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I can tell some funny stories about the obamacare website. I know quite a few people that worked on it. There’s a reason it was a disaster.
Edit: Ok, seems I got a little interest so I’ll spill a bit.
It cost billions! And didn’t work.
There’s a few reasons for that.
A shitload of software developers (almost all I would bet) on this project were brand new - they were new graduates, but the companies they were working for made a bunch of fake resumes, and just chucked as many people at it as they could. They were billed at senior developer rates or higher - the prime contracting company took most of the fee and the government just kept throwing money at it.
Here’s a funny one - one of the guys I know did nothing but change the CSS colors. Billed out at probably 150 bucks an hour, for months, to just change a color. Work that could be done in seconds. Now, multiply that a few hundred times and you start to see how big of a racket this was.
So not only was this wasteful and fraudulently billed, but the company that was taking the money wasn’t even American. They had some American subcontractors, but the fact is the majority of the money spent on the project was just shuttled out of the country to foreign business owners.
Looking back on it and knowing what I know now, it was probably some sort of kickback scheme.
Youre missing a lot of awesome shit, dude. The only sport related thing i watch is the olympics. Just on eye candy alone you got brazilan pole vaulters, gymnastics ninja bitches, volleyball beach goddesses, then they start shooting shit, high dives and all kindsa stuff...then men fight in all kinds of ways.
No big deal, some people just don't like sports or competition. Me, I've never watched a chess match, car race, fishing, NBA game, golf or poker tournament, episode of Seinfeld or Friends or 24 or CSI or the Office or Sex in the City, etc.
Diversity!?
Olympics has NO focus on diversity, Diversity of Olympic competion arenas full of coloured poeple just happened to be a RESULT of NOT doing anything of interference.
Olympics's a Merit 100% world. The 8 fastest sprint Athelete gets chosen for the final date, no questions (except doping and gender irregularities) asked. Though where are the overweight 100m sprinter representation? None right?
BTW fun fact for any who care, all others please disregard, thanks:
Color has no U. The original English ending centuries ago for such words was -or. Then "elites" decided to fancy it up with a bunch of pussy-ass Frenchy spelling affectations, like adding a silent letter (the characteristic fetish of French spelling). Glamour, clamour, colour, endeavour, etc. Adding extra letters for the sake of it, like the pointless double X in "vaxxer" or "doxxing." LOL
That's true. Ironic then that they use the Olympics as a reason for why America performs so well in multiple sports and why we need diversity. Normies don't question it.
You are severely mistaken if you think DIEversity programs don’t exist in the olympics. Most nations have DIEversity programs to even get to that level, IE team USA etc. don’t think for a second they don’t.
Nah, they go to taco sheds and shish kebab joints, and act like it's such a great life to travel across the world and serve food up to their white liberal ass on a fancy white plate during Girl's night out.
Seeking diversity and non-diverse groups generally is a bad decision is what I believe you're saying. As in, the best person for the task is whomever has demonstrated the ability to perform the task best. Am I correct?
It's definitely a positive when used properly. Forced diversity doesn't work. Organic diversity is how the planet has survived and thrived. There's nothing wrong with learning from other cultures. Trying to tell white people they are evil and force them out of jobs for lesser qualified minorities isn't diversity. Don't get the two confused.
Organic Diversity = Christian Armies of the various states of the Holy Roman Empire, what was left of Hungary, and Poland-Lithuania voluntarily combining under the leadership of King John III of P-L to defeat the Ottoman Turks during the battle of Vienna in 1683. Staying power of heavily armored German knights combined with the agility and speed of the famed winged Hussars of Poland & Hungary. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Vienna
Forced Diversity = The Janissaries on the other side of the same battle.
Nope. I checked out the names of people and their LinkedIn profiles back then to see if they were diversity employees. They were not. They were people who had worked on Obama's campaign and had degrees in English, Film Making and so on.
Actually, just need to hand sort them by precinct and by say Trump/Pence vs evil/commies into two piles and weight them. Don't even need to count most of the time, bc the weight differences are small; and if a batch is nearly equal, that's okay too; bc it's the total weights that matter. if the total is close, then can count. but weighing takes like 1% of the time & money, so doing it first is best.
And to "check" a stack of Trump/Pence or evil/commie mini-piles just play Flip-Book on the ends, and any non-votes or opposite votes stand out quickly. So can check and recheck with different people, VERY quickly by hand.
PS sorting can be by hand easy enough, or can be done by simple machine (like the post office does for envelopes). the quick sort within a precinct into two piles goes Very fast too.
That wouldn't work well. The difference in paper is small, but with a large amount it could vary a lot. Also, depending on what all was filled out on the ballot, the weight from ink or pencil could change individual ballot weights. Also, if some ballots happened to be fraudulent they could be a different weight, and would throw the weights off even more. Also, considering any damage, dirt, or spills on any ballots could change the weight.
When factoring all the small differences into large piles of ballots, it could vary more than you'd think. There's a trick for checking a scales weight. You throw a bill or a nickel on it. A bill is 1g and a nickel is 5g. You'd think they would be pretty consistent, I've seen them off weight plenty of times.
Most ballots are fairly pristine. Some % will have problems. Each "type" of ballot is generally separated into different piles anyhow (so the weights are about the same for each type.) Unlike coinage in circulation, most ballots haven't been around too long. And in fact it's easier the more there are in a pile; and if really want to get down to it, can like with paper money bundle them in stacks of 100's.
Having worked a Census, including at one of the processing centers that handled 60 million forms in a few months; and having worked many election polls; the weight method gives a good rough quicksort method. Like I said about 1% of the time and cost; so it can be done as a first rough draft, and depending on what the ratios are, lets further counting be done on subsets.
A mobile server is a portable server. It doesn’t have to be connected to the internet if they’re hardwired to it, it just needs data to be stored and is then sent back to Dominion. Physically or through a secure tunnel. Or it’s on an intranet system. Still though, a random crash? I doubt it.
Not sure if anyone cares but I study this stuff, so it’s not outlandish to store data like this.
You mean hand count with a witness and all? Fuck that, typical conservative wanting to take us back to the dark ages.. Don’t you know these machines are fool proof!
A crash can be related to anything regarding the server. It doesn’t have to be over the internet. Maybe if they told us the problem, but of course they wont. Intranet servers can crash just as much as internet servers. A server crash is called a server crash for a reason. But if you have experience in this area of study, I am open to correction.
A server crash is called a server crash for a reason. But if you have experience in this area of study, I am open to correction.
If it legitimately crashed during a recount process when all you're doing is tabulating vote tallies, the software was shit.
Seriously.
This isn't hard to accomplish. Presumably the tabulators take totals and if they're using a remote host to aggregate the results, it shouldn't be that much traffic and it shouldn't crash. Even doing it with an HTTP endpoint that receives the count totals would only be a few tens of thousands of requests.
So, my conclusion is that it's plausible it wasn't a "crash" as much as the server may have stopped responding to requests. Which, again, would mean that they didn't either a) have enough bandwidth to handle the spike in requests or b) the software for whatever reason wasn't able to handle that many concurrent requests.
FWIW it's not that hard to have an application handle a fairly simple series of write requests (say storing figures in a database) to the tune of a couple thousand requests per second. That would almost certainly be more than enough to handle all the precincts in question. Which is why I don't buy this argument either unless the software is total crap. If they needed more capacity, they should be able to afford it.
The reality is there's probably something else going on.
I understand what youre saying. I agree that if it stopped, it would more closely be related to bandwidth or a software problem. I think I am trying to think too hard into it as there it’s like trying to solve a ghost. I was just thinking that the remote host was just on-site in an intranet environment and that from a troubleshooting perspective, bandwidth shouldn’t be the issue. But again it’s all perspective. I was thinking the server flipped out but forgot about the software.
Sorry :( I feel hella uneducated considering I’m studying networking
Basically what I'm saying is that this isn't hard. The fact Dominion is making this hard tells of two potential outcomes:
They're lying.
They're incompetent.
These are not binary options, of course. Both could be true. But the reality is that vote tabulation shouldn't be a difficult problem unless one or both of these conditions happens to be true. I'm leaning more toward #1, because it's almost certainly the case that Dominion is lying about this alleged crash.
I'm a software developer who primarily focuses on backend services, so I have experience with networking, protocols like HTTP, and interfacing with databases. Rest assured that when I say this isn't a hard problem, it's not a hard problem unless they're deliberately trying to cover up for something.
I wrote a post a while back about how the "ideal" voting machine should be developed. We have the technology to do this in a way that would be both auditable and secure. The fact that it's not suggests very strongly that it's a deliberate design to exercise control over the electoral system.
I'll repost my points here (with some modifications) so that readers don't need to click through to another comment. A secure voting machine should tick at least the following boxes:
Any machine used to count should have its software entirely open source. It should be independently audited and should be entirely auditable.
The entire toolchain used to compile that source should produce deterministic output. i.e. it should be possible to validate that input A produces binary B.
The software should be entirely self-contained on a ROM. It should not be possible to modify the tabulator in any way after it has been imaged from the factory. It should also be possible to dump the ROM so that the image can be independently validated to match the requirements of #2.
The machines should have only one external port: Power. No networking. No USB. Concessions could be made for USB or some other header to allow for writing the results to removable storage.
Re-flashing the machine should not be possible.
Any debugging interface (e.g. JTAG) should not have the ability to write values into the machine's RAM.
The final output from the tabulator should use an onboard private key that generates a dump of the final tally. This would produce a specialized hash or encoded value that would then be uploaded to the state office. It could be validated against the public key for that machine (verification; signature generated by the machine's private key) and encrypted using the state's public master key, which would then decrypt the results with its private key.
We could then mandate, by law, that the results be released in their entirety and in a decrypted form. In fact, probably producing a signature + encrypted plain text + signature would be a better option for public validation since the public wouldn't have access to the private keys to decrypt the data. So that way you could validate both the encrypted data and the signature of the plain text.
As much as I hate to say "blockchain" because I think too many people point to it as a panacea, it might be useful to at least distribute the signatures on a blockchain, but I think this is overkill for the purpose.
Ideally, you would have the people running the tabulators only having access to a) reset the current tally and b) upload the final results from the tabulator that cannot be manipulated, because they'll be generated by the machine along with the appropriate signature. Clearly this doesn't obviate other issues such as people running Biden ballots through the machine more than once, but that's an issue with all vote tabulation systems (even manually) that has to be resolved by law.
And I think that last bit could be resolved by mandating that anyone who interferes with the election process, observers, etc., is shot on sight. But alas, one can dream.
I agree, we need more info to know for sure. But it's unlikely a local server is going to go down and no one on-site can fix it before they start reporting the whole recount is "delayed"
It's almost like Trump let them do this to expose them. That why he tweeted out he was looking for the felons with the fake votes, not the missing votes.
I too would like to a full fucking refund. While we're at it, I want my fucking gas tax back, my road tax back and my state tax back because I'm not seeing shit it's used for.
I want the lotto, cigs, weed, and beer taxes back. They say poor people don't even pay taxes but I see them spending a lot of money on things that are mostly tax.
Can make computers that simulate real complex physics, modeled via top tier graphics chips, yet can’t program a simple vote tally software that keeps count without crashing and causing glitches. Hmmm.
When I think of a company like Dominion, I'm imagining they get the bottom of the barrel developer talent. So it doesn't surprise me that their software appears to have been designed by kindergartners.
Keep in mind this is stuff that programmers mastered 40 years+ ago and we are expected to believe that in 2020, it’s normal for software that is used to simply keep a vote tally in the most crucial election in our country crashes and glitches on a regular basis. Ok, boomer.
Ummm...whats with the server? Thought they weren't connected to internet. I bet thier havin problems... if the military took thier server... They are probably using servers in Iran to make it a bit harder to get this time.
Dude, you didn’t know that simple vote tally software can’t operate offline? Needs to be connected or else it can’t add numbers. Duh, everybody knows that.
Why do the dominion voting systems have (.irf?) [internet received files] that are able to be loaded into the system from the internet? Per their training video?
Why can't a machine do its job without a "mobile server"????
I'm going to put aside the fraud and talk about this from a purely practical standpoint.
The reason is cost. Pure and simple. Full stop.
Compared to each individual machine having the hardware necessary to do the work themselves, It is far cheaper to invest in one powerful, huge server that does all the heavy lifting, and leave the actual human interface devices as dumb terminals built using the cheapest parts you can find from the bottom of the Friday Night Special box in a Chinese sweatshop.
Just saying, I agree with what you say but you can also have a local server intranet, so, not connected to the Internet. But that’s not what this is, especially since we have documented proof these devices connected to the Internet, to devices in foreign and hostile countries to boot.
Even if 10 millions patriots showed up to peacefully protest in these swing states and DC, it would make zero difference in the outcome. The left just saw 73 million votes cast for Trump, almost 10 million more than 2016. They know he has massive support, they just don't care.
I don't think we need martial law, at least not at this point. We probably need SCOTUS to make one or more rulings that have the effect of taking the final stage of the election out of the electoral college's hands, and putting it into the House's one vote per state protocol.
Nah. She tried to steal the state, but Kemp pushed her out of the way. She was raising a racket complaining about it last year. Kemp brought Dominion in last year, but if you look at his record, he's been accused of election fuckery long before that.
Abrams wishes she has that much power that her "machine" would get that done. She's trying to build to that level, and is doing a piss poor job of it. Kemp is dirtier than her, is all.
We used to have an Old buldozer.. 1950s or so that had a cable wench on the back. We tied it to huge oak stumps and pulled em around to get some dirt off them. Those suckers were skipping over the ground. It would be the perfect tune em up device if it still ran. Tie it to thier legs and have 20-50 just bouncin along the ground. I reccomend some cactus or briar country with lots of rocks. Then untie em for the main event after some further questioning. Their not gonna abide by the damn law... fuck it. Reap what ya sowed commie traitors!!
Because it needs to be able to count fractions as well as wait until the counts are large enough no one will notice a 20,000 slip, and the machines need to coordinate so they don't have a "glitch" simultaneously, duh
Uh, I live where this fuckery isn't happening. This is up to Georgians to hold their State Government responsible. If their electors fraudulently vote for Biden is when the rest of the country steps in since it's national.
This is fraud. There is no server. The machines are not connected to the internet, and they require a usb drive to transfer results physically to central location. Sieze all machines immediately.
this is how elections should work..... ballots should be the same size as a dollar bill. one ballot for each candidate. after voting, all the ballots for one candidate are put in one pile. one pile for each candidate. all this is witnessed by dems and repubs. then a standard dollar counting machine counts the piles. then recounts the piles. then recounts the piles again.
It crashed because It was one sided for Trump yet again. Oh how fun for a glitch to appear when convenient. Dispatch techs so they can "fix" the machine while removing prior evidence of tampering.
I sure hope trump has some nice people in NSA that are siphoning it all in. But knowing the swamp runs deep I won't hold my breath on us having it that easy.
yuuuup, i'm 100% confindent that's exactly what happened. This shit is getting really old really fast. How could anyone look at this and think, "yep, everything looks totally honest, fair, and totally not shady at all! wow you guys are crazy conspiracy theorists lmao!!"?!
Could just as easily be the work of some brainlet tripping the fuse on a power bar with a space heater that also happens to run the "portable server".
Doesn't discount all other possible nefarious scenarios at all, but having worked in field IT, "the server crashed" is the layman's phrase for any problem that affects more than one computer.
It's yet one more reason for voting to be paper only. Any system too complicated for all involved to fully understand it is ripe for subterfuge.
Come on even my high school students know how to break the scantron machines barcodes with chapstick. They probably have the same degenerates running the processing of the ballots.
"Meanwhile, in a last-ditch effort, some Republican state lawmakers on Friday drafted a resolution that would declare the results of the 2020 General Election "to be in dispute." It called the certification of results "premature" and urged the governor to withdraw the certification of presidential electors.
The resolution urged the United States Congress "to declare the selection of presidential electors in this Commonwealth to be in dispute."
However, it is impossible for Republicans to advance the resolution, leaders acknowledged Saturday.
The Pennsylvania House of Representatives will not be returning to voting session before the constitutionally mandated end of session on Nov. 30, Rep. Bryan Cutler and House Majority Leader Kerry Benninghoff confirmed in a joint statement.
"We are physically unable to consider any new legislation before the end of session. A simple resolution takes three legislative days for consideration and a concurrent resolution takes five legislative days to move through both chambers, which means we do not have the time needed to address any new resolutions in our current session," the statement said.
But Cutler and Benninghoff, in the statement, pledged that Republican efforts to "investigate the impacts of interventions by the activist Pennsylvania Supreme Court" and "confusing and conflicting guidance by the Secretary of State" will continue into the next legislative session.
"It is obvious Pennsylvania's election processes are in dire need of repair. Our work to ensure the chaos and confusion of the 2020 election are not repeated will continue in the next legislative session," the statement said.
The legislature's maneuvers were met with ridicule from Pennsylvania Lt. Gov. John Fetterman, who called it "nothing but a pitiful, desperate publicity stunt."
He tweeted: "They literally could introduce a resolution calling for a ham sandwich to be our state bird. This isn't going anywhere."
You've gotta be fucking kidding me also if it is a hand recount why would the servers even matter? ( if it's not a hand recount my bad but I could've sworn it was)
hmmm.... how many millions did we pay to use this "system"?
Same with the obamacre website.
I can tell some funny stories about the obamacare website. I know quite a few people that worked on it. There’s a reason it was a disaster.
Edit: Ok, seems I got a little interest so I’ll spill a bit.
It cost billions! And didn’t work.
There’s a few reasons for that.
A shitload of software developers (almost all I would bet) on this project were brand new - they were new graduates, but the companies they were working for made a bunch of fake resumes, and just chucked as many people at it as they could. They were billed at senior developer rates or higher - the prime contracting company took most of the fee and the government just kept throwing money at it.
Here’s a funny one - one of the guys I know did nothing but change the CSS colors. Billed out at probably 150 bucks an hour, for months, to just change a color. Work that could be done in seconds. Now, multiply that a few hundred times and you start to see how big of a racket this was.
So not only was this wasteful and fraudulently billed, but the company that was taking the money wasn’t even American. They had some American subcontractors, but the fact is the majority of the money spent on the project was just shuttled out of the country to foreign business owners.
Looking back on it and knowing what I know now, it was probably some sort of kickback scheme.
Let me guess, diversity employees?
Still waiting to hear how diversity is a positive...
They always use the Olympics as an example. I suppose sports is the one area where different ethnicities have different advantages.
I've never seen the Olympics. I don't watch propaganda.
Not everything has to be politically charged. There are some cool things to watch like the biathlon.
Olympics is based. Nations COMPETE on MERIT and are PROUD of their nation’s ACCOMPLISHMENTS. This was never controversial before.
Same. But because I don't like watching large scale graft and corruption at taxpayer expense.
Youre missing a lot of awesome shit, dude. The only sport related thing i watch is the olympics. Just on eye candy alone you got brazilan pole vaulters, gymnastics ninja bitches, volleyball beach goddesses, then they start shooting shit, high dives and all kindsa stuff...then men fight in all kinds of ways.
No big deal, some people just don't like sports or competition. Me, I've never watched a chess match, car race, fishing, NBA game, golf or poker tournament, episode of Seinfeld or Friends or 24 or CSI or the Office or Sex in the City, etc.
Diversity!? Olympics has NO focus on diversity, Diversity of Olympic competion arenas full of coloured poeple just happened to be a RESULT of NOT doing anything of interference.
Olympics's a Merit 100% world. The 8 fastest sprint Athelete gets chosen for the final date, no questions (except doping and gender irregularities) asked. Though where are the overweight 100m sprinter representation? None right?
2020's "Binders Full of Women" counterpart
BTW fun fact for any who care, all others please disregard, thanks:
Color has no U. The original English ending centuries ago for such words was -or. Then "elites" decided to fancy it up with a bunch of pussy-ass Frenchy spelling affectations, like adding a silent letter (the characteristic fetish of French spelling). Glamour, clamour, colour, endeavour, etc. Adding extra letters for the sake of it, like the pointless double X in "vaxxer" or "doxxing." LOL
That's true. Ironic then that they use the Olympics as a reason for why America performs so well in multiple sports and why we need diversity. Normies don't question it.
You are severely mistaken if you think DIEversity programs don’t exist in the olympics. Most nations have DIEversity programs to even get to that level, IE team USA etc. don’t think for a second they don’t.
If only my username had something like Soros in it, then I could list tons of positives like sowing more tribal divisions in a population.
Nah, they go to taco sheds and shish kebab joints, and act like it's such a great life to travel across the world and serve food up to their white liberal ass on a fancy white plate during Girl's night out.
One of many areas where different races have different advantages. Not the only one.
Seeking diversity and non-diverse groups generally is a bad decision is what I believe you're saying. As in, the best person for the task is whomever has demonstrated the ability to perform the task best. Am I correct?
Oy vey goyum
I knew these refugees were put in place to be against white ppl!
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Meritocracy is what the trannies call it.
Upvoted. You are correct! (Except for the M in whoever. When it's the subject, no M ;)
You may not be a grammar Nazi, but you are at least a grammar Neo-Nazi.
It's definitely a positive when used properly. Forced diversity doesn't work. Organic diversity is how the planet has survived and thrived. There's nothing wrong with learning from other cultures. Trying to tell white people they are evil and force them out of jobs for lesser qualified minorities isn't diversity. Don't get the two confused.
I understand your point about organic diversity, but spell it out for the visiting soy shills.
Alright, here's a good example.
Organic Diversity = Christian Armies of the various states of the Holy Roman Empire, what was left of Hungary, and Poland-Lithuania voluntarily combining under the leadership of King John III of P-L to defeat the Ottoman Turks during the battle of Vienna in 1683. Staying power of heavily armored German knights combined with the agility and speed of the famed winged Hussars of Poland & Hungary. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Vienna
Forced Diversity = The Janissaries on the other side of the same battle.
The soy shills think black people cant get jobs if they’re meritocracy based. Tell me now who’s the racist.
Organic diversity sounds more expensive with decals that are harder to remove.
We should all be equally miserable and diversity can get us there!
I'm told that's rayciss
On a long enough timescale it exposes wasteful government spending
This cactus durdens.
I forgot that one
affirmative discrimination... because when your racist for "good" its ok. probably should be the lefts motto now.
Nope. I checked out the names of people and their LinkedIn profiles back then to see if they were diversity employees. They were not. They were people who had worked on Obama's campaign and had degrees in English, Film Making and so on.
Former W Virginia coal miners
No that's consulting.
Please, go on..
SPILL
Please.
Barron could have done it for a lot less.
A time machine pays for itself!
Billions actually
what? that took billions? wow
Over $5 Billion and Counting for Obamacare Websites - Yahoo Finance, March 2014
how? it was broken when it was first released.
Here's how
All you need is a scantron and a godamned spreadsheet. This is insane
You need a piece of paper and a pencil, and a box to put them in.
They would fuck that up too. Probably outsource the counting to the Philippines.
Actually, just need to hand sort them by precinct and by say Trump/Pence vs evil/commies into two piles and weight them. Don't even need to count most of the time, bc the weight differences are small; and if a batch is nearly equal, that's okay too; bc it's the total weights that matter. if the total is close, then can count. but weighing takes like 1% of the time & money, so doing it first is best.
And to "check" a stack of Trump/Pence or evil/commie mini-piles just play Flip-Book on the ends, and any non-votes or opposite votes stand out quickly. So can check and recheck with different people, VERY quickly by hand.
PS sorting can be by hand easy enough, or can be done by simple machine (like the post office does for envelopes). the quick sort within a precinct into two piles goes Very fast too.
Commie paper weighs more.
I worked in a print shop when I was in college. The bulk weight of paper is actually a method of distinguishing differences in paper stock.
Small detail, like proper color of watermarks.
That wouldn't work well. The difference in paper is small, but with a large amount it could vary a lot. Also, depending on what all was filled out on the ballot, the weight from ink or pencil could change individual ballot weights. Also, if some ballots happened to be fraudulent they could be a different weight, and would throw the weights off even more. Also, considering any damage, dirt, or spills on any ballots could change the weight.
When factoring all the small differences into large piles of ballots, it could vary more than you'd think. There's a trick for checking a scales weight. You throw a bill or a nickel on it. A bill is 1g and a nickel is 5g. You'd think they would be pretty consistent, I've seen them off weight plenty of times.
Most ballots are fairly pristine. Some % will have problems. Each "type" of ballot is generally separated into different piles anyhow (so the weights are about the same for each type.) Unlike coinage in circulation, most ballots haven't been around too long. And in fact it's easier the more there are in a pile; and if really want to get down to it, can like with paper money bundle them in stacks of 100's.
Having worked a Census, including at one of the processing centers that handled 60 million forms in a few months; and having worked many election polls; the weight method gives a good rough quicksort method. Like I said about 1% of the time and cost; so it can be done as a first rough draft, and depending on what the ratios are, lets further counting be done on subsets.
A mobile server is a portable server. It doesn’t have to be connected to the internet if they’re hardwired to it, it just needs data to be stored and is then sent back to Dominion. Physically or through a secure tunnel. Or it’s on an intranet system. Still though, a random crash? I doubt it. Not sure if anyone cares but I study this stuff, so it’s not outlandish to store data like this.
Or instead, and hear me out, we could just count the ballots...
I dunno, I'm just spitballin.
Too old fashioned and harder to manipulate, we gotta try something else.
You mean hand count with a witness and all? Fuck that, typical conservative wanting to take us back to the dark ages.. Don’t you know these machines are fool proof!
Yeah I know. Again I am still against Dominion.
they wouldn't call it a 'server crash' if the local server wasn't working. It had to be over the internet
A crash can be related to anything regarding the server. It doesn’t have to be over the internet. Maybe if they told us the problem, but of course they wont. Intranet servers can crash just as much as internet servers. A server crash is called a server crash for a reason. But if you have experience in this area of study, I am open to correction.
If it legitimately crashed during a recount process when all you're doing is tabulating vote tallies, the software was shit.
Seriously.
This isn't hard to accomplish. Presumably the tabulators take totals and if they're using a remote host to aggregate the results, it shouldn't be that much traffic and it shouldn't crash. Even doing it with an HTTP endpoint that receives the count totals would only be a few tens of thousands of requests.
So, my conclusion is that it's plausible it wasn't a "crash" as much as the server may have stopped responding to requests. Which, again, would mean that they didn't either a) have enough bandwidth to handle the spike in requests or b) the software for whatever reason wasn't able to handle that many concurrent requests.
FWIW it's not that hard to have an application handle a fairly simple series of write requests (say storing figures in a database) to the tune of a couple thousand requests per second. That would almost certainly be more than enough to handle all the precincts in question. Which is why I don't buy this argument either unless the software is total crap. If they needed more capacity, they should be able to afford it.
The reality is there's probably something else going on.
I understand what youre saying. I agree that if it stopped, it would more closely be related to bandwidth or a software problem. I think I am trying to think too hard into it as there it’s like trying to solve a ghost. I was just thinking that the remote host was just on-site in an intranet environment and that from a troubleshooting perspective, bandwidth shouldn’t be the issue. But again it’s all perspective. I was thinking the server flipped out but forgot about the software.
Sorry :( I feel hella uneducated considering I’m studying networking
Basically what I'm saying is that this isn't hard. The fact Dominion is making this hard tells of two potential outcomes:
They're lying.
They're incompetent.
These are not binary options, of course. Both could be true. But the reality is that vote tabulation shouldn't be a difficult problem unless one or both of these conditions happens to be true. I'm leaning more toward #1, because it's almost certainly the case that Dominion is lying about this alleged crash.
I'm a software developer who primarily focuses on backend services, so I have experience with networking, protocols like HTTP, and interfacing with databases. Rest assured that when I say this isn't a hard problem, it's not a hard problem unless they're deliberately trying to cover up for something.
I wrote a post a while back about how the "ideal" voting machine should be developed. We have the technology to do this in a way that would be both auditable and secure. The fact that it's not suggests very strongly that it's a deliberate design to exercise control over the electoral system.
I'll repost my points here (with some modifications) so that readers don't need to click through to another comment. A secure voting machine should tick at least the following boxes:
Any machine used to count should have its software entirely open source. It should be independently audited and should be entirely auditable.
The entire toolchain used to compile that source should produce deterministic output. i.e. it should be possible to validate that input A produces binary B.
The software should be entirely self-contained on a ROM. It should not be possible to modify the tabulator in any way after it has been imaged from the factory. It should also be possible to dump the ROM so that the image can be independently validated to match the requirements of #2.
The machines should have only one external port: Power. No networking. No USB. Concessions could be made for USB or some other header to allow for writing the results to removable storage.
Re-flashing the machine should not be possible.
Any debugging interface (e.g. JTAG) should not have the ability to write values into the machine's RAM.
The final output from the tabulator should use an onboard private key that generates a dump of the final tally. This would produce a specialized hash or encoded value that would then be uploaded to the state office. It could be validated against the public key for that machine (verification; signature generated by the machine's private key) and encrypted using the state's public master key, which would then decrypt the results with its private key.
We could then mandate, by law, that the results be released in their entirety and in a decrypted form. In fact, probably producing a signature + encrypted plain text + signature would be a better option for public validation since the public wouldn't have access to the private keys to decrypt the data. So that way you could validate both the encrypted data and the signature of the plain text.
As much as I hate to say "blockchain" because I think too many people point to it as a panacea, it might be useful to at least distribute the signatures on a blockchain, but I think this is overkill for the purpose.
Ideally, you would have the people running the tabulators only having access to a) reset the current tally and b) upload the final results from the tabulator that cannot be manipulated, because they'll be generated by the machine along with the appropriate signature. Clearly this doesn't obviate other issues such as people running Biden ballots through the machine more than once, but that's an issue with all vote tabulation systems (even manually) that has to be resolved by law.
And I think that last bit could be resolved by mandating that anyone who interferes with the election process, observers, etc., is shot on sight. But alas, one can dream.
I agree, we need more info to know for sure. But it's unlikely a local server is going to go down and no one on-site can fix it before they start reporting the whole recount is "delayed"
Yeah, because they’re probably lying out the ass.
The server crashed boys, guess we are done for the night
Kicks everyone out.
1am hey look, Biden won
'Server crash' seems pretty generic to me, and I have technology degrees.
That was EXACTLY my first thought!!! Servers... they're not even trying anymore to hide their corruption.
... and I expect no one checked the machine/s for bluetooth devices ...
A survey of internal components including motherboard would be a start.
HOLY SHIT MOBILE SERVER!?!?!?!
"Random" water bursts
Software "glitches"
Software changing votes
And it all just so happens to take place at election time. You'd think every 2 years, they'd have all the "bugs" sorted out by election day.
Anyone that doesn't see the blatant fraud is either legally retarded, or is part of the system.
Never underestimate the level of mental retardation of most voting Americans.
It's almost like Trump let them do this to expose them. That why he tweeted out he was looking for the felons with the fake votes, not the missing votes.
Why are so many joggers counting votes ? I don't think minorities should be counting votes
Why not GA state ask for a refund?
I too would like to a full fucking refund. While we're at it, I want my fucking gas tax back, my road tax back and my state tax back because I'm not seeing shit it's used for.
I want the lotto, cigs, weed, and beer taxes back. They say poor people don't even pay taxes but I see them spending a lot of money on things that are mostly tax.
And Iraq and Israel
I don't know any pedes that are pro israrl . i think we should turn the who middle east into glass
Israel is a welfare state that can suck my dirty choad ! Fuck my tax dollars going to them liberal welfare queens
*and not or...I want it all
Just deduct that shit from your taxes . i send my children to private school yet i still am taxed for public schools! I deduct all that shit
Because they got exactly what they wanted... fraudulent machines to help steal the election from Trump. Money well spent in their eyes.
$107M for 33,000 machines in GA, Kemp wrote the check.
Even if this shot wasn’t rigged, and it is, these machines have so many “glitches” they should be banned.
Right? How fucking incompetent can you be? This is literally one of the most basic simple elements of what a computer does... FUCKING COUNT THINGS!!!
And they were programmed to use decimals to count votes instead of integers (whole numbers) lmao you can’t make this shit up
facepalm jesus christ.
face psalm
Can make computers that simulate real complex physics, modeled via top tier graphics chips, yet can’t program a simple vote tally software that keeps count without crashing and causing glitches. Hmmm.
It literally costs more than a spacex rocket.
I bet SpaceX's rockets can't count though.
They're so smart they can countdown.
https://youtu.be/W4AWW91Gc8g
And that all their slooshy bits are still slooshing and not drippy dripping.
For what it's worth, I wrote a fair amount of the code that counts on the rocket. It can count real good. I'm not joking.
It's a feature
Like being able to mark ballots
This is stuff you learn in the first lessons of coding. Anyone who has taken coding knows this shitshow is total bullshit.
When I think of a company like Dominion, I'm imagining they get the bottom of the barrel developer talent. So it doesn't surprise me that their software appears to have been designed by kindergartners.
Keep in mind this is stuff that programmers mastered 40 years+ ago and we are expected to believe that in 2020, it’s normal for software that is used to simply keep a vote tally in the most crucial election in our country crashes and glitches on a regular basis. Ok, boomer.
This election was stolen. Change my mind.
Then they can blame it on their shit programmers . it is designed this way for a reason
Assuming it's incompetence.
Spoiler: it's not.
Why are we relying on computers for voting anyway? Until they perfect the printer, and trust me that's never happening, we should be voting on paper.
This is weather forecaster levels of incompetence xD
Of course it's Fulton fucking county too
Texas knew. The rest of the world knew. And so did the shitbags in these states, because they knew what they could do.
If you buy a lock-picking set, it's for picking locks.
I know you meant to say "shit", but I'm gonna remind everyone that this election is shit.
Ummm...whats with the server? Thought they weren't connected to internet. I bet thier havin problems... if the military took thier server... They are probably using servers in Iran to make it a bit harder to get this time.
Asking the tough questions there.
Dude, you didn’t know that simple vote tally software can’t operate offline? Needs to be connected or else it can’t add numbers. Duh, everybody knows that.
True. I hate when my company Wi-Fi router goes down and my desk calculator stops working.
No kidding, I can’t take my calculator anywhere without a mobile hotspot.
Why do the dominion voting systems have (.irf?) [internet received files] that are able to be loaded into the system from the internet? Per their training video?
I'm going to put aside the fraud and talk about this from a purely practical standpoint.
The reason is cost. Pure and simple. Full stop.
Compared to each individual machine having the hardware necessary to do the work themselves, It is far cheaper to invest in one powerful, huge server that does all the heavy lifting, and leave the actual human interface devices as dumb terminals built using the cheapest parts you can find from the bottom of the Friday Night Special box in a Chinese sweatshop.
The heavy lifting is about as heavy as a #2 pencil.
The hardware needed to do the network is more expensive than the hardware to process a simple scan,tally, and print program.
Just saying, I agree with what you say but you can also have a local server intranet, so, not connected to the Internet. But that’s not what this is, especially since we have documented proof these devices connected to the Internet, to devices in foreign and hostile countries to boot.
intranets turn into internets when you plug in a $20 router or cellular modem
Yeah, they don't quite work the same after the Frankfurt data center was raided and servers seized
Exactly. Why is there a central server involved. Shouldn't the counting machines be disconnected from the internet?
Enough is enough. This is an absolute joke, and a total embarrassment to our country.
Well, what are we gonna do about it? Keep typing away on our computers here?
I want to see you man up and make the news. Go big
I hope we see a lot of "news" soon
A whole wave of it.
Even if 10 millions patriots showed up to peacefully protest in these swing states and DC, it would make zero difference in the outcome. The left just saw 73 million votes cast for Trump, almost 10 million more than 2016. They know he has massive support, they just don't care.
They are murdering the children of judges in daylight. How do we even fight that?
Oh well then, I'm sure everything will be fine. / s
No problem. They will discover a few thousand more votes for Biden...
MARTIAL LAW NOW!
I don't think we need martial law, at least not at this point. We probably need SCOTUS to make one or more rulings that have the effect of taking the final stage of the election out of the electoral college's hands, and putting it into the House's one vote per state protocol.
You need to pull the band-aid and get it over with.
Too many glitches too much partisan judges too much everything.
Servers not responding... cause votes were being tallied and adjusted in Germany
At this point it could be their attempt to reconcile an enormous mismatch.
Don't believe everything you read on TD.win.
Nothing to see here move along 😂
tech support "let me go and bleachbit all the evidence to cover our asses"
Well. Pretty shitty system if it can't act independent of a server.
This is getting beyond ridiculous.
Why? They need to sneak a wipe of the software and replace the software with a version that is clean.
Stacey Abrams and her "machine" in Georgia are a disgrace. She stole that state and she knows she did. Also, Brian Kemp is a gutless piece of garbage.
100% guaranteed they cut a deal with Kemp to let him win in exchange for his complete submission
Kemp will get a big payoff from his new Chinese overlords for his treason.
anytime these rhinos show their true colors, you can gurantee someone (like soros) is lining their pockets.
Nah. She tried to steal the state, but Kemp pushed her out of the way. She was raising a racket complaining about it last year. Kemp brought Dominion in last year, but if you look at his record, he's been accused of election fuckery long before that.
Abrams wishes she has that much power that her "machine" would get that done. She's trying to build to that level, and is doing a piss poor job of it. Kemp is dirtier than her, is all.
Really hoping we see some treason charges.
Gaslighting much?
The concept of ballot box, jury box, ammo box seems hard to understand. Or perhaps you're just looking for a fight.
I'll just remind you that it's not about winning the battle, it's about winning the war.
you never battle a war while winng a ....
huh? hang on, let me get back to ya on that one...
I wouldn't put much trust in 90% of jury's . people are fucking morons and vote feelings over facts
username checks out
But but but .......dominion said they aren’t connected to the internet 🤔
Exactly!!!!!!
I've got rope. How much do you guys have?
We used to have an Old buldozer.. 1950s or so that had a cable wench on the back. We tied it to huge oak stumps and pulled em around to get some dirt off them. Those suckers were skipping over the ground. It would be the perfect tune em up device if it still ran. Tie it to thier legs and have 20-50 just bouncin along the ground. I reccomend some cactus or briar country with lots of rocks. Then untie em for the main event after some further questioning. Their not gonna abide by the damn law... fuck it. Reap what ya sowed commie traitors!!
Free helicopter rides
Fuck dragging them over rocks and shit ..... Drag them over legos!
Hemp rope is the green alternative
Nope, just a bunch of small lead projectiles.
Works for me.
Got a 70 footer, would gladly loan to my fellow Americans!
As long as we know an 80ft rappel.
Could have two 35 footers, lemme know!
Invite sent.
I have some piano wire.
Based sneaky pede
Will network cable suffice? We can execute a manipulation of upvotes over the neckwork.
The e in CAT6e is for executions.
Look, I'm just going to say, those suckers can be tough
So let me get this straight - they are recounting using the same corrupt Dominion system?!
Wtaf. Pedes, listen. We gotta get a handle on this. We need to DO something. Hitting F5 all day is not enough.
Why are not they counting by hand?!?
Because that's honest.
How the hell does it need to be connected to a server to count a binary solution
Because it needs to be able to count fractions as well as wait until the counts are large enough no one will notice a 20,000 slip, and the machines need to coordinate so they don't have a "glitch" simultaneously, duh
Computers couldn’t solve simple arithmetic problems until the advent of the internet. Everybody knows that.
Hello? Armed Georgians? This is your call to action.
Easy to say when you’re not a Georgian.
Hey! Somebody else do something!
Uh, I live where this fuckery isn't happening. This is up to Georgians to hold their State Government responsible. If their electors fraudulently vote for Biden is when the rest of the country steps in since it's national.
AUDIT, NOT RECOUNT
Audit software by VotingWorks in GA is just as corrupt as dominion. Take a look at their website “News” page
audit the ballots. Millions of fake ones.
VotingWorks is owned by Soros, isn't it?
Broken water pipe syndrome
This is fraud. There is no server. The machines are not connected to the internet, and they require a usb drive to transfer results physically to central location. Sieze all machines immediately.
How about you just count the fucking votes?!?! Like... What a concept!
this is how elections should work..... ballots should be the same size as a dollar bill. one ballot for each candidate. after voting, all the ballots for one candidate are put in one pile. one pile for each candidate. all this is witnessed by dems and repubs. then a standard dollar counting machine counts the piles. then recounts the piles. then recounts the piles again.
It crashed because It was one sided for Trump yet again. Oh how fun for a glitch to appear when convenient. Dispatch techs so they can "fix" the machine while removing prior evidence of tampering.
I sure hope trump has some nice people in NSA that are siphoning it all in. But knowing the swamp runs deep I won't hold my breath on us having it that easy.
yuuuup, i'm 100% confindent that's exactly what happened. This shit is getting really old really fast. How could anyone look at this and think, "yep, everything looks totally honest, fair, and totally not shady at all! wow you guys are crazy conspiracy theorists lmao!!"?!
I guess the patch that threw it for Biden can't just be turned off, they need the Dominion shitbags in there to revert the software version.
I hope this is the work of a hacker proving these machines can be hacked.
Could just as easily be the work of some brainlet tripping the fuse on a power bar with a space heater that also happens to run the "portable server".
Doesn't discount all other possible nefarious scenarios at all, but having worked in field IT, "the server crashed" is the layman's phrase for any problem that affects more than one computer.
It's yet one more reason for voting to be paper only. Any system too complicated for all involved to fully understand it is ripe for subterfuge.
Absolutely correct. But I'm still going to hope!
Maybe our NSA.
Is the NSA on our side?
I have no idea. Unfortunately the CIA and FBI have made a complete mess
Why the fuck are we using these fucking machines?? It should be a HAND recount and AUDIT!!! Fuck dominion
because blacks are to stupid to fill out a paper ballot according to the dems
It's True. I work with Shelby County TN (Memphis) Govt Workers, and they are pretty much borderline retarded.
understated truth of the bureaucratic base in that dysfunctional plantation...
Guess it was having issues trying to check in with the now captured Frankfurt server to do the checksum or the "correct" outcome? ;) https://themarshallreport.wordpress.com/2020/11/21/trump-orders-useucom-to-seize-scytl-servers-in-germany/
https://drrichswier.com/2020/11/17/united-states-european-command-conducted-the-operation-to-take-control-of-computer-servers-in-germany/
Could be a cover story like the water main break.
"Could"
Lol ... Water gate
These voting machines are more unstable than windows vista on a bad day
They're running Windows, it'd be suspicious if they didn't crash
Yes, please. Let's have the corrupted Dominion techs come "resolve" the issue. 🙄
Water leaks, server crashed, run out of ink....... This is how much it takes to rig the election? RIP DEMOCRACY!
HORSE....
SHIT!
What happened to the HAND RECOUNT?
Come on even my high school students know how to break the scantron machines barcodes with chapstick. They probably have the same degenerates running the processing of the ballots.
PA and GA must send their electors for Trump. That is the only way to fix this mess.
PA just decided to not do this today.
Source?
https://patch.com/pennsylvania/doylestown/last-ditch-efforts-reverse-pa-election-results-fail
"Meanwhile, in a last-ditch effort, some Republican state lawmakers on Friday drafted a resolution that would declare the results of the 2020 General Election "to be in dispute." It called the certification of results "premature" and urged the governor to withdraw the certification of presidential electors.
The resolution urged the United States Congress "to declare the selection of presidential electors in this Commonwealth to be in dispute."
However, it is impossible for Republicans to advance the resolution, leaders acknowledged Saturday.
The Pennsylvania House of Representatives will not be returning to voting session before the constitutionally mandated end of session on Nov. 30, Rep. Bryan Cutler and House Majority Leader Kerry Benninghoff confirmed in a joint statement.
"We are physically unable to consider any new legislation before the end of session. A simple resolution takes three legislative days for consideration and a concurrent resolution takes five legislative days to move through both chambers, which means we do not have the time needed to address any new resolutions in our current session," the statement said.
But Cutler and Benninghoff, in the statement, pledged that Republican efforts to "investigate the impacts of interventions by the activist Pennsylvania Supreme Court" and "confusing and conflicting guidance by the Secretary of State" will continue into the next legislative session.
"It is obvious Pennsylvania's election processes are in dire need of repair. Our work to ensure the chaos and confusion of the 2020 election are not repeated will continue in the next legislative session," the statement said.
The legislature's maneuvers were met with ridicule from Pennsylvania Lt. Gov. John Fetterman, who called it "nothing but a pitiful, desperate publicity stunt."
He tweeted: "They literally could introduce a resolution calling for a ham sandwich to be our state bird. This isn't going anywhere."
Error 404 Server Not Found!!
Because its protected by ARMED MODA FUCKERS!
Not In Germany!
How is a server “crash” possible on a system not connected to the internet!?
I thought this was supposed to be a hand recount?
Did we ever find out if ALL 900 Military ballots in this county actually went to Biden? (They didn't)
I'm done playing these fucking games.
FUCKING ARREST SOMEONE, OR IT IS WAR!!!!!!!
As a tech, we use technology to make things quick, efficient, accurate, simple, and secure.
The ONLY thing this tech has done is the opposite in every case - and even the most egregious failure could not do this.
Simply said - what you are seeing is by design.
Surely the Chinese had the ballots ready for number matching by now, yes? It's been almost a month.
wait what? why are they using dominion servers for a recount? shouldn't it be a hand recount???
You've gotta be fucking kidding me also if it is a hand recount why would the servers even matter? ( if it's not a hand recount my bad but I could've sworn it was)
we’re there to many Trump ballots being counted that it broke the machines ?
They should be hand couting votes!!!!!!!!
Broken water pipe syndrome
Send in the marines to seize every single dominon machine in the country.
Then do the recount.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL5_3JIA0Uw