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TheMightyTeaRex 15 points ago +23 / -8

Assange I agree with.

Snowden... not sure on, to be honest.

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Oliver_21 28 points ago +29 / -1

Before Snowden there were top officials laughing at the question if our government was spying on us and collecting data. They flat our denied that was going on.

Snowden exposed all these frauds and corrupt shills. I'd even argue without Snowden you probably wouldn't have believed POTUS when he said he was being spied on.

Like Snowden or not....he's a fucking hero.

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bigntazt 16 points ago +19 / -3

Unfortunately thats not the consensus on here. A lot of paranoid old guard Repubs still hang on to the idea that Snowden is a traitor. SNOWDEN IS A HERO

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Oliver_21 18 points ago +18 / -0

My nephew is a police officer and just as Trump got elected in 2016 he was in this same boat. I flat out told him the only difference between you and I right now is that you are paid to enforce the law and I can think for myself. I told him Snowden was a fucking hero. He hung up on me.

Months later when Assange\WikiLeaks Released vault 7 I got a text from him saying that he saw where I was coming from.

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BlueBayou 5 points ago +5 / -0

Old guard Republican here. Pardon Snowden, he’s a National Hero. If Lil Benji doesn’t like Snowden, it’s all the more reason to pardon him.

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prayinpede 8 points ago +8 / -0

If i get what youre alleging , snowden is cia sent to disable nsa so it would be found out the cia was already doing that.

If it werent for snowden i wouldnt know any of this

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Cozette 1 point ago +3 / -2

BINGO!!!!! And then CIA aligned media, Hollywood and Big Tech went into overdrive to turn CIA operative Snowden into a hero.

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Perhelion 3 points ago +3 / -0

Fox News has them trained. That’s why now that many are no longer sucking on the teet of controller opposition, we are becoming more dangerous to the deep state and their unhinged control of knowledge and the populace than ever.

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TheWinningNeverStops 1 point ago +2 / -1

Not a hero in my book but he should be pardoned.

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TheQuickening 7 points ago +7 / -0

All three censored! All three sharing the truth.

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Cozette 0 points ago +3 / -3

Doing something framed as "heroic" can offer ideal cover for an even greater betrayal.

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Homopratensis2 1 point ago +2 / -1

Exactly. I've paid close attention to Snowden. He seems comfy where he's at and I don't trust him. Media could turn him into a villain on a dine and Trump would own that. If he pardons him it should be on January 20th, 2025.

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novacav 18 points ago +19 / -1

I respect what Snowden did but I am not convinced he's not a stooge or actor... blue check on Twitter, for one. Cheesy egotistical twitter bio. Whole thing could have been designed to normalize and soften the public up to the idea of being spied on and surveiled.

Assange on the other hand seems as real as it gets, from what I can tell. If he's fake then I'm pretty worried in general because anything could be, ha.

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lll4562984b 5 points ago +6 / -1

I'm with you. Snowden had a weird goofy vibe on Rogan. Maybe he's just kind of awkward but I didn't know how to take it.

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prayinpede 5 points ago +5 / -0

Big tech is.doing that with gen z. So many parents have tracking apps on their phones. They even know how fast theyre driving. I didn't even have a cell when i got my license

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novacav 2 points ago +2 / -0

Exactly about the news loving him.

What was his explanation for how they can turn your phone on w/ no battery? Built in secret battery? I wasn't aware he said that.

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proDeoEtPatria 3 points ago +8 / -5

SNOWDEN AND BRADLEY MANNING ARE THE SAME SACKS OF SHIT.

WHY TF DID SNOWDEN CHOSE A HOSTILE NATION TO EXILE HIMSELF TO, AND SELL OUR NATIONAL SECRETS? WHY DIDN’T HE CHOSE SWITZERLAND OR SOMETHING. I MEAN FUCKING RUSSIA????

ALSO THE DEMS AND THE LEFT SEEM TO LIKE SNOWDEN. SO, NO THAT POS DOESNT GET SHIT. EFF HIM

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BlueBayou 5 points ago +6 / -1

There was no other safe place. Switzerland would have handed him back to our Intel community in a heart beat. Switzerland is no longer independent. They are dependent on the US. That’s how we were able to force them to reveal the identities of US citizens banking in Switzerland.

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spacecoyote 3 points ago +6 / -3

Brennan, Petraus and their ilk were running an operation hostile to American values. Defecting to Putin (a patriot by comparison) isn't so bad from that perspective.

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Cozette 2 points ago +4 / -2

Snowden worked/s for the same puppet masters that Brennan and Patreus do. He's a carefully manufactured and promoted personality used to influence trusting elements of the public, especially idealistic truth ers.

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spacecoyote 2 points ago +3 / -1

And I suppose the janitors were also plants. Seriously who the hell would sign up for such a scheme, knowing they would necessarily be burned? Hollywood loves a good "USA bad" story and the NSA has other ways of doing....whatever the hell it is you're getting at.

edit: Holy hell, every single comment from this guy is "no u" tier arguing with somebody. Get a life dude.

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Perhelion 2 points ago +2 / -0

Before we all stopped watching Fox News, I thought it interesting to watch Brian Kilmeade literally go apeshit at just the mention of Snowden and he would start going on about how he got people killed, but it was without anyone soliciting that information.

That’s a tell for when you know someone is lying And it always made me more intrigued about Snowden because of it.

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Cozette 1 point ago +3 / -2

Those he worked for, including the CIA, gained alot.

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