What's the point of having anything if you don't have freedom. Are you to the point of filling your belly with dirt to stop the hunger pangs? If not be thankful for not living in the Communist utopia Democrats are fighting to bring to America.
very much so, but strangely they believe they are free. They also believe they are not conforming. Must be all that LSD. Don’t think it’s the weed cos I smoke like a trooper and have an intense hatred of anything related to Karl Marx. He was the ultimate soy boy.
Why would I give up my job right now when there is no one else out their fighting? There are plenty of people out of work who argue they are on our side, so they have time and ability to fight, where are they? If they start it, I will join it. But I am not going to be starting it.
First things first. Use all legal means to stop the steal. Only when those avenues are exhausted will there ever be a legitimate reason to turn towards violent measures.
Are we there yet? As far as I know, we will not be there until the congress certifies the electoral college.
The revolutionary war was fought with 2% of the population at any given time. With total war period constituting a grand total of 6% of the population.
Most people are not invested in these things. The left is not going to get a massive assist from people. The most you will get out of a leftist is their reaction to not getting their welfare check.
So, if we can start with just 5%, we will win overwhelmingly in short order absent the Military taking sides.
That's what I have been saying. There is always something to hide behind, whether it be a job, house, or family. People act like next time it will be different, and then it plays out just the same.
I hope you have people to hold you to that. I heard the same thing when mask mandates came out where I live. But when time actually came, all but two backed down.
With work from home formalized, the way is paved for the tech cartels to open pool to the globe. Trim highly paid W2's. If you no longer have to employ in high cost of living centers, why not employ remote talent from across the globe in much cheaper areas?
When that kicks in is when white collar will be shoulder to shoulder with blue collar to make a change.
However, from my PoV, I've seen what the talent pool looks like overseas, and it's a total crapshoot.
They tried offshoring full-on 10 years ago, and wound up on-shoring for anything more complicated than IT help-desk scripted stuff.
There is good talent to be had overseas (I promise, I know quite a few, and many of them report to me), but as they learned then, and many are learning the hard way now, for every one competent code-monkey or sysadmin living in Pune, Prague, or Shanghai? There are 10,000 fucking incompetents who have to be told every little thing, have to have their work cleaned-up at great expense in time and effort, and in general lied their asses off to get the job. The ratio in the US is much, much nicer - only 1-in-20 or so, and most of the incompetents here can be weeded out quickly enough.
There is no point needlessly throwing away your job especially in these times, especially if you a family to feed. Being on welfare is no joke. I wear at mask at work because it’s just another one of their dumb policies.. just because I wear the mask does not mean I am a sheep and it does not mean I believe covid is dangerous. If they tried to forcibly vaccinate me I would quit but quitting over having to wear a mask is just stupid.
I refused to return to my job because it required a mask. My favorite job ever. I started working painting again, something I really don't love to do but, it pays decent, and there's no mask.
LOL actually I probably should have been wearing a job at one of the recent jobs. Super old house being refurbished, with tons of dusty old soot in the air from the construction crews. But I still didn't wear one, LOL, but in my defense none of us did.
Are you going to ask in the job interview if you have to wear a a mask at your new place of employment. Maybe tell the company that you will only work for them if you don’t have to wear a mask.That will go down really well in the interview. Good luck with that.
Look for another job? Seriously? That’s your advice? Next you will be telling people to code. It is more likely that you will end up on welfare for a long time before you get anything and what will that achieve. it will just make you poorer.
I would advise people to pick their battles wisely and not be stupid and fight battles that will only end up hurting themselves. Do you think your employer would give a shit if you quit. He will just hire someone else. You will only end up hurting yourself and your family. That is really bad advice. What happens when you quit your job with a good salary then get another job that pays way less and they turn around and ask you to wear a mask at work.
Yes. I have just made a correction before I saw your reply. What happens when you quit your job that pays well and you get a shitty job and then they turn around and tell you that you have to wear a mask. Will you look for another job that is even worse again. Don’t advise people to do things that you would not do yourself.
people want the system to handle it. I get it though because revolution is a one way street you dont go down there unless you have zero possibility of this getting sorted out legally. keep your guns close, and keep an eye out
I talk to the customers and can obviously tell which ones think this whole thing is bs. I reassure them, they are not alone in the views and more people are getting fed up with the over reach of power by the government.
Sharing this idea and belief can't be taken away.
That is me doing my part in this, I wear a mask at work because its not that big of a deal to me. But once they demand vaccines, I'll ride that out for as long as I can without getting one. I'll fake documents if I have to, or quit, or they will fire me.
Hard disagree. Companies risk fines and shutdowns over this sort of thing, and it's not fair as someone who doesn't own a business to tell a business that they suck because they won't face the government on the issue.
I also think the mask battle isn't the one truly worth fighting at this time. There will be an opportunity to sort this out in the future, but for the time being election fraud, forced vaccination, and the high level components of Agenda 21/2030 are the priorities.
So that justifies them acting as the foot soldiers of the deep state. That's like saying "you can't kill the enemy soldiers that invaded your country because they were drafted.
it's not fair
Is getting threatened/coerced into wearing a mask fair? Having a landslide election blatantly stolen? How about being denied essential services because you can't prove you were "vaccinated"? Pigs being sent to kidnap you for not being vaccinated? I get reminded all the time that life's not fair whenever I'm the one getting the short stick, so excuse me if I don't care about fairness anymore.
tell a business that they suck
If they act as the soldiers of the deep state, then they deserve a lot more than just being told that. I guess that depends on what your definition of "talking" includes though.
they won't face the government on the issue
If they have aligned themselves with my enemy, then they have no right to complain when I face them as enemies.
I also think the mask battle isn't the one truly worth fighting at this time.
I think it is. And it has been ever since it started, because it is the first step of something far worse. But not the hill to die on, amirite?
There will be an opportunity to sort this out in the future
Every single day they are worn they become harder and harder to get rid of as they become more normalized. People are fortunately starting to tire of wearing masks (at least in my area), so it is imperative that we pushback against them now.
but for the time being election fraud
Very few of us are so involved in fighting election fraud that we can't also pushback against masks.
forced vaccination, and the high level components of Agenda 21/2030 are the priorities.
And what is the first stage of getting people to accept (possibly even demand) forced "vaccinations"? It's by getting them to first accept masks. As for the high level components of Agenda 2030, nothing is a higher priority to them than vaccinating (read chipping) every single person on the planet. By stopping masks you are also stopping everything that comes after them, and by accepting them you are also opening the door to everything that comes after.
Slam the door shut on masks before forced vaccinations come through it and quit telling me it's not the hill to fight and/or die on.
Another thought, and devil's advocate time from an old fuck:
It was once said that "...a coward is a hero with a wife, kids, and a mortgage."
I have the luxury of working a job where I WFH all the time, and live rural so I don't have to bother with a mask for 99.999% of the time, if that, BUT, even from my enviable perch:
I can't get too pissed at someone for not risking his job, especially when he has kids to feed and needs to keep a roof over their heads.
These decisions are very easy to make when it's just you, or you have no kids. When I was single and young, I happily walked away from lots of jobs, with my head and middle fingers proudly raised high. When it was just me and the wife, I still had no reservations in telling a shithead boss to go fuck himself, literally daring the sniveling little cocksucker to fire me if he didn't like it, and I've even blackened one's eye on my way out of a job. Let's just say I was a bit of a hothead at work, and leave it at that.
...but then, my daughter was born. Followed 18 months later by a son. Suddenly, it stopped being all about me. I wasn't so free and easy about my personal opinions at work anymore. I learned to STFU and be diplomatic on any non-critical issue.
Now that it's just me and the wife in our empty and nearly-paid-off nest, and I have a year or two of 'fuck you money' stashed away, I can be freer and more open about my opinions again... but I'm not going to demand that a young single father do what I know full well that I sure as fuck wouldn't have done in his situation.
If by "short term discomfort" you mean the worst-case of being homeless and having your kids consigned to Foster Care because of that, then you have a very odd definition of comfort.
Like I said, I myself don't wear one to work, but even if I did I could refuse it easily enough - I have the monetary reserves, and my own kids are adults and out on their own, so it is quite literally not about me in the literal and metaphorical sense.
That said, and as stated, Younger men with kids don't have that choice, and I'm not going to begrudge them over that, because with young kids on the line, I'm not 100% certain that I could make that choice properly, no matter what my heart tells me to do.
Now there is a red line to be sure, but I suspect that the face-diapers isn't it.
I also suspect that if it were truly a matter of freedom vs. slavery at this point, there would be assassinations going on at a very regular pace right about now, because such dire historical breakpoints will require dire remedies.
It may come to that, but not at this time, and not for this reason.
where I live that means jail time, at least recently. If i am in jail i cannot fight. I also need my money to buy supplies. There is a difference between biding time, and being asleep. I think equating mask wearing under threat of fiscal destruction or jail time is unfair correlation to being willing to defend the republic in large numbers.
Now if a gaggle of patriots just walked into the nearby walmart all not wearing masks, or if we organized a national mask protest where we all didn't do it, that takes a lefty tactic of using numbers as cover, and uses it against them.
This, right here. Find a lefty place, say, Trader Joe's or Whole Foods, and gaggle-fuck it maskless. Be polite, but have a massive group all go in there to shop.
Not sure what you're referencing but before covid cost me my job, I didn't wear the mask, fuck that. I told my boss "I don't live in North fucking Korea" and he laughed and agreed and it was never an issue again....and we work in food service, lol.
I lost a job of five years over the mask and am currently on the brink of losing everything I have worked my whole life for.
Over a fucking mask. Clown world
Over his freedom
What's the point of having anything if you don't have freedom. Are you to the point of filling your belly with dirt to stop the hunger pangs? If not be thankful for not living in the Communist utopia Democrats are fighting to bring to America.
Then quit your job and become a hippy.
Nah, I'd rather have freedom. But thanks, lmfao!!!
Good choice.
I mean..hippies are commie-simps
very much so, but strangely they believe they are free. They also believe they are not conforming. Must be all that LSD. Don’t think it’s the weed cos I smoke like a trooper and have an intense hatred of anything related to Karl Marx. He was the ultimate soy boy.
Why would I give up my job right now when there is no one else out their fighting? There are plenty of people out of work who argue they are on our side, so they have time and ability to fight, where are they? If they start it, I will join it. But I am not going to be starting it.
First things first. Use all legal means to stop the steal. Only when those avenues are exhausted will there ever be a legitimate reason to turn towards violent measures.
Are we there yet? As far as I know, we will not be there until the congress certifies the electoral college.
We only need about 5% of us to enter the fray. Most of the military and most of the police will side with us at the end of the day.
Never make assumptions. Not saying otherwise, but never take comfort in something that cannot be confirmed by experience.
The revolutionary war was fought with 2% of the population at any given time. With total war period constituting a grand total of 6% of the population.
Most people are not invested in these things. The left is not going to get a massive assist from people. The most you will get out of a leftist is their reaction to not getting their welfare check.
So, if we can start with just 5%, we will win overwhelmingly in short order absent the Military taking sides.
It's not time, we will know when it's time.
That's what I have been saying. There is always something to hide behind, whether it be a job, house, or family. People act like next time it will be different, and then it plays out just the same.
Quitting when the forced vaccines happen is more logical IMO.
this. changing my job title to "revolutionary" when that shit starts.
I hope you have people to hold you to that. I heard the same thing when mask mandates came out where I live. But when time actually came, all but two backed down.
I have stopped. Not as big of a protest here in SC because most don't care like other places.
Most of the white-collar folks (like myself) haven't had to wear masks at work because we've all been working remotely from home.
Lol some faggot at my work wore a face diaper during the fucking Zoom call meeting. I wanted to reach through my screen and choke him.
Don't worry he's helping nature selection when the constant mask-wearing catches up to him with his early demise due to the constant lack of oxygen.
lawls... that's just plain sad.
Shoulda made fun of his ass, and mercilessly. :)
With work from home formalized, the way is paved for the tech cartels to open pool to the globe. Trim highly paid W2's. If you no longer have to employ in high cost of living centers, why not employ remote talent from across the globe in much cheaper areas?
When that kicks in is when white collar will be shoulder to shoulder with blue collar to make a change.
I agree to an extent.
However, from my PoV, I've seen what the talent pool looks like overseas, and it's a total crapshoot.
They tried offshoring full-on 10 years ago, and wound up on-shoring for anything more complicated than IT help-desk scripted stuff.
There is good talent to be had overseas (I promise, I know quite a few, and many of them report to me), but as they learned then, and many are learning the hard way now, for every one competent code-monkey or sysadmin living in Pune, Prague, or Shanghai? There are 10,000 fucking incompetents who have to be told every little thing, have to have their work cleaned-up at great expense in time and effort, and in general lied their asses off to get the job. The ratio in the US is much, much nicer - only 1-in-20 or so, and most of the incompetents here can be weeded out quickly enough.
You mean Pajeet charges 50 cents an hour for a reason?!
Yup... and that 50 cents an hour will end up costing you $150/hr to fix.
We don't need all 74 million. We just need 10 to 20 thousand of us ready to tear shit up.
There is no point needlessly throwing away your job especially in these times, especially if you a family to feed. Being on welfare is no joke. I wear at mask at work because it’s just another one of their dumb policies.. just because I wear the mask does not mean I am a sheep and it does not mean I believe covid is dangerous. If they tried to forcibly vaccinate me I would quit but quitting over having to wear a mask is just stupid.
I refused to return to my job because it required a mask. My favorite job ever. I started working painting again, something I really don't love to do but, it pays decent, and there's no mask.
This is deeply ironic because painting is the one job that would need a mask 😂
LOL actually I probably should have been wearing a job at one of the recent jobs. Super old house being refurbished, with tons of dusty old soot in the air from the construction crews. But I still didn't wear one, LOL, but in my defense none of us did.
Are you going to ask in the job interview if you have to wear a a mask at your new place of employment. Maybe tell the company that you will only work for them if you don’t have to wear a mask.That will go down really well in the interview. Good luck with that.
Look for another job? Seriously? That’s your advice? Next you will be telling people to code. It is more likely that you will end up on welfare for a long time before you get anything and what will that achieve. it will just make you poorer. I would advise people to pick their battles wisely and not be stupid and fight battles that will only end up hurting themselves. Do you think your employer would give a shit if you quit. He will just hire someone else. You will only end up hurting yourself and your family. That is really bad advice. What happens when you quit your job with a good salary then get another job that pays way less and they turn around and ask you to wear a mask at work.
You will just end up back at square one and he and all the stress you went through would be for nothing.
I know where you are coming from but I just think it is very bad advice.
Yes. I have just made a correction before I saw your reply. What happens when you quit your job that pays well and you get a shitty job and then they turn around and tell you that you have to wear a mask. Will you look for another job that is even worse again. Don’t advise people to do things that you would not do yourself.
Good Jobs don’t grow on trees.
people want the system to handle it. I get it though because revolution is a one way street you dont go down there unless you have zero possibility of this getting sorted out legally. keep your guns close, and keep an eye out
I talk to the customers and can obviously tell which ones think this whole thing is bs. I reassure them, they are not alone in the views and more people are getting fed up with the over reach of power by the government.
Sharing this idea and belief can't be taken away.
That is me doing my part in this, I wear a mask at work because its not that big of a deal to me. But once they demand vaccines, I'll ride that out for as long as I can without getting one. I'll fake documents if I have to, or quit, or they will fire me.
Employers are not our enemy. The government is.
That said, my boss doesn't care.
They are if they require their employees to wear a mask.
Hard disagree. Companies risk fines and shutdowns over this sort of thing, and it's not fair as someone who doesn't own a business to tell a business that they suck because they won't face the government on the issue.
I also think the mask battle isn't the one truly worth fighting at this time. There will be an opportunity to sort this out in the future, but for the time being election fraud, forced vaccination, and the high level components of Agenda 21/2030 are the priorities.
Hard disagree.
So that justifies them acting as the foot soldiers of the deep state. That's like saying "you can't kill the enemy soldiers that invaded your country because they were drafted.
Is getting threatened/coerced into wearing a mask fair? Having a landslide election blatantly stolen? How about being denied essential services because you can't prove you were "vaccinated"? Pigs being sent to kidnap you for not being vaccinated? I get reminded all the time that life's not fair whenever I'm the one getting the short stick, so excuse me if I don't care about fairness anymore.
If they act as the soldiers of the deep state, then they deserve a lot more than just being told that. I guess that depends on what your definition of "talking" includes though.
If they have aligned themselves with my enemy, then they have no right to complain when I face them as enemies.
I think it is. And it has been ever since it started, because it is the first step of something far worse. But not the hill to die on, amirite?
Every single day they are worn they become harder and harder to get rid of as they become more normalized. People are fortunately starting to tire of wearing masks (at least in my area), so it is imperative that we pushback against them now.
Very few of us are so involved in fighting election fraud that we can't also pushback against masks.
And what is the first stage of getting people to accept (possibly even demand) forced "vaccinations"? It's by getting them to first accept masks. As for the high level components of Agenda 2030, nothing is a higher priority to them than vaccinating (read chipping) every single person on the planet. By stopping masks you are also stopping everything that comes after them, and by accepting them you are also opening the door to everything that comes after.
Slam the door shut on masks before forced vaccinations come through it and quit telling me it's not the hill to fight and/or die on.
Anyone who acts as a tyrant or a lackey of a tyrant, is the enemy. It doesn't matter what your title is.
Another thought, and devil's advocate time from an old fuck:
It was once said that "...a coward is a hero with a wife, kids, and a mortgage."
I have the luxury of working a job where I WFH all the time, and live rural so I don't have to bother with a mask for 99.999% of the time, if that, BUT, even from my enviable perch:
I can't get too pissed at someone for not risking his job, especially when he has kids to feed and needs to keep a roof over their heads.
These decisions are very easy to make when it's just you, or you have no kids. When I was single and young, I happily walked away from lots of jobs, with my head and middle fingers proudly raised high. When it was just me and the wife, I still had no reservations in telling a shithead boss to go fuck himself, literally daring the sniveling little cocksucker to fire me if he didn't like it, and I've even blackened one's eye on my way out of a job. Let's just say I was a bit of a hothead at work, and leave it at that.
...but then, my daughter was born. Followed 18 months later by a son. Suddenly, it stopped being all about me. I wasn't so free and easy about my personal opinions at work anymore. I learned to STFU and be diplomatic on any non-critical issue.
Now that it's just me and the wife in our empty and nearly-paid-off nest, and I have a year or two of 'fuck you money' stashed away, I can be freer and more open about my opinions again... but I'm not going to demand that a young single father do what I know full well that I sure as fuck wouldn't have done in his situation.
If by "short term discomfort" you mean the worst-case of being homeless and having your kids consigned to Foster Care because of that, then you have a very odd definition of comfort.
Like I said, I myself don't wear one to work, but even if I did I could refuse it easily enough - I have the monetary reserves, and my own kids are adults and out on their own, so it is quite literally not about me in the literal and metaphorical sense.
That said, and as stated, Younger men with kids don't have that choice, and I'm not going to begrudge them over that, because with young kids on the line, I'm not 100% certain that I could make that choice properly, no matter what my heart tells me to do.
Now there is a red line to be sure, but I suspect that the face-diapers isn't it.
I also suspect that if it were truly a matter of freedom vs. slavery at this point, there would be assassinations going on at a very regular pace right about now, because such dire historical breakpoints will require dire remedies.
It may come to that, but not at this time, and not for this reason.
where I live that means jail time, at least recently. If i am in jail i cannot fight. I also need my money to buy supplies. There is a difference between biding time, and being asleep. I think equating mask wearing under threat of fiscal destruction or jail time is unfair correlation to being willing to defend the republic in large numbers.
Now if a gaggle of patriots just walked into the nearby walmart all not wearing masks, or if we organized a national mask protest where we all didn't do it, that takes a lefty tactic of using numbers as cover, and uses it against them.
This, right here. Find a lefty place, say, Trader Joe's or Whole Foods, and gaggle-fuck it maskless. Be polite, but have a massive group all go in there to shop.
We need to learn from the enemy. We need to get better at protesting and better at organizing.
Agreed, bigly.
Not sure what you're referencing but before covid cost me my job, I didn't wear the mask, fuck that. I told my boss "I don't live in North fucking Korea" and he laughed and agreed and it was never an issue again....and we work in food service, lol.
I'm a boss and I don't wear a mask or require anyone else to wear one. I've lost some contracts because of it. Don't care. LIVE FREE OR DIE!