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This is an incredibly serious development IF it is true. We've been hearing rumblings about this for days, but all I'm hearing is unsubstantiated (and that "Egypt helicopter crash" people are saying is the cover does not match the timeline).
I want to see the evidence. A report from the German police, a statement from an eyewitness willing to speak in public (even anonymously). We work with facts here, and I need more before I believe that American soldiers were killed in a firefight abroad against American intelligence agents.
You'll hear that when and if they're ready to release it. It's a big fucking deal it's not something you blast to our enemies (foreign and domestic). All I know is Sidney has held her guns on the server report now for a couple weeks. You think she would have stuck with a lie this long, given especially that she already has enough civilian evidence of fraud to overturn the election on that fact alone? Makes no fucking sense. It's not a larp.
she got some intelligence clearance in respect to her work as attorney for Gen. Flynn, who, of course is former military intelligence in his last active duty capacities
Flynn probably had it stripped when he was charged. However, most of it depends on how you are relieved of duty. Brennan had his stripped well after he left government.
The swamp uses it to get higher paying private sector jobs (which are mostly government funded)
Oh my God shut the fuck up shill. What the fuck are you doing to fight for this country between jerking off to donkey porn and scratching your fat ass? Powell and Wood are in the fucking trenches, filing subpoenas, suing governors, filing 104 page lawsuits that stitch together hundreds of affidavits and evidence and your doomed fucktard lame ass can only manage to parrot the most dipshit low IQ shillspeak I've ever fucking heard in my life. Go to hell.
Nomally I take things here with confidence, but in this particular scenario, I personally want to exercise EXTREME caution before I'm on board. Americans killing Americans in furtherance of a political conspiracy is LITERALLY an instance of civil warfare, and I want to be very sure before I form an opinion on this.
Lt. Gen Mcinerney made this claim, but it's noted that apparently he's been retired for years and so I don't know why he would be privy to a brief this sensitive if retired. Sidney Powell substantiates the claim, and her knowledge I believe is more reliable since she's in the thick of the fight.
HOWEVER, while I do trust these people, especially Sidney atm, this is something with national ramifications so serious that if I am to believe it totally, I need to know more.
Arrive at your own conclusions however, I'm watching this like a hawk till I know, personally.
INFORMATIONAL UPDATE EDIT:
https://themarshallreport.wordpress.com/2020/11/21/trump-orders-useucom-to-seize-scytl-servers-in-germany/
While searching the web looking for further information on this, it appears that this has been "known" since at least Nov. 13th. In the link, there is an embedded tweet containing a video of Rep. Louis Gohmert mentioning "Scytl servers being seized by US Army forces" in Frankfurt, though to be clear, he too says he is uncertain of the facts. The tweet only got to a couple dozen thousand it seems, so coupled with media blackout its no wonder I haven't seen this yet.
PEDES, I NEED YOUR HELP. Gohmert mentioned this was tipped off to him by a "German tweet, written in German" that this "raid" occurred "on a Monday" or something. I have no idea where to look though, not my language. If someone can help us locate that tweet, we might be able to comb through it and see if we can learn more for ourselves? If we're lucky enough the tweet has a photo, we might be able to pull EXIF data and see if the geocoordinates match up with a known Scytl property?
I know there has been a lot of talk about misinfo being pushed on here to discredit the community. This seems like the most suspicious post I have seen to this end. I dont believe this stuff tbh. Weird to me Sidney would RT it.
If Sidney Powell is leaking bullshit, our cause is in big trouble. That would mean that not only is Gen. McInerney lying; it would mean Gen. Flynn is as well.
If even a significant number of patriots really think she's spouting lies, our cause is in big trouble.
I do not believe that Sidney Powell is lying.
If Sidney confirms it, it means she knows it's true and can prove it.
This right here. Exactly what purpose does it accomplish for Sidney to retweet this? Absolutely none.
She's about as smart as you can be and would NOT in a million years risk the biggest case in her career by retweeting some LARP bullshit.
People can be so impatient with their "gimme gimme gimme" attitudes. These lawyers aren't gonna reveal a damn thing until they're good and ready to. They don't give a shit if some people here throw a fit because they can't wait.
The press conference where Sidney said she didn't know if the good guys or the bad guys got the server and Rudy snickered in the background was 100% confirmation the server is real.
The only question I have now is the extent of the operation to obtain the server. We have all been hearing little snips here and there about casualties, but I'm still holding that aspect as unconfirmed, but likely.
She orginally said she didn't know if the good guys got the server or the bad guys. She later went on to say it was the good guys. I wasn't sure which organization she was referring to at the time. Now it looks like;
Good guys = US militaryBad guys = CIA
I wish it was simple profit motive because at least that would make sense. We're not dealing with conventional grifters and corruption. This is about the power to dictate reality and ensure the public doesn't have a seat at the table of the coming age of abundance, life extension technology, and interstellar civilization. Strictly speaking, they don't want to share and they can't stand anyone telling them "no."
Of course that is obviously true... it still doesn't detract from the argument for its use if in actuality you believe that we had a deep state openly firing Americans on Americans in a coup.
I'll give my BS opinion.. maybe no marshall law because Trump wants to avoid that at all costs. Once you have military boots on American soil, it might make the situation a lot more complicated for Trump. We don't know if the ENTIRE military is going to do everything Trump wants, they might become pawns/puppets of the deep state governers from corrupt states. And it might be hard to get them off of our soil once you push that button. If this can be solved without marshall law, that's ideal.
huh? Corrupt police doesn't even come close to the ramifications of having an open battle between the military and another separate branch of service where the stakes for the country couldn't be higher.
That would be like saying you don't call the fire department to put out a camp fire. No, you don't but you probably ought to call it if your house is on fire.
IF this is true, and we all should be reasonably skeptical of something this big, then I don’t see any way for there to be a peaceful resolution to this. If they are willing to kill their own countrymen to maintain the steal then this is the first shots fired in a civil war.
Likely there is not a peaceful resolution. The goal then would be to contain it to the six states that have through their actions seceded from the union.
COvid theater the over arching excuse, desperation is their gas to do moronic things.
We are kind of in the middle of a coordinated effort to overthrow the duly elected President of the United States of America. Ridiculous left the building weeks ago.
Trolls are attacking Sydney Powell. General McCrystal comes to mind here. He's a destructive, Hillary guy and announced he was going to use online trolls & AI to attack Trump campaing "narrative". The election fraud fits right into it.
I find it funny 3 minutes prior to acting like you knew nothing about the story you suddenly know Sidney retweeted something about it. You seem like a shill...
Oh, please.... do you honestly believe that there would be a firefight in one of Germany’s largest cities and no one in the German media would report it?
If it involves special forces against CIA facilities? FUCK NO. Do you realize how many spec ops missions go on every fucking day that you never fucking hear about?
You live in a fantasy world if you believe there was a firefight in Frankfurt. Anyways, you tards will latch on to some other LARPer fantasy in a day or two, so there’s no point to any serious discussion.
I feel like everyone here is very cautious about being fooled by larp's. This one keeps surfacing and key people are talking about it. It might still be a larp/purposeful disinformation, but to dismiss it out of hand seems too flippant.
No ones saying there was Apaches firing machines guns outside the Alte Oper. Probably just a few rounds fired in a server farm warehouse in the outskirts of the city.
Hey, where do you get your news on Delta Force raids? Do you have a source? How many missions have they conducted in the past 6 months? How many teams are there? Where are they deployed right now? How many casualties have they had this year?
Having a clearance and having access are two entirely different things. I have a clearance for top secret. I have zero access as i no longer work for
The military or state department where they would grant me the level of access up to top clearance but not unless I might need that shit to do my job. . Could only need a secret or confidential level access so they can give you that because TS is higher. There are other types of clearances. PRP stuff...etc. all the Clearance does is validate your background was done going back ten years and they see no risk at this time.
You have no idea how media in Germany works. Having a single person die in Germany is big news, having five Americans die there would be major national headlines.
leaving aside whether or not it even happened, you have an incredibly illogical optimism bias regarding how media — in Germany and in general — works, so take your pompous, arrogant, condescending sanctimonious bullshit elsewhere
Why do you think they had the servers in Germany I'm the first place? And God, yes, Merkel and her ilk run the EU and want desperately to extend that God awful construction to all parts of the western world.
The original info I read about the German servers said that it was not even a raid. Just a team of military and legal people who had full access to the location, went in, grabbed the servers and left.
This would be my guess as well. I do also recognize if there was a legit black ops activity, it would still likely be reported as people just going in and grabbing a server and leaving.
This is an incredibly serious development IF it is true. We've been hearing rumblings about this for days, but all I'm hearing is unsubstantiated (and that "Egypt helicopter crash" people are saying is the cover does not match the timeline). I want to see the evidence. A report from the German police, a statement from an eyewitness willing to speak in public (even anonymously). We work with facts here, and I need more before I believe that American soldiers were killed in a firefight abroad against American intelligence agents.
You'll hear that when and if they're ready to release it. It's a big fucking deal it's not something you blast to our enemies (foreign and domestic). All I know is Sidney has held her guns on the server report now for a couple weeks. You think she would have stuck with a lie this long, given especially that she already has enough civilian evidence of fraud to overturn the election on that fact alone? Makes no fucking sense. It's not a larp.
How does Sidney have the authority to be involved in something like this?
she got some intelligence clearance in respect to her work as attorney for Gen. Flynn, who, of course is former military intelligence in his last active duty capacities
Flynn wouldn't have clearance now though
his protege does and his lawyer does
I'll keep my fingers crossed on it
But once they are former, do they not stop getting new intelligence?
Flynn's protege Ezra Cohen-Watnick is in that loop
Flynn probably had it stripped when he was charged. However, most of it depends on how you are relieved of duty. Brennan had his stripped well after he left government.
The swamp uses it to get higher paying private sector jobs (which are mostly government funded)
Sydney supported the Hammer and Scorecard theory and it was perfectly debunked here. It's a scam. The old Air Force General gave her that bad info.
This is a blog from some rando on the internet. I'll take the 3 star general's word on this. It also aligns with the WikiLeaks drop from 2017:
https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/#ANALYSIS
https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/cms/space_31653889.html
In addition you can see the algorithmic manipulation of votes from Dr. shiva's analysis here: https://youtu.be/Ztu5Y5obWPk
Also backed up by Dr. Keshavar's analysis: https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/11/the_smartest_man_in_the_room_has_joined_sidney_powells_team.html
Wrong. Schachtell is excellent. Read his pieces on Covid, he got it right.
I'm not saying Dominion is not an open door for cheating.
He might have gotten Covid right. Doesn't mean he got this one right. Nobody bats 1.000.
Hammer & scorecard is a scam to solicit donations.
Oh my God shut the fuck up shill. What the fuck are you doing to fight for this country between jerking off to donkey porn and scratching your fat ass? Powell and Wood are in the fucking trenches, filing subpoenas, suing governors, filing 104 page lawsuits that stitch together hundreds of affidavits and evidence and your doomed fucktard lame ass can only manage to parrot the most dipshit low IQ shillspeak I've ever fucking heard in my life. Go to hell.
Bruh what on earth? Where is this coming from?
Nomally I take things here with confidence, but in this particular scenario, I personally want to exercise EXTREME caution before I'm on board. Americans killing Americans in furtherance of a political conspiracy is LITERALLY an instance of civil warfare, and I want to be very sure before I form an opinion on this.
Where can I see the arguments that this happened?
https://mobile.twitter.com/CheatedJoe/status/1332850029497896960
Lt. Gen Mcinerney made this claim, but it's noted that apparently he's been retired for years and so I don't know why he would be privy to a brief this sensitive if retired. Sidney Powell substantiates the claim, and her knowledge I believe is more reliable since she's in the thick of the fight. HOWEVER, while I do trust these people, especially Sidney atm, this is something with national ramifications so serious that if I am to believe it totally, I need to know more. Arrive at your own conclusions however, I'm watching this like a hawk till I know, personally.
INFORMATIONAL UPDATE EDIT: https://themarshallreport.wordpress.com/2020/11/21/trump-orders-useucom-to-seize-scytl-servers-in-germany/ While searching the web looking for further information on this, it appears that this has been "known" since at least Nov. 13th. In the link, there is an embedded tweet containing a video of Rep. Louis Gohmert mentioning "Scytl servers being seized by US Army forces" in Frankfurt, though to be clear, he too says he is uncertain of the facts. The tweet only got to a couple dozen thousand it seems, so coupled with media blackout its no wonder I haven't seen this yet.
PEDES, I NEED YOUR HELP. Gohmert mentioned this was tipped off to him by a "German tweet, written in German" that this "raid" occurred "on a Monday" or something. I have no idea where to look though, not my language. If someone can help us locate that tweet, we might be able to comb through it and see if we can learn more for ourselves? If we're lucky enough the tweet has a photo, we might be able to pull EXIF data and see if the geocoordinates match up with a known Scytl property?
Yeah that is really interesting but I agree, this is a huge claim and we need some evidence.
I know there has been a lot of talk about misinfo being pushed on here to discredit the community. This seems like the most suspicious post I have seen to this end. I dont believe this stuff tbh. Weird to me Sidney would RT it.
If Sidney Powell is leaking bullshit, our cause is in big trouble. That would mean that not only is Gen. McInerney lying; it would mean Gen. Flynn is as well.
If even a significant number of patriots really think she's spouting lies, our cause is in big trouble.
I do not believe that Sidney Powell is lying.
If Sidney confirms it, it means she knows it's true and can prove it.
I'm leaning towards this line of thinking. While still holding minor reservations on the fact that I DO NOT want civil war.
However if the situation in question is true... I got news for you. The war has already begun. We need confirmation on this ASAP
Sidney is telling the truth 100 percent.
she's staked her professional reputation on stating...She will never say anything unless she can prove it. Works for me.
This right here. Exactly what purpose does it accomplish for Sidney to retweet this? Absolutely none.
She's about as smart as you can be and would NOT in a million years risk the biggest case in her career by retweeting some LARP bullshit.
People can be so impatient with their "gimme gimme gimme" attitudes. These lawyers aren't gonna reveal a damn thing until they're good and ready to. They don't give a shit if some people here throw a fit because they can't wait.
Sidney may have a source she trusts, like Flynn McInerney, who could be wrong.
If I recall correctly the article said Somalia but it’s hard to tell the two apart these days.
The press conference where Sidney said she didn't know if the good guys or the bad guys got the server and Rudy snickered in the background was 100% confirmation the server is real. The only question I have now is the extent of the operation to obtain the server. We have all been hearing little snips here and there about casualties, but I'm still holding that aspect as unconfirmed, but likely.
Its happened and could happen again and is likely. Don't think like us, think like them.
She orginally said she didn't know if the good guys got the server or the bad guys. She later went on to say it was the good guys. I wasn't sure which organization she was referring to at the time. Now it looks like; Good guys = US military Bad guys = CIA
most I've heard from any Germans was on twitter some commented that 2 metro lines underneath the building were haulted for a few hours
It’s been war since 11/3 but most Americans don’t realize it.
When 6 states stopped counting at the same time and magically flipped, it was a declaration of war like two planes hitting the twin towers on 9/11
Six states = six planes hitting the towers
Good point
11/3 was our pearl harbor. Most people just don't realize it yet.
This is exactly my view
Lt. General Michael Flynn, Lt. General McInerney and Mary Fanning interviewed on this first here https://www.worldviewweekend.com/tv/video/wvw-tv-exclusive-lt-general-michael-flynns-first-interview-president-trumps-pardon
But over money. Not the stealing the republic. This is not that.
I think its more about power or the power that money can buy
I wish it was simple profit motive because at least that would make sense. We're not dealing with conventional grifters and corruption. This is about the power to dictate reality and ensure the public doesn't have a seat at the table of the coming age of abundance, life extension technology, and interstellar civilization. Strictly speaking, they don't want to share and they can't stand anyone telling them "no."
To them. But to me, I'd rather be dirt poor and free than comfortable or even rich and enslaved.
It's literally your freedom that has been stolen
There’s a fake Sidney account out there. Is this from the real account?
The fake is SidneyPowell12
There’s another one that is poweil instead of Powell
Must be a Dominion shill account!
If this happened (Which I highly doubt) then there is no reason or explanation for why Marital Law hasn't already happened.
It's being corroborated by three star generals and military lawyers. What more do you want? A CNN expose?
They have the media on lockdown. They are controlling the narrative. You will not get a breaking story that evokes emotion and sympathy for our side.
Source?
Common sense is the source and analytics is the tool.
Ok LARP
Going to need a source on that "claim"
Correct. People ares till acting like the country hasnt split
If that were the case - why not martial law?
Are you an expert on martial law?
What kind of response is that? It's not even an argument.
Just making the point that you don't know anymore about the proper time for martial law than anyone else on here.
Of course that is obviously true... it still doesn't detract from the argument for its use if in actuality you believe that we had a deep state openly firing Americans on Americans in a coup.
I'll give my BS opinion.. maybe no marshall law because Trump wants to avoid that at all costs. Once you have military boots on American soil, it might make the situation a lot more complicated for Trump. We don't know if the ENTIRE military is going to do everything Trump wants, they might become pawns/puppets of the deep state governers from corrupt states. And it might be hard to get them off of our soil once you push that button. If this can be solved without marshall law, that's ideal.
huh? Corrupt police doesn't even come close to the ramifications of having an open battle between the military and another separate branch of service where the stakes for the country couldn't be higher.
That would be like saying you don't call the fire department to put out a camp fire. No, you don't but you probably ought to call it if your house is on fire.
This could be Trump's back up plan. If the legal plan doesn't work, he releases the secret op info and server data from Langley.
Merkel hates Trump. Hell freezes over before she greenlights a server raid. It had to be a black op.
If the server data proves the election fraud and Trump is back in 2021, Merkel will be mad.
No one cares that Merkel is mad. If she's helping the globalists against the U.S. then she can go f*** herself
We are still in a national emergency that gives trump a ton of power.
IF this is true, and we all should be reasonably skeptical of something this big, then I don’t see any way for there to be a peaceful resolution to this. If they are willing to kill their own countrymen to maintain the steal then this is the first shots fired in a civil war.
Likely there is not a peaceful resolution. The goal then would be to contain it to the six states that have through their actions seceded from the union. COvid theater the over arching excuse, desperation is their gas to do moronic things.
This is all getting absolutely ridiculous
When was the last time things weren't absolutely ridiculous?
We are kind of in the middle of a coordinated effort to overthrow the duly elected President of the United States of America. Ridiculous left the building weeks ago.
This could have been the "Lexington and Concord" moment.
Sidney motherfucking Powell
Just the most reliable source we have...
Also discussed in this interview as well... https://gameruprising.to/index.php?threads/lt-general-mcinerny-kraken-is-codename-for-305th-military-intelligence-battalion-and-us-soldiers-were-killed-during-raid-on-cia-server.14751/
Trolls are attacking Sydney Powell. General McCrystal comes to mind here. He's a destructive, Hillary guy and announced he was going to use online trolls & AI to attack Trump campaing "narrative". The election fraud fits right into it.
Looks like Germany and Frankfurt with the loss of 5 soldiers
some stupid larp that refuses to die on this site.
It's backed up by Powell, Flynn, and McInerney.
Says the new account.
Which field office are you at? The DC office has been closed for a while and the cameras we have installed haven't shown cars enter or exit in months.
handshake account lol saying the larp refuses to die....hmmm how long you been here fella?
It’s a LARP about a fantasy firefight between the military and the CIA in Germany. Qfags have been eating it up since last night.
I find it funny 3 minutes prior to acting like you knew nothing about the story you suddenly know Sidney retweeted something about it. You seem like a shill...
We know special ops took a server from a CIA ran facility, confirmed by Generals Flynn & McInerney, just do not know if there was for sure casualties as of yet https://www.worldviewweekend.com/tv/video/wvw-tv-exclusive-lt-general-michael-flynns-first-interview-president-trumps-pardon
Okay, shill.
Oh, please.... do you honestly believe that there would be a firefight in one of Germany’s largest cities and no one in the German media would report it?
If it involves special forces against CIA facilities? FUCK NO. Do you realize how many spec ops missions go on every fucking day that you never fucking hear about?
You live in a fantasy world if you believe there was a firefight in Frankfurt. Anyways, you tards will latch on to some other LARPer fantasy in a day or two, so there’s no point to any serious discussion.
I feel like everyone here is very cautious about being fooled by larp's. This one keeps surfacing and key people are talking about it. It might still be a larp/purposeful disinformation, but to dismiss it out of hand seems too flippant.
No ones saying there was Apaches firing machines guns outside the Alte Oper. Probably just a few rounds fired in a server farm warehouse in the outskirts of the city.
A few rounds to kill 5 special ops guys? lol.
Yeah, no. A “firefight” would have went on for at least on hour with special ops guys. 5 of them aren’t simply going to roll over and take it.
Hey, where do you get your news on Delta Force raids? Do you have a source? How many missions have they conducted in the past 6 months? How many teams are there? Where are they deployed right now? How many casualties have they had this year?
Lt. Gen. Thomas McInerney and Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn both confirmed it in an interview: (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFNXi83JsoY)
Tell me. Did the Generals sound confident and authoritative or did they sound weak and whiny?
How would they know if the story is true or not?
Having a clearance and having access are two entirely different things. I have a clearance for top secret. I have zero access as i no longer work for The military or state department where they would grant me the level of access up to top clearance but not unless I might need that shit to do my job. . Could only need a secret or confidential level access so they can give you that because TS is higher. There are other types of clearances. PRP stuff...etc. all the Clearance does is validate your background was done going back ten years and they see no risk at this time.
This is another flash in the pan LARPer fantasy that will be forgotten in a day or two.
Trump gave Flynn an Innocence Pardon so he could get his security clearance back. These are his credentials, so I would assume he is very much in the know right now: (https://www.dia.mil/About/Leadership/Article-View/article/567051/ltg-michael-t-flynn-usa/)
Do you understand how security clearances work?
Officers do not lose their clearance, they are never retired. The main difference between enlisted and officer rankings.
Having a security clearance doesn’t give you unlimited access to everything. It’s not that difficult to understand.
You have no idea how media in Germany works. Having a single person die in Germany is big news, having five Americans die there would be major national headlines.
Not Americans vs Americans involving CIA vs. DoD. Sorry dip shit. You would not hear a god damn thing.
You’re too stupid to live. lol
leaving aside whether or not it even happened, you have an incredibly illogical optimism bias regarding how media — in Germany and in general — works, so take your pompous, arrogant, condescending sanctimonious bullshit elsewhere
It’s okay. After this LARPer fantasy dies off you can pretend you never defend it before finding another fantasy to latch onto.
Yes because in Europe press are corrupted like in America
Actually they are. Watch Euronews TV on KlowdTV. Free till end of 2020. If Euronews isn’t CNN 2.0 in overspeed then all reality is gone.
The only allies we have in Europe are Poland, Hungary, Russia and UK patriots who voted for Brexit.
Gun crime and murder is so rare in Germany that a firefight would make headlines for months.
Majority of peops here 100% distrusts the media... the media lies / omit every day, that's a fact.
Biden is not president elect and Omitting a gun fight is not impossible. It would not be the first time the Germans have hiden some gunfights.
So, the German media is in on it too? lol
Why do you think they had the servers in Germany I'm the first place? And God, yes, Merkel and her ilk run the EU and want desperately to extend that God awful construction to all parts of the western world.
You know nothing about Germany you moron. If this happened on German soil there’s no way the government or media would be silent about it.
Yup, five Americans are killed in a firefight in Germany and nobody in Germany reported it. Keep reaching...
RIP. Let their sacrifice not be in vain.
Sounds like cream of bullshit to me.
People posting LARPs should be deported starting with u/andrewjackson45
The original info I read about the German servers said that it was not even a raid. Just a team of military and legal people who had full access to the location, went in, grabbed the servers and left.
This would be my guess as well. I do also recognize if there was a legit black ops activity, it would still likely be reported as people just going in and grabbing a server and leaving.