I have no opinion on Shiva's claims regarding the election - HOWEVER - the dude IS a kook and a grifter, so it's best to thoroughly vet any claim he makes.
He claims he "invented email" - which is complete bullshit.
He likes to pull the race card when his ridiculous claims are challenged.
V.A. Shiva Ayyadurai is not a member of the MIT faculty and did not invent email. In 1980 he created a small-scale electronic mail system used within University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey, but this could not send messages outside the university and included no important features missing from earlier systems. The details of Ayyadurai’s program were never published, it was never commercialized, and it had no apparent influence on any further work in the field. He does not “hold the patent for email” or have a copyright on the word email, though in 1982 he did register a copyright claim covering the exact text of a program called "EMAIL." The U.S. Government has not recognized him as the inventor of email and he did not win the Westinghouse Science Talent Search for his program. Electronic mail services were widely used in the 1960s and 1970s and were commercially available long before 1980. To substantiate his claim to be the "inventor of email" Ayyadurai would have to show that no electronic mail system was produced prior to 1980, and so he has recently created an absurdly specific and historically inaccurate definition of electronic mail designed to exclude earlier systems. Ayyadurai has not even been able to show that he was the first to contract “electronic mail” to “email” or “e-mail” – his first documented use is in 1981 whereas the Oxford English Dictionary shows a newspaper usage in 1979. Despite Ayyadurai’s energetic public relations campaign, which presents him as the victim of a racist conspiracy financed by corporate interests, he has not received support from any credible experts in email technology or the history of information technology. His claims have been widely debunked by technology bloggers and articles based on them have been retracted by the Washington Post and the Huffington Post.
This entire conversational chain is full of assholes arguing deep red counties should be expected to vote Biden heavy inside the R party, and slamming email claim as some kind of justification.
If I misread yours, oops, whatever. I'm already past the stupid on display here. Friendly fire or whatever, it's a retarded argument being repeated up and down thread by a likely troll.
30+ year software engineer here. Shiva DID invent EMAIL. Yes, there were other similar systems at the time (that could only operate on intranets), but Shiva was one of the first (there were many) to actually send an "email" to a remote network.
And he did copyright the phrase "EMAIL". Therefore, he invented EMAIL.
I have no opinion on Shiva's claims regarding the election - HOWEVER - the dude IS a kook and a grifter, so it's best to thoroughly vet any claim he makes.
He claims he "invented email" - which is complete bullshit.
He likes to pull the race card when his ridiculous claims are challenged.
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20190518/23370542236/laying-out-all-evidence-shiva-ayyadurai-did-not-invent-email.shtml
V.A. Shiva Ayyadurai is not a member of the MIT faculty and did not invent email. In 1980 he created a small-scale electronic mail system used within University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey, but this could not send messages outside the university and included no important features missing from earlier systems. The details of Ayyadurai’s program were never published, it was never commercialized, and it had no apparent influence on any further work in the field. He does not “hold the patent for email” or have a copyright on the word email, though in 1982 he did register a copyright claim covering the exact text of a program called "EMAIL." The U.S. Government has not recognized him as the inventor of email and he did not win the Westinghouse Science Talent Search for his program. Electronic mail services were widely used in the 1960s and 1970s and were commercially available long before 1980. To substantiate his claim to be the "inventor of email" Ayyadurai would have to show that no electronic mail system was produced prior to 1980, and so he has recently created an absurdly specific and historically inaccurate definition of electronic mail designed to exclude earlier systems. Ayyadurai has not even been able to show that he was the first to contract “electronic mail” to “email” or “e-mail” – his first documented use is in 1981 whereas the Oxford English Dictionary shows a newspaper usage in 1979. Despite Ayyadurai’s energetic public relations campaign, which presents him as the victim of a racist conspiracy financed by corporate interests, he has not received support from any credible experts in email technology or the history of information technology. His claims have been widely debunked by technology bloggers and articles based on them have been retracted by the Washington Post and the Huffington Post.
I don't pay attention to his claims about email. I suspect he got into an argument and just refused to let it go.
But his election math looks solid. And he has a Democrat election math and voter fraud expert on his videos saying the same things as him.
Lol - an argument.
Dude popped up in 2011 talking about he invented email in 1978.
Those of us who actually sent email before 1978 were like ?????
Dude is a fucking crazy liar, and you better take everything he says with a huge grain of salt.
Anyone here that cites WaPo and HuffPo retractions as evidence of discrediting someone is just a Dem troll / agent.
You just revealed yourself.
No one gives a fuck about email claim.
Fool.
I didn't cite them as sources.
They had to RETRACT the bullshit stories they wrote about Shiva.
This entire conversational chain is full of assholes arguing deep red counties should be expected to vote Biden heavy inside the R party, and slamming email claim as some kind of justification.
If I misread yours, oops, whatever. I'm already past the stupid on display here. Friendly fire or whatever, it's a retarded argument being repeated up and down thread by a likely troll.
All I'm saying is that Shiva is a known kook and we need to VERIFY before trusting ANYTHING he says.
People here are desperate to find evidence of fraud, and will uncritically grab onto anything that comes along, even from a kook.
30+ year software engineer here. Shiva DID invent EMAIL. Yes, there were other similar systems at the time (that could only operate on intranets), but Shiva was one of the first (there were many) to actually send an "email" to a remote network.
And he did copyright the phrase "EMAIL". Therefore, he invented EMAIL.
Complete bullshit.
His system ONLY worked on the one university. Never across networks.
Email was being sent across networks YEARS before Shiva came along.
He copyrighted his program named "EMAIL" - not the word.
What the fuck happened to this site?
There used to be critical thinkers interested in the truth here. Now, we have assclowns parroting bullshit.