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posted ago by RatioInvictus ago by RatioInvictus +6939 / -0

I knew the moment that I compared voter turnout in CO and found that primary voter turnout from 2016 to 2020 increased by over 140% despite population increasing less than 5% that something was off. Now, I'm digging into all the connections, but it's a lot.

The more I dig, the more shit bothers me.

E.g.

All of these companies' employees, BTW, donate almost exclusively to ActBlue, Biden, Warren, etc, though some hide it (e.g. Monica Childers donated and the FEC log says she said she was unemployed, but her LI profile said she was employed by Democracy Works in that same timeframe).

Anyway, could use some help.

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ClokworkGremlin 0 points ago +0 / -0

This is an interesting case where I don't think you understand how a blockchain works, but you're still fairly correct.

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Klyuchak 1 point ago +1 / -0

While I may not be the most knowledgeable person on the subject of blockchain, I do understand it's limits a decent bit. I'm not saying there arn't ways to make it work and get around those issues, but getting around them adds a lot of complexity to the equation where even more things can go wrong.

A much better solution is just bailing on all these machines altogether, what's the point when we can have a open and free election with pen and paper? Why add layer after layer of potential vulnerability?

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ClokworkGremlin 0 points ago +0 / -0

Speed, mostly. Also, pen and paper still has the question of trust. That's why we have poll watchers, is because you can't trust the tallyers. We've got them changing votes on video this election.

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Klyuchak 1 point ago +1 / -0

But is there really any speed benefit when we have to go back and count them by hand to know they didn't cheat? Even as simple as it is now a lot of people have no clue how these machines work, and even if you explained every detail a lot would still be completely lost. I don't think the solution is to obfiscate it even more and have the select few people who truly understand blockchain in some authoritative postion for elections, I think we are much better having everything out wide in the open, and I don't think you can get much better than pen and paper for being in the open.

And having an electronic system that is truly secure inside and out wouldn't be nearly as quick and effecient as the prcoess is now, because at the end of the day you have to balance security with convinience. And I'm VERY doubtful somthing that is actually fully secure and anonymous would be any faster than pen and paper.