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posted ago by coolcoolcool +11 / -0

I'm sure we all have family members and friends who remain ignorant of the fraud and media lies. This is even worse in Europe, because access to alternative news sources is even trickier, and all our news just regurgitates CNN. What are some good examples, sources, footage etc. to redpill others about: 1: the media's: (A:) Bias, (B:) double standards, (C:) censorship, and (D:) clear misinformation. 2: some undeniably good things Trump did which the media never highlighted 3: undeniably clear evidence that the election was fuckey. 4: undeniably evidence that Biden is not the person the media likes to portray him as.

But without coming across as a nutjob conspiracy theorist? So preferably direct footage, or audio logs or smth.

I'm sure we all have family members and friends who remain ignorant of the fraud and media lies. This is even worse in Europe, because access to alternative news sources is even trickier, and all our news just regurgitates CNN. What are some good examples, sources, footage etc. to redpill others about: 1: the media's: (A:) Bias, (B:) double standards, (C:) censorship, and (D:) clear misinformation. 2: some undeniably good things Trump did which the media never highlighted 3: undeniably clear evidence that the election was fuckey. 4: undeniably evidence that Biden is not the person the media likes to portray him as. But without coming across as a nutjob conspiracy theorist? So preferably direct footage, or audio logs or smth.
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coolcoolcool [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

yeah this one is legit amazing. I'd love to see more debunks of these 'fact-checkers' made.

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ghost_of_aswartz 1 point ago +1 / -0

How do you deal with someone saying "anything you say against soros is antisemitic breitbart talking point'

or 'venezuela voting machines is a right wing talking point....the fired director of CISA said that this is Trump's last attempt to overthrow the election"

How do you deal with people who cannot understand or accept facts

And they say 'facts aren't facts, they're right wing talking points'

How do you deal with THAT?

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coolcoolcool [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

well that's what I'm asking for my post. What's the right approach for the process of 'redpilling' an individual.

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Belleoffreedom 2 points ago +2 / -0

If somebody wants evidence, here it is.

CNN crawl line shows vote flips in 4 different States on election night. This is from The Gateway Pundit, and if you get flak for that, point out that is video is all from CNN. At least GP posts its proof.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/four-videos-four-states-votes-switched-live-tv-away-president-trump-biden/

Michigan and Georgia: affidavits are evidence. An affidavit is a sworn statement made under penalty of perjury. Scroll down, pick one at random to read. I usually like to start with the last one.

Michigan https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/18693929/king-v-whitmer/

Georgia https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/18694655/pearson-v-kemp/

Here is one story from Pennsylvania, compiled by a citizen journalist, based on the results reported at the PA website. Mail-in voting was abused. This is also a significant cautionary tale for California voters.

https://twitter.com/local_aperture/status/1329720449127780354

Here is an explanation of what the judge did in Pennsylvania

https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/11/pennsylvania-state-judge-halts-certification-finds-likelihood-mail-in-balloting-procedures-violate-pa-constitution/

Finally, Carter Page has also filed suit, and the complaint demonstrates a win for him on its face. Biden was involved in this, too.

Page v. Comey https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/18694445/page-v-comey/

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crazyjackel 2 points ago +2 / -0
  1. https://hereistheevidence.com/? for crowd-sourced proof of both procedural and evidential proof. Remind them that the media said there was no proof.
  2. https://www.promiseskept.com/ for informing everything that Donald trump promised and kept. He not only got rid of ISIS, but got preliminary peace in the middle east.
  3. Refer back to here is the evidence
  4. Ask them to name one good thing Biden has done in his political career. Play the DNC debate clip with Kamala Harris calling Biden out.
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ghost_of_aswartz 1 point ago +1 / -0

The problem is THEY do NOT accept evidence, AS EVIDENCE.

You cannot redpill anyone. People redpill themselves. You can lead a horse to water, and then you can watch it slowly die of thirst, shivering in absolute fear of things that do not exist.

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coolcoolcool [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

omg thanks!!!

4 is very difficult, because we're European, so we're not "expected" to know much about the track record of the people at play here. Our news doesn't cover much of any of the primaries, debates, or interviews. All they know is how bad Trump is, and how he's made money by exploiting law loopholes and aggressive business tactics, and whatever out-of-context clips are controversial enough to feature online. All they've seen is Biden won, and Trump's making wild claims.

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hughesdude2 2 points ago +2 / -0

I find that asking more questions to find the root of their ideas is more effective than trying to counter everything they say with evidence of your own. When they make a statement, ask a question that further examines their statement - make them fully explain their position using the Socratic Method. If you are successful, they will begin to contradict themselves with explanations, and then you simply point out the contradictions. That way, you have never disagreed or agreed with them, you are perceived as just trying to understand their point.

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coolcoolcool [S] 1 point ago +2 / -1

ohhh, that sounds like a good idea. Still gonna be tough though, cus they'll point to his business practices and his "grab m by the pussy" statement, the Russia stuff, and then what.

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TheTuckerDiaries 2 points ago +2 / -0

Rudy’s official channel documents exactly what went on. His reputation is getting hit but his record stands. The New York we used to see in movies that made people want to visit is a result of that man’s policies and approach.

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coolcoolcool [S] -1 points ago +1 / -2

I'm not a big fan of presenting Rudy's channel, because it is inevitably too biased, and too easily disregarded as "of course that's what trump lawyer guy would say!". Are there any other, somewhat less outspoken sources?

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TheTuckerDiaries 1 point ago +1 / -0

Everything has bias, especially in these times. So you are afraid to listen to the actual lawyer who’s working on the case? Sounds like you’re worried about being called biased than actually being biased. How will you find less “outspoken sources” when the mainstream media itself is a part of a larger criminal organization trying to enslave humanity?

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ghost_of_aswartz 0 points ago +1 / -1

You dont'. You get away from them, because they are about to get violent when they start to get 'programmed' to believe Trump is stealing the election and running a coup (presumably against himself and his own administration)

You run from them. They already ran out the clock and the election was the red line. After the election you know WHO is able to think for themselves and WHO is NOT. You learn who is susceptible to mind control, who isn't. You learned WHO failed milgram's experiement, who didn't. You learn who is curious about the world they're in, who is NOT. You learn WHO is willing to participate in the new world we will create, and who WILL NOT.

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coolcoolcool [S] 0 points ago +1 / -1

That's crazytalk m8. We shouldn't make ourselves guilty of the same behavior we so gladly condemn from leftists cutting out conservative friends.

If it's wrong for them to cut off friends and family for political reasons, then it's wrong for us to do the same as well.