I’ve noticed that TheDonald.win is a place with underlying Christian principles, and as a Christian, I appreciate that. I’m asking for insight as to what my fellow Pedes think about Romans 13. Currently, I’ve been struggling with the idea of submitting to governing authorities in light of today’s climate, especially living in a blue state. I truly believe that there have been egregious atrocities committed against our country and our constitution, but am I to disobey the authority placed in my life as ordained by God? I think not, as long as God remains the ultimate authority. But like I said, I’m struggling with this scripture and remain conflicted. At what point is civil disobedience the answer?
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Remember that aa Christian is not under OT law but grace. The Pharisies demonstrated well how obsessing over the law but ignoring it's heart and spirit get you.
America was itself formed on the principal that a christian will exercise civil disobedience against a corrupt government. How corrupt is subjective moving target.
J.C. gives us general advise to obey and pay taxes, but that's way down on hist list. Second is "love they neighbor as thyself" which seems to me a command not to let them suffer under bad governance.
In any case, the Holy Spirit would clearly be the present aspect of the Trinity to consult on such an earthly matter. Pray on it and ask for guidance.
Think on the old adage that all that is needed for evil to triumph is for the good to do nothing. If direct disobedience is not called for see what you can do to improve the situation. If you won all your neighbors over, and they won all their neighbors over, etxc. things would get better.
“Oh, foolish Galatians! Who has cast an evil spell on you? For the meaning of Jesus Christ’s death was made as clear to you as if you had seen a picture of his death on the cross. Let me ask you this one question: Did you receive the Holy Spirit by obeying the law of Moses? Of course not! You received the Spirit because you believed the message you heard about Christ. How foolish can you be? After starting your new lives in the Spirit, why are you now trying to become perfect by your own human effort? Have you experienced so much for nothing? Surely it was not in vain, was it? I ask you again, does God give you the Holy Spirit and work miracles among you because you obey the law? Of course not! It is because you believe the message you heard about Christ.” Galatians 3:1-5 NLT
...Jesus took a whip to the money changers in the temple...You have to punish desecration. That is what this is. In America the gov is of for and by the people...if it is a fraud then it is not a gov...and you better not submit to it under any circumstances.
When the government oversteps it's authority. Read verses 3-4. Government is ordained to praise good and punish evildoers. If it inverts that purpose (i.e. punishes good and rewards evil) it is acting outside of it's authority and may be resisted.