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aparition42 1 point ago +1 / -0

Atkin's troubles started long before any tangential associate with LaVey. You don't think she had troubles when she was being smacked around by her alcoholic parents? Or when her mom died of cancer and her father abandoned her to take care of her brother when she was 15? Or when she was sexually abused by a relative she lived with after her father abandoned her brother and her? She wasn't merely a stripper; she was a prostitute strung out on every sort of drug that was already being used by Manson well before she met LaVey.

Anton LaVey is a classic charlatan of the spiritualist variety. He made it all up for attention and money. He was suckering idiots in with the ultimate counter-culture. He never believed any of it, and he stole it all from lame old TV shows and movies. It's the same vein as the made up "Wicca" beloved by 14 year-old girls who want to irritate their parents. His manufactured satanic symbology is essentially the same thing as the 4Chan trolls' made up White Supremacy secret signs and symbols, except that LaVey did it for cash instead of the LOLs.

Of all the books you've read, I'm rather surprised you've never perused, Child of Satan, Child of God by Susan Atkins herself. Or perhaps you did and merely dismissed all the parts that directly contradict your assertions as Satanic lies. You purport to know the souls of strangers better than they know themselves, and thus deny the admissions of those like Dio who lived through the faux satanism fad of the sixties in favor of after-the-fact writings of ignorant third parties that got their few facts from television stories and made up the rest.

That's the problem with your thought process. REAL proper research requires that you seek to disprove your hypothesis, not merely reinforce it by credulously reading anyone who promises to tickle your ears with words you want to hear while dismissing any evidence to the contrary of your already established belief structure as lies.

You seek out confirmation and there are plenty of people more than willing to take your money and confirm whatever you want. McGowan was an opportunistic grifter who started working on his 9/11 conspiracy writing while the buildings were still smoking. He'd previous enjoyed limited success rehashing the old "we never walked on the moon" stories.

The saddest reality is that all the 60's satanism scare hocus pocus nonsense exists primarily to salve the consciences of those who sat back and let humanist communism spread through their children's generation by implying that there was nothing they could do because they were up against ancient forces and powerful, world controlling secret societies when in reality, it was plain and simple bad parenting that drove their children to revolt against every good thing in life to seek out self-destruction and the ruination of their fellow man.

True evil doesn't need secret societies and hidden hand signs or sigils. In fact, real evil flourishes while good people are distracted by hunting down cryptic symbols, signs, and numbers instead of facing the truth that boring, common issues like neglect, alcoholism, promiscuity, divorce, drugs, and lack of discipline are the real culprits behind the decline of society.

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JimDagent [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Now you're just deflecting away from the argument by simply accusing me of taking part in the across the board denial that you yourself are utterly guilty of committing. The absolute disingenuous gall that bursts forth from people who think like yourself when you promote this "nothing to see here" tripe that you are pushing like a carnival barker's paid shill would be comical if the subject matter we are discussing wasn't so gravely serious.

People like yourself that completely and ignorantly deny the existence of Satanic Secret Societies, who through practice of Satanic magik on an international level, and who have been working in the shadows across the Earth for centuries to bring about a New World Order ruled by the antichrist Satan... is in fact undeniable. At least it's undeniable to good people who actually care about the difference between right and wrong.

You only seem to care about making it appear like you're winning the debate.

In fact these days anybody who does deny this easily verifiable truth is either completely closed off and hiding from this reality through their very own willfully ignorant cowardice, or they're sleeping like a new born pussy cat... or finally... they are most certainly a part of it. Right now between you and I you are the only one who knows where you fall in regards to these three possibilities. My guess is that it's the latter category.

If you are not a part of it by playing your role as this severely low level online bridge troll shill... Or you just stubbornly refuse to believe the centuries worth of solid evidence that is out there for all to see in this so called "information age"...

The fact is... It doesn't matter if you refuse to admit to (yourself or to the outside world) the very real existence of systemic Occult Satanism that has been without question overtly flaunting itself in the face of humanity (arrogantly screaming about it's own existence from the rooftops) for at least twenty years now... as the old saying goes... It doesn't matter if you don't believe in any of it...

The fact is that the so called elite families of this world who have generationally been a part of this major worldwide conspiracy since it's inception, THEY DO BELIEVE IN IT. That is why they negatively effect each and every person on the face of this Earth... regardless of what they believe in or not.

Putting Anton LaVey aside... For anyone to buy into what you're peddling here one would have to foolishly call devout Satanists like (for example) Aleister Crowley, Israel Rigardi, or Michael Aquino, as cranks and hucksters as well. You probably will dismiss them (because that's your gig) but you deny what they have been involved in at your own peril. As in... Be careful of who and what you fight for.

You want people to believe that Dark Occult Fraternal Orders/Satanic Secret Societies like The Cathari, The Albigenses, The Cainite's, The Euchites, The Luciferians, The Knights Templars, Free Masonry, The Ordo Templi Orientis, The Golden Dawn, The Process Church, Skull and Bones, or The Temple of Set, do not exist. That the countless books and other millions of pages of text that (literally for centuries) have been written exclusively on the subject of Satanism and Satanic Magik in theory and in practice mean nothing, and represent fantasy that is of no consequence because it isn't real... You dismiss Satanism as merely a modern day fad that came out of the 1960's. All things considered... while you do show a modicum of intelligence you absolutely have no wisdom to speak of.

It's the way you're approaching this entire subject that actually helps to prove that systemic Satanism most certainly does exist. All anybody would have to do is conduct a simple research study on their own to prove beyond the shadow of any doubt that you are either flat out lying, or you actually have even bigger problems than that. A few simple word search inquiries will expose your position as far far less than honest. I'm starting to wonder if you're even typing this deception of yours with a straight face. You seriously can't be this dim-sighted. Or can you?

Frankly this game you're playing of blind ignorance is remarkably vacuous.

But what is most disgusting about your extremely misleading position is that you have to deny and ignore (across the board) the documented facts about CIA MK Ultra, Satanic Ritual Abuse, Satanic Ritual Murder/Human Ritual Blood Sacrifice, Child and Human Sex Trafficking, and the fact that approximately 800,000 babies and other very young children go missing every year in the United States alone... never to be seen or heard from again in life or in death. Can you say Marc Dutroux? The number of missing children that you forsake and ignore with your constant pathetic denials rockets up into the millions when you count those children who go missing each and every year worldwide.

Yet you are seriously trying to get people to believe that all these documented facts and evidences that point to a massive systemic Satanic conspiracy to destroy human civilization, and in turn bring about a Satanic Communist New World Order for the Ages, (Ordo Ab Chao) really needs to only be chalked up to simple human frailty like... (and I quote) "boring, common issues like neglect, alcoholism, promiscuity, divorce, drugs, and lack of discipline are the real culprits behind the decline of society".

Man... If you believe that noise then you are in fact seriously crazy. Because you fail miserably to acknowledge the hidden hand that relentlessly sets up the perfect conditions that promote and bring out these human frailty's in otherwise innocent people. These Satanic believers practice these evil deeds specifically to lower the moral compass and the social standards of nations filled with well meaning innocent human beings who just don't understand what is being done to them from the darkness of these Satanic Secret Societies...

Satanic psychopaths seek to demoralize innocent people so that humanity can be more easily manipulated and controlled by the gutter hiding cowards that be.

Just look at WW-1 and the Treaty of Versailles which by it's design ushered in the decadence and rapid downward spiral of the Weimar Republic. This took place after the war when sadistic Kabbalistic Talmudic banking gangsters who were financed by The Rothschild (Bauer) International Central Banking Clan ushered in their Usurious Predatory Money Lending Practices. While at the same time promoting pornography and every other form of sick psycho-sexual depravity known to man so's to utterly demoralize the German people into hopeless submission. While at the same time purposely using USURIOUS INTEREST RATES to devalue the Deutche Mark to such record low levels that it would literally take a wheelbarrow full of cash to buy a loaf of bread.

This is exactly what has been happening in the United States. Only it has been happening at a much slower pace. Ever since the illegal and unconstitutional passing of the Federal Reserve Act of 1913. That illegal act performed by a traitorous U.S. Congress turned our legal and Constitutional Monetary System over to a privately held corporation that calls itself the Federal Reserve Bank. This Satanic private corporation inserted an ILLEGAL USURY MONETARY SYSTEM here in America that generated a multi-trillion dollar national debt that by the design of USURY is mathematically impossible for the people of the United States to ever repay.

If you don't believe that The Federal Reserve Bank is a Systemically Satanic Corporation, then explain why they printed Satanic symbols (The Eye of Horace in the capstone of their Illuminati pyramid) ON THEIR OWN ONE DOLLAR FIAT CURRENCY NOTE. Do they invoke Satan just for their own sick entertainment? Do you really believe that they invoke (who you believe is) the "non-existent" prince of darkness for shiites and giggles?

I guess you cannot fathom the danger that is inherent in your denial. You are either a lowly internet shill or you are your own worst enemy.

You obviously don't have the good sense to be ashamed of yourself for having the sterile balls to push your deluded crap in the face of all the documented facts that millions upon millions of good people are becoming keenly aware of as I speak.

Remember... It's more than a little dangerous nowadays for people like you to willingly operate on the wrong side of history the way you are. When it all catches up to you in the end... and it will. I promise you that you are going to think of me and this online exchange. You'll have an eternity to live with the nefarious choices that you have arrogantly made to your own detriment.

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aparition42 1 point ago +1 / -0

I love the way you guys always try to hide your pro-Nazi rhetoric in a wall of text. You just keep repeating the word "Satan" to hide the fact that what you're really talking about is Jews, but eventually it always comes out if anyone lets you ramble on long enough.

The Iranians and Palestinians call everyone they want to kill "Satan" too. It's a great way to trick useful idiots into doing your evil dirty work for you. Anytime someone points out the fact that you've got your basic facts wrong, you simply accuse them of being "Satan" too.

As long as you convince yourself that your opponents are literal pure evil, you collectivist shills can justify being just as evil as the ones you claim to hate in the name of the "greater good". I'm not too worried about being on any "side of history" that's opposite you.

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aparition42 1 point ago +1 / -0

No sense of humor either. Typical. I was making fun of the 4Chan troll claiming the OK sign was a symbol of white supremacy, but irony is clearly beyond you. You'd think someone obsessed with seeing imaginary symbols would cue in to small details a little bit better. The "OK" sign isn't a secret symbol of anything. It's the OK sign.

Now you've skipped past imagining there's secret Satanist imagery everywhere to imagining you have any power over me. You haven't handed me anything other than a long list of boring old conspiracies that have been debunked a thousand times. You're still going on about charlatans like Alastair Crowley decades after he's all but been forgotten by the rest of the world. At least bring your conspiracy game up to date. I get bored easily debunking the same old lies over and over again.

You're not giving anybody "rope". it's an idle conversation on the internet. Nobody cares about it but you. The only thing you've verified is that you've been driven all but insane by pouring a constant stream of poisonous ideology into your brain. It seems like you've never met a specious claim you didn't like.

I'm perfectly comfortable with my relationship with the Almighty, thanks. I think you may want to put down the books written by modern day equivalents of horoscope writers and futurists, and instead reread the words of Jesus himself. Particularly the bits he had to say about judgment.

We are blessed to live in a beautiful world in an amazing time. I honestly feel sorry for people like you that have been taken advantage of by hate-mongers making money selling books about bullshit. You're ruining your own life making yourself miserable and living in fear of an all-powerful world controlling cabal that spans all of history.

If it were true, so what? If they control everything, they are everywhere, and they've had all the power for thousands of years, why would they hide? That's where your type always loses the plot. What exactly do you expect anyone to do about it if you're right? You claim to believe in God, but you act as if God has no power and the "Satanists" have already won.

What's the point of your understanding of God if you don't think God is in control?

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