ultimately her decision...he shouldn't twist himself into knots trying to protect her from herself 😕
This. Ultimately it's her decision, And she might even be okay with it cause it's her daughter.
maybe the mom is gaggy from old age or from pills. she might not be in her right mind..or being pressured from two people and just too weak to resist..fight for your mom..and use any tools that you have...does the in-law drink/drug too much? legal/money problems?use it to your advantage.
If you get out here to East Texas you'll be welcome. If the fit has hit the shan and we're full up because of Boogaloo we'll still have room out back at the boathouse. Got a Tree up back there too, it's cozy.
Maybe Jesus will warm their Hearts.
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Okie here and I don't think any pede should be alone at Christmas time. My family celebrates on Christmas Eve, so any Pede in OKC that needs a place to have some holiday cheer on Christmas day hit me up.
Someone get OP a seat at their Christmas table!
THIS !!!!
HEY OP!!!!
Make another post lised the general area where you're from and ask for a Christmas invite....
WE GOT YOUR BACK, BROTHER!!!!
^^^^ Underrated comment. Dude needs to reach down and make sure there still there and be the boss.
This is the best advice, I think.
EXACTLY THIS !!!
Man-shit this situation and be the Alpha-Male.
Show up.
Have them MAKE YOU wait outside in the cold.... holding presents.
Let's see how long that lasts.
THAT IMAGE WILL NEVER LET THEM SLEEP !!!
SAME HERE, OP.
If you are near Central Florida.... PM me.
Christmas food, drinks, and a gift await.
Same here. Saves me a 10 hour trip for Christmas. I don’t like my step dad anyway, so it’s kinda a win for me. It’s a shame my Mom plays along with it though.
Her loss. If she doesn't want to see her son/daughter than it's on her.
Funny thing is, my youngest half sister has been a traveling Covid nurse since this crap began. She was at home for thanksgiving. I get the picture. Step dad always hated people more successful than him. He used to say “I’m happy to pay more taxes, that means I made more money”. Auto worker that never had an education and spent several years unemployed during the late 70s to early 80s. Whatever. He ain’t smart. I shouldn’t hold that against him. But I do.
My dad died earlier this year and my mother just spent Thanksgiving alone eating a tv dinner. Our asshole governor has her convinced that sitting home alone all winter is the best thing she could do. It kills me.
That is heart breaking. Lost my father Thanksgiving week last year, I spent the day with my mom, my sisters and brothers in law made a drive through appearance, but at least they showed
Fuck that sucks for both of you. I’m sorry.
Weaponized germaphobia blows . But if you must go down, go down swinging facts.
Let them know they don’t control the truth and fear is not fact.
That's unacceptable.I have family members that are shit scared of Covid but they still visit, leave their boy at my house for baby sitting, come to family events.Even when it was forbidden in my country to visit family they would visit on the down low.Family needs to gather.
Bro can you preach to people in Appalachia who live next door to their families and don’t have it dawn on them to visit more than every other holiday?
No, you have EVERY reason to be pissed at all of them. Especially at your mom for not putting her foot down. It is HER house, not your Branch Covidian sister's. They are clearly SO scared of giving your elderly mother COVID that they moved in with her, but you can't come over for a visit on Christmas?!?! You obviously make your own decisions, but if I were in your place, I know I wouldn't be on speaking terms with any of them for the foreseeable future. So sorry, fren.
I wouldn't be surprised if, instead of making her own decision, Mom decides to "compromise" and say, well, we could have a video chat, and it'll be just like you're really here! The best response to that is: "No. You told me I'm not welcome in this family for Christmas, so I will not be communicating with you this Christmas."
"The family of the twenty-first century is made up of friends, and not relatives..."
HOLD ONTO THAT.
Who started that phrase?
It is from actor/writer Simon Pegg.
I'm sorry to hear that your sister is causing difficulties, going through something similar myself. You aren't alone in your experience and though it's small consolation you are part of a huge community for some support. That said, your sister has no recourse to keep you from visiting your own mother. If they are confrontational at home, take your mother out or somethinglike that. Yes it sucks but it's time with your mom. Hopefully this insane shit will go away soon once all the shit heads realize they've lost their fight. It doesn't however change the family dynamic how they could dare cast away one of their own. I wish you the best.
Yah, he could just go anyways.
What’s stopping you from just making your trip as planned? What will they lock the door? Don’t let your sisters lack of critical thought work the whole family into a frenzy.
What if this is the last Christmas the whole family will have together? Time with family, and especially on holidays, is precious. Don’t let these doom-peddling faggots or their little programmed lemmings take away your family traditions.
Your mentioned your dad being gone. What would he do if he were in your shoes?
"you mean you really didn't want me to come? I thought you were just being paranoid. We're family, and it's Christmas. Well, I'm here now. I'm not going to leave without seeing mom."
WOW...... you are eloquent and brilliant.
Best response and comment I've seen in this thread.
OP!!!
Say THIS....
Maybe there should be... wasn't there talk about organizing sub wins by state?
Maybe Pedes who have no place to go for the holidays because of Leftist family members can make plans to spend holidays with each other.
Think of all the new friendships!
Maybe even romances can bloom.
Love.Win
The thing is, they are not alienating you. They are alienating themselves. Find others to be joyful with (like here with us). If they recognize the error of their ways, and admit it, show grace. If not, let them go.
You really articulated that in a good way
God is grace but we forget the other half. He is also wrath. 😉
Your sister's family moved IN with your Mom.
Yep, sounds like libs to me.
Sorry you are going through this. What state are you in? Maybe a Pede family will have a chair at their Christmas table for you!?
Tell us where bro, we’ll caravan and park out front your sister’s place with our MAGA flags
What a hurtful thing for them to do. To think that people are choosing the notion of safety from a disease that's literally the biggest crock of crap I've ever seen anyone gobble up over their own f a m i l y is sickening. I'm so tired of people placing covid indoctrination over every aspect of their life.
I'm so close to just mask shaming at every opportunity
My house never turns anyone away for the holidays. Come over anytime, I'm currently boiling turkey carcass w/ veggies for stock, slammin turkey dumpling soup is ON THE MENU.
Lots of coats for anyone who needs.
If you can find it in your heart, first of all, forgive them because all this fear mongering by the media takes a toll.
Second, I saw a report on my local news of long lines for drive-in covid testing as people were heading out of town for thanksgiving. The people waiting for the test said they wanted to put their families at ease that they weren't bringing in covid. That should satisfy everyone.
Don't give up your family without a fight and a lot of patience. There are many miles to go for all of you.
Family is important, but it's also important for OP to be very clear about how he feels. He is effectively being kicked out of the family for Christmas. Video chat and phone calls are not the same. His family is treating him badly, and he needs to communicate that.
I once had to spend Christmas alone (long story why). It was terrible. I cried because I had never, ever felt so alone and friendless. If OP's sister isn't willing to think of someone other than herself, OP has the right to be angry at her.
Hahahaha while they get covid waiting in line, or taking the test. Here is my proof I didn’t have covid when I got there. Silly sheep 🐑
I'm so sorry! It really sucks. Sounds like your sister, trying to be protective, has crossed into irrational territory, and it's incredibly selfish.
We may just be strangers on the internet, but remember, you've got friends!!
Covidiots abound! My grandson hasn't seen his other set of grandparents since March because he might give them the Chinese virus.🙄🙄🙄🙄
I live in Florida. You are more then welcome to come to my house for Christmas.
Let your mom know I'm traveling to a different state to start a new contract. I operate on people. Your families guidelines are far more strict than the hospital I'm going to.
I hate the CIA Mockingbird Media for doing exactly this to so many families, in including my own.
I feel for you. Nothing like family at Christmas. This will be my fifth Christmas alone since my parents died in 2016 and my brothers disowned me soon after. I have a daughter I'd love to see but she lives in England and has been there 10 plus years. Haven't seen her in all that time. I have two dogs and a cat to keep me company though, and of course all my friends here on TD. Still not easy.
I think we've all learned that 'family' doesn't have to mean those that share DNA. Family can mean anyone that you care for, and cares for you. So many of us do not spend time with relatives because they are not FAMILY. They are relatives - we share DNA, that is it. I was once told that loneliness was actually God calling you, asking you to turn to Him. He is always there. God Bless
Love and all the best to you. Pets are better friends and family than people.
Thank you for sharing your situation, Clabber.
I feel for you, and wanted to share this quote that has helped me....
"The family of the twenty-first century is made up of friends, and not relatives..."
You are truly NOT alone. :)
PM all of us on Christmas. We are a family.
Just show up. Fuck em.
Invite your mom to your house. Seriously.
Do not accept this. She is your mother. Say that you will be self-quarantined for 2 weeks prior to arrival. What can they say then?
you should invite your mother to your place pay for her trip and leave your sister and brother in law to themselves where the nasty covid monster can't get to them
I am pissed for you man, liberalism is a disease and it ruins everything.
The latest strain is especially insufferable.
Covid is communism.
An excuse for societal control, just like the Chinese do.
Consider how the Blessed Mary and Joseph felt that night when they couldn't find any lodging. Also now consider the wonderful fruit that was born from that cold night. We're your family too, and you're welcome around my campfire anytime.
Sounds like someone just saved a lot of money by never having to buy any of them Christmas presents in the future.
Send some to Mom, though.
Where do you live? I'm in Florida - weather will be nice too 😎
HEY PEDES why go home to be with family when you can be here with your loved ones!
I feel for ya man.
You're not alone bro, a lot of us in the same boat these days. Gonna have to start a TDW gathering in my part of the UK.
That sounds tough. I’d have you over ! Idk how close you are to your family. While I tend to respect others wishes. Something about your sister getting to celebrate with her family and your mother while they are able make decisions like that is hurtful. I’d have a tough time answering the phone for people making decisions like that. If they care about the virus more than being around family let them! I know I would. But they better not expect me to answer the phone without some major apology.
At some point, I hope you can repair the relationship but it looks like it ain't going to happen anytime soon. I'm sorry about the loss of your father.
Invite Mom over to your place for Christmas! Heck, invite 'em all, and see just exactly how concerned they are about COVID.
Sounds like the wheat and tares are being separated.
Harvest for the Master must be near.
Hell yea pede christmas is the best Christmas.
finish your plate, u/NPREEEEE