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I just say that the "news" is a television show ran by the same networks that are always trying to sell you something. There's no law about what they need to run, and there's no real laws AGAINST running false stories unless someone can sue over it, which rarely happens because they have billions of dollars in ad revenue. There's nothing about the "news" that makes it authoritative other than what people have been convinced to believe through them selling you their legitimacy with big words and people in suits. They exist to get you to watch, not to inform you.
That type of thing tends to at least make them think a little. But it's hard when people literally don't believe their own eyes.
There's nothing about the "news" that makes it authoritative other than what people have been convinced to believe through them selling you their legitimacy with big words and people in suits.
I hear you, but most people are convinced that the “news” is so powerful, they decide the outcome of elections.
I think it’s going to take most people seeing with their own eyes what is coming before they’ll ever believe we were right.
You are right on needing to see it for yourself. Before GamerGate I was a communist just like most of my family. Then I saw how some Game dev was sleeping around with reviewers, joined others calling them out, then witnessed the Gaming Media circle the wagons. People started digging up information showing how incesteous these journals were and next thing I know, it makes national news and I am called every bad name in the book: Nazi, Sexist, Misogynist.
If I wasn't a part of GG from the start, I never would've woken up. For a lefty like I was, you need to be in the crosshairs before it clicks "If they lied about me being a Nazi, who else did they lie about being Nazis..." That question swung me so hard to the right that I realized we haven't had a Conservative in power for centuries.
Girl programmer creates shitty game. Shitty game somehow gets great reviews. Autists find out Girl slept with reviewers. Autists complain to Reviewer's publisher, Kotaku. Kotaku tells them to piss off. Gamers get angry at Kotaku. Gaming media rushes to Kotaku's defence. Autists find out gaming media collaborate with each other through some digging. MSM starts sweating bullets since not only is this the first time a group opposed the Long March Through the Institutions in decades, but gamers also discovered that Media collaborates to create a narrative. MSM helps Gaming rags by doubling down on the collusion. Gamers are painted as Nazi Sexist Trolls and Girl programmer is made a Saint second to Floyd. Bunch of us realize that we tripped over the curtain that was the deep state's propaganda arm because of some slut.
And this is why you can never turn a blind eye to this bullshit again. Because eventually, no matter how much you want to walk on egg shells and be PC, the left will find something to target you and now you become the "Nazi". They will always bring the fight to your doorstep until people punch back.
•Sleep with five guys (burgers and fries) and get a game 5 stars!
•Call it out and now you’re literally Hitler
•No matter how much proof you show, media never shows it
Very similar to what we see now except now it’s on a MUCH bigger scale
The timing was very interesting because people looking up corruption were prepared for it in 2016 a year and a half before with Gamergate acting like training wheels
Yes, lol. That was super annoying. As a disclaimer, I have no idea who the guy doing the video is, I just looked up some videos on gamergate and sent the first one that actually about what happened. Nails on a chalkboard in that first bit, not gonna lie. 😩
You are right on the money. There were quite a few people I knew who also were part of GG when it started that folded like a house of cards once the message went out that GGers were Nazis. They still believed something was fishy, but because it was verbotten to say so and they didn't want to be on the "wrong side of history" they stopped. They simultaneously held the belief that the gaming media was corrupt, but that we shouldn't investigate further because the gaming media said those who did were Nazis.
This is a pattern I've noticed a lot recently. My wife and I are watching Mr. Robot. Generally speaking, it's a good show. The writing, characters and dialogue are pretty well done. It delves deep into human psychology and trauma and the characters feel complex and flawed. It's far better television than most of what passes for tv nowadays. However, the politics of it are the most brain dead thing you'll ever witness.
The story is about a left-wing anarchist hacker trying to take down what is essentially the deep state. At first he's going after a corporation, but soon discovers it is a front for a deep state like organization. It is made very clear that the media is owned and pushes narratives that the deep state wants them to push. The show also paints Trump as part of this evil cabal of deep staters. It takes several shots at him and paints him in the most negative light possible, even going so far as to have him installed by China in their storyline. Talk about irony. The same show has a million opportunities to paint Obama as part of this cabal and refuses to do so. They treat Obama as just some President trying to do President things.
Basically, the show is written by people who are very cynical about corporations and news media, but also bought into every lie those organizations told about Trump and Obama.
I think the band Green Day is another good example of this. Their song "American Idiot" has the line that America is "one nation controlled by the media" and yet this is the band that started the "No Trump, No KKK, No Fascist USA" chant that all the TDS idiots have used for the past 4 years.
The cognitive dissonance is just astounding. It's the kind of thing you wish academia would study, but you know they never will.
It was actually MDC that kind of started the chant as they sang, "No war, no KKK, no fascist USA" back in the 80's, but yes, I completely agree with the points you make.
Yuri Bezmenov’s books & videos are a “must” if you want to understand the Commie game plan. He has opened many eyes and was a big contributor to the Red Pill I took.
There really is no such thing as "too late". There may be a point where it's too late to avoid war or one side creating death camps, but those things can be stopped. The Nazis were stopped. The Soviets were stopped. Countries like Cuba, Venezuela, Iran, and China can be liberated if the world wanted it. The only "too late" scenerio I can think of is a nuclear holocaust.
Agreed. People who say it’s too late forget that the people who want to rule don’t want to rule over a bombed out wasteland or a stack of corpses. They do all the evil shit they do in order to defeat the people who will resist them, not to kill everyone.
I know what you're saying, but there actually is a "too late" point. And we're pretty damned near it.
Those examples you gave required external forces, i.e. "free countries", to fight against and eventually dismantle the oppressive regimes. In fact, the US was responsible for pretty much all of it.
What's going on now is that the last "free country", the USA, is under attack. And if we fall under the boot of communist oppression, there won't be anyone out there to come save our asses.
I don't think we'll lose though, even it does come to a hot civil war. But these are the stakes we're playing with.
Just wait until you figure out that "nazis" were lied about too. Keep in mind that the losers don't get to write history. The winners do. And unfortunately, the winners also control the media, news, international banks, and have their tentacles wrapped around politicians in every country that matters.
Can you imagine how the left would write about us and Trump if they seized final power? How their history books would record the 2020 election? What they would say about our views on not-white races?
Absolutely. It is a very real concern. If the left (and the MSM) wins this culture war, we will go down in history as some of the most evil people to ever exist. They already make up all kinds of lies about us and who we are as people. If we lose, they will be able to make up even more. It will be endless amounts of bullshit, and future generations will study it in school and think we're pure evil. And freedom will be truly lost, because no one will ever dare to be a "patriot" ever again.
Sad when the system has to bitch slap you to get the point. Hoping Jan 20 will be a big awakening slap to the greater public, and that you’re not the only one left who can see what falls in front of your face and not deny it exists.
You brought up a really good point. In order to see through the lies, the gaslighting needs to be about something you already know a lot about.
Problem with politics and COVID-related science is that most people know very little about either, so they just accept whatever some random person in the news tells them.
keep fighting the good fight man, you're not going to convince many people right then and there on the first attempt, look at stories from other pedes. Been battling it out with their family for years then suddenly receive calls or texts saying their voting for Trump. It can be taxing though, I find the good ol socratic method to be the most laid back, you have to stimulate their smooth brains into actually thinking for themselves, just shoot every point or question they raise with another question that guides them to the truth, when they just screech at you that you're wrong and a bigot thats when you'll know to leave, just keep watering the seed every so often lol
I've got a bunch of Biden voters in my extended family who are convinced that their warm houses, full refridgerators, and prompt medical care are God given guarantees in their life, and just sneer and laugh at those who don't have any hope of ever being able to earn a fraction of the riches they've taken for granted. I fully expect them to blame the sensible side of the family and others like us once their endless comfort is disrupted by their own stupid choices.
Cuomo is the Governor of NYC, the epicenter of the U.S. COVID deaths, and he's getting an Emmy while passing the blame of the virus onto the man who Constitutionally cannot control the States response.
Fortunately most people now distrust the media. Alot. Even better, now that Trump overwhelmingly won reelection, the media and their flocks of sheeple are irrelevant. Finally, Trumps September 12, 2018 EO allows him to legally seize the assets of any company, group or individual who helped foreign actors to interfere in our election. The EO specifically lists spreading propaganda and disinformation as help that allows assets to be frozen. Thankfully GEOTUS is VERY patient, methodical and RUTHLESS. Hes enjoying the righteous destruction of our smug yet profoundly stupid adversaries. So am I.
Most people here on TD do. But in the wider world, great swaths of low-information Americans still think that the TeeVee only broadcasts the Word of God.
Remember that poll where something like 13% of people trust the media? Sure, who trust polls (lol), but these idiots on the left choose who to trust, while the right are sus of the whole lot of them.
To those citizens who grew up in the Walter Cronkite era, it Would be on the news. Things have changed in the news “business” to make it entertainment for profit, not civic duty.
Cronkite turned America against the Vietnam War singlehandedly. He was right, but for the wrong reasons. He was a solid Democrat, but he was more of the Hubert Humphrey mold.
The media was moderate left until the Reagan Administration. They slaughtered Nixon and Joe McCarthy and anybody that met their party's furor, but you could listen to or read them without going insane. There were moderately conservative papers worth reading until the mid eighties.
They went insane to elect Dukakis and destroyed Dan Quayle in 1988. When they lost they went berserk and enjoined with the Clintons. It's been total left wing deluge ever since.
Really? You should take a second look at Watergate which happened in the Cronkite era. What they did to Nixon was the prototype for what they’ve done to Trump. Shit they killed a president on national television in the Cronkite era.
Not true. The corruption at the highest levels runs so deep and so far back. Shit was even worse then because people didn't have outlets like TDwin to circumvent the media.
The media wouldn't have been. We're only now finding about it because of the internet the ability to collaborate with large amounts of people in a shorter time span. Communication and information are traveling at a rate in which the MSM cannot control as well as they could before. And they're slipping a little more and a little more. Which is why the democrats and other members of the borg are trying to lock down and control the internet now.
Cronkite was a commie the whole time. The media has always been left, the difference is that before the internet, fewer people were able to freely compare notes. Now fraud is out in daylight, running rampant, and people think it's new.
I think it would be a good approach to point out what Trump just did in the Maria B. interview - that local news channels are covering these questions a lot more than national news. Would probably be a good idea to have a list handy of local news coverage of fraud in AZ, WI, VA and so on, especially articles that were published closer to election day.
I usually tell them "So if it is in the news it must be true and if it isnt in the news, it never happened?"...they usually say "well yeah"...I'll then reply back with how many times you hear about a family member dying, but isnt on the 10:00 news, does that mean the person is still alive?....they become enraged at this point and start saying "but muh news wouldnt lie to me because talking head looks friendly"...then you have to explain that the person on TV reads a screen written by some journalist flunkie and approved by a producer who is even dumber than flunkie journalist....people have no clue how sloppy joirnalism is or how rigged it is.
People can't imagine the entire media establishment is nothing but deep state propaganda. The scale of it is almost incomprehensible. It's the sort of thing it that can take years to come to terms with and something you've got to learn for yourself.
The good news is at least 80 million people, and counting, have learned better. As someone who has been aware of this shit since the mid 90's, what's happening now is a damn maricle. A Great Awakening is upon us.
When Trump remains in power and exposes this fraud, a lot more of these people will wake up too. So keep planting seeds in their minds. Time will prove you correct.
People can't imagine the entire media establishment is nothing but deep state propaganda. The scale of it is almost incomprehensible. It's the sort of thing it that can take years to come to terms with and something you've got to learn for yourself.
Truth is, the news business began specifically to promote propaganda. Have a read on that sometime. Its not like its a new thing. I realized in college that what the media doesn’t report is more important than what it does.
Napoleon started one of the first newspapers in France to spread word of his exploits to everyone. If something good happened it was a tremendous feat and if something bad happened it was a win from the jaws of defeat.
Eventually reading of his exploits became a French past time. When he initiated a coup against the incompetent government that everyone hated the people just didn't care but did remember Napoleon's exploits and him being a hero so no counter resistance happened.
If you ever go on a tour of Hurst Castle (CA) they talk about the link between news/ business/propaganda and how lucrative it is. That castle was built 100 years ago.
No worries their vote didn’t really matter. Just like ours didn’t really matter. Yay for the communist masters who pick our leaders with their overpowering wisdom.... NOT
You mean the liberal ran education system failed? You mean giving every kid a first place ribbon caused a shit ton of future harm, mainly so the parents wouldn't be embarrassed that their kid got last place in the race?
We have to allow men to become stern again. Not angry. Not mean. Not violent. Respect. Hard work. Perseverance. Character. These traits are gone. Just a bunch of pussies who throw temper tantrums when they get what they deserve. I'm not taking about the children by the way. Fuck liberals. Every single one.
I graduated in 2018. I'll tell you this, school was a breeze. It was so easy and so mindless, that I never had to work hard. Band was also held to a low standard, so I never had to work hard there either. I went to college for a little while, which was significantly more challenging and stimulating, but ultimately everything was curved so if you had a pulse you could make it with no effort.
The hardest realization of becoming an adult is the fact that to get things done, you need to work really hard. Nothing I did in my adolescence prepared me for that.
The education system is so fucked and useless and it failed me (and everyone else) beyond all reasonable measures. It needs to change.
This actually does not completely ring true in my case, because many of the kids in our class outright rejected their ideology. I fondly remember writing speeches and essays regarding issues like the toxicity of feminism or how gender dysphoria is a mental disease and needs to be treated as such instead of letting it progress to suicide (Which it does in a alarming number of cases).
In HS, I took post-secondary courses, of which were all distance learning. In those courses one day a week was set aside with the TAs to have a "discussion day" with specifically the DL kids about issues that the class decided at the beginning of the semester. We were going to talk about lots of things, like the 2016 election, the death penalty, abortion, all of that juicy shit. Problem was, the TAs were uber liberal, and we weren't. The TAs could only take two or three weeks of being dismantled by a bunch of high school kids before they stopped having discussions, and instead opted to play videos on the topics instead.
Near the end of the semester, we were watching a video on the wage gap. Yeah, seriously. My friend next to me, of whom was probably the quietest and kindest kid on earth, hits his mic button and says "Excuse me, but do you seriously expect me to believe this bullshit?"
Needless to say, they shut down the dissenting opinions quick. They tried to identify who he was and get him in trouble with the HS admin, which fortunately didn't work.
Idk, it just seemed like my school in particular wasn't too heavy on the indoctrination. They didn't produce liberals, they just produced laziness (but really, what is the difference?). It was uni that was trying to silence us.
I agree with you but the education system hasn’t failed, it has accomplished exactly what it set out to do. I highly recommend the book “Dumbing us Down” by john gatto. Very eye opening.
This should be drilled into everybody's heads. Soon enough big tech and MSM will tell the radical left how this country works, and they will riot when Trump is inaugurated.
You're lucky you escaped the stupid gene that hit your mother and sister. Honestly, I can't think of a more idiotic reason to vote for someone than their gender.
Why did we ever give women the right to vote? I'm not trying to be an ass, but legitimately they pick the most stupid reasons to vote for someone. It's not about policy to them, to them... it's about some stupid thing that'll be written into a history book no matter how terrible the person's policies are to their country. Luckily not all women are like this, but I've never heard men say "Oh gee, he's got a dick and balls like me, so I'll vote for him!".
Seriously, he cries like a church lady and dabs his big girly eyes with a handkerchief like he doesn't want to mess up his mascara. There are times when good strong men cry, but it's not sappy crocodile tears in front of a camera. Pathetic when women do that baby act too, like the woman accusing Kavanaugh of gang rape parties making her voice sound childish on purpose.
You can’t deny the fact that people always include the judgement of someone’s outward appearance when making their decision. Now having it as the sole reason to pick that certain candidate is not advisable. But despite the communist leanings of Bernie sanders... he is weak in stature, wrinkled pussy ass face... I’d never vote for him even if he was a conservative... peoples outward appearance provides insight into what they are as people
My friend told me his mom voted for a Native American lesbian in Kansas (I can’t remember what position). When my based friend asked his mom “what are her policies?”, his mom had literally zero idea.
It's worth noting that our founders are lauded by most people as being geniuses that were way ahead of their time, and yet for some reason when it comes to voting suffrage many of those same people conveniently ignore that our founders deliberately set up voting to have greater restrictions for who could vote, almost as if they had a specific reason for doing so...
They did. Women, we are emotional by our very nature. Reading that comment up there about women voting based on looks made me wanna puke. While there are a few of us who are based, if you took away the vote of women, I have no doubt we would be much better off as a country...
You sound emotional. I am sorry the fact that the majority of women in the US vote for progressive candidates (and therefore their destructive policies) has you so upset. Yes, I despise they do that and wish they wouldn't be able to. Sling your pathetic insults all you want, love 😘 Enjoy your Sunday 😊
As a female pede, I can’t imagine anything stupider than voting for someone just because they have a vagina. I don’t want your sister on my team. She’s an idiot.
I graduated in 09 and we all as seniors had to take at least one semester of civics. Wish it was at least a year, and more discussion and education on it in every school year starting at a young age, but it was still being taught at least.
Exactly. I just don't bother fighting with anyone over this stuff. If people want me to explain things I do, otherwise my only goal is just to stick a little doubt into their head. Not to try and convince them, just enough that when the truth comes out at least the idea was there ahead of time.
Even if they never agree if you can get people to at least entertain the idea that maybe they don't know everything, it'll be easier for them when the truth hits. Plus they'll likely come back to you and ask you to explain it since you were aware when they were not.
You can't give anyone an answer until they genuinely have a question AND they trust you. I try to focus on building trust, finding areas of agreement like being caring people then on triggering curiosity/questions. Persuasion is an art form and a science. Its very possible to get good at it with study and practice. Scott Adams book about Trumps persuasion skills, Win Bigly, is a good primer imho.
It all depends on the person and relationship that has or has not existed before.
I got a friend who has continually said he is left of center on most issue but right of center on what he called the big ones.
I laughed at him for a full 5 minutes and flatly stated he may be the to the left of me, but he is staunchly on the right. He baited him into an argument and got him to realize he was much further right than he though. Easiest way with him was to tie multiple issues to bigger ones. The concept of law and order plays well with him. Personal responsibility as well.
For others I don't argue with them, I argue at them for the benefit of the audience. I have an in-law who's family fled Jordan when the catholics were being hunted in their region. Short version, got her to cry hysterically while proclaiming no country ever surprised attacked Isreal and than Isreal trying to convince countries to not attack is a lie. Got to play up the more ego than sense is how lefties ruin countries after that.
Its an art form sure, but sometimes a mallet to a watermelon is the most effective show.
This is the kind of comment that is the real problem imo. Everyone is like, why isn't Barr doing anything? Why isn't Sessions doing anything? Why aren't our reps doing anything? And in 3 months, why didn't our legislatures do anything?
Sooner or later everyone is going to have to stop saying "trust the plan", "Just wait", "relax", and they are going to have to say "what am I going to do?"
If conservatives had done this 5 years ago, we wouldn't be in this situation. The longer they wait, the worse the answer to that question is going to be.
Lol. He's NOT going to stand down. He understands the stakes even if you don't. He accepted the risks before he agreed to run. He pledged is life (and his family's lives) his fortune and is honor/reputation/name in order to save our Republic and humanity from the Cabal that thought they'd already won.
LMAO I didn't realize the conservative nature of the site and read through most of the "Ts and Ds" in complete and utter disbelief. It really is alarming how completely misinformed many/most people are. Talking to my family is like talking to a wall, I'm continually met with "I'm sure that's not REALLY happening" when I bring up the evidence of fraud, for example. Someday...
I question if we are educated today or we have just trained our monkeys enough so they can read and do basic math. Very little critical thinking skills which are the hallmark of an intelligent person.
"My mother wishes me to let Lord Eddard join the Night's Watch. Stripped of all titles and powers, he would serve the realm in permanent exile. And my Lady Sansa has begged mercy for her father. But they have the soft hearts of women. So long as I am your king, treason shall never go unpunished. Sir Ilyn, bring me his head!" Wait, are we the baddies?
We are all united in our support for GEOTUS on this site, but this viewpoint really stuns me. This is def not even an opinion among any of my redpilled friends.
Because we've been brainwashed for years to not see any distinctions between men and women. It's not inherently bad that there are differences, it's just facts and biology--men and women compliment each other because of it.
Even amongst folks who are red-pilled, they'll call you sexist/misogynist for pointing out basic biological facts.
Lol yup, cause that would solve the problem. Especially since that would mean one less vote for Trump while the other hundreds of thousands of women voting for Biden would also have their vote negated, right? Kek
Civic 101 was dropped with the advent of ‘No child left behind’. No one is teaching students the importance of Liberty and Freedom in our society. Today, Thomas Jefferson is not the author of the Declaration of Independence and the Statute of Religious Freedom of Virginia, he is a slave owner who slept with his slave woman.
I'm with you on this. I'm honestly sick to death of normies coming at me, trying to lecture me about the latest headline on how the election is over and Biden is president. Sick of it. It's one thing to have another opinion, but these people don't even have an opinion. They tell me I need to read other news sources... but they don't even read their own sources past the headline. But that doesn't stop them talking as if they're the authority on the subject.
It blows my mind. How can someone so ignorant have such a strong opinion? I have next to no one in my life who sees what's going on so I'm almost ready to go scorched earth.
These people think it's fine to arrest people for breaking lockdown rules? Fine. I'll be watching them like a hawk for them to slip up, and when they do they'll have the police knocking on their door. Want to support politicians who support "hate speech" laws? Better not make any un-PC jokes then.
When their utopia comes, I'll have prepared as well as I can and these clowns will be screaming about food shortages, hyper inflation, crazy high taxes and being arrested for "hate speech". But fuck them. This is what they wanted.
Had a family member telling me for 15 minutes that Trump has conceded and he's not president anymore. When I tell him to google it (my phone was out of battery) he refuses and tells me very sternly that he's not an idiot and he knows what he read.
Same here, literally shown people video evidence, like the "Trump said drink bleach" thing and they're literally hearing him not say it. Then later in the day they'll bring it up again.
It's terrifying.
Literal NPC's, I think left vs right is mostly people with inner monologue vs drones.
The older I get the more I realize that probably close to 70% of humans walking on the planet don't actually possess what most society's would call souls. They're literally walking potatoes, sterile on delivery, clock quickly ticking away towards their looming material demise into nothing. Shoot to kill.
“If we are to have another contest in the near future of our national existence, I predict that the dividing line will not be Mason and Dixon's but between patriotism and intelligence on the one side, and superstition, ambition and ignorance on the other.”
-- Ulysses S. Grant
I had my uncle telling me that he heard with his own two ears that Trump called veterans losers lmao! I didn’t even argue with him at that point because you can’t argue with someone about something that never happened.
Like ffs, if John Bolton, a dude who wrote a book about how much he hates Trump, even said how that never happened, like you gotta at LEAST start questioning your own fucking sanity.
Not the most effective way of trying to win an argument against someone that already doesn't trust literally any source I provide, even if it's the same source that they use.
I don't use google myself, but I told him to "prove" that Trump had conceded.
Well then you should have started by typing something in to both Google and Duck, then compare the auto suggestion results. That lands you an early victory by proving that google censors suggestions. If one source that he likes can't be trusted, maybe his other sources are shady too
It blows my mind. How can someone so ignorant have such a strong opinion?
I have seen this phenomenon my whole life. What seems to be the key to understanding it is this: 95% of people are hard-wired to be followers. So, to them, if the majority of the crowd believes something to be true, then it is a fact, as far as they are concerned. No need to think about it, question it, or investigate further. The crowd believes it, so it is true. And then they will defend this belief whole-heartedly.
Here's where it gets worse:
The only thing necessary to get the sheep to go along is the PERCEPTION of the crowd believing something is true. You could get someone to believe that the world is flat tomorrow, as long as that person thinks that EVERYONE ELSE believes the world is flat, even if most of the world actually believes the world is round.
So how do you make that person think that everyone else believes the world is flat? Well, by doing exactly what the communists have been doing for decades now: control the media and other avenues for the dissemination of information, including the internet. Get all of your late-night talkshow hosts to talk about how the world is flat, and how only ignorant redneck nazis believe it is round, and laugh at them. Infiltrate the institutions of learning and pump the kids' heads full of flat-earth propaganda, and tell them that anyone who believes the world is round is saying so only because of white supremacy. Censor social media and internet news feeds so that flat-earth propaganda is favored, and round-earth data is buried.
Once the average normie perceives the flat-earth position as being the majority opinion, he will turn. And he will violently defend the flat-earth position until he perceives the majority position as having changed. It really is that simple.
So how do we win? We have to change the PERCEPTION of what the majority opinion is. Right now, Trump is drastically more popular than Biden, but all the normie sheep THINK that he is more popular than Trump, so they are more susceptible to the BS lies about the election that the media is spewing.
Another thing with the normies is they never believe any of that stuff will happen. They’ll call you crazy and believe the government is inherently good and wouldn’t make laws like that etc. Not only that they try to sound smart and accuse you of believing a “slippery slope” lmao some people are just fucking dumb, I kinda gave up already on these NPCs.
Problem is, why are there so many weak-willed men? Which gender has been at the forefront of single parenting and education over the last 40+ years? Who was pushing men to become "more in tune with their feelings" and become feminized?
I get that it's not all women. I'm a lady pede who is arguably a bigger Trump supporter than my husband. But we're in the minority. Look at the fall of Rome. One of the precursors to the fall was women started taking up pubic positions, leaving the home, and getting involved in politics. It didn't lead directly to the fall, but it was one of many factors that contributed. "Female empowerment" is a brilliant scheme to not only weaken the nuclear family but to also double the government's tax base.
That being said, there absolutely needs to be a civics exam or something before anyone can vote. The number of idiots in this country is too damn high.
Hey now! Please don't just put a stamp like this to apply to all women. I would NEVER vote for someone without knowledge.
How many idiot men are put there watching MSM who felt the same way??
Be fair, we're not all moronic like this.
Thank you kindly.
As a woman, I would absolutely love to go back to being able to only have my husband have to work, and I could be a homemaker and a mother. Things today are unobtainable without us both working and my husband working 70 hour work weeks. I’m 29 and no kids. It makes me really sad that I might not be able to fulfill that want, because of how normalized this has all become.
Lots of us have your back here on TDW ladypede. Looks like OP has spent a little too much time on 4chan. I think instead of such a broad and dumb brush as giving only one gender the right to vote (which would be objectively stupid) it might be good to have some kind of basic requirements just so idiots can't vote, period.
The only issue with that is "Who makes the rules?" because just as the Jim Crow assholes did in the old South, they could easily be used against targeting political classes today as well. There has to be an answer to this. Unfortunately the most obvious one is the hardest, we need to educate the rest of the country.
If you go to boards.4chan.org/pol you'll find yourself very happy in the midst of the "Repeal the 19th" crowd. I don't personally subscribe to that, but your words would match well there.
OP does not have to spend time on 4chan, all of social media makes people insane. That includes TheDonald, btw. Social media in moderation is fine, but you have a bunch of people who wake up, go on theDonald, and stay on theDonald until bed time sometime approaching midnight. And they absorb all of this shit news and garbage and it makes them pathological and insane.
Lol. Its not about genetalia. Obama, Brennan, Comey, Schiff, Nadler, Romney, Cuomo etc etc. Now think of Trumps fierce female allies. Sydney Powell, Jenna Ellis, his press secretary, Maria Bartiroma, Diamond and Silk, Candace Owens etc etc. Our adversaries want us divided. They want us to stop seeing each other as unique individuals. Please resist the Borg BS. Its cultural .Marxist demonic poison.
Collectivism is a weak, illogical and dare I say feminine phenomenon. Women's lib goes hand in hand with the rest of the Marxist sub categories; it doubles the potential base and weakens the opposition.
I sometimes feel that way, too. One side lives in a fantasy land. They do not realize it's not reality though. They get their current events from Facebook, cnn, cbs, instagram, coffee shops, kava bar lounges, etc. They don't watch channels that cover the election fraud hearings. Cnn is too busy REEEEEEEing that Trump gets two scoops after supper.
Don't lose faith in the supreme court. We have it 5-4. It makes me sick to even type that. This is an American issue. Not a partisan issue. There's no reason this ruling shouldn't be unanimous. But it won't. We already know how each justice will vote, that's sad.
And if scotus throws rudy's evidence down the drain, I urge you to change your tax filings. Do tax exempt. I will not pay taxes to fund socialism, open borders, abortions, etc. They want to try and arrest me, they'll have to take me in a bag. We have to stand up for the constitution, or this country will cease to exist.
There's no chance the court throws the evidence down the drain. When its presented in court, the people will finally be exposed to the truth, and no one can stop the truth
Elder conservatives in my family are "sucks, but time to move on" as they watch FOX news 24/7. When I eviscerated FOX in front of them it was like a kicked their dog. Pissed them off BAD. ..They hate dems and the left but are so stuck in their ways they won't get off FOX tunnel vision. It's really a HUGE reason we are at this point in our history. Entire generation that is so married to comforts they won't fight if it means exerting themselves. Entire generation that thinks "Easier = Better".....
At this point you can just point to their ratings. "Why are millions of conservatives abandoning Fox News? Are they all crazy? But weren't they avid Fox News watchers just like you? Maybe they know something you don't..."
Why kick their beloved dog? That forces them to defend FOX from YOU. Do you want them to defend FOX? Instead try to find an alternative site for them to ALSO watch. Ask them to check it out and give you feedback. Tell them you value their feedback. Use your knowledge of them to "seduce" them into breaking from the cult. Perhaps watch Trump's December 5 rally with them. Watch RSBNs pre rally interviews too? Yelling at and berating comfy people is VERY unpersuasive. As you learned and probably already knew from your own life. God speed.
So much of this is a psy-op, fren, including the parts that nudge our side toward violence. One big need we all have is impulse control. Revealed truth is going to force the lefties/RINOs/normies into a state of cognitive dissonance, where established belief meets evidence to the contrary. A choice must be made, and many will choose to reject conflicting evidence and hold to their established belief. Idk how it’ll all play out, but it’s gonna be ugly. Family members will be divided, friendships broken, etc.
Just gotta hang in and hang on. Know you’re not alone in all of this. God wins. Truth wins.
Please tell me about it. I love my family and there is no animosity, but their ignorance can be a bit infuriating. They all hate Trump, but can't tell me why. Say he's racist, but can't tell me single racist thing he has done. My sister who voted can't explain why she mail voted for Biden. They just don't know anything. They never do the research. They hear an NPR story and think they're an expert. What's funny is that my apolitical Mom and oldest Democrat sister who both can't vote atleast agree there is something fishy going on with the election. While my other sister who is an Independent can vote is adamant there is no evidence of fraud. Blames Donald Trump for dividing us and fomenting the fraud conspiracy when I brought up the hundreds of affidavits she said they were all lying. She just mentally turtles up when she can't explain something.
The only person in my family who knows anything is my dad. He's the reason I'm interested in history and politics. While he doesn't keep up as much as I do he does enough to be red pilled. I was a bit shocked how much he came to distrust the mainstream news and was even saying a Civil War was looming. He was more certain of fraud before I was and was White pilling harder than I was at first. Was really encouraged by him to keep faith.
That's scary and reminds me of Alex talking about how commie Mao had kids turning against parents and even killing them. Mao's youth brigades and the red guard. The crazier ones even practiced cannibalism.
Exactly the same thing with all the young people in my family. The party's first priority should be to target the youth the Dems have an iron grip on, or we'll never win an election in the future.
That's a hard one, hang on. I've done that with family along with friends I've had for 20 years. It's painful but better to give space right now than to go full scorched earth. Personally I'm hoping little talks and slow information will chip away at things.
How can you call yourself a Conservative and not vote Trump? The Democrats are crazy and Trump has given us a lot. The only major fault I have with the guy is the deficit and no Republican is ever good about that.
My dad and I are lifelong Republicans and didn't vote for Trump in 2016 because he had no record, we didn't like his style and we didn't trust him, but the both of us came around when he delivered results and advanced a Conservative agenda. We both understood actions speak louder than words. Add on how crazy Democrats have gotten how do you not vote Trump?
Trump had zero control over the deficit so I never understand those who fault him for it. The House controls the purse strings then the Senate signs on. They always have the numbers to over ride his veto. Bottom line he's been positioning things so he can deal with the deficit despite Congress in his second term just as he did in order to secure our southern border.
In today's fake news climate, in order to stay informed, you have to be a part time investigative journalist and not everyone had time for that. Most people spend their time thinking about work, friends, family, their future, etc..
In essence, what you are suggesting about this election is that there is a massive conspiracy between all of these tech companies, our government, many of world's governments, many big businesses, and the news media all purposefully lying trying to us, to achieve some end result.
What you are saying is that everything they've been taught is a lie. Like trying to get someone to accept they're living in the Matrix.
The beauty of our country, is that people have the freedom not to vote.
Unfortunately, the other side is pushing a narrative that you NEED to vote. Most people shouldn't for the reasons I explained above. You don't have to be informed, but if you're not, you shouldn't vote.
I could go on, but long posts don't get read.
The reason I know I can trust a lot of the sources posted on this site is because when I listen to the actual person speak live, whether it’s Trump or Giuliani or Powell or whoever, the sources I see here reflect what I saw and heard. However, the MSM just straight up lies or focuses on some insignificant sound bite to discredit everything.
What’s sad is that so many people don’t trust the actual person speaking. They only trust what comes through the CNN filter. So despite trump denouncing white supremacy dozens of times or Giuliani reading signed affidavits, they’re liars because the CNN filter told me so. People are so retarded.
It’s like when one parent says to their kid,”you’re grounded” and then the kid looks at the other parent hoping he’ll say “no no moms just upset you’re not really grounded.” Grown up children shouldn’t be allowed to vote
I think the gaslighting effects me more than anything. It’s frustrating and infuriating and I try not to think this way, but every time I find out someone voted for Biden, I think this person must be dumb or evil. I love a couple of these people because they’re my fam, but wtf? Are you really dumb or are you just straight up evil?
They were deliberately brainwashed by people they were trained to trust. Pity them. Pray for them. Love them. Learn to laugh like a bemused Dad when his beloved child says something foolish. Or respond sincerely with "thank you for sharing" then move on. Do not reward them by engaging.
When I went to school, there was less homework and more of the student studying independently because they wanted to learn.
I went to a in university recently and was shocked that teachers give students notes as downloads and give them old tests. Give tons of homework via third party software that the teacher never teaches about or uses for tests. But then uses the grade from it.
Kids are being conditioned earlier as well to be handed information from a source and trained to only seek the correct answers from one source...that is handed to them.
Talking to students now a days I am amazed they can't listen to a teacher to discern what facts they need to write down, what to question, and where to look up well documented sources. Please keep in mind there are some but very few that strive for more. Those are rare.
All I can think of when I hear one of them rant about thier source of information is - you are the child that was left behind and liked it.
It’s not even that, it’s just that we’re all so done with school and realize that it’s the sheet of paper that matters at the end of the day, not how smart you are or how much you think. We just want to get over it already. Having an opinion means you risk pissing off the professor and thus your grade, and if your grade is bad—well then your life is essentially over. And it’s just not worth the risk.
So, we just don’t care anymore. The only thing that gives us a modicum of happiness is the superficial crap that just leaves us feeling emptier than we were before, mostly because all the things that provide true happiness (friends, intact & non-insane families, achievement of goals, etc.) don’t actually exist anymore. Demoralization psyop complete. Here, have a blackpill.
The silver lining for me is that a lot of people are showing their true colors thanks to this. I ended my relationship with several people that filled their mouths with democracy for decades but they suddenly seem not that into it anymore.
Naming Trump is all you need to do for them to jump on the "the end justifies the means" wagon.
They've been conditioned by experts to have a Pavlovian meltdown triggered by Trumps name, voice or image. Their victims of pure evil. Their rage triggers addictive feel good biochemicals plus they've been conditioned to believe their rage proves their superior intelligence, education and VIRTUE. Pity them. Pray for them. Love them. They're victims of horrific intentional abuse. They're also really dangerous.
Exactly. I told them, you have sat back and watched YOUR FELLOW CITIZENS, family/friends/strangers even, be silenced, threatened with physical harm, threatened with financial ruin, actual physical attacks, threatened to be put on lists, censored, silenced and punished by massive entities like Facebook, Twitter, YouTube...and you've said NOTHING. You've allowed your family and friends to be called racist, nazis, white supremacists , RUSSIANS and you've said NOTHING. You've done worse though: you have shown me you think so little of me that I'm not even worth the effort of having an open conversation and you've tried to invalidate every single point I've tried to make. Let's see if the MSM, Big Tech and your social media platforms are there for you when you need them like Ive been.
My mother and I got into a lengthy argument over a lack of evidence of voter fraud. When I pointed out the abundance of evidence, she replied that if it were real, why isn't it on the news?
We have to stop legitimizing it as news. They are state propaganda. Period. No different than if you put on the "news" in North Korea.
Then why doesn't it favor President Trump? They may ask.
Because he is not the state. He never was. He wasn't supposed to be able to win.
Calling it biased news is wrong. Calling it fake news is wrong. Agreeing that they're just trying to make money and gain viewers is wrong. Agreeing that at least Fox News is fair is wrong (and always has been). It is not news. It is propaganda. The purpose is to tell the masses what and how to think.
People like acronyms. It makes them feel smart when they know what it stands for.
I'll ask people what the CMPs are saying. They ask what it is. I tell them. It makes sense. I use it again. Now I've conditioned them with a new moniker for a new idea.
Calling it "news" has too much baggage. You have to make up a new term to promote a new idea. The Left understands this way better than our side, which is why they get away with it.
Don't argue, Don't debate. Just focus on what we're doing here. These people's opinions do not control anything. I have family members who act like this as well but I simply ignore them because I know they are in for a rude awakening when President Trump starts his second term in Jan 2021.
Like I said before. If this was just a simple case of random cases of voter fraud then I would give President Trump a 95% chance of pulling this off but it's not just voter fraud. What is happening in the 2020 elections as we week speak is a coordinated voter fraud effort in conjunction with the biggest Election fraud scan ever ran in American history by Democrats, Rinos, traitors in multiple government agencies, American Mainstream media and BIG TECH(Twitter, facebook and Youtube) in partnership with FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS. This is beyond voter fraud what is happening is TREASON at the highest levels.
That's why Sidney Powell said if Biden was smart he would concede RIGHT NOW because the longer they keep this going the harder it will be for any of them to get out of it. So President Trump starts in second term in Jan 2021 one way or another. There is no other way it can be. This goes beyond the 2020 election this is about America choosing to fight the deepstate and their foreign government partners or surrendering America to them. NO matter what anyone tells you we have Patriots in our government who ISN'T SURRENDING SHIT TO ANY OF THESE TRAITORS. So I say relax and let the process play out while knowing that President Trump starts his second term in Jan 2021 because it can be no other way now. The Democrats can only blame themselves for making it this way. They could have easily just left President Trump alone and let him have his two terms in office and find a way to win in 2024 then undo everything that President Trump did during his 8 years in office but nooooooooooooo the dems and their Globalist partners had to play games.. The dems and globalists are going to lose what little power they thought they had in America.
I'm rapidly reaching a point where I don't want a peaceful resolution to this conflict.
Well good, because there can't be one. The left is an existential threat, and you can't deal with such a thing by hugging and making up.
We are going to have to fight them sooner or later.
My sister says she's a republican, but voted Biden because she wanted to see a woman vp.
I hate to break it to you, but your sister is a retard. Not to mention a prime example of why the Founders didn't want universal suffrage. Because the average person has no business voting.
Yeah. The only thing that stops me from being right there is the feeling that I am being pushed there.
They’ve obviously set this up to split the country so they don’t have to pay the $26 trillion in debt that they have run up. Of course many people say that they have taken out an additional $75 trillion in illegal loans and that’s the real reason that they want to split. Start their own country no debt they can live with China and be communists all they want
Bless you for doing it. It takes more strength than people realize, especially in Los Angeles. My conservative Mex-American great uncle taught in LA public schools until his death in the 90s, and he felt that decade would be the beginning of the end. He'd be appalled at how bad things are now.
I am extremely grateful for the few conservative teachers I had in my very blue state. They were very cagey with their political beliefs for fear of losing their job, but talking to them outside of class really molded my political views. Winning the young people is the key
Our educational system has NOT failed. They have achieved the goals they set out for themselves: To indoctrinate the children, not educate them. To destroy the children's sense of self, sense of family, sense of community, and sense of patriotism.
Then you guilt-trip them. Show them the horrors of Stalin and Mao, and show them how they are advocating for it by their policies because they mirror what those horrible commies stated. Use their own strengths against them. It’s likely their weakness too. If they’re standing for socialism because of emotions, then they’ll fall for it because of emotions too.
For family and friends stuck on MSM it may benefit to get them to watch the out of shadows documentary. https://www.outofshadows.org/
You’ve got my respect for hanging in there and sharing information. I know it takes a toll. Know you’ve got us and our support here when you need a dose of MAGA to keep going!
We need our own long march through the institutions. Either we do it now or the constitutional republic is at stake.
Also, there have been pics going around on the internet showing the media's connections with the democratic party leadership. If you can find them, you can easily argue that the entire media is basically the propaganda wing of the dem party. BTW, the redpilling process can take months.
The HCQ argument is fairly useful in such cases. Almost neutral topic, but touches at the heart of the matter. Media willingly uses a fraud paper, that was likely paid for, to discredit Trump. Lancet then issues a retraction and apology on paper citing poor source, but no similar coverage on media to retract the story or apology for lying to the people for political gain.
The irony in voting for a woman because she's a woman is high. They claim to want everyone treated equally and not on sex, but then proceed to treat people unfairly based upon their sex. I never understood that argument.
I did a full stop on discussing politics with libs since the election. Why let them gloat? There's no fun in it for me. So I just smile and say we'll see what happens.
Your libtard family is fucking stupid and nearly beyond salvage, but then so is mine and I've stopped trying to straighten the poor stupid Bastards out.
On the one hand, these types of complacent people have destroyed our country. On the other hand, these people will roll over and offer no resistance when we take it back
When things break in Trump's favor, and your family is freaking out, it's these talks with you that will bring them to sanity. You're doing good work. Keep at it, just don't run until your tank is dry. Keep some energy for yourself.
Those who are so willfully ignorant when given all the information at their fingertips will be damned to the hell they helped create. God doesn't reward those who stick their heads in the sand.
If anyone from the left tries to argue with you, just tell them they are too stupid to talk to you as long as they still watch CNN or MSNBC or support BLM
That’s the hardest one to explain to people, right there. The more you argue that one to people, the crazier they think you are.
I just say that the "news" is a television show ran by the same networks that are always trying to sell you something. There's no law about what they need to run, and there's no real laws AGAINST running false stories unless someone can sue over it, which rarely happens because they have billions of dollars in ad revenue. There's nothing about the "news" that makes it authoritative other than what people have been convinced to believe through them selling you their legitimacy with big words and people in suits. They exist to get you to watch, not to inform you.
That type of thing tends to at least make them think a little. But it's hard when people literally don't believe their own eyes.
I hear you, but most people are convinced that the “news” is so powerful, they decide the outcome of elections.
I think it’s going to take most people seeing with their own eyes what is coming before they’ll ever believe we were right.
You are right on needing to see it for yourself. Before GamerGate I was a communist just like most of my family. Then I saw how some Game dev was sleeping around with reviewers, joined others calling them out, then witnessed the Gaming Media circle the wagons. People started digging up information showing how incesteous these journals were and next thing I know, it makes national news and I am called every bad name in the book: Nazi, Sexist, Misogynist.
If I wasn't a part of GG from the start, I never would've woken up. For a lefty like I was, you need to be in the crosshairs before it clicks "If they lied about me being a Nazi, who else did they lie about being Nazis..." That question swung me so hard to the right that I realized we haven't had a Conservative in power for centuries.
can you td/lr gamer gate? Hard to find legit info anymore. Wikipedia is liberal trash
Girl programmer creates shitty game. Shitty game somehow gets great reviews. Autists find out Girl slept with reviewers. Autists complain to Reviewer's publisher, Kotaku. Kotaku tells them to piss off. Gamers get angry at Kotaku. Gaming media rushes to Kotaku's defence. Autists find out gaming media collaborate with each other through some digging. MSM starts sweating bullets since not only is this the first time a group opposed the Long March Through the Institutions in decades, but gamers also discovered that Media collaborates to create a narrative. MSM helps Gaming rags by doubling down on the collusion. Gamers are painted as Nazi Sexist Trolls and Girl programmer is made a Saint second to Floyd. Bunch of us realize that we tripped over the curtain that was the deep state's propaganda arm because of some slut.
tl;dr: My wife and I sold our wedding and engagement rings to buy guns and gun training courses. We won't let them take our vidyas some day. We all need to train ourselves to protect our hobby before it's too late. It sucks that I wake up crying every day now because this is our world. I wasn't meant to be a soldier I was a gamer . I played fucking games. But now I'm a soldier thrown into some Brave New World remake god it's awful.
Blessed are the cheezemakers.
Yup pretty good summary of it. The UN even let those hoes cry to the world in the UN. Gamergate really exposed all the connections.
Yup, that sure was something absurd.
And this is why you can never turn a blind eye to this bullshit again. Because eventually, no matter how much you want to walk on egg shells and be PC, the left will find something to target you and now you become the "Nazi". They will always bring the fight to your doorstep until people punch back.
Hang in there, soldier! We need you to NEVER GIVE UP !!!
Any chance you make cheese too? XD
Gamergate summary, journalism is dead. Let's use critical theory to defend against everyone who says so.
We failed after Gamergate. Gaming has gone even more SJW despite our side claiming "victory"
Probably true. But the victory is in exposing the truth. Once you take that redpill, you don't go back.
Barbie’s first media corruption playset:
•Sleep with five guys (burgers and fries) and get a game 5 stars!
•Call it out and now you’re literally Hitler
•No matter how much proof you show, media never shows it
Very similar to what we see now except now it’s on a MUCH bigger scale
The timing was very interesting because people looking up corruption were prepared for it in 2016 a year and a half before with Gamergate acting like training wheels
It started in 2014, and it was the start of the Anti-SJW backlash that cumulated in Trump’s Election in 2016.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/4ITwc8LfjcY/
i think this explains it pretty well
Skip the first 30 seconds.
Yes, lol. That was super annoying. As a disclaimer, I have no idea who the guy doing the video is, I just looked up some videos on gamergate and sent the first one that actually about what happened. Nails on a chalkboard in that first bit, not gonna lie. 😩
Ugh too late
Thank you
You are right on the money. There were quite a few people I knew who also were part of GG when it started that folded like a house of cards once the message went out that GGers were Nazis. They still believed something was fishy, but because it was verbotten to say so and they didn't want to be on the "wrong side of history" they stopped. They simultaneously held the belief that the gaming media was corrupt, but that we shouldn't investigate further because the gaming media said those who did were Nazis.
This is a pattern I've noticed a lot recently. My wife and I are watching Mr. Robot. Generally speaking, it's a good show. The writing, characters and dialogue are pretty well done. It delves deep into human psychology and trauma and the characters feel complex and flawed. It's far better television than most of what passes for tv nowadays. However, the politics of it are the most brain dead thing you'll ever witness.
The story is about a left-wing anarchist hacker trying to take down what is essentially the deep state. At first he's going after a corporation, but soon discovers it is a front for a deep state like organization. It is made very clear that the media is owned and pushes narratives that the deep state wants them to push. The show also paints Trump as part of this evil cabal of deep staters. It takes several shots at him and paints him in the most negative light possible, even going so far as to have him installed by China in their storyline. Talk about irony. The same show has a million opportunities to paint Obama as part of this cabal and refuses to do so. They treat Obama as just some President trying to do President things.
Basically, the show is written by people who are very cynical about corporations and news media, but also bought into every lie those organizations told about Trump and Obama.
I think the band Green Day is another good example of this. Their song "American Idiot" has the line that America is "one nation controlled by the media" and yet this is the band that started the "No Trump, No KKK, No Fascist USA" chant that all the TDS idiots have used for the past 4 years.
The cognitive dissonance is just astounding. It's the kind of thing you wish academia would study, but you know they never will.
So let's throw together a github journal and study it.
It was actually MDC that kind of started the chant as they sang, "No war, no KKK, no fascist USA" back in the 80's, but yes, I completely agree with the points you make.
And then there were those that stuck with it for longer but started to trip over themselves trying to not be called the dreaded C word (conservative).
Yuri Bezmenov’s books & videos are a “must” if you want to understand the Commie game plan. He has opened many eyes and was a big contributor to the Red Pill I took.
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There really is no such thing as "too late". There may be a point where it's too late to avoid war or one side creating death camps, but those things can be stopped. The Nazis were stopped. The Soviets were stopped. Countries like Cuba, Venezuela, Iran, and China can be liberated if the world wanted it. The only "too late" scenerio I can think of is a nuclear holocaust.
Agreed. People who say it’s too late forget that the people who want to rule don’t want to rule over a bombed out wasteland or a stack of corpses. They do all the evil shit they do in order to defeat the people who will resist them, not to kill everyone.
I would have concurred with you, but then Pol Pot came to mind...
I know what you're saying, but there actually is a "too late" point. And we're pretty damned near it.
Those examples you gave required external forces, i.e. "free countries", to fight against and eventually dismantle the oppressive regimes. In fact, the US was responsible for pretty much all of it.
What's going on now is that the last "free country", the USA, is under attack. And if we fall under the boot of communist oppression, there won't be anyone out there to come save our asses.
I don't think we'll lose though, even it does come to a hot civil war. But these are the stakes we're playing with.
This. Ya think Mexico is going to save us?
This is the way. We are the last bastion of hope for the free world. The final domino that shall not fall.
Tragically the Nazis being stopped kinda lead to every bit of bullshit we endure today
The soviets were not stopped.
That's a name you should be repeating constantly, now of all times.
Just wait until you figure out that "nazis" were lied about too. Keep in mind that the losers don't get to write history. The winners do. And unfortunately, the winners also control the media, news, international banks, and have their tentacles wrapped around politicians in every country that matters.
Can you imagine how the left would write about us and Trump if they seized final power? How their history books would record the 2020 election? What they would say about our views on not-white races?
Absolutely. It is a very real concern. If the left (and the MSM) wins this culture war, we will go down in history as some of the most evil people to ever exist. They already make up all kinds of lies about us and who we are as people. If we lose, they will be able to make up even more. It will be endless amounts of bullshit, and future generations will study it in school and think we're pure evil. And freedom will be truly lost, because no one will ever dare to be a "patriot" ever again.
People don't realize that the Nazi's didn't come spontaneously. Nothing ever does. Sometimes the frog realizes it's getting boiled.
Sad when the system has to bitch slap you to get the point. Hoping Jan 20 will be a big awakening slap to the greater public, and that you’re not the only one left who can see what falls in front of your face and not deny it exists.
It won't. The indoctrinated can't be fixed.
You brought up a really good point. In order to see through the lies, the gaslighting needs to be about something you already know a lot about.
Problem with politics and COVID-related science is that most people know very little about either, so they just accept whatever some random person in the news tells them.
keep fighting the good fight man, you're not going to convince many people right then and there on the first attempt, look at stories from other pedes. Been battling it out with their family for years then suddenly receive calls or texts saying their voting for Trump. It can be taxing though, I find the good ol socratic method to be the most laid back, you have to stimulate their smooth brains into actually thinking for themselves, just shoot every point or question they raise with another question that guides them to the truth, when they just screech at you that you're wrong and a bigot thats when you'll know to leave, just keep watering the seed every so often lol
I've got a bunch of Biden voters in my extended family who are convinced that their warm houses, full refridgerators, and prompt medical care are God given guarantees in their life, and just sneer and laugh at those who don't have any hope of ever being able to earn a fraction of the riches they've taken for granted. I fully expect them to blame the sensible side of the family and others like us once their endless comfort is disrupted by their own stupid choices.
Cuomo is the Governor of NYC, the epicenter of the U.S. COVID deaths, and he's getting an Emmy while passing the blame of the virus onto the man who Constitutionally cannot control the States response.
Some people just will never wake up.
Fortunately most people now distrust the media. Alot. Even better, now that Trump overwhelmingly won reelection, the media and their flocks of sheeple are irrelevant. Finally, Trumps September 12, 2018 EO allows him to legally seize the assets of any company, group or individual who helped foreign actors to interfere in our election. The EO specifically lists spreading propaganda and disinformation as help that allows assets to be frozen. Thankfully GEOTUS is VERY patient, methodical and RUTHLESS. Hes enjoying the righteous destruction of our smug yet profoundly stupid adversaries. So am I.
Most people here on TD do. But in the wider world, great swaths of low-information Americans still think that the TeeVee only broadcasts the Word of God.
Remember that poll where something like 13% of people trust the media? Sure, who trust polls (lol), but these idiots on the left choose who to trust, while the right are sus of the whole lot of them.
and how will the truth get out to these lemming masses? Trump will have to use the EBS when the time is right.
I actually have yet to see any evidence of "ruthless." Christine Ford never went to prison.
Trump must win, otherwise it is a proof that news know what the shit they are talking about.
To those citizens who grew up in the Walter Cronkite era, it Would be on the news. Things have changed in the news “business” to make it entertainment for profit, not civic duty.
None of this could have happened in the Cronkite era. The media would have been all over it.
Conkrite wasnt objctive. He was part of the con. So was the NYT, even back then. They just bothered to hide the con. Now they don't bother.
Cronkite turned America against the Vietnam War singlehandedly. He was right, but for the wrong reasons. He was a solid Democrat, but he was more of the Hubert Humphrey mold.
The media was moderate left until the Reagan Administration. They slaughtered Nixon and Joe McCarthy and anybody that met their party's furor, but you could listen to or read them without going insane. There were moderately conservative papers worth reading until the mid eighties.
They went insane to elect Dukakis and destroyed Dan Quayle in 1988. When they lost they went berserk and enjoined with the Clintons. It's been total left wing deluge ever since.
The propaganda laws changed in the USA between then and now.
Smith-Mundt Modernization Act of 2012
https://www.congress.gov/bill/112th-congress/house-bill/5736/text
It looks like the information that was previously intended for foreign nations is now allowed to be push to the USA now.
Really? You should take a second look at Watergate which happened in the Cronkite era. What they did to Nixon was the prototype for what they’ve done to Trump. Shit they killed a president on national television in the Cronkite era.
Not true. The corruption at the highest levels runs so deep and so far back. Shit was even worse then because people didn't have outlets like TDwin to circumvent the media.
The media wouldn't have been. We're only now finding about it because of the internet the ability to collaborate with large amounts of people in a shorter time span. Communication and information are traveling at a rate in which the MSM cannot control as well as they could before. And they're slipping a little more and a little more. Which is why the democrats and other members of the borg are trying to lock down and control the internet now.
Its not News anymore, it’s Propaganda
THIS. I played this for my mom. She GETS it now.
like robots
Cronkite was a commie the whole time. The media has always been left, the difference is that before the internet, fewer people were able to freely compare notes. Now fraud is out in daylight, running rampant, and people think it's new.
It's not new. You just couldn't see it before.
Thats great framing. Kudos.
I think it would be a good approach to point out what Trump just did in the Maria B. interview - that local news channels are covering these questions a lot more than national news. Would probably be a good idea to have a list handy of local news coverage of fraud in AZ, WI, VA and so on, especially articles that were published closer to election day.
I usually tell them "So if it is in the news it must be true and if it isnt in the news, it never happened?"...they usually say "well yeah"...I'll then reply back with how many times you hear about a family member dying, but isnt on the 10:00 news, does that mean the person is still alive?....they become enraged at this point and start saying "but muh news wouldnt lie to me because talking head looks friendly"...then you have to explain that the person on TV reads a screen written by some journalist flunkie and approved by a producer who is even dumber than flunkie journalist....people have no clue how sloppy joirnalism is or how rigged it is.
I appreciate your staying question. If a tree falls in the forest and no news reports on it, is the tree still standing?
No. But 70% of the electorate still believes that it's standing.
People can't imagine the entire media establishment is nothing but deep state propaganda. The scale of it is almost incomprehensible. It's the sort of thing it that can take years to come to terms with and something you've got to learn for yourself.
The good news is at least 80 million people, and counting, have learned better. As someone who has been aware of this shit since the mid 90's, what's happening now is a damn maricle. A Great Awakening is upon us.
When Trump remains in power and exposes this fraud, a lot more of these people will wake up too. So keep planting seeds in their minds. Time will prove you correct.
I couldn't have put it better.
People who still trust the news are so quaint.
Truth is, the news business began specifically to promote propaganda. Have a read on that sometime. Its not like its a new thing. I realized in college that what the media doesn’t report is more important than what it does.
Napoleon started one of the first newspapers in France to spread word of his exploits to everyone. If something good happened it was a tremendous feat and if something bad happened it was a win from the jaws of defeat.
Eventually reading of his exploits became a French past time. When he initiated a coup against the incompetent government that everyone hated the people just didn't care but did remember Napoleon's exploits and him being a hero so no counter resistance happened.
If you ever go on a tour of Hurst Castle (CA) they talk about the link between news/ business/propaganda and how lucrative it is. That castle was built 100 years ago.
No worries their vote didn’t really matter. Just like ours didn’t really matter. Yay for the communist masters who pick our leaders with their overpowering wisdom.... NOT
You mean the liberal ran education system failed? You mean giving every kid a first place ribbon caused a shit ton of future harm, mainly so the parents wouldn't be embarrassed that their kid got last place in the race?
We have to allow men to become stern again. Not angry. Not mean. Not violent. Respect. Hard work. Perseverance. Character. These traits are gone. Just a bunch of pussies who throw temper tantrums when they get what they deserve. I'm not taking about the children by the way. Fuck liberals. Every single one.
I graduated in 2018. I'll tell you this, school was a breeze. It was so easy and so mindless, that I never had to work hard. Band was also held to a low standard, so I never had to work hard there either. I went to college for a little while, which was significantly more challenging and stimulating, but ultimately everything was curved so if you had a pulse you could make it with no effort.
The hardest realization of becoming an adult is the fact that to get things done, you need to work really hard. Nothing I did in my adolescence prepared me for that.
The education system is so fucked and useless and it failed me (and everyone else) beyond all reasonable measures. It needs to change.
I graduated HS in 1985 and you have figured out what really matters! WORK! WORK! WORK! That is why you need to love work.
I guarantee this statement rings true:
"I told them what the marker/teacher wanted to hear"
I guarantee you:
"I told them things I didn't believe, but that I could deduce or knew they believed"
Education is to breed conformity, not critical thinking.
This actually does not completely ring true in my case, because many of the kids in our class outright rejected their ideology. I fondly remember writing speeches and essays regarding issues like the toxicity of feminism or how gender dysphoria is a mental disease and needs to be treated as such instead of letting it progress to suicide (Which it does in a alarming number of cases).
In HS, I took post-secondary courses, of which were all distance learning. In those courses one day a week was set aside with the TAs to have a "discussion day" with specifically the DL kids about issues that the class decided at the beginning of the semester. We were going to talk about lots of things, like the 2016 election, the death penalty, abortion, all of that juicy shit. Problem was, the TAs were uber liberal, and we weren't. The TAs could only take two or three weeks of being dismantled by a bunch of high school kids before they stopped having discussions, and instead opted to play videos on the topics instead.
Near the end of the semester, we were watching a video on the wage gap. Yeah, seriously. My friend next to me, of whom was probably the quietest and kindest kid on earth, hits his mic button and says "Excuse me, but do you seriously expect me to believe this bullshit?"
Needless to say, they shut down the dissenting opinions quick. They tried to identify who he was and get him in trouble with the HS admin, which fortunately didn't work.
Idk, it just seemed like my school in particular wasn't too heavy on the indoctrination. They didn't produce liberals, they just produced laziness (but really, what is the difference?). It was uni that was trying to silence us.
I agree with you but the education system hasn’t failed, it has accomplished exactly what it set out to do. I highly recommend the book “Dumbing us Down” by john gatto. Very eye opening.
This should be drilled into everybody's heads. Soon enough big tech and MSM will tell the radical left how this country works, and they will riot when Trump is inaugurated.
And it will finally be to open fire on them and crush them for good.
State-run education systems are where it all starts.
You're lucky you escaped the stupid gene that hit your mother and sister. Honestly, I can't think of a more idiotic reason to vote for someone than their gender.
Perhaps voting because of skin color might top it, but I agree with you. Vote on merit and ideas, not on skin & gender.
Peak racism and sexism
Our founders were right about who should be allowed to vote.
Fucking women, they don't take things seriously
REPEAL THE 19TH
There they go voting with "feels" again.
Why did we ever give women the right to vote? I'm not trying to be an ass, but legitimately they pick the most stupid reasons to vote for someone. It's not about policy to them, to them... it's about some stupid thing that'll be written into a history book no matter how terrible the person's policies are to their country. Luckily not all women are like this, but I've never heard men say "Oh gee, he's got a dick and balls like me, so I'll vote for him!".
"drumpf is a meanie"
You don't know any women so how would you know why they vote.
Yep, thats their main criteria. Looks. And its all relative. Look at that thing that’s governor of NJ. Thats a good looking man in them parts.
Giving women the right to vote was a mistake.
Why do you think Justin Trudeau is supreme blackface dictator of Canada now?
I don't get how other women find him attractive, he repulses me. He's got this permanent look like he's watching a rom com and is about to cry.
Seriously, he cries like a church lady and dabs his big girly eyes with a handkerchief like he doesn't want to mess up his mascara. There are times when good strong men cry, but it's not sappy crocodile tears in front of a camera. Pathetic when women do that baby act too, like the woman accusing Kavanaugh of gang rape parties making her voice sound childish on purpose.
Because they wanted their tenth faggot in office?
We don't use Dominion in our elections.
You don't need programmed machines when you have programmed people.
You can’t deny the fact that people always include the judgement of someone’s outward appearance when making their decision. Now having it as the sole reason to pick that certain candidate is not advisable. But despite the communist leanings of Bernie sanders... he is weak in stature, wrinkled pussy ass face... I’d never vote for him even if he was a conservative... peoples outward appearance provides insight into what they are as people
Should've never gave women the vote 😂
Whew, that's a whole new level of stupid!
My friend told me his mom voted for a Native American lesbian in Kansas (I can’t remember what position). When my based friend asked his mom “what are her policies?”, his mom had literally zero idea.
And her vote counts as much as ours. Sad, just sad.
It's worth noting that our founders are lauded by most people as being geniuses that were way ahead of their time, and yet for some reason when it comes to voting suffrage many of those same people conveniently ignore that our founders deliberately set up voting to have greater restrictions for who could vote, almost as if they had a specific reason for doing so...
They did. Women, we are emotional by our very nature. Reading that comment up there about women voting based on looks made me wanna puke. While there are a few of us who are based, if you took away the vote of women, I have no doubt we would be much better off as a country...
It took men to give women the right to vote, MORON.
Feel free to sit out of the elections if you don't like it. Don't force others to give up their rights.
You sound emotional. I am sorry the fact that the majority of women in the US vote for progressive candidates (and therefore their destructive policies) has you so upset. Yes, I despise they do that and wish they wouldn't be able to. Sling your pathetic insults all you want, love 😘 Enjoy your Sunday 😊
Yes, men trust women too much.
Adam and Eve, at Eden.
And it doesn't have to be.
As a female pede, I can’t imagine anything stupider than voting for someone just because they have a vagina. I don’t want your sister on my team. She’s an idiot.
How about vag and melanin as criteria for VP? That's some solid politicking!
Other than race.
Imagine the redpills when Trump shows them what the Democratic Party really is in about a month's time.
Hold the line.
The size of the civics lesson coming soon will be unprecedented.
Make schools teach civics, logic/debate and home ec again!
I graduated in 09 and we all as seniors had to take at least one semester of civics. Wish it was at least a year, and more discussion and education on it in every school year starting at a young age, but it was still being taught at least.
Exactly. I just don't bother fighting with anyone over this stuff. If people want me to explain things I do, otherwise my only goal is just to stick a little doubt into their head. Not to try and convince them, just enough that when the truth comes out at least the idea was there ahead of time.
Even if they never agree if you can get people to at least entertain the idea that maybe they don't know everything, it'll be easier for them when the truth hits. Plus they'll likely come back to you and ask you to explain it since you were aware when they were not.
You can't give anyone an answer until they genuinely have a question AND they trust you. I try to focus on building trust, finding areas of agreement like being caring people then on triggering curiosity/questions. Persuasion is an art form and a science. Its very possible to get good at it with study and practice. Scott Adams book about Trumps persuasion skills, Win Bigly, is a good primer imho.
It all depends on the person and relationship that has or has not existed before.
I got a friend who has continually said he is left of center on most issue but right of center on what he called the big ones.
I laughed at him for a full 5 minutes and flatly stated he may be the to the left of me, but he is staunchly on the right. He baited him into an argument and got him to realize he was much further right than he though. Easiest way with him was to tie multiple issues to bigger ones. The concept of law and order plays well with him. Personal responsibility as well.
For others I don't argue with them, I argue at them for the benefit of the audience. I have an in-law who's family fled Jordan when the catholics were being hunted in their region. Short version, got her to cry hysterically while proclaiming no country ever surprised attacked Isreal and than Isreal trying to convince countries to not attack is a lie. Got to play up the more ego than sense is how lefties ruin countries after that.
Its an art form sure, but sometimes a mallet to a watermelon is the most effective show.
Based Dilbert painter
Yes, this works much better in the long term without creating any hostility.
This is the kind of comment that is the real problem imo. Everyone is like, why isn't Barr doing anything? Why isn't Sessions doing anything? Why aren't our reps doing anything? And in 3 months, why didn't our legislatures do anything?
Sooner or later everyone is going to have to stop saying "trust the plan", "Just wait", "relax", and they are going to have to say "what am I going to do?"
If conservatives had done this 5 years ago, we wouldn't be in this situation. The longer they wait, the worse the answer to that question is going to be.
Ok Doomer
But with msm against him, how will he get the word out to the masses...EBS?
The same as he has always done, by winning the things that matter - like court cases.
If it wasn't for this site, I would absolutely be questioning my sanity and/or the nature of reality ... well more than the normal amount.
I really feel like we exist in alternate realities.
The worst case is if we stop supporting Trump he might just get an offer he can't refuse and he'll stand down.
We need to educate everyone that Biden is about to ruin everything, so if he gets power we're the truth tellers and the resistance grows.
Lol. He's NOT going to stand down. He understands the stakes even if you don't. He accepted the risks before he agreed to run. He pledged is life (and his family's lives) his fortune and is honor/reputation/name in order to save our Republic and humanity from the Cabal that thought they'd already won.
He also knows the left wants his head and nothing less. They made it personal for Trump.
Don’t be put off by the Ironic title: But, I like this as a summary of what’s been going on with separate realities: https://www.theburningplatform.com/2020/11/22/do-trump-supporters-live-in-an-alternate-universe/
LMAO I didn't realize the conservative nature of the site and read through most of the "Ts and Ds" in complete and utter disbelief. It really is alarming how completely misinformed many/most people are. Talking to my family is like talking to a wall, I'm continually met with "I'm sure that's not REALLY happening" when I bring up the evidence of fraud, for example. Someday...
Picture if you will...
Wow that was a great article, worth a save and share for the left sheeple that I know. Thank you.
Agreed, you guys are awesome. I love it here
It's a blessing, but also a curse being as informed as we are.
Sometimes I think it would be easier to just be a leftist zombie ... but once you take that red pill ... you can never go back.
Amen
Think I’m in the twilight Zone
I question if we are educated today or we have just trained our monkeys enough so they can read and do basic math. Very little critical thinking skills which are the hallmark of an intelligent person.
The public education system was set up to create drones instead of leaders.
"My mother wishes me to let Lord Eddard join the Night's Watch. Stripped of all titles and powers, he would serve the realm in permanent exile. And my Lady Sansa has begged mercy for her father. But they have the soft hearts of women. So long as I am your king, treason shall never go unpunished. Sir Ilyn, bring me his head!" Wait, are we the baddies?
Wait why is women voting bad
Because the average woman votes with her emotions, rather than facts/logic, and is easily manipulated.
See the graphic of the election map based on gender (only the two real ones). Women overwhelmingly voted Biden/Democrat.
I wish the 19A could be abolished. I'd gladly give up my privilege to vote if it means all these emotionally-wrecked dummies couldn't vote either.
Rome will fall
We are all united in our support for GEOTUS on this site, but this viewpoint really stuns me. This is def not even an opinion among any of my redpilled friends.
Because we've been brainwashed for years to not see any distinctions between men and women. It's not inherently bad that there are differences, it's just facts and biology--men and women compliment each other because of it.
Even amongst folks who are red-pilled, they'll call you sexist/misogynist for pointing out basic biological facts.
Give up your privilege now. Don't wait until you're forced to do it
Lol yup, cause that would solve the problem. Especially since that would mean one less vote for Trump while the other hundreds of thousands of women voting for Biden would also have their vote negated, right? Kek
https://thedonald.win/p/11QSCMOdd3/my-wife-saysif-this-is-trueits-t/c/
We need to bring back schoolhouse rock or something.
Maybe if civics were cute and animated, these people woukd learn how the government works.
I'm just a bill, up on Capitol Hill, lobbyists waiting to swing them a deal!
I’m just a bill was awesome.
Totally. I used it to show my daughter how laws are made. Still holds up.
Civic 101 was dropped with the advent of ‘No child left behind’. No one is teaching students the importance of Liberty and Freedom in our society. Today, Thomas Jefferson is not the author of the Declaration of Independence and the Statute of Religious Freedom of Virginia, he is a slave owner who slept with his slave woman.
This is so true and sad
True. If we wanted to make a difference, we'd march on K Street.
Name checks out 😎 You cool pede!
I'm with you on this. I'm honestly sick to death of normies coming at me, trying to lecture me about the latest headline on how the election is over and Biden is president. Sick of it. It's one thing to have another opinion, but these people don't even have an opinion. They tell me I need to read other news sources... but they don't even read their own sources past the headline. But that doesn't stop them talking as if they're the authority on the subject.
It blows my mind. How can someone so ignorant have such a strong opinion? I have next to no one in my life who sees what's going on so I'm almost ready to go scorched earth.
These people think it's fine to arrest people for breaking lockdown rules? Fine. I'll be watching them like a hawk for them to slip up, and when they do they'll have the police knocking on their door. Want to support politicians who support "hate speech" laws? Better not make any un-PC jokes then.
When their utopia comes, I'll have prepared as well as I can and these clowns will be screaming about food shortages, hyper inflation, crazy high taxes and being arrested for "hate speech". But fuck them. This is what they wanted.
Had a family member telling me for 15 minutes that Trump has conceded and he's not president anymore. When I tell him to google it (my phone was out of battery) he refuses and tells me very sternly that he's not an idiot and he knows what he read.
Same here, literally shown people video evidence, like the "Trump said drink bleach" thing and they're literally hearing him not say it. Then later in the day they'll bring it up again.
It's terrifying.
Literal NPC's, I think left vs right is mostly people with inner monologue vs drones.
The older I get the more I realize that probably close to 70% of humans walking on the planet don't actually possess what most society's would call souls. They're literally walking potatoes, sterile on delivery, clock quickly ticking away towards their looming material demise into nothing. Shoot to kill.
“If we are to have another contest in the near future of our national existence, I predict that the dividing line will not be Mason and Dixon's but between patriotism and intelligence on the one side, and superstition, ambition and ignorance on the other.” -- Ulysses S. Grant
I had my uncle telling me that he heard with his own two ears that Trump called veterans losers lmao! I didn’t even argue with him at that point because you can’t argue with someone about something that never happened.
Like ffs, if John Bolton, a dude who wrote a book about how much he hates Trump, even said how that never happened, like you gotta at LEAST start questioning your own fucking sanity.
STOP
USING
GOOGLE
Use duckduckgo ffs
STOP
USING
GOOGLE
Use duckduckgo ffs
Not the most effective way of trying to win an argument against someone that already doesn't trust literally any source I provide, even if it's the same source that they use.
I don't use google myself, but I told him to "prove" that Trump had conceded.
Well then you should have started by typing something in to both Google and Duck, then compare the auto suggestion results. That lands you an early victory by proving that google censors suggestions. If one source that he likes can't be trusted, maybe his other sources are shady too
Just goes to show how effective one random headline can be at brainwashing the masses.
I have seen this phenomenon my whole life. What seems to be the key to understanding it is this: 95% of people are hard-wired to be followers. So, to them, if the majority of the crowd believes something to be true, then it is a fact, as far as they are concerned. No need to think about it, question it, or investigate further. The crowd believes it, so it is true. And then they will defend this belief whole-heartedly.
Here's where it gets worse:
The only thing necessary to get the sheep to go along is the PERCEPTION of the crowd believing something is true. You could get someone to believe that the world is flat tomorrow, as long as that person thinks that EVERYONE ELSE believes the world is flat, even if most of the world actually believes the world is round.
So how do you make that person think that everyone else believes the world is flat? Well, by doing exactly what the communists have been doing for decades now: control the media and other avenues for the dissemination of information, including the internet. Get all of your late-night talkshow hosts to talk about how the world is flat, and how only ignorant redneck nazis believe it is round, and laugh at them. Infiltrate the institutions of learning and pump the kids' heads full of flat-earth propaganda, and tell them that anyone who believes the world is round is saying so only because of white supremacy. Censor social media and internet news feeds so that flat-earth propaganda is favored, and round-earth data is buried.
Once the average normie perceives the flat-earth position as being the majority opinion, he will turn. And he will violently defend the flat-earth position until he perceives the majority position as having changed. It really is that simple.
So how do we win? We have to change the PERCEPTION of what the majority opinion is. Right now, Trump is drastically more popular than Biden, but all the normie sheep THINK that he is more popular than Trump, so they are more susceptible to the BS lies about the election that the media is spewing.
This is why it's important to wear the red MAGA hat in public.
This is why it's important to go to street rallies and protests.
You're absolutely right, my friend.
If it was really over they wouldn't need to lecture you, did you feel the need to lecture anyone when Trump won?
Another thing with the normies is they never believe any of that stuff will happen. They’ll call you crazy and believe the government is inherently good and wouldn’t make laws like that etc. Not only that they try to sound smart and accuse you of believing a “slippery slope” lmao some people are just fucking dumb, I kinda gave up already on these NPCs.
I voted for Biden because I want to see a woman VP. Wow this is why women shouldn’t vote
Problem is, why are there so many weak-willed men? Which gender has been at the forefront of single parenting and education over the last 40+ years? Who was pushing men to become "more in tune with their feelings" and become feminized?
I get that it's not all women. I'm a lady pede who is arguably a bigger Trump supporter than my husband. But we're in the minority. Look at the fall of Rome. One of the precursors to the fall was women started taking up pubic positions, leaving the home, and getting involved in politics. It didn't lead directly to the fall, but it was one of many factors that contributed. "Female empowerment" is a brilliant scheme to not only weaken the nuclear family but to also double the government's tax base.
That being said, there absolutely needs to be a civics exam or something before anyone can vote. The number of idiots in this country is too damn high.
It is somewhat of a gender issue. Look at the electoral map based off of gender. The difference is very clear.
Hey now! Please don't just put a stamp like this to apply to all women. I would NEVER vote for someone without knowledge. How many idiot men are put there watching MSM who felt the same way?? Be fair, we're not all moronic like this. Thank you kindly.
Moreover, its a stretch to say Dems provide any actual social support
Then move to Pakistan, fuckstick
As a woman, I would absolutely love to go back to being able to only have my husband have to work, and I could be a homemaker and a mother. Things today are unobtainable without us both working and my husband working 70 hour work weeks. I’m 29 and no kids. It makes me really sad that I might not be able to fulfill that want, because of how normalized this has all become.
Simp
"Nobody here is seriously arguing that women shouldn't vote"
Debatable
Lots of us have your back here on TDW ladypede. Looks like OP has spent a little too much time on 4chan. I think instead of such a broad and dumb brush as giving only one gender the right to vote (which would be objectively stupid) it might be good to have some kind of basic requirements just so idiots can't vote, period.
The only issue with that is "Who makes the rules?" because just as the Jim Crow assholes did in the old South, they could easily be used against targeting political classes today as well. There has to be an answer to this. Unfortunately the most obvious one is the hardest, we need to educate the rest of the country.
I don’t even know what 4chan is. So a small minority of women do research and make informed decisions. Most don’t and vote for doofuses.
If you go to boards.4chan.org/pol you'll find yourself very happy in the midst of the "Repeal the 19th" crowd. I don't personally subscribe to that, but your words would match well there.
Okay
Username checks out. You will find a common thread among conservative male thinkers. This is obvious to most men whether they want to admit it or not.
fedora tipping intensifies
Go back to 4chan faggot
Where do you think The_Donald came from you turbodonk
OP does not have to spend time on 4chan, all of social media makes people insane. That includes TheDonald, btw. Social media in moderation is fine, but you have a bunch of people who wake up, go on theDonald, and stay on theDonald until bed time sometime approaching midnight. And they absorb all of this shit news and garbage and it makes them pathological and insane.
Lol. Its not about genetalia. Obama, Brennan, Comey, Schiff, Nadler, Romney, Cuomo etc etc. Now think of Trumps fierce female allies. Sydney Powell, Jenna Ellis, his press secretary, Maria Bartiroma, Diamond and Silk, Candace Owens etc etc. Our adversaries want us divided. They want us to stop seeing each other as unique individuals. Please resist the Borg BS. Its cultural .Marxist demonic poison.
Collectivism is a weak, illogical and dare I say feminine phenomenon. Women's lib goes hand in hand with the rest of the Marxist sub categories; it doubles the potential base and weakens the opposition.
The electoral map based on gender strongly disagrees with you. Exceptions to the rule is just that—exceptions.
I sometimes feel that way, too. One side lives in a fantasy land. They do not realize it's not reality though. They get their current events from Facebook, cnn, cbs, instagram, coffee shops, kava bar lounges, etc. They don't watch channels that cover the election fraud hearings. Cnn is too busy REEEEEEEing that Trump gets two scoops after supper.
Don't lose faith in the supreme court. We have it 5-4. It makes me sick to even type that. This is an American issue. Not a partisan issue. There's no reason this ruling shouldn't be unanimous. But it won't. We already know how each justice will vote, that's sad.
And if scotus throws rudy's evidence down the drain, I urge you to change your tax filings. Do tax exempt. I will not pay taxes to fund socialism, open borders, abortions, etc. They want to try and arrest me, they'll have to take me in a bag. We have to stand up for the constitution, or this country will cease to exist.
There's no chance the court throws the evidence down the drain. When its presented in court, the people will finally be exposed to the truth, and no one can stop the truth
Epstein didn't stop the truth himself.
Elder conservatives in my family are "sucks, but time to move on" as they watch FOX news 24/7. When I eviscerated FOX in front of them it was like a kicked their dog. Pissed them off BAD. ..They hate dems and the left but are so stuck in their ways they won't get off FOX tunnel vision. It's really a HUGE reason we are at this point in our history. Entire generation that is so married to comforts they won't fight if it means exerting themselves. Entire generation that thinks "Easier = Better".....
They're all corporate news. FOX ran the conservative angle because of Roger Ailes, now that he's dead they're under new management. Fairly simple.
At this point you can just point to their ratings. "Why are millions of conservatives abandoning Fox News? Are they all crazy? But weren't they avid Fox News watchers just like you? Maybe they know something you don't..."
Agreed. My dad got even more irate with me yesterday when I dared to tell him how FOX is getting its 2ss handed to them by some Lib networks now. haha
Why kick their beloved dog? That forces them to defend FOX from YOU. Do you want them to defend FOX? Instead try to find an alternative site for them to ALSO watch. Ask them to check it out and give you feedback. Tell them you value their feedback. Use your knowledge of them to "seduce" them into breaking from the cult. Perhaps watch Trump's December 5 rally with them. Watch RSBNs pre rally interviews too? Yelling at and berating comfy people is VERY unpersuasive. As you learned and probably already knew from your own life. God speed.
So much of this is a psy-op, fren, including the parts that nudge our side toward violence. One big need we all have is impulse control. Revealed truth is going to force the lefties/RINOs/normies into a state of cognitive dissonance, where established belief meets evidence to the contrary. A choice must be made, and many will choose to reject conflicting evidence and hold to their established belief. Idk how it’ll all play out, but it’s gonna be ugly. Family members will be divided, friendships broken, etc.
Just gotta hang in and hang on. Know you’re not alone in all of this. God wins. Truth wins.
I hear you smirking behind your monitor, pede. I bet you have the same killswitch in mind on the 20th, haha.
Please tell me about it. I love my family and there is no animosity, but their ignorance can be a bit infuriating. They all hate Trump, but can't tell me why. Say he's racist, but can't tell me single racist thing he has done. My sister who voted can't explain why she mail voted for Biden. They just don't know anything. They never do the research. They hear an NPR story and think they're an expert. What's funny is that my apolitical Mom and oldest Democrat sister who both can't vote atleast agree there is something fishy going on with the election. While my other sister who is an Independent can vote is adamant there is no evidence of fraud. Blames Donald Trump for dividing us and fomenting the fraud conspiracy when I brought up the hundreds of affidavits she said they were all lying. She just mentally turtles up when she can't explain something.
The only person in my family who knows anything is my dad. He's the reason I'm interested in history and politics. While he doesn't keep up as much as I do he does enough to be red pilled. I was a bit shocked how much he came to distrust the mainstream news and was even saying a Civil War was looming. He was more certain of fraud before I was and was White pilling harder than I was at first. Was really encouraged by him to keep faith.
This describes to of my sons, they despise Trump but it is all based on the media bullshit. Can't clearly articulate a valid reason.
That's scary and reminds me of Alex talking about how commie Mao had kids turning against parents and even killing them. Mao's youth brigades and the red guard. The crazier ones even practiced cannibalism.
Exactly the same thing with all the young people in my family. The party's first priority should be to target the youth the Dems have an iron grip on, or we'll never win an election in the future.
hang tight Fren. When Trump wins, you can throw it back in their faces with a "I told you so" Then say, "How could you not see it but I could?"
That's a hard one, hang on. I've done that with family along with friends I've had for 20 years. It's painful but better to give space right now than to go full scorched earth. Personally I'm hoping little talks and slow information will chip away at things.
How can you call yourself a Conservative and not vote Trump? The Democrats are crazy and Trump has given us a lot. The only major fault I have with the guy is the deficit and no Republican is ever good about that. My dad and I are lifelong Republicans and didn't vote for Trump in 2016 because he had no record, we didn't like his style and we didn't trust him, but the both of us came around when he delivered results and advanced a Conservative agenda. We both understood actions speak louder than words. Add on how crazy Democrats have gotten how do you not vote Trump?
Trump's approval rating among Republicans is like 94%. Anyone who claims to be a conservative while voting for Biden is almost certainly a liar.
Democrats believe words over actions. That's the pri.ary difference.
Trump had zero control over the deficit so I never understand those who fault him for it. The House controls the purse strings then the Senate signs on. They always have the numbers to over ride his veto. Bottom line he's been positioning things so he can deal with the deficit despite Congress in his second term just as he did in order to secure our southern border.
Stay strong. You're not alone.
you have to try and see life through their eyes.
In today's fake news climate, in order to stay informed, you have to be a part time investigative journalist and not everyone had time for that. Most people spend their time thinking about work, friends, family, their future, etc..
In essence, what you are suggesting about this election is that there is a massive conspiracy between all of these tech companies, our government, many of world's governments, many big businesses, and the news media all purposefully lying trying to us, to achieve some end result. What you are saying is that everything they've been taught is a lie. Like trying to get someone to accept they're living in the Matrix.
The beauty of our country, is that people have the freedom not to vote. Unfortunately, the other side is pushing a narrative that you NEED to vote. Most people shouldn't for the reasons I explained above. You don't have to be informed, but if you're not, you shouldn't vote. I could go on, but long posts don't get read.
The reason I know I can trust a lot of the sources posted on this site is because when I listen to the actual person speak live, whether it’s Trump or Giuliani or Powell or whoever, the sources I see here reflect what I saw and heard. However, the MSM just straight up lies or focuses on some insignificant sound bite to discredit everything.
What’s sad is that so many people don’t trust the actual person speaking. They only trust what comes through the CNN filter. So despite trump denouncing white supremacy dozens of times or Giuliani reading signed affidavits, they’re liars because the CNN filter told me so. People are so retarded.
It’s like when one parent says to their kid,”you’re grounded” and then the kid looks at the other parent hoping he’ll say “no no moms just upset you’re not really grounded.” Grown up children shouldn’t be allowed to vote
I think the gaslighting effects me more than anything. It’s frustrating and infuriating and I try not to think this way, but every time I find out someone voted for Biden, I think this person must be dumb or evil. I love a couple of these people because they’re my fam, but wtf? Are you really dumb or are you just straight up evil?
Huge social pressures to vote certain ways. So they are generally weak of character and uninformed
They were deliberately brainwashed by people they were trained to trust. Pity them. Pray for them. Love them. Learn to laugh like a bemused Dad when his beloved child says something foolish. Or respond sincerely with "thank you for sharing" then move on. Do not reward them by engaging.
Hahaha that makes me feel better about my intolerance
When I went to school, there was less homework and more of the student studying independently because they wanted to learn.
I went to a in university recently and was shocked that teachers give students notes as downloads and give them old tests. Give tons of homework via third party software that the teacher never teaches about or uses for tests. But then uses the grade from it.
Kids are being conditioned earlier as well to be handed information from a source and trained to only seek the correct answers from one source...that is handed to them.
Talking to students now a days I am amazed they can't listen to a teacher to discern what facts they need to write down, what to question, and where to look up well documented sources. Please keep in mind there are some but very few that strive for more. Those are rare.
All I can think of when I hear one of them rant about thier source of information is - you are the child that was left behind and liked it.
Exactly! Glad to hear I am not alone in seeing this in classes.
It’s not even that, it’s just that we’re all so done with school and realize that it’s the sheet of paper that matters at the end of the day, not how smart you are or how much you think. We just want to get over it already. Having an opinion means you risk pissing off the professor and thus your grade, and if your grade is bad—well then your life is essentially over. And it’s just not worth the risk.
So, we just don’t care anymore. The only thing that gives us a modicum of happiness is the superficial crap that just leaves us feeling emptier than we were before, mostly because all the things that provide true happiness (friends, intact & non-insane families, achievement of goals, etc.) don’t actually exist anymore. Demoralization psyop complete. Here, have a blackpill.
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I'm a college student and you nailed the situation perfectly.
"don't use wikipedia, anyone can edit it" = every teacher I ever had
"yeah, so scroll down and click on the sources" = literally anyone with even a single IQ point
The silver lining for me is that a lot of people are showing their true colors thanks to this. I ended my relationship with several people that filled their mouths with democracy for decades but they suddenly seem not that into it anymore. Naming Trump is all you need to do for them to jump on the "the end justifies the means" wagon.
I'm not gonna be friend of no fascist.
They've been conditioned by experts to have a Pavlovian meltdown triggered by Trumps name, voice or image. Their victims of pure evil. Their rage triggers addictive feel good biochemicals plus they've been conditioned to believe their rage proves their superior intelligence, education and VIRTUE. Pity them. Pray for them. Love them. They're victims of horrific intentional abuse. They're also really dangerous.
Exactly. This is all psychological conditioning by mass media.
AGREED!! When they stand with the left, they are the left.
Exactly. I told them, you have sat back and watched YOUR FELLOW CITIZENS, family/friends/strangers even, be silenced, threatened with physical harm, threatened with financial ruin, actual physical attacks, threatened to be put on lists, censored, silenced and punished by massive entities like Facebook, Twitter, YouTube...and you've said NOTHING. You've allowed your family and friends to be called racist, nazis, white supremacists , RUSSIANS and you've said NOTHING. You've done worse though: you have shown me you think so little of me that I'm not even worth the effort of having an open conversation and you've tried to invalidate every single point I've tried to make. Let's see if the MSM, Big Tech and your social media platforms are there for you when you need them like Ive been.
Sorry to say it, but your sister sounds like a blithering idiot. “I vote because vagina power.”
We have to stop legitimizing it as news. They are state propaganda. Period. No different than if you put on the "news" in North Korea.
Then why doesn't it favor President Trump? They may ask.
Because he is not the state. He never was. He wasn't supposed to be able to win.
Calling it biased news is wrong. Calling it fake news is wrong. Agreeing that they're just trying to make money and gain viewers is wrong. Agreeing that at least Fox News is fair is wrong (and always has been). It is not news. It is propaganda. The purpose is to tell the masses what and how to think.
THAT'S why it isn't on the news.
Corporate media platforms. CMPs.
People like acronyms. It makes them feel smart when they know what it stands for.
I'll ask people what the CMPs are saying. They ask what it is. I tell them. It makes sense. I use it again. Now I've conditioned them with a new moniker for a new idea.
Calling it "news" has too much baggage. You have to make up a new term to promote a new idea. The Left understands this way better than our side, which is why they get away with it.
Don't argue, Don't debate. Just focus on what we're doing here. These people's opinions do not control anything. I have family members who act like this as well but I simply ignore them because I know they are in for a rude awakening when President Trump starts his second term in Jan 2021.
Like I said before. If this was just a simple case of random cases of voter fraud then I would give President Trump a 95% chance of pulling this off but it's not just voter fraud. What is happening in the 2020 elections as we week speak is a coordinated voter fraud effort in conjunction with the biggest Election fraud scan ever ran in American history by Democrats, Rinos, traitors in multiple government agencies, American Mainstream media and BIG TECH(Twitter, facebook and Youtube) in partnership with FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS. This is beyond voter fraud what is happening is TREASON at the highest levels.
That's why Sidney Powell said if Biden was smart he would concede RIGHT NOW because the longer they keep this going the harder it will be for any of them to get out of it. So President Trump starts in second term in Jan 2021 one way or another. There is no other way it can be. This goes beyond the 2020 election this is about America choosing to fight the deepstate and their foreign government partners or surrendering America to them. NO matter what anyone tells you we have Patriots in our government who ISN'T SURRENDING SHIT TO ANY OF THESE TRAITORS. So I say relax and let the process play out while knowing that President Trump starts his second term in Jan 2021 because it can be no other way now. The Democrats can only blame themselves for making it this way. They could have easily just left President Trump alone and let him have his two terms in office and find a way to win in 2024 then undo everything that President Trump did during his 8 years in office but nooooooooooooo the dems and their Globalist partners had to play games.. The dems and globalists are going to lose what little power they thought they had in America.
Well good, because there can't be one. The left is an existential threat, and you can't deal with such a thing by hugging and making up.
We are going to have to fight them sooner or later.
I hate to break it to you, but your sister is a retard. Not to mention a prime example of why the Founders didn't want universal suffrage. Because the average person has no business voting.
Yeah. The only thing that stops me from being right there is the feeling that I am being pushed there.
They’ve obviously set this up to split the country so they don’t have to pay the $26 trillion in debt that they have run up. Of course many people say that they have taken out an additional $75 trillion in illegal loans and that’s the real reason that they want to split. Start their own country no debt they can live with China and be communists all they want
Who says this, I would like to listen
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/news-and-views-from-the-nefarium/id1167252097
This is the exact episode where he talked about it but then he also talked about it on a “higher side chats“ and he references a lady who works with black budgets in there and you can look her up as well https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/news-and-views-from-the-nefarium/id1167252097?i=1000498536097
We need more conservatives to become teachers in public schools. I did it for 16 years in Los Angeles. It's exhausting, but we need to do it.
Bless you for doing it. It takes more strength than people realize, especially in Los Angeles. My conservative Mex-American great uncle taught in LA public schools until his death in the 90s, and he felt that decade would be the beginning of the end. He'd be appalled at how bad things are now.
I am extremely grateful for the few conservative teachers I had in my very blue state. They were very cagey with their political beliefs for fear of losing their job, but talking to them outside of class really molded my political views. Winning the young people is the key
Our educational system has NOT failed. They have achieved the goals they set out for themselves: To indoctrinate the children, not educate them. To destroy the children's sense of self, sense of family, sense of community, and sense of patriotism.
I feel your pain, Fren
Then you guilt-trip them. Show them the horrors of Stalin and Mao, and show them how they are advocating for it by their policies because they mirror what those horrible commies stated. Use their own strengths against them. It’s likely their weakness too. If they’re standing for socialism because of emotions, then they’ll fall for it because of emotions too.
For family and friends stuck on MSM it may benefit to get them to watch the out of shadows documentary. https://www.outofshadows.org/
You’ve got my respect for hanging in there and sharing information. I know it takes a toll. Know you’ve got us and our support here when you need a dose of MAGA to keep going!
you have it in one....
We need our own long march through the institutions. Either we do it now or the constitutional republic is at stake.
Also, there have been pics going around on the internet showing the media's connections with the democratic party leadership. If you can find them, you can easily argue that the entire media is basically the propaganda wing of the dem party. BTW, the redpilling process can take months.
The HCQ argument is fairly useful in such cases. Almost neutral topic, but touches at the heart of the matter. Media willingly uses a fraud paper, that was likely paid for, to discredit Trump. Lancet then issues a retraction and apology on paper citing poor source, but no similar coverage on media to retract the story or apology for lying to the people for political gain.
If you find that you’re the smartest person in the room, then find a new room.
The irony in voting for a woman because she's a woman is high. They claim to want everyone treated equally and not on sex, but then proceed to treat people unfairly based upon their sex. I never understood that argument.
I did a full stop on discussing politics with libs since the election. Why let them gloat? There's no fun in it for me. So I just smile and say we'll see what happens.
Works amazingly well.
Show them Joan Rivers talking about big Mike being the first gay couple etc.
Your libtard family is fucking stupid and nearly beyond salvage, but then so is mine and I've stopped trying to straighten the poor stupid Bastards out.
Sorry, pede. You need to work on that. We're talking total cluelessness.
Everybody should be forced to watch I'm just a Bill 10 times in a row before they registered to vote. https://youtu.be/tyeJ55o3El0
On the one hand, these types of complacent people have destroyed our country. On the other hand, these people will roll over and offer no resistance when we take it back
When things break in Trump's favor, and your family is freaking out, it's these talks with you that will bring them to sanity. You're doing good work. Keep at it, just don't run until your tank is dry. Keep some energy for yourself.
Me too pede. People love being concerned over stuff they know nothing about but heard something about it on TV or FB.......
It annoys me too.
Those who are so willfully ignorant when given all the information at their fingertips will be damned to the hell they helped create. God doesn't reward those who stick their heads in the sand.
If anyone from the left tries to argue with you, just tell them they are too stupid to talk to you as long as they still watch CNN or MSNBC or support BLM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmLDxiI_dgs