I hate him because of what he says alone. He honestly thinks Hillary Clinton would have treated him better than Trump and thinks Trump is a con-man. For a guy dumping so much "truth" to the masses, he is as blind as a bat and for that, I have no love for him.
Wrong. He was tasked with exposing these NSA tools by the Brennan CIA. Then, Biden brought about his flight to Russia by ensuring that he could not travel to any other nation. It was an operation ran against our military. If he was really a good guy, why didn't he get the Assange treatment of being falsely imprisoned for decades? No, the traitor snowden has been living well & free in Russia because he was a sanctioned operation...
The activities of the NSA revealed by Snowden were disgusting, but they weren't all that impressive. It was stuff you could use on ordinary citizens, but not as useful on hardened targets like the CIA that would have competent IT security.
The NSA tools were mostly just script kiddy bullshit combined with sufficient resources to do things like mirroring Facebook to perform man-in-the-middle attacks.
It's striking just how unprofessional these guys were when you go through the Snowden docs.
'All three letter agencies are compromised.' Agreed.
'If the NSA had this capability and was at odds with the CIA, why wouldn’t they have used it to take down all those within the CIA?'
The NSA was monitoring their (globalist) communications leading up to the Iran deal - snowden was tasked with infiltrating, centralizing, & leaking the tools used by the NSA to inhibit the NSA"s ability to continue monitoring.
'Obama administration used NSA for various illegal actions.' Obama used everything at his disposal for various illegal actions.
He isn’t suspect at all. I’m a pede. I have known him for a looooooong time and he is a diehard libertarian. He has not ever and will not ever sold out our country for personal gain.
The NSA that supposedly spies on us is the same NSA that is gonna save you from the globalist elitist satanic pedophile cabal thank the deep state. You're welcome
Because he swore an oath and is a traitor? Because he was full of himself and played this martyr game to get famous? Because he was actually a piece of shit who was himself spying on people when he found out how much info was actually (illegally) available to him? Because he could have reported the breach legally, but he would have had to go to jail for the illegal shit he did that allowed him to stumble onto it in the first place?
I don't know why people make excuses for this traitor, but I'll assume it's due to ignorance.
Yeah, you clearly don't know a damn thing about what he did. Pro-tip: if you think a Hollywood movie told you the whole story, you're dumber than you soud.
I didn't watch a movie. I read the documents be released. Power points of the NSA's own training materials and documentation for their tools and how they use them.
You are 100% dead wrong about this. He was a programmer/cyber security specialist. He had absolutely nothing to do with analyzing the data. He was not a field agent and didn’t work the back end to help take down, arrest or stop anybody for any reason at all.
Ed sat at a desk. Ed had access to the programs because he helped keep them secure. That’s it.
Your fantastical delusions about espionage are part of a disinformation campaign from the same people who tried to take down GEOTUS. Why in the flying hell would you trust these people for any reason and about anything?
You guys forget that at the end of the day, no matter how crazy a person’s life is, there are people out there who have known them for a long time and can vouch for them. Ed is married to one of my best friends.
can't believe I believed fake news about snowden being a traitor back then. I was like "man what a scumbag he leaked government secrets" but now its like "wow these scumbags tried to kill this guy for warning us about their treason"
You're falling for the fake news now... Snowden has been propped up as a hero in MSM, to the point of having heroic mocumentaries made about him... He was a traitor & it's sad that you don't realize this.
Sure thing it's possible, though you being snowden's wife's best friend is also possibly fake news. I know that i trust my research more than your questionable assertion of subject authority.
I share some of the concerns re. Edward Snowden as many as the people posting in here... however, I've never seen so much collective animus for Snowden on this site in the past... never.
Maybe it is just that less people are ignorant of snowden's true mission & are helping fellow pedes to see the light.
I've never seen such a collective preening for a spook on this site... never.
Take that for whatever it's worth.
As a data analyst, Snowden's release was the biggest thing of my lifetime. He exposed just how advanced our data capturing capabilities are and it blew everyone out of the water. He deserves it, because he'd have been executed otherwise by the Obama administration. He has never come across as a spook to me - just a guy who saw too much and said fuck it, I gotta do the right thing. Watch the Greenwald/Snowden documentary where they show his live reactions. Every time the phone rang,he thought he was gonna die.
I remember watching a documentary where Snowden said he tried many times in many places to tell the government about the spying on US citizens but he was ignored or threatened. Later in that documentary, one of his superiors said that Snowden was a product of his agency not being "compartmentalized" enough. In other words, do bad things with lots of people that do very little, that each person doing is not wrong in itself and they won't know what their little contribution is to the bigger picture of the crime.
In other words, do bad things with lots of people that do very little, that each person doing is not wrong in itself and they won't know what their little contribution is to the bigger picture of the crime
This is exactly what happened in the Ministry of Truth in Orwell's 1984.
Reminds me of the movie Cube and what Holloway said (if you've seen it): "keep everyone separated so that the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing, the brain never comes out in the open". Snowden saw enough of the big picture and said enough was enough. Whether or not anyone else did is irrelevant, or even how many people knew in the first place, all that matters is that the info was made public.
He infiltrated the NSA at the behest of the CIA in order to keep Obummer & his traitorous ilk from being surveiled while they sold out our republic. He deserves nothing beyond a swift ticket to meet his maker.
He had no need to pardon him - snowden has, supposedly, been living well in Russia. How would the optics of that pardon played out, especially as the 'russia hoax' was being geared up? What benefit would have been gained from that pardon?
Glows and glows big time. He didnt drop that shit to be a whistle blower. He leaked it to hurt the NSA. Everything that comes out of that cucks mouth is leftist liberal dogshit.
Snowden is C_A that tried to get the NSA dismantled so they could get away with what we are exposing right now! wah if the democrats are siding with Snowden yet want assange and Flynn prosecution then it isn't rocket science. He works with Jack Dorsey and cuckerberg regularly to censor and stifle you to this day and you don't even know it!!!
Snowden is a CIA Spook who's roll was to start a war between alphabet agencies. He wasn't a whistleblower because he didn't have first hand knowledge of the info, he just stole it and released all of it. When asked about much if it, he didn't even know most of what he had, he just released it for maximum damage, then fled to Russia.
Assange deserves honorary US Citizenship along with his family. I can't believe they even have the ability to do this to someone.
If you look at the flights available to him, his landing in Russia was not accidental & Biden forcing every other door closed except for Russia was also not an accident...
Edit: Keep up to downvotes, shills, as that really proves my claim inaccurate... #overthetarget
Snowden and Assange are both products of the first few days of the internet back when the internet was truly free and uncensored. A whole generation of young libertarian hackers come from that subculture.
While I won't be making the case for snowden being a traitor here, as we are all old enough to research, you claiming 'bs' sans logical reasoning with evidence = worthless shilling...
What book was this?
I could say I read comey's book, who tf would trust it or care?
& Joe Rogan? May/may not be a good dude. Just because he interviewed snowden & snowden said he wasnt a traitor, that's enough for you?
Sad.
Thanks for the downvote shills - badge of honor earned as I'm over the target.
Yep he left the CIA and had nothing but good things to say about those clowns. NSA was being used to spy on the black hats, so Snowden did the leak to help take pressure off the traitors being spied on.
I don't think anyone on this site has the slightest clue what kind of spycraft is really going on behind the scenes, let's be honest.
I just go based on what the alphabet agencies do (and don't do) ... and based on those observations, I'd say the vast majority of all of the agencies are compromised, hate Trump, love globalism, and just watch their own backs.
what the hell is pardoning snowden gonna do for us.. does he have something on obama? even if he did.. they're not gonna prosecute a president (says Rush).. So what's the aim.. get someone in the deep state? I don't get it
As for Assange I thought he was being tried overseas or something
"What does a pardon do for us" is not the question to be asking here. The question is, has Snowden been wronged by the Federal government in that he has been stranded in Russia and would otherwise have been hunted down (and likely killed)?
IMO, the answer to that question is yes, given that what he did was for the benefit of all US citizens. Namely, he showed us proof that our own government was spying on us in ways, and in scales, never before thought possible. For example, the govt is tracking every one of our phone calls - "but just the metadata!" (Nevermind that "metadata" is extremely broad and literally just means descriptive data.. descriptive of what? You could argue for example that a recorded phone call is "metadata" of a conversation... "just metadata" is bullshit).
Do you not think this was for the greater good that we all know of this? That other information was also leaked was inevitable given the breadth of all the criminal activity (within our own Fed) he was showing us.
If the demon rats support Snowden yet don't support assange then you should think more about why??? Everyone they say is good is really bad and vice verse. Snowden is a snake!! His motivations were ill intent
are you implying there is nothing we can agree on with our fellow citizens who vote democrat?
If you are, I disagree with that sentiment- i think they're crazy nonetheless (after all the DNC stands for nothing but that which gains them power in the short term), but we have lots of common ground. MSM and Uniparty just won't let us see it.
However, I'll gladly sit down and have a drink with a democrat (note, I'm not referring to elected Democrat Party members) to celebrate Snowden bringing an extremely important conversation to the forefront of American discourse.
'The question is, has Snowden been wronged by the Federal government in that he has been stranded in Russia and would otherwise have been hunted down (and likely killed)?'
He's in Russia because of Biden. Snowden was a CIA operative tasked with infiltrating & exposing NSA tools to enable obummer & his treasonous gang to avoid detection. There is a reason this all went down right around the iran deal...
Snowden exposed to all citizens of the United States (and yes, the world- that was inevitable) that their own government was spying on them, in complete secrecy, in ways and scales that were never before thought possible. Literally every phone call being tracked. "But it was just the metadata" was the only rebuttal the Fed could give.
How is this not patriotic? Would you prefer to live in ignorance?
He also helped the CIA & the corrupt regime under obummer avoid detection whilst they were crafting their Iran deal by exposing the NSA sigint tools unknown to those being surveiled. He also revealed tools that were used internationally & let loose to our 'allies' that they were being spied on which gave us a black eye & removed our collection capability.
A couple of users in the thread are shilling pretty hard for snowden - I wonder why?
A collection capability which should have been made public from day 1 and has otherwise been used in surveillance of the entire US citizenry. That collection capability has been rightfully exposed, should be made legally impossible, and should be completely dismantled and destroyed.
Finally what is all this CIA talk? Do you have proof of this "at the behest of the CIA" stuff? Proof that he was acting on orders? lots of disinformation in this thread... "I wonder why?"
Another user posted a link to snowden's CIA service record - if you had intellectual curiosity vs trying to keep people on the plantation, you would have looked it up yourself & not bothered to ask for it to be posted again. Where is your 'proof' that he was not acting at the behest of the CIA? Once a CIA agent, always a CIA agent, & snowden was/is a CIA agent... You & 'blacksunfun1' have an inexplicable fancy for defending snowden's honor...
"prove that snowden didn't act on behalf of the CIA"
Edward Snowden, like all of us, is innocent until proven guilty- of all assertions, including your own.
my time is special (as should everyone's be) - you want me to look at a service record? link it yourself- you are, after all, the one making the argument here. otherwise, you haven't countered my argument, you're making someone else do your legwork.
further, simply stating that someone "worked for the CIA" is not in and of itself an assertion that someone acted on behalf of the CIA when they went rogue against the government itself.
'you are, after all, the one making the argument here.'
I'd argue that we are both making an assertion - mine is that snowden is not trustworthy & yours is that he is trustworthy. Use some of your 'precious time' to perform your due diligence - I've done mine & arrived at my conclusion. Nothing I say will change your mind, the only one capable of doing that is you.
proof of "at the behest of the CIA"? proof that he was actually acting under direct orders to expose this biggest mass domestic surveillance crime our government has ever committed?
so much disinformation in this thread. if you can't prove that claim, you're fake news
So you want someone to post the (likely illegal) order given by the CIA which directed snowden to infiltrate the NSA & without that you cry 'fake news!'... Do you really expect someone to have that smoking gun? Preposterous ask & you know it. Those who have eyes to see & a brain to think can review all of the available evidence & draw their own conclusions. You are not even willing to give it a thought, because you're nothing but a shill, imho. If you're not, then you should really try & do some objective due diligence regarding snowden - those who have are not parroting your narrative...
I hate him because of what he says alone. He honestly thinks Hillary Clinton would have treated him better than Trump and thinks Trump is a con-man. For a guy dumping so much "truth" to the masses, he is as blind as a bat and for that, I have no love for him.
Anyone in the IC community knows exactly why what he did was treason and why the civilians fawning over him are ignorant.
Wrong. He was tasked with exposing these NSA tools by the Brennan CIA. Then, Biden brought about his flight to Russia by ensuring that he could not travel to any other nation. It was an operation ran against our military. If he was really a good guy, why didn't he get the Assange treatment of being falsely imprisoned for decades? No, the traitor snowden has been living well & free in Russia because he was a sanctioned operation...
The activities of the NSA revealed by Snowden were disgusting, but they weren't all that impressive. It was stuff you could use on ordinary citizens, but not as useful on hardened targets like the CIA that would have competent IT security.
The NSA tools were mostly just script kiddy bullshit combined with sufficient resources to do things like mirroring Facebook to perform man-in-the-middle attacks.
It's striking just how unprofessional these guys were when you go through the Snowden docs.
'All three letter agencies are compromised.' Agreed. 'If the NSA had this capability and was at odds with the CIA, why wouldn’t they have used it to take down all those within the CIA?' The NSA was monitoring their (globalist) communications leading up to the Iran deal - snowden was tasked with infiltrating, centralizing, & leaking the tools used by the NSA to inhibit the NSA"s ability to continue monitoring. 'Obama administration used NSA for various illegal actions.' Obama used everything at his disposal for various illegal actions.
He isn’t suspect at all. I’m a pede. I have known him for a looooooong time and he is a diehard libertarian. He has not ever and will not ever sold out our country for personal gain.
The NSA that supposedly spies on us is the same NSA that is gonna save you from the globalist elitist satanic pedophile cabal thank the deep state. You're welcome
Because he swore an oath and is a traitor? Because he was full of himself and played this martyr game to get famous? Because he was actually a piece of shit who was himself spying on people when he found out how much info was actually (illegally) available to him? Because he could have reported the breach legally, but he would have had to go to jail for the illegal shit he did that allowed him to stumble onto it in the first place?
I don't know why people make excuses for this traitor, but I'll assume it's due to ignorance.
Why would the CIA "out" the NSA when they do the same shit and the spotlight got put on them as well.
A guy betrayed his oath to the deep state and sided with the American people, and he broke the law to do so.
Oh the humanity.
Yeah, you clearly don't know a damn thing about what he did. Pro-tip: if you think a Hollywood movie told you the whole story, you're dumber than you soud.
I didn't watch a movie. I read the documents be released. Power points of the NSA's own training materials and documentation for their tools and how they use them.
Based on those: Fuck the NSA.
So you don't know a damn thing about Snowden. Got it.
So wrong. He was Brennan CIA working against US MIL NSA which was targeting obummer & crew during the iran deal...
In hindsight, you'll see that what he did was at the behest of the blackhats to undermine the whitehats...
You are 100% dead wrong about this. He was a programmer/cyber security specialist. He had absolutely nothing to do with analyzing the data. He was not a field agent and didn’t work the back end to help take down, arrest or stop anybody for any reason at all.
Ed sat at a desk. Ed had access to the programs because he helped keep them secure. That’s it.
Your fantastical delusions about espionage are part of a disinformation campaign from the same people who tried to take down GEOTUS. Why in the flying hell would you trust these people for any reason and about anything?
You guys forget that at the end of the day, no matter how crazy a person’s life is, there are people out there who have known them for a long time and can vouch for them. Ed is married to one of my best friends.
can't believe I believed fake news about snowden being a traitor back then. I was like "man what a scumbag he leaked government secrets" but now its like "wow these scumbags tried to kill this guy for warning us about their treason"
You're falling for the fake news now... Snowden has been propped up as a hero in MSM, to the point of having heroic mocumentaries made about him... He was a traitor & it's sad that you don't realize this.
You’re the only one falling for fake news.
Sure thing it's possible, though you being snowden's wife's best friend is also possibly fake news. I know that i trust my research more than your questionable assertion of subject authority.
I share some of the concerns re. Edward Snowden as many as the people posting in here... however, I've never seen so much collective animus for Snowden on this site in the past... never.
Take that for whatever it's worth.
Maybe it is just that less people are ignorant of snowden's true mission & are helping fellow pedes to see the light. I've never seen such a collective preening for a spook on this site... never. Take that for whatever it's worth.
Great post 👍
Wow, this is the most divided comment section I've seen on this site
Interesting, eh? Downvote brigade looking out for snowden...
Fuck Snowden. That dude glows.
As a data analyst, Snowden's release was the biggest thing of my lifetime. He exposed just how advanced our data capturing capabilities are and it blew everyone out of the water. He deserves it, because he'd have been executed otherwise by the Obama administration. He has never come across as a spook to me - just a guy who saw too much and said fuck it, I gotta do the right thing. Watch the Greenwald/Snowden documentary where they show his live reactions. Every time the phone rang,he thought he was gonna die.
I remember watching a documentary where Snowden said he tried many times in many places to tell the government about the spying on US citizens but he was ignored or threatened. Later in that documentary, one of his superiors said that Snowden was a product of his agency not being "compartmentalized" enough. In other words, do bad things with lots of people that do very little, that each person doing is not wrong in itself and they won't know what their little contribution is to the bigger picture of the crime.
This is exactly what happened in the Ministry of Truth in Orwell's 1984.
Reminds me of the movie Cube and what Holloway said (if you've seen it): "keep everyone separated so that the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing, the brain never comes out in the open". Snowden saw enough of the big picture and said enough was enough. Whether or not anyone else did is irrelevant, or even how many people knew in the first place, all that matters is that the info was made public.
He infiltrated the NSA at the behest of the CIA in order to keep Obummer & his traitorous ilk from being surveiled while they sold out our republic. He deserves nothing beyond a swift ticket to meet his maker.
You have any actual evidence of that? Honest question.
If that were true, why wouldn't Obama have pardoned him along with the other 1,000's he pardoned at the end of his two terms?
Plausible deniability, perhaps?
I don't know, but I've heard conflicting information about Snowden from many sources.
He had no need to pardon him - snowden has, supposedly, been living well in Russia. How would the optics of that pardon played out, especially as the 'russia hoax' was being geared up? What benefit would have been gained from that pardon?
Glows and glows big time. He didnt drop that shit to be a whistle blower. He leaked it to hurt the NSA. Everything that comes out of that cucks mouth is leftist liberal dogshit.
Precisely.
Snowden is C_A that tried to get the NSA dismantled so they could get away with what we are exposing right now! wah if the democrats are siding with Snowden yet want assange and Flynn prosecution then it isn't rocket science. He works with Jack Dorsey and cuckerberg regularly to censor and stifle you to this day and you don't even know it!!!
Don’t forget Ross Ulbrict
Barr hates Snowden, and for some reason, Trump deeply respects Barr despite him doing literally nothing.
And the people that hate Barr love snowden...
Snowden is C_A, he did what he did to HURT NSA (military intelligence), the only thing standing in the C_A's way.
He is a traitor same as Brennan
Snowden is a CIA Spook who's roll was to start a war between alphabet agencies. He wasn't a whistleblower because he didn't have first hand knowledge of the info, he just stole it and released all of it. When asked about much if it, he didn't even know most of what he had, he just released it for maximum damage, then fled to Russia.
Assange deserves honorary US Citizenship along with his family. I can't believe they even have the ability to do this to someone.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Snowden
Hmm I wonder if the CIA did the same thing they did to the media with people like Anderson Vanderbilt Cooper?
The only reason current (you're in for life) employees of the CIA would start working anywhere else is for an operation.
that wasn't his first choice but the US revoked is passport in Hong Kong leaving him with limited options iirc. I believe he wanted to get to Ecuador.
If you look at the flights available to him, his landing in Russia was not accidental & Biden forcing every other door closed except for Russia was also not an accident...
Edit: Keep up to downvotes, shills, as that really proves my claim inaccurate... #overthetarget
Isn't Snowden a CIA op to damage NSA? Or nah
Snowden and Assange are both products of the first few days of the internet back when the internet was truly free and uncensored. A whole generation of young libertarian hackers come from that subculture.
if what he leaked exposed government corruption and violations of american rights, then who gives a fuck about the nsa.
That's news to me but it seems suspicious.
While I won't be making the case for snowden being a traitor here, as we are all old enough to research, you claiming 'bs' sans logical reasoning with evidence = worthless shilling...
What book was this? I could say I read comey's book, who tf would trust it or care? & Joe Rogan? May/may not be a good dude. Just because he interviewed snowden & snowden said he wasnt a traitor, that's enough for you? Sad.
Thanks for the downvote shills - badge of honor earned as I'm over the target.
Yep he left the CIA and had nothing but good things to say about those clowns. NSA was being used to spy on the black hats, so Snowden did the leak to help take pressure off the traitors being spied on.
I don't think anyone on this site has the slightest clue what kind of spycraft is really going on behind the scenes, let's be honest.
I just go based on what the alphabet agencies do (and don't do) ... and based on those observations, I'd say the vast majority of all of the agencies are compromised, hate Trump, love globalism, and just watch their own backs.
Not Snowden.
Snowden is a shitlib traitor that fled to Russia.
Fuck Snowden.
what the hell is pardoning snowden gonna do for us.. does he have something on obama? even if he did.. they're not gonna prosecute a president (says Rush).. So what's the aim.. get someone in the deep state? I don't get it
As for Assange I thought he was being tried overseas or something
"What does a pardon do for us" is not the question to be asking here. The question is, has Snowden been wronged by the Federal government in that he has been stranded in Russia and would otherwise have been hunted down (and likely killed)?
IMO, the answer to that question is yes, given that what he did was for the benefit of all US citizens. Namely, he showed us proof that our own government was spying on us in ways, and in scales, never before thought possible. For example, the govt is tracking every one of our phone calls - "but just the metadata!" (Nevermind that "metadata" is extremely broad and literally just means descriptive data.. descriptive of what? You could argue for example that a recorded phone call is "metadata" of a conversation... "just metadata" is bullshit).
Do you not think this was for the greater good that we all know of this? That other information was also leaked was inevitable given the breadth of all the criminal activity (within our own Fed) he was showing us.
Would you rather live in ignorance?
If the demon rats support Snowden yet don't support assange then you should think more about why??? Everyone they say is good is really bad and vice verse. Snowden is a snake!! His motivations were ill intent
are you implying there is nothing we can agree on with our fellow citizens who vote democrat?
If you are, I disagree with that sentiment- i think they're crazy nonetheless (after all the DNC stands for nothing but that which gains them power in the short term), but we have lots of common ground. MSM and Uniparty just won't let us see it.
However, I'll gladly sit down and have a drink with a democrat (note, I'm not referring to elected Democrat Party members) to celebrate Snowden bringing an extremely important conversation to the forefront of American discourse.
I think you conflated his point unnecessarily in order to make your own...
'The question is, has Snowden been wronged by the Federal government in that he has been stranded in Russia and would otherwise have been hunted down (and likely killed)?'
He's in Russia because of Biden. Snowden was a CIA operative tasked with infiltrating & exposing NSA tools to enable obummer & his treasonous gang to avoid detection. There is a reason this all went down right around the iran deal...
What is the motivation of Biden wanting him in Russia if he was working to their benefit?
Snowden? Lmao. He's a traitor, meme needs to be revised.
Assange yes. Snowden no. Nothing Patriotic about what Snowden did.
Snowden exposed to all citizens of the United States (and yes, the world- that was inevitable) that their own government was spying on them, in complete secrecy, in ways and scales that were never before thought possible. Literally every phone call being tracked. "But it was just the metadata" was the only rebuttal the Fed could give.
How is this not patriotic? Would you prefer to live in ignorance?
He also helped the CIA & the corrupt regime under obummer avoid detection whilst they were crafting their Iran deal by exposing the NSA sigint tools unknown to those being surveiled. He also revealed tools that were used internationally & let loose to our 'allies' that they were being spied on which gave us a black eye & removed our collection capability.
A couple of users in the thread are shilling pretty hard for snowden - I wonder why?
A collection capability which should have been made public from day 1 and has otherwise been used in surveillance of the entire US citizenry. That collection capability has been rightfully exposed, should be made legally impossible, and should be completely dismantled and destroyed.
Finally what is all this CIA talk? Do you have proof of this "at the behest of the CIA" stuff? Proof that he was acting on orders? lots of disinformation in this thread... "I wonder why?"
Another user posted a link to snowden's CIA service record - if you had intellectual curiosity vs trying to keep people on the plantation, you would have looked it up yourself & not bothered to ask for it to be posted again. Where is your 'proof' that he was not acting at the behest of the CIA? Once a CIA agent, always a CIA agent, & snowden was/is a CIA agent... You & 'blacksunfun1' have an inexplicable fancy for defending snowden's honor...
"prove that trump didn't collude w/ russia"
is the same type of argument as
"prove that snowden didn't act on behalf of the CIA"
Edward Snowden, like all of us, is innocent until proven guilty- of all assertions, including your own.
my time is special (as should everyone's be) - you want me to look at a service record? link it yourself- you are, after all, the one making the argument here. otherwise, you haven't countered my argument, you're making someone else do your legwork.
further, simply stating that someone "worked for the CIA" is not in and of itself an assertion that someone acted on behalf of the CIA when they went rogue against the government itself.
'you are, after all, the one making the argument here.'
I'd argue that we are both making an assertion - mine is that snowden is not trustworthy & yours is that he is trustworthy. Use some of your 'precious time' to perform your due diligence - I've done mine & arrived at my conclusion. Nothing I say will change your mind, the only one capable of doing that is you.
Because he did it at the behest of Brennan CIA under obummer to blind the NSA who was monitoring the nefarious actions of the traitorous regime.
Everyone supporting snowden is either uninformed or a shill...
proof of "at the behest of the CIA"? proof that he was actually acting under direct orders to expose this biggest mass domestic surveillance crime our government has ever committed?
so much disinformation in this thread. if you can't prove that claim, you're fake news
So you want someone to post the (likely illegal) order given by the CIA which directed snowden to infiltrate the NSA & without that you cry 'fake news!'... Do you really expect someone to have that smoking gun? Preposterous ask & you know it. Those who have eyes to see & a brain to think can review all of the available evidence & draw their own conclusions. You are not even willing to give it a thought, because you're nothing but a shill, imho. If you're not, then you should really try & do some objective due diligence regarding snowden - those who have are not parroting your narrative...